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Title: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Claireliontamer on January 28, 2016, 06:40:52 PM
I can't find the original members art thread, so...... a new one :)

Whilst I've been recovering from this meningitis I've started a new project.  I picked up an old dollhouse very cheaply from eBay.  Here it is modelled by scampus:

(https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12647469_1963199493904689_7748221394778222264_n.jpg?oh=f11ab97713cabc2f536d3556bc610c5b&oe=573EDF79)

The first job was to work on the chimney, we made little bricks from egg boxes and painted them:

(https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12651230_1963199527238019_3593755351824027713_n.jpg?oh=c61a5bf8b43f6cdc25670ebed3cc5141&oe=5739EBA9)

I then attempted to make clay chimney pots and roof tiles....they need much more work.

So instead I started on making a rug, copying a William Morris design but scaled down to 1/12th:

(https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12631506_1963200030571302_2911621599368589014_n.jpg?oh=92d856093d14186b62315b0cb626110f&oe=573E4B9B)

Some more progress:

(https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12647073_1963200337237938_8872274866256573697_n.jpg?oh=ec462649464e3c13019d379617c1d594&oe=5728D9A5)

The house is a replica of a 'Stockbroker Tudor', basically houses rich city bankers built in the suburbs at the turn of the century so my idea is to try and replicate that era inside too.  There's a lot of work to do and I'm (well Scamp and I....but she wants to paint it all pink so she's currently suspended) having to learn everything as I go along.

Also, I'm back at work now so progress will slow down a lot!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on January 29, 2016, 02:54:18 AM
This looks like a fun project Claire, and that's a quaint little dollhouse you have there, almost more of a Doll Cottage. (Scamp is really cute by the way).

So you're redoing the outside? It looks like you removed the original faux roof covering from the original, and you say you are going to cover it with actual clay tiles? That's awesome...and i like the chimney, looks like real brick and mortar.

I hope you'll keep us abreast of your progress with additional photos, and maybe rehire Scamp to assist you? Pink with white trim might be nice? ;D

Nice looking needlepoint by the way.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: jumbojak on January 29, 2016, 04:37:57 AM
I might work on a pineapple twist this weekend and see how it turns out. Then I'll make a very tiny railing for your dollhouse Claire....
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Claireliontamer on January 29, 2016, 10:42:59 AM
Thanks Bruno,

It is fun if frustrating at times.  Yes I am redoing the outside, it did have a fake slate roof but it was really badly fitted and looked plastic so I decided to rip it off.  I think the house will look better (and more authentic) with a red tile roof, this may take a while but I think it'll be worth it in the end.

I'm really not a very artistic/creative person but I am quite methodical, have a steady hand and can copy things well.  I also get bored very easily so the appeal here is there are lots of very different things and techniques to do.

Also....there's a big dollhouse and miniature club near me so I may make some friends ;)

And JJ - I have that in writing now........
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: jumbojak on February 17, 2016, 12:35:38 AM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iforgeiron.com%2Fuploads%2Fmonthly_2016_02%2Flarge.IMG_20160216_182514_731.jpg.340e446933ee9c493e713d198e8b7433.jpg&hash=34b324141d3085596299905ed9a7261da0fee958)

Certainly not art, but this hot cut should serve well once I get the proper profile on the bit. I really need to weld up a flatter so I can smooth out the hammer marks. I ran out of light today so hopefully I can get it tidied up sometime this week. Lots of heating and beating!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on February 17, 2016, 08:11:52 AM
Just put an edge on it. If you tidy it up too much it'll just look machine made. Which rather defeats to object don't you think?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: jumbojak on February 17, 2016, 01:43:17 PM
The bit needs to be thinned quite a bit. It's a tool, so I'm not all that concerned with appearance. I need it to cut effectively!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on February 17, 2016, 03:31:41 PM
JayJay I thought you were holding an icicle that you had snapped off the end of your beard...now I understand :scratch:

So don't those have less of angle at the end, like 30 degrees rather than 60 degrees for a regular chisel? Can't tell by the pic.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: joeactor on February 17, 2016, 03:42:59 PM
Very cool house, Claire! Should look most excellent when you're through with it.

JJ - is that a hand-made chisel? Do you have a forge?

I'm not too crafty myself, but I did make a rainbow chicken curtain once:
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.joesdump.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F09%2FRainbow-Chicken-Curtain-Closeup-1.jpg&hash=be5ec4790b95039458c4687738fff61a1163295b)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Claireliontamer on February 17, 2016, 05:34:23 PM
Half term progress......

Tiled roof, complete with moss.....

(https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/12745892_1973897069501598_4777959397937652527_n.jpg?oh=3e10df2f1e7a849ab7b3d0b53237b335&oe=572D36BE)

Gable end with the new lego occupants...

(https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12705579_1973897772834861_9221257145033995242_n.jpg?oh=9fc56c2a72622545e41a01368da3c792&oe=5725070A)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: jumbojak on February 17, 2016, 07:31:49 PM
Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on February 17, 2016, 03:31:41 PM
JayJay I thought you were holding an icicle that you had snapped off the end of your beard...now I understand :scratch:

So don't those have less of angle at the end, like 30 degrees rather than 60 degrees for a regular chisel? Can't tell by the pic.

While I'm not sure what the angle is "supposed" to be I'm shooting for an included angle of 60°, just like a cold chisel. This part is not heat treated (given it's use, there wouldnt be much point to doing so) and I want to avoid rolling the edge.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: jumbojak on February 17, 2016, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: joeactor on February 17, 2016, 03:42:59 PM
JJ - is that a hand-made chisel? Do you have a forge?

Indeed it is and yes I do. Two forges actually, working on lucky number three to keep at the house.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: joeactor on February 17, 2016, 08:18:03 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on February 17, 2016, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: joeactor on February 17, 2016, 03:42:59 PM
JJ - is that a hand-made chisel? Do you have a forge?

Indeed it is and yes I do. Two forges actually, working on lucky number three to keep at the house.

Amazing - first person I've met with one... er... 3 ;-)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: jumbojak on February 17, 2016, 10:27:49 PM
Quote from: joeactor on February 17, 2016, 08:18:03 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on February 17, 2016, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: joeactor on February 17, 2016, 03:42:59 PM
JJ - is that a hand-made chisel? Do you have a forge?

Indeed it is and yes I do. Two forges actually, working on lucky number three to keep at the house.

Amazing - first person I've met with one... er... 3 ;-)

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpostimg.org%2Fimage%2Frkvkhnyat%2F&hash=84ade83c8bc0c28e0a4b2c034595a4f82bf33632)

Joe, meet Magnus. Magnus, this is Joe. Joe's a funny guy but you're still the king of hot air.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on February 24, 2016, 03:50:15 PM
Hey Claire I love the tiled roof, it looks really great along with some very nice detail, great job... and the gable end turned out nice as well.

How's The JayJay doing with the Pineapple Twist Railing?

Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Claireliontamer on February 24, 2016, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on February 24, 2016, 03:50:15 PM

How's The JayJay doing with the Pineapple Twist Railing?



No sign of my railing yet, I think I need to whip him harder ;)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: jumbojak on February 24, 2016, 10:21:46 PM
Need some V-bit tongs to hold the damn things first... Sunday I hope...
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on February 26, 2016, 09:31:26 PM
I wanted to do something special for Asmo since he is so good at taking care of us, and the forum here at HAF.

Soooo I drew a picture of his favorite former member of the One Direction, "Zayn Malik".

I hope he likes it!

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbCAkj30.jpg&hash=6ca39c5c41f088f36205f8bf97860fdd82acaeac)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Claireliontamer on February 26, 2016, 09:47:28 PM
He reminds me of the villain in 'Princess and the Frog'

(https://mysticmedusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Dr-Facilier-the-evil-Hoodoo-and-Voodoo-shadowman-the-princess-and-the-frog-9549434-500-460.jpg)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: jumbojak on March 07, 2016, 05:34:44 AM
This isn't me, just so nobody gets confused. Aric Armbruster is a sculptor in Pennsylvania who is just starting to market some of his work. I really like Crash (the skull) and his guitar.

https://m.facebook.com/AADaswulf/ (https://m.facebook.com/AADaswulf/)

I was going to pick a few to share but thought it might be better to link to his page so anyone interested could browse.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: joeactor on March 07, 2016, 02:55:00 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on March 07, 2016, 05:34:44 AM
This isn't me, just so nobody gets confused. Aric Armbruster is a sculptor in Pennsylvania who is just starting to market some of his work. I really like Crash (the skull) and his guitar.

https://m.facebook.com/AADaswulf/ (https://m.facebook.com/AADaswulf/)

I was going to pick a few to share but thought it might be better to link to his page so anyone interested could browse.

Pretty cool...
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on April 02, 2016, 03:44:00 AM
These are three eggs I decorated for Easter, wouldn't really considered it art, but I didn't know where else to post this.

(Maybe we need a, "Hey, Look at this Silly Crap I Made" thread)

The one on the left is supposed to be my son, the one on the right is me, and the one in the middle is Socorro (Wife)

My son liked his egg, especially that is was bigger than the other two (He lifts weights) and he said it made him look happy. I was satisfied with mine, but Socorro said that on her's I made the lips too big, and her eyebrows too mean looking, so it looks like she's mad. (Fucking critics)
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRxK3rcd.jpg&hash=4a03e0f8b11a46558f78f07b8285098e268eaa85)

I drew the picture below on our kitchen white board of me riding (Not falling) on my bike, while driving past Socorro. See how I'm sort of checking her out with my eyes?
Anyway she said I made her lips too large here as well (Plus, she said I got her hair completely wrong, and I'm thinking, well my head isn't that big compared to the rest of my body, give it a rest).

I mean c'mon, it's just a quick sketch on a white board with cheap markers, not exactly an easy medium.

Anyway I like, so no one is allowed to erase it.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F07e4I1Y.jpg&hash=c52125a84ad8a858b93ccceea2d749c859b78c04)

Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: joeactor on April 02, 2016, 02:22:25 PM
Cute whiteboard sketch, Bruno... better than anything I could do!

I also like that "toothpicks" is the last shopping item. Appropriate...
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 02, 2016, 02:26:27 PM
Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on February 26, 2016, 09:31:26 PM
I wanted to do something special for Asmo since he is so good at taking care of us, and the forum here at HAF.

Soooo I drew a picture of his favorite former member of the One Direction, "Zayn Malik".

I hope he likes it!

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbCAkj30.jpg&hash=6ca39c5c41f088f36205f8bf97860fdd82acaeac)

I like how you exaggerated his eyes and mouth.  :tellmemore: Very...expressive. :P
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on April 02, 2016, 03:02:45 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 02, 2016, 02:26:27 PM
Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on February 26, 2016, 09:31:26 PM
I wanted to do something special for Asmo since he is so good at taking care of us, and the forum here at HAF.

Soooo I drew a picture of his favorite former member of the One Direction, "Zayn Malik".

I hope he likes it!

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbCAkj30.jpg&hash=6ca39c5c41f088f36205f8bf97860fdd82acaeac)

I like how you exaggerated his eyes and mouth.  :tellmemore: Very...expressive. :P

I didn't actually draw the Zayn Malik" picture, found it on the internet, and knowing how much of a fan Asmo is (Isn't) of his I thought I'd post it as a joke...
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Magdalena on April 02, 2016, 07:16:56 PM
Very nice family, Bruno de la Pole, very nice.  :smilenod:

Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on April 02, 2016, 03:44:00 AM

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRxK3rcd.jpg&hash=4a03e0f8b11a46558f78f07b8285098e268eaa85)

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.racebending.com%2Fv4%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F05%2FConeheads.jpg&hash=4838cd5a540af8a6b096a689bda153e0ee04662e)

Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on April 02, 2016, 03:44:00 AM

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F07e4I1Y.jpg&hash=c52125a84ad8a858b93ccceea2d749c859b78c04)
I do the letter 'g' the same way you do. They look like the number 9.  ;D I also connect the th the same way, as you and only a few other people know, I have a th in my 'real' name, so the th are forever stuck together just like that when I write my name.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on April 02, 2016, 07:45:23 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 02, 2016, 07:16:56 PM
Very nice family, Bruno de la Pole, very nice.  :smilenod:

Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on April 02, 2016, 03:44:00 AM

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRxK3rcd.jpg&hash=4a03e0f8b11a46558f78f07b8285098e268eaa85)

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.racebending.com%2Fv4%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F05%2FConeheads.jpg&hash=4838cd5a540af8a6b096a689bda153e0ee04662e)

Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on April 02, 2016, 03:44:00 AM

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F07e4I1Y.jpg&hash=c52125a84ad8a858b93ccceea2d749c859b78c04)
I do the letter 'g' the same way you do. They look like the number 9.  ;D I also connect the th the same way, as you and only a few other people know, I have a th in my 'real' name, so the th are forever stuck together just like that when I write my name.

See we have even more in common Magdalena; plus a recent scientific study has shown that people who connect the th like we do are not only extremely smart, funny and sensitive, butt also really, really sexy. (And modest)

BTW, do you use your lips to point like most Hispanic women I know?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Buddy on April 02, 2016, 08:10:51 PM
Are we doing whiteboard drawings? Because I'd like to show off my artistic rendition of our fat pug.

(https://i.imgur.com/JdjkkXE.jpg)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Magdalena on April 02, 2016, 08:33:22 PM
Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on April 02, 2016, 07:45:23 PM
...
BTW, do you use your lips to point like most Hispanic women I know?
Oh, my Asmo! Yes!
My man thinks it's hilarious! He makes fun of me all the time.  :lol:
I'm very embarrassed about it, but I can't help it.  :shrug:---Weird.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on April 02, 2016, 08:56:17 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on April 02, 2016, 08:10:51 PM
Are we doing whiteboard drawings? Because I'd like to show off my artistic rendition of our fat pug.

(https://i.imgur.com/JdjkkXE.jpg)

Yes, I think everyone should here should submit a whiteboard drawing, we could have a contest.

By the way "Fat Pug" is nice, but I'm confused by the math on your whiteboard.

Crackers x lunches minus sandwiches = 3/28ths?


Quote from: Magdalena on April 02, 2016, 08:33:22 PM
Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on April 02, 2016, 07:45:23 PM
...
BTW, do you use your lips to point like most Hispanic women I know?
Oh, my Asmo! Yes!
My man thinks it's hilarious! He makes fun of me all the time.  :lol:
I'm very embarrassed about it, but I can't help it.  :shrug:---Weird.

I knew it, I think it must be genetic...I make fun of it too, but also, and don't tell anyone, I find myself doing it myself sometimes. Then they make fun of me, because my lips are practically non-existent...you know, small, thin, gringo lips.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MariaEvri on April 04, 2016, 04:49:34 PM
Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on April 02, 2016, 08:56:17 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on April 02, 2016, 08:10:51 PM
Are we doing whiteboard drawings? Because I'd like to show off my artistic rendition of our fat pug.

(https://i.imgur.com/JdjkkXE.jpg)

Yes, I think everyone should here should submit a whiteboard drawing, we could have a contest.

By the way "Fat Pug" is nice, but I'm confused by the math on your whiteboard.

Crackers x lunches minus sandwiches = 3/28ths?


Quote from: Magdalena on April 02, 2016, 08:33:22 PM
Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on April 02, 2016, 07:45:23 PM
...
BTW, do you use your lips to point like most Hispanic women I know?
Oh, my Asmo! Yes!
My man thinks it's hilarious! He makes fun of me all the time.  :lol:
I'm very embarrassed about it, but I can't help it.  :shrug:---Weird.

I knew it, I think it must be genetic...I make fun of it too, but also, and don't tell anyone, I find myself doing it myself sometimes. Then they make fun of me, because my lips are practically non-existent...you know, small, thin, gringo lips.

squishable fat pup. I want to squish it

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpre05.deviantart.net%2Fd68f%2Fth%2Fpre%2Fi%2F2016%2F066%2Fd%2Fb%2Fdaddy_tea_time_by_poseidonsimons-d9uc4yx.jpg&hash=84e2d43a973145bb7d4bf0a04a335c3190319541)
here's some furry art that many hate. A daddy and his girl
and a sketchy iguana dude
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpre12.deviantart.net%2Fbca0%2Fth%2Fpre%2Fi%2F2016%2F090%2F6%2F9%2Figuana_man_by_poseidonsimons-d9x5f5q.jpg&hash=6b4782337cb1c421ebb02a3d413cb1e7d1073fd6)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MariaEvri on April 04, 2016, 04:50:55 PM
Quote from: Claireliontamer on February 17, 2016, 05:34:23 PM
Half term progress......

Tiled roof, complete with moss.....

(https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/12745892_1973897069501598_4777959397937652527_n.jpg?oh=3e10df2f1e7a849ab7b3d0b53237b335&oe=572D36BE)

Gable end with the new lego occupants...

(https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12705579_1973897772834861_9221257145033995242_n.jpg?oh=9fc56c2a72622545e41a01368da3c792&oe=5725070A)

looks cool so far. Wanna see the finished house :D
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Crow on April 05, 2016, 01:11:12 AM
Nice roof CLT.

Reminds me of the history project I did back in year eight, teacher stole it as well. I hope you didn't steal that of a student.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: jumbojak on April 05, 2016, 02:54:26 AM
(https://scontent.fden3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/q81/p206x206/12919729_978958688866941_997584591329365150_n.jpg?oh=930ff3ea51f4b1910bb99f39ac482e85&oe=57870C3B)

Bale hook prototypes, almost complete. I have about six foot of spring stretched out now and will be working on better looking handles for the next set. Also, there will be bending hooks. Getting the two to match that closely was... difficult, to say the least.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on April 05, 2016, 08:20:08 AM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 05, 2016, 02:54:26 AM
(https://scontent.fden3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/q81/p206x206/12919729_978958688866941_997584591329365150_n.jpg?oh=930ff3ea51f4b1910bb99f39ac482e85&oe=57870C3B)

Bale hook prototypes, almost complete. I have about six foot of spring stretched out now and will be working on better looking handles for the next set. Also, there will be bending hooks. Getting the two to match that closely was... difficult, to say the least.
You were born in the wrong century.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Davin on November 30, 2016, 05:11:45 PM
So this month I decided to try to make a small but complete game in one month. This includes at least a menu, credits, the playable game with win and/or lose conditions... and a splash screen because that should be simple enough. I created everything but the short game concept in this month. That includes the design document, the 3D models, graphics, the sound effects, music, programming, etc...

I kept track of what I was doing per day on a blog starting with this post: http://blog.devpirates.com/indie-dev-month-idm-day-1/

This is essentially the finished game:


Even though the game is pretty basic, it was a lot of work. But it was fun and offered some interesting challenges and learning experiences. Today I'm going to try making an installation executable so that people can easily install and run the game. Without that though, I think I have succeeded in the challenge (which isn't really a thing, my brother came up with the idea and I thought it sounded fun).
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 30, 2016, 06:03:38 PM
That looks really cool, Davin. The visuals remind me a bit of Audiosurf, a game I spent countless hours playing. :grin:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: joeactor on November 30, 2016, 06:31:00 PM
Quote from: Davin on November 30, 2016, 05:11:45 PM
So this month I decided to try to make a small but complete game in one month. This includes at least a menu, credits, the playable game with win and/or lose conditions... and a splash screen because that should be simple enough. I created everything but the short game concept in this month. That includes the design document, the 3D models, graphics, the sound effects, music, programming, etc...

I kept track of what I was doing per day on a blog starting with this post: http://blog.devpirates.com/indie-dev-month-idm-day-1/

Even though the game is pretty basic, it was a lot of work. But it was fun and offered some interesting challenges and learning experiences. Today I'm going to try making an installation executable so that people can easily install and run the game. Without that though, I think I have succeeded in the challenge (which isn't really a thing, my brother came up with the idea and I thought it sounded fun).

Sweet! Came out very nice. I also like having an attainable goal in a given time frame... Keeps me motivated to finish.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tom62 on November 30, 2016, 06:32:51 PM
Very nice, Davin!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Davin on November 30, 2016, 07:50:16 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on November 30, 2016, 06:03:38 PM
That looks really cool, Davin. The visuals remind me a bit of Audiosurf, a game I spent countless hours playing. :grin:
Thanks! Audiosurf looks like a much better version of my game. :D

Quote from: joeactor on November 30, 2016, 06:31:00 PM
Sweet! Came out very nice. I also like having an attainable goal in a given time frame... Keeps me motivated to finish.
Thank you! Yeah, one of the hardest parts of software development is deciding on and keeping to the scope of the project. With video game development, the problem is exponentially worse than regular software development. My brother and I were going to develop a game that was a bit more complex, but his computer fried so I had to come up with a simpler game that one person (me in particular), could complete in a month.

Quote from: Tom62 on November 30, 2016, 06:32:51 PM
Very nice, Davin!
Thanks!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Magdalena on November 30, 2016, 08:06:59 PM
Davin, you did that in one month!?
I'm going to borrow Dagonia's words:
I'm just... what did...how would.....I don't ...... :o
Wow! Impressive! :clapping:

...And you're learning Spanish on the side?  :golfclap:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: joeactor on November 30, 2016, 08:22:25 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on November 30, 2016, 08:06:59 PM
Davin, you did that in one month!?
I'm going to borrow Dagonia's words:
I'm just... what did...how would.....I don't ...... :o
Wow! Impressive! :clapping:

...And you're learning Spanish on the side?  :golfclap:

Wait... Davin: You're learning Spanish? Me too! Been using DuoLingo for about 2 weeks now.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Davin on November 30, 2016, 08:23:56 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on November 30, 2016, 08:06:59 PM
Davin, you did that in one month!?
I'm going to borrow Dagonia's words:
I'm just... what did...how would.....I don't ...... :o
Wow! Impressive! :clapping:

...And you're learning Spanish on the side?  :golfclap:
Thank you! :D

My learning of Spanish is much slower and even less impressive if you can imagine it. :lol:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Davin on November 30, 2016, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: joeactor on November 30, 2016, 08:22:25 PM

Wait... Davin: You're learning Spanish? Me too! Been using DuoLingo for about 2 weeks now.
Yeah, that's what I've been using. I completed all the German and Spanish courses, and gotten German up in 100% complete all gold, and Spanish about 35% all gold and working up. Now I need to try to apply it to start learning better.

Magdalena has given me a few sentences to try to translate, my GF quizes me a bit, and there's a Deadpool comic written in Spanish that I'm trying to translate on my own.
(https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/6/90/565e0ee6d1329/background.jpg)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: joeactor on November 30, 2016, 08:47:53 PM
Quote from: Davin on November 30, 2016, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: joeactor on November 30, 2016, 08:22:25 PM

Wait... Davin: You're learning Spanish? Me too! Been using DuoLingo for about 2 weeks now.
Yeah, that's what I've been using. I completed all the German and Spanish courses, and gotten German up in 100% complete all gold, and Spanish about 35% all gold and working up. Now I need to try to apply it to start learning better.

Magdalena has given me a few sentences to try to translate, my GF quizes me a bit, and there's a Deadpool comic written in Spanish that I'm trying to translate on my own.

Cool - good to know it works! I'm not there yet, but Spanish TV and comics do seem like a good way to test the skills.

Adapt, Adopt, and Improve!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dave on November 30, 2016, 09:18:58 PM
I seem to be getting lots of picture "place holders" with no picture in them in this thread.

Anyone any idea why?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Arturo on November 30, 2016, 11:57:29 PM
Quote from: Gloucester on November 30, 2016, 09:18:58 PM
I seem to be getting lots of picture "place holders" with no picture in them in this thread.

Anyone any idea why?

Pictures are taken from other sites, so those sites may have moved or taken down the picture.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 01, 2016, 01:12:32 AM
Quote from: Apathy on November 30, 2016, 11:57:29 PM
Quote from: Gloucester on November 30, 2016, 09:18:58 PM
I seem to be getting lots of picture "place holders" with no picture in them in this thread.

Anyone any idea why?

Pictures are taken from other sites, so those sites may have moved or taken down the picture.

:this: Those posts were made a very long time ago.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dave on December 01, 2016, 05:38:39 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 01, 2016, 01:12:32 AM
Quote from: Apathy on November 30, 2016, 11:57:29 PM
Quote from: Gloucester on November 30, 2016, 09:18:58 PM
I seem to be getting lots of picture "place holders" with no picture in them in this thread.

Anyone any idea why?

Pictures are taken from other sites, so those sites may have moved or taken down the picture.

:this: Those posts were made a very long time ago.

Ah, yes, may no longer be available if not embedded.

Shoulda thoughta that  :picard facepalm:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on February 12, 2020, 07:22:04 PM
So I have a few hobbies to keep me busy, such as playing guitar, drawing, practicing yoga, and I also am an avid bicyclist. Well recently I've been visiting a sick friend, and they introduced me to crocheting, and strangely enough it struck a chord with me and I've starting creating some rather cool stuff that I'm actually selling!

Here are some pictures.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


By the way I know there are a couple folks here like JJ, and Bad Penny who like to use really small pans, so no worries guys. I can also make these extremely tiny, and small to fit any size pan!

So if anyone is interested in purchasing any of these please let me know! 8)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 12, 2020, 08:59:03 PM
:lol:

Here is a large-ish (16" X 16" X 24") chest I made to store my large wood carving tools. Made of red oak. The large drawer is for mallets. The small one on top is quarter sawn white oak and used to hold my small carving tools, but was getting busted up in transport going back and forth to class. It now is home to my precision measuring instruments and French curves, stuff like that.

(https://i.imgur.com/SGV6QjY.jpg)

Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on February 12, 2020, 10:37:11 PM
Love that wood working!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Magdalena on February 12, 2020, 11:19:10 PM
Very nice, Dark Lightning.  :clapping:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Magdalena on February 12, 2020, 11:23:36 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 12, 2020, 07:22:04 PM
...

So if anyone is interested in purchasing any of these please let me know! 8)

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/9VrsRNeA0SHcEeos1h/source.gif)
Dios mio.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 13, 2020, 02:41:55 AM
Thanks, @Tank and @Magdalena ! :) I haven't figured out multiquotes here yet. I also didn't mean it to come out so large, picture-wise.  :-[
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on February 13, 2020, 04:04:46 AM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 12, 2020, 07:22:04 PM
So I have a few hobbies to keep me busy, such as playing guitar, drawing, practicing yoga, and I also am an avid bicyclist. Well recently I've been visiting a sick friend, and they introduced me to crocheting, and strangely enough it struck a chord with me and I've starting creating some rather cool stuff that I'm actually selling!

Here are some pictures.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


By the way I know there are a couple folks here like JJ, and Bad Penny who like to use really small pans, so no worries guys. I can also make these extremely tiny, and small to fit any size pan!

So if anyone is interested in purchasing any of these please let me know! 8)

Very interesting design. Where did you get the inspiration?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Bad Penny II on February 13, 2020, 12:58:52 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 12, 2020, 07:22:04 PM
By the way I know there are a couple folks here like JJ, and Bad Penny who like to use really small pans, so no worries guys. I can also make these extremely tiny, and small to fit any size pan!

Don't you know?

Quote from: Bad Penny II on February 11, 2020, 07:27:59 AM
Quote from: No one on February 10, 2020, 06:54:39 PM
Martin Lawrence is about as funny as losing both balls to testicular cancer, then ...... coming home to find your family has been slaughtered.

I was expecting something else, maybe coming home to find Nigella cooking a romantic meal.
Coming home to find your family slaughtered would be pretty bad too I suppose.

So through some weird happenstance No one's post became reality, I lost my balls to cancer, came home found my family slaughtered and subsequently Nigella moved in and she has taken over all my pots and pans. 
I will pass on your kind offering to Nigella and I'm considering taking up crochet, I've some minutes that need reallocating.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Recusant on February 13, 2020, 05:15:59 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on February 13, 2020, 02:41:55 AM
Thanks, @Tank and @Magdalena ! :) I haven't figured out multiquotes here yet. I also didn't mean it to come out so large, picture-wise.  :-[

I'm admiring those fine pieces myself.  :)

Don't worry about multi-quote. It isn't available here unless you do it manually.

As for sizing pictures, you can do it here by modifying the image tags. I usually just specify a width and let the height follow in proportion, like so:

[img width=700]image link[/img]

The width (and height) parameters are in pixels, I believe. You can experiment in previews and edit the width setting accordingly.

I'll use your photo as an example, setting the width to 680.

(https://i.imgur.com/SGV6QjY.jpg)

If you check the code I used by looking at my post using the quote function, you'll see that the site software has populated the height parameter automatically. I didn't choose the height, only the width.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on February 13, 2020, 05:51:41 PM
Quote from: Recusant on February 13, 2020, 05:15:59 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on February 13, 2020, 02:41:55 AM
Thanks, @Tank and @Magdalena ! :) I haven't figured out multiquotes here yet. I also didn't mean it to come out so large, picture-wise.  :-[

I'm admiring those fine pieces myself.  :)

Don't worry about multi-quote. It isn't available here unless you do it manually.

As for sizing pictures, you can do it here by modifying the image tags. I usually just specify a width and let the height follow in proportion, like so:

[img width=700]image link[/img]

The width (and height) parameters are in pixels, I believe. You can experiment in previews and edit the width setting accordingly.

I'll use your photo as an example, setting the width to 680.

(https://i.imgur.com/SGV6QjY.jpg)

If you check the code I used by looking at my post using the quote function, you'll see that the site software has populated the height parameter automatically. I didn't choose the height, only the width.

I did not know that. Thanks for the very useful information.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 13, 2020, 08:24:00 PM
Thanks, Recusant! I'll keep that info for future reference!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Recusant on February 13, 2020, 09:23:24 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on February 13, 2020, 08:24:00 PM
Thanks, Recusant! I'll keep that info for future reference!

Cheers, hermes2015 and Dark Lightning.  :computerwave:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: billy rubin on February 13, 2020, 11:38:52 PM
fifty years ago a fishing friend of my father's gave me a wad of tanned leather.  so during a long ago class in comparative invertebrate anatomy i sewed it up into a dissecting kit.

its not particularly nice looking anymore, because ive been using it for 45 years, and all my arterial haemostats got stolen for roach clips, but i just noticed it on the desk in front of me. now my kids are borrowing it to skin out the animals they shoot.

(https://i.imgur.com/cxI8h2Ql.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/AYLVds9l.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/DXv18RDl.jpg)

i was too poor to pay fifty cents for factory-mde probes, so i cut twigs from the willow trees and embedded dissecting pins in the ends.

(https://i.imgur.com/hMpmuo4l.jpg)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: No one on February 13, 2020, 11:39:36 PM
Are terrible decisions really a form of art?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on February 14, 2020, 06:34:47 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on February 13, 2020, 04:04:46 AM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 12, 2020, 07:22:04 PM
So I have a few hobbies to keep me busy, such as playing guitar, drawing, practicing yoga, and I also am an avid bicyclist. Well recently I've been visiting a sick friend, and they introduced me to crocheting, and strangely enough it struck a chord with me and I've starting creating some rather cool stuff that I'm actually selling!

Here are some pictures.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


By the way I know there are a couple folks here like JJ, and Bad Penny who like to use really small pans, so no worries guys. I can also make these extremely tiny, and small to fit any size pan!

So if anyone is interested in purchasing any of these please let me know! 8)

Very interesting design. Where did you get the inspiration?

Well it wasn't from myself to be honest, otherwise I would have to find pots and pans with very, very long handles with a gentle curve to the left. (If the pan was in front of you that is 8))
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on February 14, 2020, 06:36:37 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on February 13, 2020, 12:58:52 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 12, 2020, 07:22:04 PM
By the way I know there are a couple folks here like JJ, and Bad Penny who like to use really small pans, so no worries guys. I can also make these extremely tiny, and small to fit any size pan!

Don't you know?

Quote from: Bad Penny II on February 11, 2020, 07:27:59 AM
Quote from: No one on February 10, 2020, 06:54:39 PM
Martin Lawrence is about as funny as losing both balls to testicular cancer, then ...... coming home to find your family has been slaughtered.

I was expecting something else, maybe coming home to find Nigella cooking a romantic meal.
Coming home to find your family slaughtered would be pretty bad too I suppose.

So through some weird happenstance No one's post became reality, I lost my balls to cancer, came home found my family slaughtered and subsequently Nigella moved in and she has taken over all my pots and pans. 
I will pass on your kind offering to Nigella and I'm considering taking up crochet, I've some minutes that need reallocating.

I'm very sorry to hear that, you have my condolences :'(

Anyway for you there's no charge, just ask Nigella what colors she prefers and get back to me 8)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on February 14, 2020, 06:38:05 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on February 12, 2020, 11:23:36 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 12, 2020, 07:22:04 PM
...

So if anyone is interested in purchasing any of these please let me know! 8)

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/9VrsRNeA0SHcEeos1h/source.gif)
Dios mio.

What's wrong Mags, haven't you ever seen something like this before
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Magdalena on February 14, 2020, 07:13:00 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 14, 2020, 06:38:05 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on February 12, 2020, 11:23:36 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 12, 2020, 07:22:04 PM
...

So if anyone is interested in purchasing any of these please let me know! 8)

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/9VrsRNeA0SHcEeos1h/source.gif)
Dios mio.

What's wrong Mags, haven't you ever seen something like this before
No, never.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 17, 2020, 10:29:19 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 12, 2020, 07:22:04 PM
So I have a few hobbies to keep me busy, such as playing guitar, drawing, practicing yoga, and I also am an avid bicyclist. Well recently I've been visiting a sick friend, and they introduced me to crocheting, and strangely enough it struck a chord with me and I've starting creating some rather cool stuff that I'm actually selling!

Here are some pictures.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


By the way I know there are a couple folks here like JJ, and Bad Penny who like to use really small pans, so no worries guys. I can also make these extremely tiny, and small to fit any size pan!

So if anyone is interested in purchasing any of these please let me know! 8)

Such a Papasito Brunesque post!  ;D
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 18, 2020, 01:45:22 AM
Quote from: No one on February 13, 2020, 11:39:36 PM
Are terrible decisions really a form of art?

Oh yeah...  ::)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on February 26, 2020, 06:56:44 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on February 17, 2020, 10:29:19 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 12, 2020, 07:22:04 PM
So I have a few hobbies to keep me busy, such as playing guitar, drawing, practicing yoga, and I also am an avid bicyclist. Well recently I've been visiting a sick friend, and they introduced me to crocheting, and strangely enough it struck a chord with me and I've starting creating some rather cool stuff that I'm actually selling!

Here are some pictures.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


By the way I know there are a couple folks here like JJ, and Bad Penny who like to use really small pans, so no worries guys. I can also make these extremely tiny, and small to fit any size pan!

So if anyone is interested in purchasing any of these please let me know! 8)

Such a Papasito Brunesque post!  ;D

Thanks xSP, and I'll take that as a compliment, however. You'd be surprised how many here thought I was serious!

Hermes wanted to know if he could order some with chains attached. :-X
Bad Penny wanted to order some really tiny ones which he said he would use as finger puppets. ::)
Mags wanted a couple wooden ones made which she could smoke out of, and JJ wanted some bright pink ones with sprinkles! :o

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Magdalena on February 27, 2020, 12:40:49 AM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 26, 2020, 06:56:44 PM
...
Mags wanted...
...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/8AVExODnpQSqc/giphy.gif)

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Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on February 27, 2020, 03:40:12 AM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 26, 2020, 06:56:44 PM
Hermes wanted to know if he could order some with chains attached. :-X

Don't forget the cherry-flavoured ones I wanted as well.  :yum:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 07, 2020, 09:12:01 AM
Some time ago I posted a photo of some lead strips from the roof of a 1928 house I owned.

Here is the 900 x 900mm collage painting I did using the pieces. The significance of the 28 is that it was the street number of the house. Blue predominates, because I wanted to experiment with textures I could get using different blue pigments, including a new one for me, called Manganese Blue Hue by Winsor & Newton. It's a blend of pigments PB15 and PG7, because the original manganese blue (PB33) is unfortunately unobtainable now. If you have a stash of genuine PB33 somewhere, you're sitting on a goldmine!

(https://i.imgur.com/oFWsuCt.jpg)

Some details:
(https://i.imgur.com/oDlKGnA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YeD2Bvh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hFWyxp1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on May 07, 2020, 09:20:13 AM
 :love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
That's beautiful! And I know (online) a person who recently discovered some manganese blue in her paint stash. She sounded pretty happy about it, for the same reasons. Is the blend not as good a color? Whatever happened to all the manganese in the world? :D
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 07, 2020, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
That's beautiful! And I know (online) a person who recently discovered some manganese blue in her paint stash. She sounded pretty happy about it, for the same reasons. Is the blend not as good a color? Whatever happened to all the manganese in the world? :D

There is plenty of manganese in the world, but whatever the industrial need for barium manganate sulfate (PB33) was fell away, and production stopped in the 1970s. I don't know what its main use was. Its application as an artist's pigment was only a minor side use, so nobody is going to make it just for that purpose.

Regarding the blend, Winsor & Newton's is a mixture of two organic phthalocyanines (PG7 and PB15). Artists try to avoid blends, because even if the mass colour straight out of the tube is an excellent match to the original, it may misbehave in mixtures. In this painting I did not mix it with white, so I was OK.

Chemistry has its uses everywhere!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 07, 2020, 04:07:26 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 07, 2020, 09:12:01 AM
Some time ago I posted a photo of some lead strips from the roof of a 1928 house I owned.

Here is the 900 x 900mm collage painting I did using the pieces. The significance of the 28 is that it was the street number of the house. Blue predominates, because I wanted to experiment with textures I could get using different blue pigments, including a new one for me, called Manganese Blue Hue by Winsor & Newton. It's a blend of pigments PB15 and PG7, because the original manganese blue (PB33) is unfortunately unobtainable now. If you have a stash of genuine PB33 somewhere, you're sitting on a goldmine!

(https://i.imgur.com/oFWsuCt.jpg)

Some details:
(https://i.imgur.com/oDlKGnA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YeD2Bvh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hFWyxp1.jpg)

That's really beautiful, Hermes! You sure have an eye for aesthetics!

:tellmemore:

Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 07, 2020, 04:20:40 PM
Thank you for your kind words.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 06:57:42 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 07, 2020, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
That's beautiful! And I know (online) a person who recently discovered some manganese blue in her paint stash. She sounded pretty happy about it, for the same reasons. Is the blend not as good a color? Whatever happened to all the manganese in the world? :D

There is plenty of manganese in the world, but whatever the industrial need for barium manganate sulfate (PB33) was fell away, and production stopped in the 1970s. I don't know what its main use was. Its application as an artist's pigment was only a minor side use, so nobody is going to make it just for that purpose.

Regarding the blend, Winsor & Newton's is a mixture of two organic phthalocyanines (PG7 and PB15). Artists try to avoid blends, because even if the mass colour straight out of the tube is an excellent match to the original, it may misbehave in mixtures. In this painting I did not mix it with white, so I was OK.

Chemistry has its uses everywhere!

I was joking about the manganese. I went and looked because it piqued my interest. It would appear that the principal use was for coloring cement, like the blue in swimming pools. It originated as a paint color though. The process for making is toxic enough that production ceased.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 07, 2020, 07:09:18 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 06:57:42 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 07, 2020, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
That's beautiful! And I know (online) a person who recently discovered some manganese blue in her paint stash. She sounded pretty happy about it, for the same reasons. Is the blend not as good a color? Whatever happened to all the manganese in the world? :D

There is plenty of manganese in the world, but whatever the industrial need for barium manganate sulfate (PB33) was fell away, and production stopped in the 1970s. I don't know what its main use was. Its application as an artist's pigment was only a minor side use, so nobody is going to make it just for that purpose.

Regarding the blend, Winsor & Newton's is a mixture of two organic phthalocyanines (PG7 and PB15). Artists try to avoid blends, because even if the mass colour straight out of the tube is an excellent match to the original, it may misbehave in mixtures. In this painting I did not mix it with white, so I was OK.

Chemistry has its uses everywhere!

I was joking about the manganese. I went and looked because it piqued my interest. It would appear that the principal use was for coloring cement, like the blue in swimming pools. It originated as a paint color though. The process for making is toxic enough that production ceased.

Thanks, that's interesting information. I realized you weren't serious, because I know you well enough by now!  :thumbsup2:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on May 07, 2020, 07:28:55 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
That's beautiful! And I know (online) a person who recently discovered some manganese blue in her paint stash. She sounded pretty happy about it, for the same reasons. Is the blend not as good a color? Whatever happened to all the manganese in the world? :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomar_Explorer
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 07, 2020, 07:43:24 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 07, 2020, 07:28:55 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
That's beautiful! And I know (online) a person who recently discovered some manganese blue in her paint stash. She sounded pretty happy about it, for the same reasons. Is the blend not as good a color? Whatever happened to all the manganese in the world? :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomar_Explorer

It's fascinating how things are related and one thing leads to another. My showing of a new painting has led us into a discussion of Mn-related matters. That is why I never get bored.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on May 07, 2020, 07:45:56 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 07, 2020, 07:43:24 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 07, 2020, 07:28:55 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
That's beautiful! And I know (online) a person who recently discovered some manganese blue in her paint stash. She sounded pretty happy about it, for the same reasons. Is the blend not as good a color? Whatever happened to all the manganese in the world? :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomar_Explorer

It's fascinating how things are related and one thing leads to another. My showing of a new painting has led us into a discussion of Mn-related matters. That is why I never get bored.

It was a cover to raise a Russian submarine.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 10:56:28 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 07, 2020, 07:45:56 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 07, 2020, 07:43:24 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 07, 2020, 07:28:55 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
That's beautiful! And I know (online) a person who recently discovered some manganese blue in her paint stash. She sounded pretty happy about it, for the same reasons. Is the blend not as good a color? Whatever happened to all the manganese in the world? :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomar_Explorer

It's fascinating how things are related and one thing leads to another. My showing of a new painting has led us into a discussion of Mn-related matters. That is why I never get bored.

It was a cover to raise a Russian submarine.

Of relatively little value, but I met one of the engineers who worked on that attempt. He was a pretty sharp guy, but until I learned this I didn't understand why he got the gravitas that he did for his opinions.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 11:00:08 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 07, 2020, 07:09:18 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 06:57:42 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 07, 2020, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
That's beautiful! And I know (online) a person who recently discovered some manganese blue in her paint stash. She sounded pretty happy about it, for the same reasons. Is the blend not as good a color? Whatever happened to all the manganese in the world? :D

There is plenty of manganese in the world, but whatever the industrial need for barium manganate sulfate (PB33) was fell away, and production stopped in the 1970s. I don't know what its main use was. Its application as an artist's pigment was only a minor side use, so nobody is going to make it just for that purpose.

Regarding the blend, Winsor & Newton's is a mixture of two organic phthalocyanines (PG7 and PB15). Artists try to avoid blends, because even if the mass colour straight out of the tube is an excellent match to the original, it may misbehave in mixtures. In this painting I did not mix it with white, so I was OK.

Chemistry has its uses everywhere!

I was joking about the manganese. I went and looked because it piqued my interest. It would appear that the principal use was for coloring cement, like the blue in swimming pools. It originated as a paint color though. The process for making is toxic enough that production ceased.

Thanks, that's interesting information. I realized you weren't serious, because I know you well enough by now!  :thumbsup2:
:smilenod: If I ever say anything that might be attributed to malice, just look at it like it was supposed to be silly/humorous. That's where it will be coming from. People also understand when I'm not being silly/humorous, too! The danger is that sometimes I'm not taken seriously because I'm always joking around. But youse guys here are plenty smart enough to figure it out! I like dealing with smart people, it's so much easier.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: billy rubin on May 07, 2020, 11:37:54 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 10:56:28 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 07, 2020, 07:45:56 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 07, 2020, 07:43:24 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 07, 2020, 07:28:55 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 07, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
That's beautiful! And I know (online) a person who recently discovered some manganese blue in her paint stash. She sounded pretty happy about it, for the same reasons. Is the blend not as good a color? Whatever happened to all the manganese in the world? :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomar_Explorer

It's fascinating how things are related and one thing leads to another. My showing of a new painting has led us into a discussion of Mn-related matters. That is why I never get bored.

It was a cover to raise a Russian submarine.

Of relatively little value, but I met one of the engineers who worked on that attempt. He was a pretty sharp guy, but until I learned this I didn't understand why he got the gravitas that he did for his opinions.

that ship was mothballed near san francisco for years. you could look down on it from the benicia bridge and speculate.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 08, 2020, 05:06:41 AM
I have laid the foundation of a painting inspired by the labyrinth at Knossos on Crete: the labyrinth is raised about 10 mm above the surface of the canvas, with a real feather stuck above to represent the wings Daedalus made. The next step is to find colours that convey the feeling of the situation, perhaps with lots of blue for the sky and the sea surrounding Crete. Before I tell you what I thought would be a good palette, I would welcome any ideas from you guys.
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Post by: hermes2015 on July 16, 2020, 10:52:13 AM
Completed Opera painting in oils. It is shown in a very early stage as photo 9 in the Around My Place — HAF Photo Challenge thread. The size is 1200 x 750 mm.

(https://i.imgur.com/0U0bAll.jpg)

The last time I did this kind of hard edge painting, using high contrast acid colours, was way back in the 70's. My usual colours are sombre earthy pigments.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 16, 2020, 03:18:23 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on July 16, 2020, 10:52:13 AM
Completed Opera painting in oils. It is shown in a very early stage as photo 9 in the Around My Place — HAF Photo Challenge thread. The size is 1200 x 750 mm.

(https://i.imgur.com/0U0bAll.jpg)

The last time I did this kind of hard edge painting, using high contrast acid colours, was way back in the 70's. My usual colours are sombre earthy pigments.

Wow. :tellmemore: Love the strong colours!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on July 16, 2020, 03:41:27 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 16, 2020, 03:18:23 PM
Wow. :tellmemore: Love the strong colours!

:boaterhat:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on July 24, 2020, 09:53:09 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on July 16, 2020, 10:52:13 AM
Completed Opera painting in oils. It is shown in a very early stage as photo 9 in the Around My Place — HAF Photo Challenge thread. The size is 1200 x 750 mm.

(https://i.imgur.com/0U0bAll.jpg)

The last time I did this kind of hard edge painting, using high contrast acid colours, was way back in the 70's. My usual colours are sombre earthy pigments.

In your face, just like the real thing!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on October 22, 2020, 05:13:51 AM
I submitted this photo in the Spheres challenge. It isn't clear in the photo, but the undulating surface the balls are resting on has grooves shaped in the form of a labyrinth.

(https://i.imgur.com/zMEF0fr.jpg)

It was the underpainting for this painting I finished a few days ago. It is called Labyrinth, and was inspired by the colours of the walls in the palace of Knossos, the blues of the sea and the sky, as well as the bloody history of the labyrinth. The size is 760 x 610 mm.

(https://i.imgur.com/spym9un.jpg)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 22, 2020, 01:59:59 PM
That's really cool, Hermes! I especially love the combination of colours! :love:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on October 22, 2020, 02:32:34 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 22, 2020, 01:59:59 PM
That's really cool, Hermes! I especially love the combination of colours! :love:

Thank you. Your cheque is in the mail.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on October 22, 2020, 02:42:15 PM
That's a beautiful painting! I like it.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on October 22, 2020, 02:49:10 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on October 22, 2020, 02:42:15 PM
That's a beautiful painting! I like it.

Thanks. This one was for myself, unlike the last few I finished, and it's already hanging in its proper place. I want to do some more purely for my own amusement.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Bad Penny II on October 22, 2020, 02:50:28 PM
Ye, I really really like the blue blue one.
The balls are OK, have thought of adding a fish to the big one?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on October 22, 2020, 03:02:35 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on October 22, 2020, 02:50:28 PM
Ye, I really really like the blue blue one.
The balls are OK, have thought of adding a fish to the big one?

Earthworms would be more appropriate in most of my things, because they tend to be very earthy and sombre. I think the ones coming up soon will be even darker.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on March 13, 2021, 12:57:39 PM
My concrete sculpture has been installed on site, next to the pool. It is approximately life size (2 m long) and needed 4 people to lift it. The patination forms naturally and varies from batch to batch when the concrete is mixed. I liked the colours that developed, so decided to leave the concrete in its natural state.

(https://i.imgur.com/sEQpBPI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UG1pBnJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cbs7M39.jpg)

Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on March 13, 2021, 01:00:44 PM
Very eye catching.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 13, 2021, 02:33:10 PM
Very cool! Letting the colors form by themselves is much easier in terms of appearance, in the sense that anytime I, for instance, patinate something it usually looks forced, for lack of a better word. When I first started with my copper dodecahedron, I had it hanging in a screened in sun porch when I lived near the ocean. It was developing spots instead of a uniform color. But then I had to move and had no place outdoors to hang it.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on March 13, 2021, 03:10:21 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on March 13, 2021, 02:33:10 PM
Very cool! Letting the colors form by themselves is much easier in terms of appearance, in the sense that anytime I, for instance, patinate something it usually looks forced, for lack of a better word. When I first started with my copper dodecahedron, I had it hanging in a screened in sun porch when I lived near the ocean. It was developing spots instead of a uniform color. But then I had to move and had no place outdoors to hang it.

Thank you. I have used ammonia fumes to patinate copper. It works very well.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on March 13, 2021, 03:22:45 PM
This is a small sculpture I call Flamenco (height 220 mm), which I assembled from the parts of a broken lock. I patinated it by suspending the piece over ammonia in a closed plastic contained. The NH3 fumes caused the pretty blue patina on the brass.

(https://i.imgur.com/kuZJdY2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/LpH1gvE.jpg)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 13, 2021, 04:41:16 PM
:tellmemore: And to think, I've been tossing lock parts in the recycle bin!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: No one on March 13, 2021, 05:58:15 PM





















Me and my cloaking device.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 13, 2021, 10:12:13 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on March 13, 2021, 12:57:39 PM
My concrete sculpture has been installed on site, next to the pool. It is approximately life size (2 m long) and needed 4 people to lift it. The patination forms naturally and varies from batch to batch when the concrete is mixed. I liked the colours that developed, so decided to leave the concrete in its natural state.

(https://i.imgur.com/sEQpBPI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UG1pBnJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cbs7M39.jpg)

Wow, Hermes! That's impressive work!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Magdalena on March 13, 2021, 11:09:39 PM
^^^
:this:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Magdalena on March 13, 2021, 11:12:43 PM
Quote from: No one on March 13, 2021, 05:58:15 PM





















Me and my cloaking device.

Reminds me of this:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Randy on March 13, 2021, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on March 13, 2021, 12:57:39 PM
My concrete sculpture has been installed on site, next to the pool. It is approximately life size (2 m long) and needed 4 people to lift it. The patination forms naturally and varies from batch to batch when the concrete is mixed. I liked the colours that developed, so decided to leave the concrete in its natural state.

(https://i.imgur.com/sEQpBPI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UG1pBnJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cbs7M39.jpg)
That's amazing! You have a good skill.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on March 14, 2021, 03:33:33 AM
Thank you guys.  :hug:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: No one on March 15, 2021, 07:28:48 AM
When I wrore a younger man's clothes, I worked for a moving company.

We arrived at this house to pack up, and move ling distance.

It was a gay couple, there are  penises everywhere. Painted penises adorning there walls. Ceramic, marble and other hands carved penises as far as the eye could see. It was a sight, to say the least.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on March 15, 2021, 11:40:17 AM
Quote from: No one on March 15, 2021, 07:28:48 AM
When I wrore a younger man's clothes, I worked for a moving company.

We arrived at this house to pack up, and move ling distance.

It was a gay couple, there are  penises everywhere. Painted penises adorning there walls. Ceramic, marble and other hands carved penises as far as the eye could see. It was a sight, to say the least.

Ling distance? Probably more like lingam distance in this case.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 15, 2021, 02:37:22 PM
:lol:

I'm reminded of when I was out of work in '92 and the Employment Development Department showed me a requisition for a job, but the gals told me I didn't have to take it. Usually one has to at least interview when they're unemployed. It was for statistical process control in a dildo factory.

"Hmm, is this firm enough, or should we throw it back in the hopper and make a new one?"  ;D

I declined the job, as I didn't feel that I could handle it.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on March 15, 2021, 02:50:53 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on March 15, 2021, 02:37:22 PM
......
I declined the job, as I didn't feel that I could handle it.

:snicker1:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: billy rubin on March 15, 2021, 04:22:07 PM
i would have had to take that job for at least a whhile, just to be able to put it on my resume.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 15, 2021, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on March 15, 2021, 02:50:53 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on March 15, 2021, 02:37:22 PM
......
I declined the job, as I didn't feel that I could handle it.

:snicker1:

I put that there just for you!  :) I knew you'd pick up on it.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 15, 2021, 05:13:50 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on March 15, 2021, 04:22:07 PM
i would have had to take that job for at least a whhile, just to be able to put it on my resume.

Maybe they made inflatable dates. I wonder who road-tested them, if they did? Probably that guy with the cheesy all-day smile.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on March 15, 2021, 06:26:48 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on March 15, 2021, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on March 15, 2021, 02:50:53 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on March 15, 2021, 02:37:22 PM
......
I declined the job, as I didn't feel that I could handle it.

:snicker1:

I put that there just for you!  :) I knew you'd pick up on it.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on March 15, 2021, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on March 15, 2021, 04:22:07 PM
i would have had to take that job for at least a whhile, just to be able to put it on my resume.

I'd have gone for the interview just for the story!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on March 16, 2021, 03:08:27 AM
Are there testers in condom factories?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on March 16, 2021, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on March 16, 2021, 03:08:27 AM
Are there testers in condom factories?

In the factories it's water pumps and thickness gauges.

But there are such people as condom testers. Google it.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on March 16, 2021, 01:42:32 PM
It's interesting, isn't it, but I guess not unexpected, that my posting of a sculpture of a nude male has led to a discussion of condoms and dildoes?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 16, 2021, 02:24:39 PM
There are probably people who blow the condoms up in testing.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Magdalena on March 17, 2021, 01:10:06 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on March 16, 2021, 01:42:32 PM
It's interesting, isn't it, but I guess not unexpected, that my posting of a sculpture of a nude male has led to a discussion of condoms and dildoes?
Yes, it is interesting.
We've come a long way...Haven't we?

We could be talking about a fig leaf, sin, sex, and censorship.
:grin:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Randy on March 17, 2021, 02:28:34 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on March 17, 2021, 01:10:06 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on March 16, 2021, 01:42:32 PM
It's interesting, isn't it, but I guess not unexpected, that my posting of a sculpture of a nude male has led to a discussion of condoms and dildoes?
Yes, it is interesting.
We've come a long way...Haven't we?

We could be talking about a fig leaf, sin, sex, and censorship.
:grin:
Now that would be worth reading. :)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on March 17, 2021, 03:24:47 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on March 17, 2021, 01:10:06 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on March 16, 2021, 01:42:32 PM
It's interesting, isn't it, but I guess not unexpected, that my posting of a sculpture of a nude male has led to a discussion of condoms and dildoes?
Yes, it is interesting.
We've come a long way...Haven't we?

We could be talking about a fig leaf, sin, sex, and censorship.
:grin:

Well, I will take it that my work was successful. Indifference to one's work can be seen as failure.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: No one on March 17, 2021, 09:03:49 AM
On occasion, I've been known to turn a human's face into a bloody pulp, using only my hands.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Bad Penny II on March 17, 2021, 12:53:24 PM
Quote from: No one on March 17, 2021, 09:03:49 AM
On occasion, I've been known to turn a human's face into a bloody pulp, using only my hands.

Good job, we hate humans.
We do, we hate humans.
I've never done the "turn a human's face into a bloody pulp" thing but I've squashed a few blood filled mosquitoes in my time, they're almost as bad as humans.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on March 17, 2021, 01:15:20 PM
Quote from: No one on March 17, 2021, 09:03:49 AM
On occasion, I've been known to turn a human's face into a bloody pulp, using only my hands.

Oh, you are so butch!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Randy on March 18, 2021, 01:16:50 AM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on March 17, 2021, 12:53:24 PM
Quote from: No one on March 17, 2021, 09:03:49 AM
On occasion, I've been known to turn a human's face into a bloody pulp, using only my hands.

Good job, we hate humans.
We do, we hate humans.
I've never done the "turn a human's face into a bloody pulp" thing but I've squashed a few blood filled mosquitoes in my time, they're almost as bad as humans.
Good. I hate mosquitos. I attract everyone of them in the city. I'll have a lot of itchy bumps within ten minutes.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: No one on March 18, 2021, 05:01:21 AM
There's a skeeter on my peter whack him off (whack him off)
There's a skeeter on my peter whack him off (whack him off)
There's a skeeter on my peter
There's a skeeter on my peter
There's a skeeter on my peter whack him off
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 07, 2021, 05:05:38 AM
Exploring precarious balance.

Fast set concrete with metallic powder detailing. Height 800 mm.

(https://i.imgur.com/SNOpHTz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Q5FX4uw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vNJPRQ4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sov7DY1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on May 07, 2021, 08:43:59 AM
Fascinating structures.
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Post by: billy rubin on May 07, 2021, 12:56:26 PM
hermes, when you create something like this, how do you think about it? whst kind of vision do you have in mind when you start out? do you sketch it out on paper first?

how often do you change your mind while uoure doing it?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 07, 2021, 04:54:25 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 07, 2021, 12:56:26 PM
hermes, when you create something like this, how do you think about it? whst kind of vision do you have in mind when you start out? do you sketch it out on paper first?

how often do you change your mind while uoure doing it?

The "inspiration" in this case was a desire to put together elements that are balanced precariously in a way not usually seen in concrete sculptures. I had an idea of the shapes and I played around with different arrangements on paper; I used a graphite stick to do many drawings on A1 size paper. When I had the composition worked out, I cast the components separately, making sure to embed stainless steel mesh in strategic places for the joints. As you can imagine, the vision has to be pretty clear and unmuddled at this stage. The nature of the medium (concrete) and the process of casting the pieces do not allow too many changes of mind.

Painting is a different matter. I often start without a clear end result in mind. Oil paint, unlike concrete, allows one to be spontaneous and make drastic changes along the way.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 10, 2021, 05:09:32 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 07, 2021, 05:05:38 AM
Exploring precarious balance.

Fast set concrete with metallic powder detailing. Height 800 mm.

(https://i.imgur.com/SNOpHTz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Q5FX4uw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vNJPRQ4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sov7DY1.jpg)

That's cool! I especially like the top part...what you did with the arch. 
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Post by: hermes2015 on May 10, 2021, 05:41:39 PM
Thank you very much.
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Post by: Dark Lightning on May 10, 2021, 06:51:11 PM
That's beautiful, hermes! I would have figured rebar for the joints at the circle sections, but that would have been tougher to embed, I guess.
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Post by: hermes2015 on May 10, 2021, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 10, 2021, 06:51:11 PM
That's beautiful, hermes! I would have figured rebar for the joints at the circle sections, but that would have been tougher to embed, I guess.

Thank you! The pieces are only 16 mm thick, so rebar would be a bit too coarse. The stainless steel mesh I used gives amazing rigidity — there is almost zero flexing in the joint of the top piece.
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Post by: billy rubin on May 11, 2021, 05:17:38 PM
why do you create things?

what is it that makes you make art?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 11, 2021, 07:48:37 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 11, 2021, 05:17:38 PM
why do you create things?

what is it that makes you make art?

I can only speak for myself. The best way I can describe the urge to make something, is that it is an almost physical discomfort, like an itch that has to be scratched. In other words, it is an irresistible obsession that comes out of nowhere and takes over my thoughts and can even deprive me of sleep. Perhaps it is a form of insanity.
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Post by: billy rubin on May 12, 2021, 01:50:35 AM
isnt that interesting?

its like creativity is a physiological thing
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Post by: hermes2015 on May 12, 2021, 04:22:52 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 12, 2021, 01:50:35 AM
isnt that interesting?

its like creativity is a physiological thing

Yes, with me it is a physical drive, but at the same time cerebral as well, hence my use of 3D software to work out the details before I start working on something. It is very hard to put into words, which is why I don't write poetry, but create non-verbal physical objects like paintings and sculptures. My body reacts in a similar way when I listen to music I like.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 13, 2021, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 11, 2021, 07:48:37 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 11, 2021, 05:17:38 PM
why do you create things?

what is it that makes you make art?

I can only speak for myself. The best way I can describe the urge to make something, is that it is an almost physical discomfort, like an itch that has to be scratched. In other words, it is an irresistible obsession that comes out of nowhere and takes over my thoughts and can even deprive me of sleep. Perhaps it is a form of insanity.

:grin:

Ah, I miss feeling those urges! :tellmemore: I haven't felt like that in a long time. 
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Post by: hermes2015 on May 13, 2021, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on May 13, 2021, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 11, 2021, 07:48:37 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 11, 2021, 05:17:38 PM
why do you create things?

what is it that makes you make art?

I can only speak for myself. The best way I can describe the urge to make something, is that it is an almost physical discomfort, like an itch that has to be scratched. In other words, it is an irresistible obsession that comes out of nowhere and takes over my thoughts and can even deprive me of sleep. Perhaps it is a form of insanity.

:grin:

Ah, I miss feeling those urges! :tellmemore: I haven't felt like that in a long time.

It's high time you fell in love again.
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Post by: hermes2015 on December 19, 2021, 02:06:56 PM
Concrete bookends: Egyptian cat god Bastet.

I took an existing Bastet image, but put a contemporary twist on it by applying my favourite slicing technique to it. I wanted to give the concrete a patina that made the bookends look like ancient artifacts, but without looking too kitschy. I think I have managed to make them look battered and old, as if they were found in a tomb in Egypt.

I included some objects in the second photo to give a sense of scale.

(https://i.imgur.com/aqmO4oS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TdFgFH4.jpg)
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Post by: Dark Lightning on December 19, 2021, 04:13:24 PM
Cool! I see a book title that I'm going to look into, as well- "Art and Physics".
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Post by: hermes2015 on December 19, 2021, 04:29:18 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on December 19, 2021, 04:13:24 PM
Cool! I see a book title that I'm going to look into, as well- "Art and Physics".

It is still in my pile of books waiting to be read, so I don't know how good it is. All I can tell you is that the author, Leonard Shlain, is a surgeon.
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Post by: Recusant on December 19, 2021, 07:18:17 PM
A gorgeous pair of bookends, hermes2015! Really splendid.  :)
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Post by: billy rubin on December 20, 2021, 01:18:58 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on December 19, 2021, 04:29:18 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on December 19, 2021, 04:13:24 PM
Cool! I see a book title that I'm going to look into, as well- "Art and Physics".

It is still in my pile of books waiting to be read, so I don't know how good it is. All I can tell you is that the author, Leonard Shlain, is a surgeon.

i am suspicious already
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Post by: billy rubin on December 20, 2021, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 13, 2021, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on May 13, 2021, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 11, 2021, 07:48:37 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 11, 2021, 05:17:38 PM
why do you create things?

what is it that makes you make art?

I can only speak for myself. The best way I can describe the urge to make something, is that it is an almost physical discomfort, like an itch that has to be scratched. In other words, it is an irresistible obsession that comes out of nowhere and takes over my thoughts and can even deprive me of sleep. Perhaps it is a form of insanity.

:grin:

Ah, I miss feeling those urges! :tellmemore: I haven't felt like that in a long time.

It's high time you fell in love again.

graduate school does that.

i remember walking into a bookstore after graduating from something or other and realizing tjat i could read any book that i wanted.

i hadnt had time to read anything eccept texts, papers, and proposals for several years.
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Post by: hermes2015 on December 20, 2021, 02:45:56 AM
Quote from: Recusant on December 19, 2021, 07:18:17 PM
A gorgeous pair of bookends, hermes2015! Really splendid.  :)

Thank you.
:boaterhat:
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Post by: hermes2015 on December 20, 2021, 05:59:01 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on December 20, 2021, 01:18:58 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on December 19, 2021, 04:29:18 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on December 19, 2021, 04:13:24 PM
Cool! I see a book title that I'm going to look into, as well- "Art and Physics".

It is still in my pile of books waiting to be read, so I don't know how good it is. All I can tell you is that the author, Leonard Shlain, is a surgeon.

i am suspicious already

Same here, but then, the specialist who cured my duodenal ulcer many years ago was a genuine authority on Picasso. I tried to trick him up, but he never failed.
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Post by: Tank on December 20, 2021, 08:36:38 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on December 19, 2021, 02:06:56 PM
Concrete bookends: Egyptian cat god Bastet.

I took an existing Bastet image, but put a contemporary twist on it by applying my favourite slicing technique to it. I wanted to give the concrete a patina that made the bookends look like ancient artifacts, but without looking too kitschy. I think I have managed to make them look battered and old, as if they were found in a tomb in Egypt.

I included some objects in the second photo to give a sense of scale.

(https://i.imgur.com/aqmO4oS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TdFgFH4.jpg)

I love them. Did you make all the segments separately and then assemble them or did you build them onto each other? If that makes sense?
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Post by: hermes2015 on December 20, 2021, 08:58:14 AM
Thanks, Tank. I used my usual material, rapid set concrete, for the cats and the black stands, reinforced internally with another staple material of mine: stainless steel mesh. I sliced the model in Rhino 7, printed the slices, and cast the slices in moulds made of plasticine slabs that were rolled out 4mm thick on vinyl sheets. The slice profiles were cut into the plasticine slabs to make little dams for the poured concrete. The hard concrete slices were then glued together with concrete slurry. The cats stand 240mm high
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Post by: Tank on December 20, 2021, 01:12:12 PM
They really are characterful pieces.
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Post by: hermes2015 on December 20, 2021, 02:05:04 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 20, 2021, 01:12:12 PM
They really are characterful pieces.

Thank you. They were made as a gift for someone who is a great reader. I'm sure she will be happy with them. As part of my recent experiments with using concrete to achieve thick textures in paintings, I have done a few very brutal paintings in concrete, strictly for my own use. I will post them here in a day or so.
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Post by: Icarus on December 20, 2021, 05:03:13 PM
Elegant and creative work Hermes.
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Post by: hermes2015 on December 20, 2021, 06:31:47 PM
Quote from: Icarus on December 20, 2021, 05:03:13 PM
Elegant and creative work Hermes.

Thank you!
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Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 20, 2021, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on December 19, 2021, 02:06:56 PM
Concrete bookends: Egyptian cat god Bastet.

I took an existing Bastet image, but put a contemporary twist on it by applying my favourite slicing technique to it. I wanted to give the concrete a patina that made the bookends look like ancient artifacts, but without looking too kitschy. I think I have managed to make them look battered and old, as if they were found in a tomb in Egypt.

I included some objects in the second photo to give a sense of scale.

(https://i.imgur.com/aqmO4oS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TdFgFH4.jpg)

Wow, Hermes! You never fail to impress!  :bravo:

(So, when are you going to mail me an pair of concrete dog bookends? :grin:)
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Post by: hermes2015 on December 21, 2021, 02:49:23 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 20, 2021, 10:01:30 PM
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(So, when are you going to mail me an pair of concrete dog bookends? :grin:)

Thanks! I think wrapping bookends with raised hind legs will be a bit challenging.
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Post by: Bad Penny II on December 21, 2021, 09:39:32 AM
I dislike cats as matter of principle but I like your cats more than your find of a lifetime vase.
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Post by: hermes2015 on December 21, 2021, 12:16:12 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on December 21, 2021, 09:39:32 AM
I dislike cats as matter of principle but I like your cats more than your find of a lifetime vase.

:boaterhat:
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Post by: billy rubin on December 21, 2021, 10:20:10 PM
why bastet?
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Post by: hermes2015 on December 22, 2021, 02:51:49 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on December 21, 2021, 10:20:10 PM
why bastet?

The person I made it for is a cat lover and an avid reader. She and I both love ancient Egyptian art, so I had the idea to synthesize all the elements into a contemporary interpretation of Bastet in the form of bookends. I thought that it would look kitschy to try and reproduce an artefact realistically.
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Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 23, 2021, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on December 21, 2021, 02:49:23 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 20, 2021, 10:01:30 PM
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(So, when are you going to mail me an pair of concrete dog bookends? :grin:)

Thanks! I think wrapping bookends with raised hind legs will be a bit challenging.

:lol:

Just because they're books doesn't mean they're still trees.  :P
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Post by: hermes2015 on December 23, 2021, 06:09:27 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 23, 2021, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on December 21, 2021, 02:49:23 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 20, 2021, 10:01:30 PM
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(So, when are you going to mail me an pair of concrete dog bookends? :grin:)

Thanks! I think wrapping bookends with raised hind legs will be a bit challenging.

:lol:

Just because they're books doesn't mean they're still trees.  :P

Yes, but my dogs would probably fancy themselves as literary critics.
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Post by: Magdalena on December 23, 2021, 06:21:26 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on December 19, 2021, 02:06:56 PM
Concrete bookends: Egyptian cat god Bastet.

I took an existing Bastet image, but put a contemporary twist on it by applying my favourite slicing technique to it. I wanted to give the concrete a patina that made the bookends look like ancient artifacts, but without looking too kitschy. I think I have managed to make them look battered and old, as if they were found in a tomb in Egypt.

I included some objects in the second photo to give a sense of scale.

(https://i.imgur.com/aqmO4oS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TdFgFH4.jpg)
Wow! Those are nice.  :tellmemore:
You're creative and talented.
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Post by: hermes2015 on December 23, 2021, 06:24:46 PM
Thank you for your kind words.  :love:
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Post by: Icarus on December 25, 2021, 12:22:02 AM
Hermes, you also stage photos with some skill and talent.
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Post by: hermes2015 on December 25, 2021, 02:40:52 AM
Quote from: Icarus on December 25, 2021, 12:22:02 AM
Hermes, you also stage photos with some skill and talent.

Thank you for noticing, Icarus. I take pleasure in the whole process. from making stuff, all the way to the end when I take the photos for my records.
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Post by: hermes2015 on January 10, 2022, 11:25:03 AM
I had an idea to apply rapid set concrete, that has been my go-to medium for sculptures for a while, to hardboard panels. The problem is the weight and the challenge of making it stick, so I decided to bolt stainless steel mesh to the panel, spaced 5 mm from the surface.

(https://i.imgur.com/9U17v4u.jpg)

This panel is 610 x 760mm and was the foundation for the following painting:

(https://i.imgur.com/blW38h9.jpg)

This series of paintings was intended to be hung on my own walls, so the aim was to produce something that was not seductively pretty. I am fond of dark, almost black, paintings, hence my use of sombre colours. I didn't expect anyone to take to it, but it has been received very well over at the Creative Spark forum. This one weighs 8.4kg. The dark green bar near the bottom is 16mm thick.
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Post by: Dark Lightning on January 10, 2022, 02:12:58 PM
Looks kind of brutal. I like it!
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Post by: hermes2015 on January 10, 2022, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 10, 2022, 02:12:58 PM
Looks kind of brutal. I like it!

Thank you, you've detected the essence of what I intended, so that makes me happy. It belongs to a tradition of art brut, to which Jean Dubuffet and Antoni Tapies, amongst others, were venerable contributors.
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Post by: Tank on January 10, 2022, 04:56:51 PM
Love the combination of colours and textures. As DL says brutal.
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Post by: hermes2015 on January 10, 2022, 05:07:50 PM
Quote from: Tank on January 10, 2022, 04:56:51 PM
Love the combination of colours and textures. As DL says brutal.

Thank you, Tank. I think it is the least accessible one in the series. I will show the others as well. Still finishing the last one in this group.
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Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on January 14, 2022, 04:07:19 PM
The impression it gives is stark and ominous. I think I'll go back to bed and hide under the covers. Barbarians are at the gate!
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Post by: hermes2015 on January 14, 2022, 05:46:25 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on January 14, 2022, 04:07:19 PM
The impression it gives is stark and ominous. I think I'll go back to bed and hide under the covers. Barbarians are at the gate!

Well, I am happy that at least you were not indifferent to it! That is worse even that dislike or hatred. It is the least accessible painting in the series, as you will see when I post the rest.
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Post by: hermes2015 on January 15, 2022, 06:25:55 AM
Another in the series of my concrete texture paintings. This one is friendlier than the first one I posted and is fairly big and heavy at 800 x 800mm and 10.2kg. The groove has a metallic silver texture.

(https://i.imgur.com/VfITNa1.jpg)

I hope it doesn't cause too much distress, gentle HAF members.
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Post by: Tank on January 15, 2022, 08:30:38 AM
Compared to the first one this feels 'disconnected' in some way. Doesn't stir emotions in the same way the other one did.
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Post by: hermes2015 on January 15, 2022, 09:32:01 AM
Quote from: Tank on January 15, 2022, 08:30:38 AM
Compared to the first one this feels 'disconnected' in some way. Doesn't stir emotions in the same way the other one did.

Thank you for the valid comment, Tank.
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Post by: billy rubin on January 15, 2022, 10:40:02 PM
i cant see jack on my phone. but ill be home tuesdsy and ill look then
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Post by: Dark Lightning on January 16, 2022, 12:28:37 AM
This is some dark stuff, Hermes. Darker than the first one, to me.
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Post by: hermes2015 on January 16, 2022, 04:08:40 AM
This one is prettier than the first two. The size is 400 x 400mm, so very small for me. After the brutalist character of the first two, I wanted to do something more lyrical, with a gentler texture. I decided to do a variation on one of the profiles of the left leg of my concrete poolside reclining nude. As a reminder, I'm referring to this one I posted before.

(https://i.imgur.com/oXsSVV1.jpg)

This is one of the A0 size AutoCad files I used when I was making the sculpture:

(https://i.imgur.com/JzL4PvI.jpg)

The shape I used is top left.

(https://i.imgur.com/wQ4ecrU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bKrafrZ.jpg)
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Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on January 16, 2022, 04:24:35 PM
These are quite interesting. They invite me to consider at a deeper level.
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Post by: hermes2015 on January 16, 2022, 05:07:18 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on January 16, 2022, 04:24:35 PM
These are quite interesting. They invite me to consider at a deeper level.

Thank you! Ha, yes, the level is 7mm deep on this one.
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Post by: Tank on January 17, 2022, 10:04:54 AM
I really enjoy seeing the these insights into your work.
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Post by: hermes2015 on January 17, 2022, 02:12:42 PM
Quote from: Tank on January 17, 2022, 10:04:54 AM
I really enjoy seeing the these insights into your work.

Thanks! I am finishing the last of the concrete painting experiments before moving on to other ideas. I feel some brighter, more cheerful colours bubbling up.
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Post by: hermes2015 on January 29, 2022, 04:47:30 PM
This one is 760 x 610mm. The textured areas are stained and painted concrete, with the intentionally exposed stainless steel reinforcing mesh painted as well. If anyone spots a resemblance to Stonehenge, you are not wrong. The shapes are based loosely on one view of Stonehenge. This was purely a design decision; there is no deeper meaning apart from whatever a viewer may see in it. If anything, in my mind it has a certain ancient Egyptian undertone.

(https://i.imgur.com/uiCe5oe.jpg)

Detail
(https://i.imgur.com/pdPwquc.jpg)
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Post by: hermes2015 on January 29, 2022, 04:58:16 PM
To show that I am capable of making bright and cheerful paintings, here is something from my youth. When I was a post grad student I found a discarded spokeless bicycle wheel on campus. I took it home and mounted it on a 910 x 1220mm primed board. I painted sharply defined stripes in complementary colours on the board with Winsor & Newton oils, then strung nylon sash cord through the rim. I painted the cord with pigmented polyester resin. There is an interesting moving optical effect when one walks past the painting, because of the relative movement of the cords in front of the background stripes. I've had many offers, but I still have it.

(https://i.imgur.com/DfoRK0r.jpg)
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Post by: TheFightSong on January 31, 2022, 06:38:44 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 07, 2021, 05:05:38 AM
Exploring precarious balance.

Fast set concrete with metallic powder detailing. Height 800 mm.

(https://i.imgur.com/SNOpHTz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Q5FX4uw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vNJPRQ4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sov7DY1.jpg)
:yum:
That makes me think of long, hard, and thick elbow macaroni pasta. Also, it makes think of a long, hard, and thick cheeseball. Makes me want to eat some small, soft, and thin macaroni pasta with cheese in a bowl. Mmm... I'm thinking about the arousing sound of stirring macaroni and cheese before it reaches my lips.
:let'seat:
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Post by: Recusant on January 31, 2022, 06:57:25 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 29, 2022, 04:47:30 PM
This one is 760 x 610mm. The textured areas are stained and painted concrete, with the intentionally exposed stainless steel reinforcing mesh painted as well. If anyone spots a resemblance to Stonehenge, you are not wrong. The shapes are based loosely on one view of Stonehenge. This was purely a design decision; there is no deeper meaning apart from whatever a viewer may see in it. If anything, in my mind it has a certain ancient Egyptian undertone.

(https://i.imgur.com/uiCe5oe.jpg)

. . .

I like this one best of the concrete painting series you've shared. The red dominates and seems to make it the warmest of them. Also, I am a sucker for megalithic references.  :)
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Post by: hermes2015 on February 01, 2022, 03:57:52 AM
Thank you guys. I appreciate your comments.

I am working on a painting that incorporates copper tubing. Will see whether any megalithic references spring to mind.
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Post by: Dark Lightning on February 01, 2022, 04:00:16 PM
Cool! Does the red medallion signify the sun?

Will you be patinating any of the copper? I gotta get going on some projects. I'm chipping away at a carving, atm.
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Post by: hermes2015 on February 01, 2022, 04:26:31 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on February 01, 2022, 04:00:16 PM
Cool! Does the red medallion signify the sun?

Will you be patinating any of the copper? I gotta get going on some projects. I'm chipping away at a carving, atm.

Thank you. My public stance is that the painting and its components have no deeper meaning, other than being purely physically attractive (to me) elements. I must confess, though, that I was thinking of Egyptian art while working on the painting. So, the red element could symbolize Ra if that is what anyone wants to see in it.

I don't think I will apply any chemical patination to the copper, which is in the form of 3mm refrigeration grade tubing, but will probably do some glazing effects. I used ammonia fumes on a small objet trouvé brass sculpture once, but I feel I will not have enough control over that process in my painting.

Later: I forgot to ask what you're carving. Are you going to show us the work in progress?
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Post by: Dark Lightning on February 02, 2022, 02:37:16 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on February 01, 2022, 04:26:31 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on February 01, 2022, 04:00:16 PM
Cool! Does the red medallion signify the sun?

Will you be patinating any of the copper? I gotta get going on some projects. I'm chipping away at a carving, atm.

Thank you. My public stance is that the painting and its components have no deeper meaning, other than being purely physically attractive (to me) elements. I must confess, though, that I was thinking of Egyptian art while working on the painting. So, the red element could symbolize Ra if that is what anyone wants to see in it.

I don't think I will apply any chemical patination to the copper, which is in the form of 3mm refrigeration grade tubing, but will probably do some glazing effects. I used ammonia fumes on a small objet trouvé brass sculpture once, but I feel I will not have enough control over that process in my painting.

Later: I forgot to ask what you're carving. Are you going to show us the work in progress?

I'm sure that you were amazed at how fast ammonia fumes work. I know I was surprised, when I exposed a copper project to them and left it overnight! I had already used household bleach to get a nice copper chloride patina, and panicked (and damned near passed out from unexpected the fumes) when I opened the container later to see a really dark green project. I managed to wire brush a lot of the ammonia treatment off to get a variegated "natural finish".  I think I've posted that project previously, so I'll post that pic last. But here is my work in process on my family coat of arms-

(https://i.imgur.com/enTQhcY.jpg)

This is the original artwork-
(https://i.imgur.com/WZ86517.jpg)

The meaning of this coat of arms: The two quills (look like feathers, and were used for writing) are placed in "a pile", which represents engineers as a heraldic symbol- a "pile" is how bridges were built, back in the day. Quills signify education, so indicate that I am educated in an engineering discipline (even though I have a degree in physics, I have a ton of engineering background, and worked in that occupation for 25+ years). The two diamonds signify "probity" in the old speak, which indicates honesty. Nothing better than an honest engineer, when one expects the results of their efforts to be effective, and honesty would be the policy, as their failure could have life-threatening results. The "zig-zag" line is a separator between the "chief" and the "field" of the shield. The shape is generally called "embattled", which means that one's life has been a challenge. Too true, for me. The three fleur-de-lis represent royalty and the trinity. I'm neither royalty nor religious. I just like the fleur-de-lis. :lol: Any questions, just ask me. I'm sure that I've left something out.

The copper job-

(https://i.imgur.com/Lp8KFO6.jpg)
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Post by: hermes2015 on February 02, 2022, 03:32:33 AM
Your carving is wonderfully meticulous and I like the smooth finish, unlike my stuff, in which I am going through a grungy phase. I remember seeing your copper dodecahedron when you posted it. I will try the bleach patination chemistry some time when I need a copper chloride colour. In the painting I am thinking of a more shiny, honey-brownish colour like lacquered magnet wire.
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Post by: billy rubin on February 02, 2022, 10:43:43 AM
jeez

about the best art i can do is draw a chicken in orange crayon.

i am humbled by all the talent here
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Post by: hermes2015 on February 02, 2022, 10:56:54 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on February 02, 2022, 10:43:43 AM
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about the best art i can do is draw a chicken in orange crayon.

Show me your chicken.
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Post by: Dark Lightning on February 02, 2022, 02:45:28 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on February 02, 2022, 03:32:33 AM
Your carving is wonderfully meticulous and I like the smooth finish, unlike my stuff, in which I am going through a grungy phase. I remember seeing your copper dodecahedron when you posted it. I will try the bleach patination chemistry some time when I need a copper chloride colour. In the painting I am thinking of a more shiny, honey-brownish colour like lacquered magnet wire.

Thanks, but it's going to be a lot smoother when I'm done. It also is going to get a lot more detail. I've a long way to go. As for the patination, it's easy. Just set the item on some isolators (I used rocks) pour the bleach into the container, put the item in and close the lid. It took about a week with bleach. It might have been quicker with muriatic acid, but that presents a disposal problem. Liver of sulfur might give you the brown you want. Or just spray the item with honey-brown lacquer. :D
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Post by: hermes2015 on February 02, 2022, 03:01:45 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on February 02, 2022, 02:45:28 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on February 02, 2022, 03:32:33 AM
Your carving is wonderfully meticulous and I like the smooth finish, unlike my stuff, in which I am going through a grungy phase. I remember seeing your copper dodecahedron when you posted it. I will try the bleach patination chemistry some time when I need a copper chloride colour. In the painting I am thinking of a more shiny, honey-brownish colour like lacquered magnet wire.

Thanks, but it's going to be a lot smoother when I'm done. It also is going to get a lot more detail. I've a long way to go. As for the patination, it's easy. Just set the item on some isolators (I used rocks) pour the bleach into the container, put the item in and close the lid. It took about a week with bleach. It might have been quicker with muriatic acid, but that presents a disposal problem. Liver of sulfur might give you the brown you want. Or just spray the item with honey-brown lacquer. :D

Thanks for the tip. I did the ammonia that way, but never thought of using bleach. The way I will do the copper is to use the traditional oil painting technique of glazing, which is a trick I use in almost all my paintings. It gives rich, glowing colours.
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Post by: hermes2015 on February 02, 2022, 03:53:02 PM
DL, can you recommend a good way to fix the patina to make it resistant to rubbing? Varnish will make it too shiny and will darken that chalky look that verdigris has.
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Post by: Dark Lightning on February 02, 2022, 05:05:36 PM
Depends on how much rubbing you expect, but I use clear matte lacquer. I got mine from these people- https://sculptnouveau.com/products/clear-guard?variant=6891796037697 (https://sculptnouveau.com/products/clear-guard?variant=6891796037697)

If you expect a lot of handling you might try catalyzed automotive paint. I don't think that they make zero gloss, though.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on February 02, 2022, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on February 02, 2022, 05:05:36 PM
Depends on how much rubbing you expect, but I use clear matte lacquer. I got mine from these people- https://sculptnouveau.com/products/clear-guard?variant=6891796037697 (https://sculptnouveau.com/products/clear-guard?variant=6891796037697)

If you expect a lot of handling you might try catalyzed automotive paint. I don't think that they make zero gloss, though.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Icarus on February 03, 2022, 03:30:36 AM
I have zero art skills but if you want to flatten a varnish or other clear coat, you can mix zinc stearate into the vehicle.  Zinc stearate is one of the major components of many talcum Pouders. You might try something like Santocell which is the thickener for epoxy and polyester fiberglass builds.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on February 03, 2022, 03:58:04 AM
Quote from: Icarus on February 03, 2022, 03:30:36 AM
I have zero art skills but if you want to flatten a varnish or other clear coat, you can mix zinc stearate into the vehicle.  Zinc stearate is one of the major components of many talcum Pouders. You might try something like Santocell which is the thickener for epoxy and polyester fiberglass builds.

Thanks for that, Icarus. I will play around and see when I have time.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on February 03, 2022, 07:57:42 AM
I love this thread and its diverse contributions.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on February 03, 2022, 08:42:36 AM
Quote from: Tank on February 03, 2022, 07:57:42 AM
I love this thread and its diverse contributions.

Yes, I agree. There is an interesting subculture of makers at HAF who share many personality traits. Dave was one of them.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on February 09, 2022, 02:25:28 PM
Dark Lightning, your wood-carving is exquisite, wow...that's really nice work and the detail and smoothness is really something.

Looking at your picture I swear I could smell the wood.

Amazing work, and please keep us posted on your progress.

8)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 09, 2022, 02:52:48 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 09, 2022, 02:25:28 PM
Dark Lightning, your wood-carving is exquisite, wow...that's really nice work and the detail and smoothness is really something.

Looking at your picture I swear I could smell the wood.

Amazing work, and please keep us posted on your progress.

8)

Thanks!
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Post by: Biggus Dickus on February 11, 2022, 05:15:59 PM
I'm drawing a horsey....I am happy with the details of the face so far, but I have to do something about the mane as it seems out of place. :o

(https://i.imgur.com/7xaC3qx.jpg)

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Post by: billy rubin on February 15, 2022, 12:23:07 AM
i didnt make it but i wishi had




id never heard of tbese

theres an engraver making new ones now, forsale he hopes
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 09, 2022, 01:02:46 PM
A useful technique to expand art skills is to try something totally outside one's comfort zone. I did a self-imposed exercise like that recently, when I gave myself the task of painting a still life of a Hokkaido pumpkin, a tomato, and a green bell pepper. Not something I am usually interested in doing. The idea wasn't to produce a "work of art", but at least one person like it enough to ask me for it and it is now hanging in her kitchen. It was an interesting exercise in that I felt uncomfortable painting it, but it was nevertheless a good learning experience.

Alkyd oil paints, size 600 x 760 mm

(https://i.imgur.com/htanaZ0.jpg)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: billy rubin on May 09, 2022, 05:39:36 PM
if something is uncomfortable to do, it sometimes means that it can expand your envelope in rewarding ways. not always, of course, but sometimes

i like the painting
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Post by: Dark Lightning on May 09, 2022, 05:53:15 PM
Nice! It's better than I can do with my camera, sad to say.
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Post by: hermes2015 on May 09, 2022, 06:03:22 PM
Thanks for the kind words, guys.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 09, 2022, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 09, 2022, 05:39:36 PMif something is uncomfortable to do, it sometimes means that it can expand your envelope in rewarding ways. not always, of course, but sometimes

i like the painting

Thank you. That is precisely why I forced myself to do it. My tastes lie more in the Antoni Tapies camp, so getting into alien territory was a rewarding learning experience as far as colour observation and the glazing technique are concerned.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 09, 2022, 06:27:30 PM
I forgot to mention that, because I must have masochistic tendencies, I am about to finish a second out-of-my-comfort-zone painting. This one is of orange and yellow canna lilies against an intense green background. I will be posting it when it is done.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 10, 2022, 10:24:21 AM
Another first for me: a painting of flowers. I attempted to show the glowing oranges and yellows bought out by the ray of sunshine backlighting the flowers on an otherwise overcast day.

My usual alkyd oils, using glazing to create a stained glass effect in the grassy background and the petals.

Size 600 x 600 mm.

(https://i.imgur.com/iqPtamR.jpg)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 10, 2022, 02:02:14 PM
Wow, that is voluptuous!
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 10, 2022, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 10, 2022, 02:02:14 PMWow, that is voluptuous!

Ha, thanks. That's probably enough of the bright colours for now. I will be returning to my preferred sombre schemes in the next ones. This and the previous one were just exercises.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: billy rubin on May 10, 2022, 04:27:05 PM
what is your opinion of georgia o keefe?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 10, 2022, 05:39:21 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 10, 2022, 04:27:05 PMwhat is your opinion of georgia o keefe?


I do admire her work, but I must admit my judgement may be clouded by an admiration for the persona behind the products of her aesthetic point of view.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Magdalena on May 10, 2022, 08:23:15 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 10, 2022, 10:24:21 AMAnother first for me: a painting of flowers. I attempted to show the glowing oranges and yellows bought out by the ray of sunshine backlighting the flowers on an otherwise overcast day.

My usual alkyd oils, using glazing to create a stained glass effect in the grassy background and the petals.

Size 600 x 600 mm.

(https://i.imgur.com/iqPtamR.jpg)

Ooh! Nice! :)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: billy rubin on May 11, 2022, 12:36:06 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 10, 2022, 05:39:21 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 10, 2022, 04:27:05 PMwhat is your opinion of georgia o keefe?


I do admire her work, but I must admit my judgement may be clouded by an admiration for the persona behind the products of her aesthetic point of view.

i know little about her life, but her flowers and skulls have adorned my walls whenever o have the opportunity. your second piecereminds me of her stuff

very different style but still reminiscent
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 11, 2022, 04:06:37 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 11, 2022, 12:36:06 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 10, 2022, 05:39:21 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 10, 2022, 04:27:05 PMwhat is your opinion of georgia o keefe?


I do admire her work, but I must admit my judgement may be clouded by an admiration for the persona behind the products of her aesthetic point of view.

i know little about her life, but her flowers and skulls have adorned my walls whenever o have the opportunity. your second piecereminds me of her stuff

very different style but still reminiscent

Georgia was married to the great Alfred Stieglitz, who played an important role in Marcel Duchamp's life when Duchamp was in New York as a young man.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 11, 2022, 04:07:44 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on May 10, 2022, 08:23:15 PMOoh! Nice! :)

Thank you, my dear.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: billy rubin on May 11, 2022, 01:33:27 PM
more to learn about
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Biggus Dickus on May 11, 2022, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 09, 2022, 01:02:46 PMA useful technique to expand art skills is to try something totally outside one's comfort zone. I did a self-imposed exercise like that recently, when I gave myself the task of painting a still life of a Hokkaido pumpkin, a tomato, and a green bell pepper. Not something I am usually interested in doing. The idea wasn't to produce a "work of art", but at least one person like it enough to ask me for it and it is now hanging in her kitchen. It was an interesting exercise in that I felt uncomfortable painting it, but it was nevertheless a good learning experience.

Alkyd oil paints, size 600 x 760 mm

(https://i.imgur.com/htanaZ0.jpg)
Quote from: Magdalena on May 10, 2022, 08:23:15 PM(https://i.imgur.com/iqPtamR.jpg)


Hermes!

These are both very beautiful, nice work, nice work indeed!!

I love the colors in both paintings,...the more I look at the flower the more and more I like it, again very nice work. I feel as if I'm lying in the grass staring at the petals against a long green meadow!!

 :hammock:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 11, 2022, 05:59:56 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on May 11, 2022, 05:14:40 PMHermes!

These are both very beautiful, nice work, nice work indeed!!

I love the colors in both paintings,...the more I look at the flower the more and more I like it, again very nice work. I feel as if I'm lying in the grass staring at the petals against a long green meadow!!

 :hammock:

Thank you for your kind words. They have both been received very well, in spite of just being self-imposed training tasks and a bit of a slog.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 06, 2023, 04:36:55 AM
I haven't produced any art for almost a year. I have experienced low physical and emotional energy caused by the hormone therapy which was part of my prostate cancer treatment. This painting is not like my usual sombre non-figurative paintings, since I did it at the request of someone close to me, who has helped me through some difficult times. She wanted something floral, cheerful, and sunny. I produced what is frankly a pastiche—something I would not do for anyone else, so don't judge me too harshly! At least she is really happy with it.

The flowers are fairly realistic, but the background of leaves is more abstract. Oil paint. Size: 800mm x 800m.

(https://i.imgur.com/9c3jLeP.jpg)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MarcusA on May 06, 2023, 04:48:47 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 06, 2023, 04:36:55 AMI haven't produced any art for almost a year. I have experienced low physical and emotional energy caused by the hormone therapy which was part of my prostate cancer treatment. This painting is not like my usual sombre non-figurative paintings, since I did it at the request of someone close to me, who has helped me through some difficult times. She wanted something floral, cheerful, and sunny. I produced what is frankly a pastiche—something I would not do for anyone else, so don't judge me too harshly! At least she is really happy with it.

The flowers are fairly realistic, but the background of leaves is more abstract. Oil paint. Size: 800mm x 800m.

(https://i.imgur.com/9c3jLeP.jpg)

I'd say that it's anything but passe.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 06, 2023, 04:52:46 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on May 06, 2023, 04:48:47 AMI'd say that it's anything but passe.

Thanks. Not passé, but definitely a pastiche.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on May 06, 2023, 08:03:25 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 06, 2023, 04:36:55 AMI haven't produced any art for almost a year. I have experienced low physical and emotional energy caused by the hormone therapy which was part of my prostate cancer treatment. This painting is not like my usual sombre non-figurative paintings, since I did it at the request of someone close to me, who has helped me through some difficult times. She wanted something floral, cheerful, and sunny. I produced what is frankly a pastiche—something I would not do for anyone else, so don't judge me too harshly! At least she is really happy with it.

The flowers are fairly realistic, but the background of leaves is more abstract. Oil paint. Size: 800mm x 800m.

(https://i.imgur.com/9c3jLeP.jpg)

It's not in your usual style that's for sure. Love it :)
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 06, 2023, 09:45:36 AM
Thank you Tank. I wouldn't do it for many other people in the world.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 02:52:24 PM
That's quite nice, Hermes! I haven't carved anything in a year, and it took me 6 months to get around to running the wiring for my new table saw. I'm using it, and when I get some space cleated out, I'll get some carving done.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: billy rubin on May 06, 2023, 03:07:09 PM
i had to look "pastiche" up.

is that necessarilly a bad thing?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 06, 2023, 05:28:34 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 06, 2023, 03:07:09 PMi had to look "pastiche" up.

is that necessarilly a bad thing?

In an absolute sense, no. But an artist's ego comes into play here, because producing a pastiche is somehow seen as a betrayal of one's own style.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 06, 2023, 05:35:36 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 02:52:24 PMThat's quite nice, Hermes! I haven't carved anything in a year, and it took me 6 months to get around to running the wiring for my new table saw. I'm using it, and when I get some space cleated out, I'll get some carving done.

Thank you! I know what you mean. Even at the best of times I have to push myself to start doing things. I guess my inborn laziness can be blamed, along with the recent hormone treatment.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Icarus on May 06, 2023, 05:58:23 PM
Periods of inactivity might be going around in the HAF community.  I too have not done much of anything in my workshop. I do have plans to build some things but have not yet mustered the energy to commence.

Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 06:30:20 PM
In my case part of it stems from being anemic. My marrow is making too much of one or more kinds of cells, which are crowding out the red blood cell makers.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 06, 2023, 06:59:24 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 06:30:20 PMIn my case part of it stems from being anemic. My marrow is making too much of one or more kinds of cells, which are crowding out the red blood cell makers.

Do you take any medication for that condition? In my case, I find that if I can just overcome the initial activation energy hump I gather momentum as I work. Then, during the making process the ideas for new things just keep multiplying in my head.


Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 09:47:58 PM
I don't know of any medications for it. I'll ask the doctor, next time. Maybe red blood cells from a donor?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MarcusA on May 11, 2023, 11:44:14 PM
I do burnouts
on paper. I do poems,
rather bad poems.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MarcusA on May 20, 2023, 02:16:27 AM
Personal art is never eventually private.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MarcusA on May 20, 2023, 06:53:51 AM
What is hidden art but a hidden  heart.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: billy rubin on May 20, 2023, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 06:30:20 PMIn my case part of it stems from being anemic. My marrow is making too much of one or more kinds of cells, which are crowding out the red blood cell makers.

so you have excess leukocyte production?

anaemic or not, does this increase your resistence to infection?
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MarcusA on May 20, 2023, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 20, 2023, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 06:30:20 PMIn my case part of it stems from being anemic. My marrow is making too much of one or more kinds of cells, which are crowding out the red blood cell makers.

so you have excess leukocyte production?

anaemic or not, does this increase your resistence to infection?

Fuck, I'm ill but I don't go on about it.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 20, 2023, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 20, 2023, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 06:30:20 PMIn my case part of it stems from being anemic. My marrow is making too much of one or more kinds of cells, which are crowding out the red blood cell makers.

so you have excess leukocyte production?

anaemic or not, does this increase your resistence to infection?

I don't know, except that one of the symptoms of an advanced state is lowered resistance to infection. Not there, yet. It may be years before that happens.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 20, 2023, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on May 20, 2023, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 20, 2023, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 06:30:20 PMIn my case part of it stems from being anemic. My marrow is making too much of one or more kinds of cells, which are crowding out the red blood cell makers.

so you have excess leukocyte production?

anaemic or not, does this increase your resistence to infection?

Fuck, I'm ill but I don't go on about it.

You just bang on about everything else.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MarcusA on May 20, 2023, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 20, 2023, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on May 20, 2023, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 20, 2023, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 06:30:20 PMIn my case part of it stems from being anemic. My marrow is making too much of one or more kinds of cells, which are crowding out the red blood cell makers.

so you have excess leukocyte production?

anaemic or not, does this increase your resistence to infection?

Fuck, I'm ill but I don't go on about it.

You just bang on about everything else.

What else is there to do? Talking about your illness doesn't help.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: billy rubin on May 20, 2023, 09:51:27 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 20, 2023, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 20, 2023, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 06:30:20 PMIn my case part of it stems from being anemic. My marrow is making too much of one or more kinds of cells, which are crowding out the red blood cell makers.

so you have excess leukocyte production?

anaemic or not, does this increase your resistence to infection?

I don't know, except that one of the symptoms of an advanced state is lowered resistance to infection. Not there, yet. It may be years before that happens.

interesting. i would have thought the opposite. depends on what the leukocytes are, i guess. im immediately out of my depth on anything microbiology.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MarcusA on May 21, 2023, 12:14:52 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 20, 2023, 09:51:27 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 20, 2023, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 20, 2023, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 06:30:20 PMIn my case part of it stems from being anemic. My marrow is making too much of one or more kinds of cells, which are crowding out the red blood cell makers.

so you have excess leukocyte production?

anaemic or not, does this increase your resistence to infection?

I don't know, except that one of the symptoms of an advanced state is lowered resistance to infection. Not there, yet. It may be years before that happens.

interesting. i would have thought the opposite. depends on what the leukocytes are, i guess. im immediately out of my depth on anything microbiology.

You're out of your depth because neither of you is a doctor.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: The Magic Pudding. on May 21, 2023, 02:39:30 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 20, 2023, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on May 20, 2023, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 20, 2023, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 06:30:20 PMIn my case part of it stems from being anemic. My marrow is making too much of one or more kinds of cells, which are crowding out the red blood cell makers.

so you have excess leukocyte production?

anaemic or not, does this increase your resistence to infection?

Fuck, I'm ill but I don't go on about it.

You just bang on about everything else.

Talk of illness can become tedious but it isn't hard to ignore, and that is the polite thing to do.
On the other hand a constant flow of verbal diarrhoea is harder to ignore entirely. 
A crappy flow of pseudo wisdom I doubt passes the Turing test, but I'm not really paying attention.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 21, 2023, 04:00:23 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding. on May 21, 2023, 02:39:30 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 20, 2023, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on May 20, 2023, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 20, 2023, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 06:30:20 PMIn my case part of it stems from being anemic. My marrow is making too much of one or more kinds of cells, which are crowding out the red blood cell makers.

so you have excess leukocyte production?

anaemic or not, does this increase your resistence to infection?

Fuck, I'm ill but I don't go on about it.

You just bang on about everything else.

Talk of illness can become tedious but it isn't hard to ignore, and that is the polite thing to do.
On the other hand a constant flow of verbal diarrhoea is harder to ignore entirely. 
A crappy flow of pseudo wisdom I doubt passes the Turing test, but I'm not really paying attention.


:lol:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MarcusA on May 21, 2023, 04:39:36 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding. on May 21, 2023, 02:39:30 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 20, 2023, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on May 20, 2023, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 20, 2023, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 06:30:20 PMIn my case part of it stems from being anemic. My marrow is making too much of one or more kinds of cells, which are crowding out the red blood cell makers.

so you have excess leukocyte production?

anaemic or not, does this increase your resistence to infection?

Fuck, I'm ill but I don't go on about it.

You just bang on about everything else.

Talk of illness can become tedious but it isn't hard to ignore, and that is the polite thing to do.
On the other hand a constant flow of verbal diarrhoea is harder to ignore entirely. 
A crappy flow of pseudo wisdom I doubt passes the Turing test, but I'm not really paying attention.


Put your pud away, Pudding.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: hermes2015 on May 21, 2023, 05:39:48 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding. on May 21, 2023, 02:39:30 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 20, 2023, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on May 20, 2023, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on May 20, 2023, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 06, 2023, 06:30:20 PMIn my case part of it stems from being anemic. My marrow is making too much of one or more kinds of cells, which are crowding out the red blood cell makers.

so you have excess leukocyte production?

anaemic or not, does this increase your resistence to infection?

Fuck, I'm ill but I don't go on about it.

You just bang on about everything else.

Talk of illness can become tedious but it isn't hard to ignore, and that is the polite thing to do.
On the other hand a constant flow of verbal diarrhoea is harder to ignore entirely. 
A crappy flow of pseudo wisdom I doubt passes the Turing test, but I'm not really paying attention.


:thumbsup2:
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MarcusA on May 22, 2023, 03:31:48 AM
I did a poem today. Nothing new, just a rehashing.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MarcusA on May 23, 2023, 12:05:45 AM
The Dialogic at speed -
full of sound and fury,
the hurly-burly's done.

No art to show, show us yourself.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MarcusA on May 23, 2023, 03:46:49 AM
Illness is no making of your own.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MarcusA on May 23, 2023, 03:54:30 AM
This thread should be in the Art section.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: MarcusA on May 25, 2023, 04:24:33 AM
Acting is an art as is gardening. The materialisation of things is magic.
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Post by: MarcusA on May 27, 2023, 05:01:36 AM
Art is whatever you do best.
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Post by: MarcusA on May 29, 2023, 12:48:37 AM
Art is best done, not explained.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 07, 2023, 05:04:55 AM
I have nothing better to
do than write haiku.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 08, 2023, 01:13:28 AM
Realpolitik

Every child is precious.
I love Christmas.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 08, 2023, 01:39:16 AM
Get Real

The medicinal
benefits of marijuana
are well-known.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 08, 2023, 05:11:41 PM
Christ, there must be some art out there somewhere.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 09, 2023, 09:01:24 PM
Art for art's sake is only for art that doesn't sell.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 09, 2023, 09:15:45 PM
Making art is a pleasant enough routine.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 10, 2023, 02:56:04 AM
Persuasion is an art that I have never quite grasped.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 13, 2023, 12:56:05 AM
Artistry is simply saying yes to something.
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Post by: The Magic Pudding. on June 14, 2023, 01:06:49 PM
Bullshiting is delivering the words the world needs at that moment.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 14, 2023, 08:52:51 PM
Time to skedaddle, time to die.
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Post by: hermes2015 on June 15, 2023, 04:25:54 AM
A 300mm diameter split concrete sphere with stainless steel elements. Although the concrete shell is hollow and the walls are only 15mm thick, the piece weighs in at 13kg.

(https://i.imgur.com/WAEKQn0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uKthR9a.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OK3cUbN.jpg)
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Post by: Tank on June 15, 2023, 10:07:22 AM
Very Death Star. A lovely juxtaposition of shape, line, texture and lack of colour.
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Post by: hermes2015 on June 15, 2023, 12:38:49 PM
Thank you, Tank. One of the goals was to show the contrast between shiny stainless steel and raw, brutal concrete.
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Post by: Tank on June 15, 2023, 01:05:51 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on June 15, 2023, 12:38:49 PMThank you, Tank. One of the goals was to show the contrast between shiny stainless steel and raw, brutal concrete.

Goal achieved.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 15, 2023, 10:54:33 PM
Does Brutalism function as art?
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Post by: billy rubin on June 15, 2023, 11:28:10 PM
why did you make it round, and not some other shspe?

i stil cant figure out creativity
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Post by: MarcusA on June 15, 2023, 11:35:42 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on June 15, 2023, 11:28:10 PMwhy did you make it round, and not some other shspe?

i stil cant figure out creativity

It's a concrete bubble, billy.
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Post by: billy rubin on June 16, 2023, 02:35:15 AM
i dont understand art and creativity. its two parts. motivation and choice of expressio n.

im including materials in with expression.

why do people create? what attacts them to some particular medium?

why a haiku and not concrete and vise versa
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Post by: MarcusA on June 16, 2023, 03:01:39 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on June 16, 2023, 02:35:15 AMi dont understand art and creativity. its two parts. motivation and choice of expressio n.

im including materials in with expression.

why do people create? what attacts them to some particular medium?

why a haiku and not concrete and vise versa

I write haiku poems and concrete poems of very few words - whatever gets my rocks off at the time - as long as the thought behind them is not a bubble, as long as they are understood.
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Post by: hermes2015 on June 16, 2023, 04:05:52 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on June 15, 2023, 10:54:33 PMDoes Brutalism function as art?

Yes, it's been around for a long time. The movement or style is usually called by the French name Art Brut. Here is an in-depth discussion.

https://www.theartstory.org/movement/art-brut-and-outsider-art/ (https://www.theartstory.org/movement/art-brut-and-outsider-art/)
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Post by: hermes2015 on June 16, 2023, 04:10:17 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on June 15, 2023, 11:28:10 PMwhy did you make it round, and not some other shspe?

i stil cant figure out creativity

I don't know, I guess because it looked right to me in this piece. If I could articulate it, I suppose I could have written a poem. I am, in fact thinking of other pieces where perhaps vertical slabs are linked by filaments.
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Post by: hermes2015 on June 16, 2023, 04:13:25 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on June 16, 2023, 02:35:15 AMi dont understand art and creativity. its two parts. motivation and choice of expressio n.

im including materials in with expression.

why do people create? what attacts them to some particular medium?

why a haiku and not concrete and vise versa

Questions that have been asked for hundreds of years. I suspect many a dissertation has been written on these topics. In the meantime some of us just make things that satisfy us, and perhaps a few viewers.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 16, 2023, 04:32:11 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on June 16, 2023, 04:05:52 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on June 15, 2023, 10:54:33 PMDoes Brutalism function as art?

Yes, it's been around for a long time. The movement or style is usually called by the French name Art Brut. Here is an in-depth discussion.

https://www.theartstory.org/movement/art-brut-and-outsider-art/ (https://www.theartstory.org/movement/art-brut-and-outsider-art/)

Understood. I'll leave you in peace.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 16, 2023, 04:35:08 AM
Naive art is simply not all-knowing.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 16, 2023, 04:39:03 AM
A little education goes a long way.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 18, 2023, 09:30:05 PM
Art is beautiful, even when ugly.
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Post by: No one on June 18, 2023, 10:49:53 PM
Very beholder of you.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 19, 2023, 09:49:11 AM
Quote from: No one on June 18, 2023, 10:49:53 PMVery beholder of you.

Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.
- Kinky Friedman
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Post by: No one on June 19, 2023, 01:00:30 PM
Unless there are vision alements involved, I exclaim stoutly!
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Post by: Dark Lightning on June 19, 2023, 08:49:37 PM
Nice brutal sphere, Hermes!

I made a couple of boxes recently, just finished (literally) one this morning. They cover nosewipe boxes. Just some scraps and free wood.

Light single-colored one is red oak. The multicolored one is teak, sycamore, and African ebony. Both are finished with one coat of teak oil.

(https://i.imgur.com/kd7bdeE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VBOrYfW.jpg)
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Post by: Tank on June 19, 2023, 09:57:20 PM
 :love:  :love:  :love:  :love:
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Post by: Anne D. on June 19, 2023, 11:59:56 PM
Gorgeous, DL.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 20, 2023, 12:04:32 AM
Art is always completely useless.
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Post by: Dark Lightning on June 20, 2023, 12:24:14 AM
Thanks, Tank and Anne D! I sold my old portable table saw and got a seriously heavy duty table saw. It will probably outlive me. It is more precisely adjustable and is twice the horsepower. The old saw was one turn from blade-below-the-table to all the way up, and truly a pain to adjust for depth of cut. Plus, I now have more surface for building up projects after I cut out the components. Should have bought this saw the first time.
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Post by: hermes2015 on June 20, 2023, 03:45:30 AM
Thank you DL. I admire the skill that went into making your boxes. Are there pegs in the joints, or just glue?
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Post by: Dark Lightning on June 20, 2023, 04:11:51 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on June 20, 2023, 03:45:30 AMThank you DL. I admire the skill that went into making your boxes. Are there pegs in the joints, or just glue?

Just glue. It's amazing how strong glue joints are. And thank you! I've tried box joints and dovetail joints in the past, but they are just too tedious. The red oak one has mitered corners for the body, but the one with the teak is simple butt joints everywhere. I did consider "slips" on the oak box, which are pieces of wood glued into the mitered corners for strength. I have a caddy/valet that I made decades ago out of 1/4" red oak that has yet to break. Of course, it just sits there and has things like keys and spectacles put into it; it's not like it has to be structural.
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Post by: hermes2015 on June 20, 2023, 04:33:11 AM
Thank for explaining. My woodworking skills are close to zero: glued and screwed butt joints are my level. I am a bit better with concrete, where I usually embed stainless steel mesh at critical points as reinforcement.
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Post by: Dark Lightning on June 20, 2023, 04:42:26 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on June 20, 2023, 04:33:11 AMThank for explaining. My woodworking skills are close to zero: glued and screwed butt joints are my level. I am a bit better with concrete, where I usually embed stainless steel mesh at critical points as reinforcement.

To each, their own element! FWIW, if your wood project isn't severely stressed, the glue joint is good enough. A proper glue joint has been been proven to be as strong as the wood that it attaches, in general. Of course, screws add a lot of strength. My tool chests have corner braces that reinforce the glued joints. Probably not necessary, given that the tools weight next to nothing compared to the tools that machinists put in those chests. I put carving tools in them and those are really light in comparison to all the metal-centric tools.
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Post by: Tank on June 20, 2023, 10:36:02 AM
Modern wood glues often create a joint stronger than the wood around them.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 22, 2023, 02:23:02 AM
Art is 99 per cent craftmanship and 1 per cent sweat.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 22, 2023, 05:06:16 PM
The artist is crafty like a fox.
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Post by: MarcusA on June 23, 2023, 06:26:17 AM
Art is bothersome.
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Post by: MarcusA on July 07, 2023, 09:56:09 AM
Art cannot escape its own beauty.
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Post by: MarcusA on July 10, 2023, 05:41:56 AM
I am persuaded by criticism to think highly of myself.
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Post by: No one on July 10, 2023, 08:20:55 AM
But you're so humble.
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Post by: MarcusA on July 10, 2023, 08:23:19 AM
Quote from: No one on July 10, 2023, 08:20:55 AMBut you're so humble.

I am.
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Post by: MarcusA on July 14, 2023, 08:55:02 PM
I like home cooking. Any pictures of the food that you have prepared yourself will be most welcome. Also, any pictures of your garden if you have one will be equally welcome.
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Post by: The Magic Pudding. on July 15, 2023, 12:07:28 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on July 14, 2023, 08:55:02 PMI like home cooking. Any pictures of the food that you have prepared yourself will be most welcome. Also, any pictures of your garden if you have one will be equally welcome.

Have you posted a picture yet, one of your own?
Icarus asked you about your location, did you answer him?
For people who look at maps, it's a place.
"Western Australia (Australia) is 71% larger than Alaska (USA)."
Fk football in all its forms, I'd like to hear about the bottom bit of WA.
 
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Post by: MarcusA on July 16, 2023, 06:55:04 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding. on July 15, 2023, 12:07:28 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on July 14, 2023, 08:55:02 PMI like home cooking. Any pictures of the food that you have prepared yourself will be most welcome. Also, any pictures of your garden if you have one will be equally welcome.

Have you posted a picture yet, one of your own?
Icarus asked you about your location, did you answer him?
For people who look at maps, it's a place.
"Western Australia (Australia) is 71% larger than Alaska (USA)."
Fk football in all its forms, I'd like to hear about the bottom bit of WA.
 

I have no devices other than a mobile phone: my hands are too unsteady for selfies.
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Post by: MarcusA on July 25, 2023, 09:21:18 PM
An eye for a picture takes training.
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Post by: billy rubin on July 26, 2023, 01:07:37 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on July 14, 2023, 08:55:02 PMI like home cooking. Any pictures of the food that you have prepared yourself will be most welcome. Also, any pictures of your garden if you have one will be equally welcome.

id love to have a garden. i dont eat meat, and plants are vastly more attractive t me anyway. but i simply dont have the time tend one. im up at 0500, driving to work at 0512, driving out for the day in my truck at 0615, retuning like today at 1700, then home by 1800 and crashing at 2000.

currently my company also has me work alternate saturdays, so there isnt time to do shit.
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Post by: MarcusA on July 31, 2023, 02:27:33 AM
The art of war is putting your arse on the line.
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Post by: Tank on July 31, 2023, 11:22:58 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on July 31, 2023, 02:27:33 AMThe art of war is putting your arse on the line.

The art of war is putting somebody else's arse on the line and then profiting from their death.
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Post by: MarcusA on August 02, 2023, 09:46:21 PM
We are all at war in our own way.
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Post by: MarcusA on August 02, 2023, 11:25:18 PM
Art is useless 'til stopping the steady progress of the boors from eating the furniture.
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Post by: MarcusA on August 08, 2023, 05:25:46 AM
Art is whatever takes your fancy.
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Post by: MarcusA on August 09, 2023, 10:49:26 PM
Sketches in my mind
remain sketches on paper.
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Post by: MarcusA on August 10, 2023, 06:50:09 AM
It is crazy to produce art. Art is worthless until someone puts a price on it.
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Post by: Tank on August 11, 2023, 04:21:57 AM
Art is a production of value to the person who produces it. Any price put on the work is meaningless to the artist.
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Post by: MarcusA on August 11, 2023, 04:24:40 AM
Art is meaningless, without value, unless critiqued.
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Post by: Tank on August 11, 2023, 04:31:47 AM
Not to the person who produces it. External critique of art is meaningless as the person critiquing the work is not a mind reader and therefore judging from a state of ignorance. Their comments can therefore be dismissed as inconsequential waffle. Art is the intellectual, physical and emotion production of the artist and is created for nobody other than the artist.   
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Post by: MarcusA on August 11, 2023, 04:45:49 AM
No art is private in the long run.
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Post by: Tank on August 11, 2023, 03:44:51 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on August 11, 2023, 04:45:49 AMNo art is private in the long run.

How would you know? And how could that possibly be true? You just stated the White Blackbird fallacy. You can't know or rationally state that all Blackbirds are black. You have not seen all blackbirds, nobody has, because Black birds have existed for possibly millions of years. You have not met all artists nor seen their work. And if they chose to keep their work private you would never know simply because they kept it private.
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Post by: MarcusA on August 11, 2023, 06:31:04 PM
Public opinion trumps private opinion.
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Post by: Tank on August 11, 2023, 06:49:40 PM
Fine so your opinion is meaningless.
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Post by: MarcusA on August 11, 2023, 06:53:38 PM
And so is yours.
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Post by: billy rubin on August 11, 2023, 11:32:57 PM
all blackbirds are black.

have to be, else they couldnt be black birds.
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Post by: Tank on August 12, 2023, 12:24:54 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on August 11, 2023, 11:32:57 PMall blackbirds are black.

have to be, else they couldnt be black birds.

What about an albino Blackbird? Does it cease to be a Blackbird because it is white?
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Post by: MarcusA on August 12, 2023, 12:37:05 AM
All generalisations are false, including this one. - Mark Twain
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Post by: MarcusA on August 12, 2023, 12:47:09 AM
If it helps you out, Tank, I may have committed the Black Swan fallacy.
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Post by: Dark Lightning on August 12, 2023, 02:21:54 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 12, 2023, 12:24:54 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on August 11, 2023, 11:32:57 PMall blackbirds are black.

have to be, else they couldnt be black birds.

What about an albino Blackbird? Does it cease to be a Blackbird because it is white?

Albino blackbirds (https://www.google.com/search?q=albino+blackbird&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS973US973&oq=albino+blackbird&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512l2j0i22i30l4j0i390i650.6686j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
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Post by: billy rubin on August 12, 2023, 03:49:00 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 12, 2023, 12:24:54 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on August 11, 2023, 11:32:57 PMall blackbirds are black.

have to be, else they couldnt be black birds.

What about an albino Blackbird? Does it cease to be a Blackbird because it is white?

i was hoping you wouldnt bring that up
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Post by: Tank on August 12, 2023, 04:08:09 AM
LOL :)
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Post by: hermes2015 on September 24, 2023, 05:16:37 AM
I have, at long last, started making the concrete Bird Feeder sculpture. This is the piece that required me to make the aluminium tray I showed some time ago.

Aluminium Tray (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,16855.msg429634.html#msg429634)

This is my design, for which I used the Poser model Michael:

(https://i.imgur.com/gHCxHX7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/msNMhvN.jpg)

The concrete sculpture will be slightly bigger than life size and will consist of about 50% realistic and 50% abstract elements. Here are renderings of what it will look like:

(https://i.imgur.com/lTu1xw9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DBA7PEq.jpg)

I have done the right torso element, shown here in pale gold:

(https://i.imgur.com/OJ6ukyW.jpg)

As usual, I am using rapid set high strength concrete that starts setting hard in 20 minutes, so there is no room for error or hesitation once the pour is started. This photo shows the concrete cast and on the left the sacrificial mould I used to cast it.

(https://i.imgur.com/v9Ak7mC.jpg)

The embedded 30 mm stainless steel washers can be seen as well. I will use stainless steel M10 nuts and 10 mm stainless threaded rods that run through the washers to join the elements. This element weighs just under 4 kg.
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Post by: Tank on September 24, 2023, 11:21:49 AM
Amazing!
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Post by: hermes2015 on September 24, 2023, 12:49:57 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 24, 2023, 11:21:49 AMAmazing!

:)
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Post by: Tank on September 24, 2023, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on September 24, 2023, 12:49:57 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 24, 2023, 11:21:49 AMAmazing!

:)

Where will you display him?
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Post by: hermes2015 on September 24, 2023, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 24, 2023, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on September 24, 2023, 12:49:57 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 24, 2023, 11:21:49 AMAmazing!

:)

Where will you display him?


My daughter commissioned the piece, so it will be installed in her garden in Morningside, Sandton, near the swimming pool. That's where the more abstract reclining nude sculpture is I made about 2 years ago.
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Post by: Tank on September 24, 2023, 01:50:22 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on September 24, 2023, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 24, 2023, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on September 24, 2023, 12:49:57 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 24, 2023, 11:21:49 AMAmazing!

:)

Where will you display him?


My daughter commissioned the piece, so it will be installed in her garden in Morningside, Sandton, near the swimming pool. That's where the more abstract reclining nude sculpture is I made about 2 years ago.

 :thumbsup:
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Post by: hermes2015 on November 16, 2023, 04:41:45 AM
Here is a photo of the whole arm and shoulder. The arm is hollow, with orthopaedic plates inside. The weight is 11 kg. The arm is "realistic" and the hand is abstract.

(https://i.imgur.com/G1Uty9k.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JMAKgf0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ExvipEp.jpg)

The right leg is half realistic and half abstract. Here is the mould for the realistic half. I've included a plain white credit card as a size reference.

(https://i.imgur.com/33RjgGa.jpg)

Mould lined with 15mm thick concrete.

(https://i.imgur.com/SYXvEyc.jpg)

Demoulded right leg, showing the colours that develop when the concrete cures to give an effect I like very much. I am inspired by ancient Greek sculptures, which I think the concrete textures show effectively.

(https://i.imgur.com/OAoyq3L.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HNL5vey.jpg)

This part of the leg weighs 10 kg.
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Post by: Recusant on November 16, 2023, 07:27:14 AM
Splendid to see the work in progress. Thank you very much for posting the images, hermes2015.  :thumb:
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Post by: hermes2015 on November 16, 2023, 07:43:42 AM
Quote from: Recusant on November 16, 2023, 07:27:14 AMSplendid to see the work in progress. Thank you very much for posting the images, hermes2015.  :thumb:

 :thumbsup2:
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Post by: Tank on November 16, 2023, 09:59:30 AM
It is such a privilege to see your work as it progresses. Thank you so much for sharing.
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Post by: hermes2015 on November 16, 2023, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: Tank on November 16, 2023, 09:59:30 AMIt is such a privilege to see your work as it progresses. Thank you so much for sharing.

Thank you Tank. It is probably my most ambitious project to date and a lot of work, but I am enjoying solving the problems on the fly.
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Post by: Dark Lightning on November 16, 2023, 02:14:18 PM
Coming along nicely, Hermes!
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Post by: hermes2015 on November 16, 2023, 03:00:23 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on November 16, 2023, 02:14:18 PMComing along nicely, Hermes!

:boaterhat:
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Post by: billy rubin on November 17, 2023, 11:36:22 PM
so much of your stuff is concrete.

why?

what attracted you to concrete, as opposed to plaster of paris, or a plastic resin with a surface treatments?

have you always been doing it?

theres a story in here.
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Post by: hermes2015 on November 18, 2023, 03:37:46 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on November 17, 2023, 11:36:22 PMso much of your stuff is concrete.

why?

what attracted you to concrete, as opposed to plaster of paris, or a plastic resin with a surface treatments?

have you always been doing it?

theres a story in here.

Most of your questions are easy to answer. Yes, there is a story! I had a sudden urge to do ceramics during my PhD research days. It became a bit of an obsession, to the point that I started taking ceramics as seriously as my chemistry. I was accepted as a student to study ceramic sculpture with Eduardo Paolozzi at the Central School in London, but life had other plans! There is a story there as well, but for another time. So, I stayed in chemistry and did post-doctoral research and lectured in organic chemistry at Chelsea College, University of London, instead. During those and later years I kept on doing ceramics, but was always at the mercy of ceramics studios with their varying kiln capacities. As I became increasingly interested in making large pieces, I hit on concrete as a more direct and faster medium that did not require kilns big enough to accommodate my bigger and bigger ideas.

Concrete is more durable than plaster or resin in outdoor installations. I love the natural textures and colours of things like corroded metal and old concrete, as well as the contrast between grungy surfaces and shiny, clean ones. That is why I leave my pieces unfinished so that interesting surfaces develop as the material cures and weathers. That is also a reason I like to incorporate polished stainless steel elements in some pieces.

Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: billy rubin on November 18, 2023, 09:53:05 PM
its interesting that you view your sculptures as dynamic, in that you expect them to change over time without input from you beyond setting up the starting point. its also an acknowledgement that in the end, everything we create has a finite life span, and sooner or later will reach the end.

ive always been interested in the history of concrete, who first used it and what their techniques were. it goes back a very long time.
Title: Re: The Art and things we've made thread...
Post by: Tank on November 19, 2023, 08:53:17 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on November 18, 2023, 09:53:05 PMits interesting that you view your sculptures as dynamic, in that you expect them to change over time without input from you beyond setting up the starting point. its also an acknowledgement that in the end, everything we create has a finite life span, and sooner or later will reach the end.

ive always been interested in the history of concrete, who first used it and what their techniques were. it goes back a very long time.

It's interesting to walk around Rome and see the ancient concrete they made and used.