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How Christians lied to me about life without Christianity
« on: November 20, 2017, 03:26:36 AM »
Found this on FB, but it doesn't belong on Tank's nutty theists on FB post, and since we've a new and newly deconverted member,  I'm putting it here:

How Christians lied to me about life without Christianity

I've seen the question"how can atheists bear the cold, sterile world of non-belief?" many times and been asked it a few times.  I've never known how to explain to someone with such a different point of view from mine that the world actually got so much bigger and brighter after I gave up trying to force supernatural beliefs on myself.  Or that it suddenly and finally made sense, which was worth more than any number of talking snakes and angels dancing on pinheads to me.

This article doesn't give us a way of explaining that (I'm not sure there is one) but I think it does do an excellent job of explaining the "fundagelical " mindset that could actually find the real world cold and sterile.
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Re: How Christians lied to me about life without Christianity
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2017, 04:05:05 AM »
BooksCatsEtc: Very good article! Witty, humorous and most of all it resonates with my previous theistic mindset.

The thing that I don't miss the most is the unbridled guilt. Guilt for Adams sin, guilt for my own sins. It would drive me into great depressions. Religion for me was truly a drug. Extreme highs and lows. Since I left the constraints of theism  my moods have stabilized, my worldview has expanded and appreciation for this world and it's inhabitants have grown exponentially.

I live in the here and now, not in some magical fantasy land where extreme religious paranoia always lurks. Things just make more sense now. I don't miss it, and the only regret that I have is the ridiculous amount of time and energy that was wasted pursuing imaginary beings that have imaginary powers that live in imaginary places.

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Re: How Christians lied to me about life without Christianity
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2017, 06:40:07 AM »
Hooch

Your experiences of post theistic calm is very common. I was never a believer but I have read many accounts from people who were and they often express similar feelings. 
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Re: How Christians lied to me about life without Christianity
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2017, 09:56:20 AM »
Hooch

Your experiences of post theistic calm is very common. I was never a believer but I have read many accounts from people who were and they often express similar feelings.

Reminds me of a cartoon I can't find -- a bunch of people are walking along huddling under umbrellas, with the rain falling on them from inside the umbrella.  One guy throws his umbrella away and voila -- the day is full of sunshine.  I believe the caption is "Life without Religion".
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Re: How Christians lied to me about life without Christianity
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2017, 10:04:52 AM »
The thing that I don't miss the most is the unbridled guilt. Guilt for Adams sin, guilt for my own sins.

I never felt any guilt, altho I was aware that I was supposed to.  It was one of the many things that confused me about what I was told and that's what made me craziest -- nothing fit the way I was told it did.  I was also told everything would make sense to me eventually, but things got more confusing with time, not less.  When I learned the term "gaslighting" it fit my experience with religion perfectly.
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Re: How Christians lied to me about life without Christianity
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2017, 05:18:19 AM »
The thing that I don't miss the most is the unbridled guilt. Guilt for Adams sin, guilt for my own sins. It would drive me into great depressions. Religion for me was truly a drug. Extreme highs and lows. Since I left the constraints of theism  my moods have stabilized, my worldview has expanded and appreciation for this world and it's inhabitants have grown exponentially.

I live in the here and now, not in some magical fantasy land where extreme religious paranoia always lurks. Things just make more sense now. I don't miss it, and the only regret that I have is the ridiculous amount of time and energy that was wasted pursuing imaginary beings that have imaginary powers that live in imaginary places.


Man, I grew up extremely religious and could not say this better.
I think of the wasted years and it damn near makes me want to cry.

The one consolation I have is that my daughter will not be subjected to the kind of life I had growing up.  She will have her battles to fight, but she will never question her own worth because of a ever watching deity.  She will never lie in bed at night and fear a rapture that she will miss because of a standard set so high to be unattainable.  She will never be bound by rules written by men who's intent is to subjugate women and keep them beneath men.

That is the main thing that gives me peace.  I taught her that there were no monsters under her bed.  I didn't create an invisible one in the sky that she can never escape from.
The certainty with which I know another man's religion is folly makes me suspect my own is also - Mark Twain

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Today we safely brought a man back from outer space, while you shot a child in the face for wanting to go to school.
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Re: How Christians lied to me about life without Christianity
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2017, 02:29:24 PM »
Skeptic, YES. Everything you said. (You too, Hooch)
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Re: How Christians lied to me about life without Christianity
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2017, 03:18:20 PM »
How did I miss this thread?  :scratch:

Very interesting.  :bigspecs:
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Re: How Christians lied to me about life without Christianity
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2017, 10:01:17 AM »
We want the truth.  Whether or not one finds that truth unpleasant is a side-issue.

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Re: How Christians lied to me about life without Christianity
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2017, 10:12:04 AM »
We want the truth.  Whether or not one finds that truth unpleasant is a side-issue.

Correct.
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Re: How Christians lied to me about life without Christianity
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2017, 05:07:39 AM »
We want the truth.  Whether or not one finds that truth unpleasant is a side-issue.

Not me, I prefer fake news. That is why I watch CNN ;).
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