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Title: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 19, 2015, 03:48:23 AM
I need to dammit, and obviously doing so without a spoiler warning isn't cool. So if you weren't quick enough to catch the title or didn't believe me for some reason, stop reading now.

I'm grieving the loss of my favorite childhood anti-hero, and seriously, just ouch. Not that it's really surprising given how vocal Ford has been about loathing Solo, but still. Ouch.

My major stumbling point was when Kylo Ren took his mask off and revealed he's basically JP from Grandma's Boy, and I nearly burst out laughing hysterically.

The part of it all that's really fucking with my head is the loss of the EU canon I've been immersed in since I was 10 or so. Especially because it's off but not quite. Like Han and Leia having a single son named Ben when in EU Luke and Mara Jade have a single son named Ben.

That being said, I was pleased with it overall. It's not Lucas, but it is Star Wars. I was so worried going in because of the hype around the prequels, which were just awful. But this actually was good.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Firebird on December 19, 2015, 07:15:46 AM
Just saw it. Sadly, some asshole commenting on a YouTube video spoiled the big reveal (Ren being their son and killing Han) beforehand, but it was still a big punch in the gut. I am upset.

I read the EU quite a bit up until my mid-20s and was a little sad about losing it too, but the quality of the stories was very mixed,  and there was no way to deal another movie without clashing with them. So fine. The dialogue and characters were the best part of the movie. Really loved Rey, liked Finn and Poe. Kylo seemed like a whiny little kid, and maybe this was on purpose, but he felt like a weak character, as did the Supreme Leader. The plot was a bit thin too, felt like a remake of Episode IV between the desert planet, Droid with an important message, and big space station to blow up. And seriously, has the Resistance just continued fighting some version of the Empire for 30 years? Nothing changed??

But I'm  nitpicking. The look and feel was reminiscent of the original trilogy, the CGI was great but not overwhelming, and I'm happy.  I'm looking forward to what comes next.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Claireliontamer on December 19, 2015, 09:05:03 AM
Dammit should not have viewed by recent posts!!!!!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Crow on December 19, 2015, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: Claireliontamer on December 19, 2015, 09:05:03 AM
Dammit should not have viewed by recent posts!!!!!

Hahaha, I saw the thread title and knew a bunch of people were going to get stung by the recent posts option.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 19, 2015, 03:02:15 PM
Ugh, is there truly nowhere safe to talk? I want to be cool, but there's so much to chew over.

I get the impression this movie was mostly just set up for what is to come. There was so much ground to cover over 30 years, it would'be ended up another horrid Lucas prequel if Abrhams had tried to fit it all in. Some things just have to be for now and we'll get details later. Although I'm somewhat concerned I'm wrong, as Abrahms isn't exactly a plot-driven sort of guy. Excellent CGI and action scenes, with just enough plot to make it not entirely pointless.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Firebird on December 19, 2015, 05:01:25 PM
Quote from: Claireliontamer on December 19, 2015, 09:05:03 AM
Dammit should not have viewed by recent posts!!!!!
:(
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Crow on December 19, 2015, 05:36:38 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 19, 2015, 03:02:15 PM
Ugh, is there truly nowhere safe to talk? I want to be cool, but there's so much to chew over.

Just talk about it, if people don't want spoilers they can avoid the recent post thread for a while.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 22, 2015, 07:33:38 PM
Ok so, MOAR SPOILERS.

The current debate I keep running into is whether Rey is Luke's daughter. I hope to hell not... As mentioned, there's a lot of the OT being rehashed already. And really, there have been Jedi and south for millennia without Skywalkers. She doesn't -have- to be a Skywalker to be powerful.

I did think the desert planet was a bit much as far as story. If they were going to go there, I'd rather they have just gone back to Tatooine. Rather than creating a new planet we've never heard of before but is Tatooine in everything but name and everyone is somehow involved in.

The planet blowing up planet thing was poorly introduced and felt like a side story arc that was there just because. It was redundant but it does make sense that the Empire would continue rebuilding their weapon of choice, and after 30 years would be way better at it.

My friends and I have long theorized that realistically, the Empire would not have fallen, so I'm comfortable with the continued civil war.

I think Kylo Ren is supposed to be weak. Seriously watch Grandmas Boy and tell me he isn't the same character. He's obviously strong in showy stuff like telepathy, but his training seems to have been functionally neglected - which is exactly what Han said, he's being used for show and will ultimately be destroyed. And then Rey was able to kick his ass with no training at all, maybe 48 hours after first learning the force exists. I think this could make for interesting story, but I do miss having a strong, completely badass villain.

One of the things I liked about EU over the OT was the EUs use of grey area between the Jedi and Sith. Whereas the OT is black and white, good and evil. I think it's tough to tell which way they're going with the movie at this point...
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Firebird on December 23, 2015, 04:52:34 AM
 This helps to explain the current state of the universe (http://www.vox.com/2015/12/21/10634568/star-wars-the-force-awakens-spoilers-republic-first-order)
Rey's lineage will definitely be a plot point, whether she's a a Skywalker or Kenobi or something else. JJ has hinted as much. Hopefully it will resolve one of the most glaring plot holes, which is how a girl who's never used the Force before can already beat a trained Jedi/Sith and pull the mind trick on a stormtrooper (fun fact: that stormtrooper was Daniel Craig).

I agree about the star system being given destroyed as poorly introduced. That was 5 or 6 planets being obliterated and the impact felt that like something akin to bombing a town square (bad but not devastating) when it's really the equivalent of blowing up the entire US Eastern seaboard.

Some people online have theorized that even if the EU has been tossed, it's obviously influenced the story. Rey reminds some people of Jaina Solo, and Kylo of Jacen (though I never read that story arc, as I stopped after the New Jedi order). I'd like to think so, as the EU did introduce some great characters over time.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on December 23, 2015, 03:18:38 PM
Rey may have had training already. She looked well beyond the age that the Jedi started training youngsters when she was dropped off on the desert planet. With all the years alone on the planet dealing with extreme stress and and a shit life as a child, possibly she just focused on surviving and forgot about her training. Then years later, she is reminded of the force a few times, then it finally starts to click. At least I think that is a possibility.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Guardian85 on December 23, 2015, 06:47:13 PM
Another possibility is that Rey is the child of one or more of Skywalker's original apprentices. She might have been left on Jakku for her own safety when her parent(s) realized the threat of Kylo/Ben.
Would fit in well with Davin's theory, I think.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on December 25, 2015, 05:57:22 AM
It was OK. Better than the prequels, but not as good as 4,5,6.

There is no way Kylo is the son of Han and Leia. Just genetically impossible.

... And had it occurred to anyone how much better the universe would be of there were no Skywalker lineage in it? Mmmmmm?
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Firebird on December 25, 2015, 07:12:28 AM
Quote from: joeactor on December 25, 2015, 05:57:22 AM

There is no way Kylo is the son of Han and Leia. Just genetically impossible.


Why?
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tom62 on December 25, 2015, 01:07:36 PM
I've seen it yesterday and I liked it. Far better than the prequels, IV and VI.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on December 25, 2015, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: Firebird on December 25, 2015, 07:12:28 AM
Quote from: joeactor on December 25, 2015, 05:57:22 AM

There is no way Kylo is the son of Han and Leia. Just genetically impossible.


Why?

His hair, skin tone, build, facial features - None of it looks like he's their kid.
... unless your midiclorians change all that when you turn ;-)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Firebird on December 25, 2015, 05:23:34 PM
Quote from: joeactor on December 25, 2015, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: Firebird on December 25, 2015, 07:12:28 AM
Quote from: joeactor on December 25, 2015, 05:57:22 AM

There is no way Kylo is the son of Han and Leia. Just genetically impossible.


Why?

His hair, skin tone, build, facial features - None of it looks like he's their kid.
... unless your midiclorians change all that when you turn ;-)

Hey, if they can cause virgin impregnation , anything is possible  ;)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Siz on December 30, 2015, 05:22:30 PM
Just saw it today. Empire Strikes Back much?!

I'm really quite disappointed at the unoriginality of the story - taken directly from ESB. Characterisation was cursory. I liked the idea of the power struggle between Kylo and the (cartoonishly fascist) general (or whatever he was) but like so much in this movie was shallowly explored.

Kylo was weedy and useless and would never have attained his position on his own merits. Fin was straight out of any one of a million US action movies, as was Pau.

Rae was delightful and convincing. Her stupid little robot was inane. Han, hamish. Chewy played no other role than a comedy backboard.

The space action scenes were unimaginatively choreographed.

OK, let's find the positives - Rae, a standout character (and actress), Luke, brief, but cool. Leia, understated and nicely matriarchal, but I'd like to have seen her more 'at work'.
The yoda-replacement bar-owner was likeable but predictable. The sets were excellent.

Overall 5/10. Other than to find out where Rae came from and whether Luke can bring some storyline I'm not overly excited by the prospect of the next one...
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 31, 2015, 06:11:11 PM
The next movie will make or break this one. So much of this -could- just be set up, or it -could- be crappy stereotypes in a shallow, unimaginative action flick. It's up to Abrahms to pull through with background and character development in the sequel.

I totally agree Kylo looks nothing like Han or Leia though!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 03, 2016, 11:17:07 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 31, 2015, 06:11:11 PM
I totally agree Kylo looks nothing like Han or Leia though!

Me too.  :smilenod:

Maybe we find out that all of Kylo's rage stems from him finding out that he is adopted. A future installment could be called: Star Wars: The Cliché.  :cracked:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Asmodean on January 04, 2016, 07:42:36 AM
So... Was the latest movie any good? And by that, I mean good-good, not just expensive?

Should one have seen most of the previous movies to have a chance of getting the story?

I might see it one day, you see, so some recon is nice before I commit two hours of my life  8)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on January 04, 2016, 04:01:40 PM
I thought it was a pretty good movie. In terms of quality, I'd put it between V and VI sitting right about where IV is. Though my favorite is still VI, even with the Ewoks. The Darth Vader Vs. Luke Skywalker fight in front of the Emperor is my favorite part(s).
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Asmodean on January 04, 2016, 04:30:06 PM
I'm not sure I saw either of the ones you mentioned. But you would give it a four-or-above die cast, no?
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on January 04, 2016, 05:33:47 PM
Yeah, I think it's above average.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on January 04, 2016, 08:27:42 PM
It's hard to imagine seeing it with no Star Wars background. It would certainly make sense. Might even be really interesting, as you'd essentially be seeing the universe through Rae's perspective. if you didn't like Star Wars it won't be any good.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Biggus Dickus on January 19, 2016, 04:36:38 PM
Quote from: Siz on December 30, 2015, 05:22:30 PM
Just saw it today. Empire Strikes Back much?!

I'm really quite disappointed at the unoriginality of the story - taken directly from ESB. Characterisation was cursory. I liked the idea of the power struggle between Kylo and the (cartoonishly fascist) general (or whatever he was) but like so much in this movie was shallowly explored.

Kylo was weedy and useless and would never have attained his position on his own merits. Fin was straight out of any one of a million US action movies, as was Pau.

Rae was delightful and convincing. Her stupid little robot was inane. Han, hamish. Chewy played no other role than a comedy backboard.

The space action scenes were unimaginatively choreographed.

OK, let's find the positives - Rae, a standout character (and actress), Luke, brief, but cool. Leia, understated and nicely matriarchal, but I'd like to have seen her more 'at work'.
The yoda-replacement bar-owner was likeable but predictable. The sets were excellent.

Overall 5/10. Other than to find out where Rae came from and whether Luke can bring some storyline I'm not overly excited by the prospect of the next one...

I saw this back during holiday, actually we were going to the theatre to see Joy, but it was sold out and as Stars Wars was showing in like 5 different theaters we ended up having to see this.

My take on this closely mirrors yours Siz which is why I quoted you...plus for me, there were too many remarkable concurrences of events in this movie, first BB-8 escapes and is found by Rey, (I'm also curious how this robot rolls on sand?) then Rey encounters Finn
and they team up, find the Millennium Falcon which is just sitting in a junk yard on this strange desert planet, somehow this spacecraft is still not only operational, but apparently fairly simple to operate. Then once in space they just happen to come across the Millennium Falcon's previous owner (Sort of like hitting the Powerball) who also happens to be the infamous Han Solo and the Walking Carpet.

I'm not a big Harrison Ford fan, I thought his acting in the first Star Wars was horrible, though I did enjoy his Indian Jones movies, well the first two...anyway I was expecting a huge, dramatic, tear-jerking scene to take place on the bridge between him and Kylo, but it was very anti-clamatic for me. I like Adam Driver, but not sure he was right choice for this role.

I think Rey is either related to Obi Wan Kenobi or maybe Yoda...

It was okay for me, better than the prequels, and fairly close to the original movie...I'm more into Science Fiction than Science Fantasy so I'm not that big of a fan (Its more or less an interstellar soap opera right?).

Probably worth it to see it on the big screen rather than wait to watch it at home on your tv or laptop...it was refreshing not to be overloaded with CGI stuff...I really liked Rey in this movie, a lot, in fact without her I would have been bored...really love her character and thought Daisy portrayed her quite well.

I'll give it 3 digits out of 5.



Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on January 19, 2016, 06:27:57 PM
I'm certain there will be some over complex, nerdy explanation for BB-8's sand rolling ability. Most likely some sort of small repulsorlift. If there isn't already. That would make for really dull story line in the movie, though.

The explanation given for the remarkable coincidences in the Falcon is that She was stolen from Han and pawned off repeatedly, although never particularly well hidden. Han was tracking her already. The storm troopers on Jakku reported the escape, and not being well hidden, it was also easy for the First Order to track her down. I don't believe she is easy to pilot, that's supposed to be part of Rey's extraordinary abilities.

I'd just have preferred they use the well established desert planet full of scumbag gangsters rather than create an identical one for this movie. Going back to Tatooine would be cheesy too, I'd really have preferred a new planet altogether.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Biggus Dickus on January 21, 2016, 06:25:09 PM
I came across this today and thought it was really cute stuff.

Star Wars combined with Winnie the Pooh.  8)

Chewbacca is Pooh, RD32 is Piglet, an Imperial Walker is Eeyore, and Han Solo is Christopher Robin.


(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FADQ6YSB.jpg&hash=13d5e92817d1af545feeb7d9c87c1a36812ffa0a)


Florida based illustrator and artist James Hance just combined Star Wars with Winnie the Pooh. Titled "Wookie the Chew," Hance's illustrations reimagine Chewbacca as Pooh Bear and Eeyore as an Imperial Walker, along other crossovers.
But that's not all. Hance has also just released an audio book of the story! Be sure to check out his website to see more of his work, or Etsy, where you can buy some of these unique, "Wookie the Chew" prints.


You can see more pictures here (http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2fEQGA/:rTOhQEvm:d4ei@BZY/www.boredpanda.com/star-wars-characters-winnie-the-pooh-wookie-the-chew-james-hance/), or go to the artist's website (http://jameshance.com) to see more of his work.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on January 21, 2016, 08:24:40 PM
Awesome find, Bruno!
Shared...
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Biggus Dickus on February 06, 2016, 02:38:39 AM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2FUPOFg.jpg&hash=df051bd3224412786e95745a0956ec03e08105f0)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on February 06, 2016, 05:02:22 PM
Hahaha! I saw that on Facebook too - it's amazing.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Biggus Dickus on February 11, 2016, 01:46:59 PM
Imperial Tie-Cakes!

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiyHtob7.jpg&hash=1325391a1d25144f12c88b9c7459b8b89eaff442)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 11, 2016, 11:30:12 PM
I think I see Darth Vader's face there... 
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on February 12, 2016, 12:52:38 AM
What manner of dark and insidious pancakery is this?! Those are not the light and fluffy pancakes I'm looking for!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Velma on February 13, 2016, 04:02:12 AM
We saw this for the second time tonight. It seems to me that male Skywalkers are a bunch of whiners who either give up or go to the Dark side when things do not go the way they want. Leia keeps going and has rejected the Dark side no matter what happens in her life. She doesn't get nearly enough credit for her strength.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Claireliontamer on April 24, 2016, 12:38:17 PM
So I FINALLY saw this last night on DVD.  I absolutely loved it, even if I knew what was going to happen because it was impossible to avoid all the spoilers.  I would have loved to have seen it in the cinema without knowing what was going to happen but whatever, it was still good.

I actually watched it with scamp.  She's seven but she has seen bits of the original 3, I refuse to make her suffer through the prequels.  I was a little worried that she's only 7 and this is rated a '12' here.  I don't really know if it needed to be a 12 rating, she certainly handled it and is going round today pretending to be Rey.  She was even more excited when she found out the actress who plays Rey shares her real name so I may have bred the next Jedi ;)  She's also in love with BB8 and I actually squealed when R2D2 came back!  I enjoyed the nostalgia that it brought in from the originals, I liked Rey as a strong female character and I liked the cheesiness of there being another 'I'm your father' type storyline. 

Is it the best movie I've ever seen, nah.  But it was for me Star Wars back to what it should be.  Now can we pretend episodes I-III just didn't happen. 
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on April 24, 2016, 05:42:07 PM
It was no more violent than the originals, aside from there being visible blood. At least in the States, where its PG13, there was no such rating when the originals were released, which explains the disparity here.

I thought they did well creating a story line that could be followed by children, but wasn't so dumbed down that adults would be disinterested.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on April 24, 2016, 05:43:56 PM
Also, SUPER FUCKING EXCITED about Rouge One

Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tank on April 24, 2016, 08:01:19 PM
That looks A-MAZ-ZING!!!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Firebird on April 24, 2016, 08:10:18 PM
It does indeed. Who would've thought Disney would the be the savior of Star Wars, or Marvel? (ok, the Marvel movies have varied in quality, but still)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on April 24, 2016, 10:18:18 PM
To be honest I think it looks more interesting than Force Awakens.

And I'm sure Disney will produce some flops too, although Lucas set the bar pretty low.

MON MOTHMA THOUGH!!!!

I'm going to be so pissed if they Phasma her out of this movie.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 25, 2016, 01:38:02 AM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on April 24, 2016, 05:43:56 PM
Also, SUPER FUCKING EXCITED about Rouge One



:watching:

Can't wait!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tank on April 25, 2016, 12:19:36 PM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/13096066_1138807732807267_7344049666781649998_n.jpg?oh=d4e0c5cbd87941ec9d084653f9f1a2fb&oe=57A49855)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on April 25, 2016, 02:01:02 PM
^ :lol:

I'm hoping Disney is going to get deeper into some of the "grey" plot lines of EU (like a mercenary hired by the rebellion turning to the Empire) rather than the black and white Vader=bad; Luke=good. I think that was a powerful tool for the first movie, but as soon as the story starts to expand it becomes nonsensical and boring. I think that's part of why the prequals were so terrible. They didn't really make sense.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Firebird on April 25, 2016, 03:54:46 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on April 25, 2016, 02:01:02 PM
^ :lol:

I'm hoping Disney is going to get deeper into some of the "grey" plot lines of EU (like a mercenary hired by the rebellion turning to the Empire) rather than the black and white Vader=bad; Luke=good. I think that was a powerful tool for the first movie, but as soon as the story starts to expand it becomes nonsensical and boring. I think that's part of why the prequals were so terrible. They didn't really make sense.

So I'm curious, does it bother you at all that they tossed the original EU, since I know you read a lot of the books? I read a bunch too, but I stopped after the New Jedi Order because I didn't feel like there was much more original that could be done (and from what I heard, I was right). And I was a little sad that it got tossed, but admittedly the quality varied a lot; there were some great stories and characters introduced, and then some shit like Barbara Hambly.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on April 25, 2016, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: Firebird on April 25, 2016, 03:54:46 PM
So I'm curious, does it bother you at all that they tossed the original EU, since I know you read a lot of the books? I read a bunch too, but I stopped after the New Jedi Order because I didn't feel like there was much more original that could be done (and from what I heard, I was right). And I was a little sad that it got tossed, but admittedly the quality varied a lot; there were some great stories and characters introduced, and then some shit like Barbara Hambly.
You asked someone else, but I want to answer too because I read a lot of the EU books. I don't mind at all that they cut it out. The books still exist, and I still remember most of it, so it's not like they wiped it out of existence. It's just like a parallel universe. A lot like how the new Star Trek movies got rid of their EU by doing the whole time travel thing, except that in Star Wars they didn't give an "in world" explanation of why they threw away their EU. Though in Star Trek they threw away not just the EU, they threw away the entire universe beyond Enterprise.

The other thing with tossing aside the EU, is that they can still use it, even if they have to rewrite it a bit to fit the new canon. The characters can still come to be.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Guardian85 on April 25, 2016, 04:38:46 PM
I think the decision to ax the entire Expanded Universe was a ham-handed and sloppy solution.
There are a lot of stories in the Expanded Universe that would still fit quite well in the new canon. As The Force Awakens shows the New Republic alive and well (up to a certain point) most of the stories set between Episode VI and VII could be incorporated, and I hope they do it.
I would most wish to see a TV adaptation of the X-wing series by Michael A. Stackpole and Aaron Allston.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Claireliontamer on April 25, 2016, 05:31:00 PM
I haven't read any of the books. I really should do.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on April 25, 2016, 07:43:06 PM
I think axing the EU was the correct choice, but executed poorly. It was announced that they are to be legends, which makes sense - legend is very often based on reality and does leave room to pull characters and story lines. But the way it was done was more "yeah we're ditching that".

There is great EU I'm really hoping shows up in the movies, and there is fucking terrible EU I would never in a million years want to see on the big screen. I skipped two entire books in the Legacy series and wasn't remotely lost on plot line. I think EU is reluctant to kill characters, instead attempting to advance medical care to explain abnormally long lives, and i think that's a big reason EU starts to suck as the time line progresses.

In regard to Rogue One specifically, I haven't seen more than the teaser I posted, but it looks to be about the raid to steal the Death Star plans Leia hid in R2 in the first movie. This gets mention in EU as a raid led by Han Solo's first love after years of chasing eachother across galaxies, finding and losing eachother. She dies and weeks - days? - later there's Han making a pass at Leia. I always thought that in particular was pretty stupid, and I hope to hell they didn't pull that into the movie.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Firebird on April 25, 2016, 10:05:07 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on April 25, 2016, 07:43:06 PM
In regard to Rogue One specifically, I haven't seen more than the teaser I posted, but it looks to be about the raid to steal the Death Star plans Leia hid in R2 in the first movie. This gets mention in EU as a raid led by Han Solo's first love after years of chasing eachother across galaxies, finding and losing eachother. She dies and weeks - days? - later there's Han making a pass at Leia. I always thought that in particular was pretty stupid, and I hope to hell they didn't pull that into the movie.

Hey, but I thought that was Kyle Katarn from Dark Forces who stole the plans?? Or is that not canon either?  I'm so confused.
There might be some hope for integrating parts of the EU into the movies considering Coruscant originally came from them, but I'm not holding my breath. Everything I read said that they were paying as little attention to them as possible.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Guardian85 on April 25, 2016, 10:17:39 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on April 25, 2016, 07:43:06 PM
In regard to Rogue One specifically, I haven't seen more than the teaser I posted, but it looks to be about the raid to steal the Death Star plans Leia hid in R2 in the first movie. This gets mention in EU as a raid led by Han Solo's first love after years of chasing eachother across galaxies, finding and losing eachother. She dies and weeks - days? - later there's Han making a pass at Leia. I always thought that in particular was pretty stupid, and I hope to hell they didn't pull that into the movie.

There are multiple accounts of the theft of the first Death Star's plans. The one I remember best involved an agent named Kyle Katarn stealing a set of schematics in the video game Dark Forces.
Others mention Bothan spies and a raid on the planet Toprawa as the source of the plans. The most commonly held belief among fans is that the plans were not stored as one set of data in a single location. Sufficient individual pieces were aquired, but not integrated into a complete blueprint until they were assembled on the Tantive IV.




Quote from: Claireliontamer on April 25, 2016, 05:31:00 PM

I haven't read any of the books. I really should do.
As stated above I highly recommend the X-wing series. I literally read my copies ragged.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_n_12?fst=as%3Aoff&rh=n%3A16272%2Ck%3Ax-wing&keywords=x-wing&ie=UTF8&qid=1461618939&rnid=2941120011
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Crow on May 01, 2016, 02:55:38 AM
Not being invested in any of the prior stuff and basically thought the original was B move material and thinking the series was over hyped shit, I just finished watching the latest movie and even though it is essentially the same as all the Marvel Disney films (i.e. comedy banter with action) I enjoyed it quite a bit and though it was better then the other six movies combined. Sure it still lacked any real story like the originals, dark vs light, no context or reasoning behind why we should even care beyond a bit of nazi imagery but the characters actually had something about them.

Visually it looked like a Star Wars film whilst retaining a modern slant without feeling overly CGI, this is something other producers could learn when making anything relating to Alien. More interested about the upcoming film, the cast alone makes me think they are going to be more ambitious than they have ever been.

Only two thing I didn't enjoy in the film was how the fuck could they survive those temperatures on the surface with no sun and why did John Boyega have an American accent. But the end confirmed it for me Peter Dinklage is Mark Hamill's love child.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tank on May 01, 2016, 06:55:38 AM
Quote from: Crow on May 01, 2016, 02:55:38 AM
... But the end confirmed it for me Peter Dinklage is Mark Hamill's love child.
:mb lol:

I am soooo going to use that!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Biggus Dickus on May 04, 2016, 02:37:54 PM
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Post by: joeactor on May 05, 2016, 02:41:21 PM
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Post by: Pasta Chick on May 05, 2016, 07:48:56 PM
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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tank on May 07, 2016, 09:04:31 PM
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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Firebird on May 07, 2016, 11:03:16 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 07, 2016, 09:04:31 PM
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That is awesome!!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on May 08, 2016, 02:23:17 AM
Which brings us to the classic crossover joke,

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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on August 13, 2016, 12:07:19 AM
The full trailer for Rouge One is out (https://www.facebook.com/starwarsmovies/videos/617552421759484/)

I'm thrilled with the grittier, amoral look of it... But I'm apprehensive about the actual story line. It just looks sort of confusing and hacked together to introduce some cool characters.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on August 13, 2016, 12:22:47 AM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on August 13, 2016, 12:07:19 AM
The full trailer for Rouge One is out (https://www.facebook.com/starwarsmovies/videos/617552421759484/)

I'm thrilled with the grittier, amoral look of it... But I'm apprehensive about the actual story line. It just looks sort of confusing and hacked together to introduce some cool characters.

I'm kind of assuming it's the story about how they got the Deathstar plans in the first place.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on August 13, 2016, 01:26:49 AM
It is. It's how they get there and some of the individual story arcs that look disjointed to me.

I'm afraid it's going to be like Dark Knight Rises, where there are like 5 different stories all happening at the same time and it's just overly complex and none of them actually flesh out very well. Maybe that's in part because of Lucas' prequels.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Mr. B on August 13, 2016, 03:20:31 AM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on August 13, 2016, 01:26:49 AM
It is. It's how they get there and some of the individual story arcs that look disjointed to me.

I'm afraid it's going to be like Dark Knight Rises, where there are like 5 different stories all happening at the same time and it's just overly complex and none of them actually flesh out very well. Maybe that's in part because of Lucas' prequels.

Have hope. Lucas no longer has anything to do with it.

Personally, I like the teaser trailer that came out months ago better. Sent chills down my spine and actually seemed a little more cohesive in my opinion.



Only time will tell. 
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Firebird on August 13, 2016, 03:55:07 AM
I'm really looking forward to this. I just hope the recent reshoots that Disney ordered won't screw it up because it's "too dark". That's the rumor these days. 

Quote from: Pasta Chick on August 13, 2016, 01:26:49 AM
I'm afraid it's going to be like Dark Knight Rises, where there are like 5 different stories all happening at the same time and it's just overly complex and none of them actually flesh out very well. Maybe that's in part because of Lucas' prequels.

I loved that movie, so I'd be fine with that  ;)
I just hope I'll get to see it in the theaters, since our kid will be born a month or so before. Ahh, adulthood interfering with my inner child. 
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Dave on August 13, 2016, 08:26:10 AM
Sorry folks, hit the "Quote" button instead of "Modify".

:redface:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Dave on August 13, 2016, 08:32:20 AM
Films evolve like any other media, but there may be  a sort of disonance becsuse you have familiar themes and elements with a different presentation, different feel.

I am not a game player but do wonder how many game type elements have been woven into this film? Or even shots influenced by footage from the conflicts in the Near and Middle East. Those that do it for the profit have to keep up with current fashions and imagery. With no constraints of history (outside the "family" of films) and a tongue poke at physics.

But I get the impression a lot of the actors do it 'cos it's bloody good fun!

Love to see the outtakes!

Later: for those who watch it I wonder how many elements from "Game of Thrones" might turn up. But, like jokes, some things have been recycled for centuries, Bill the Bard still has influence.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on August 13, 2016, 05:28:46 PM
I liked the teaser trailer better too, although they did do reshoots after that was released.

It -should- be dark. It's a prelude to war.

I know Lucas is out of it, but Disney doesn't exactly have a glowing record when it comes to prequels or sequels either.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 13, 2016, 10:06:09 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on August 13, 2016, 05:28:46 PM
I know Lucas is out of it, but Disney doesn't exactly have a glowing record when it comes to prequels or sequels either.

Yeah, fingers crossed they don't mess this one up.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Mr. B on August 14, 2016, 05:11:16 PM
It will be a little different than the last three movies. It will be about like A New Hope where we only saw one light saber battle. Everything else is just traditional war fair. It definitely has a grittier feel to it than episode IV had but cinematography has come a long way since then. The Force Awakens was a very decent film. I mean, yeah...Kylo was a whinny little spoiled rich kid with aspirations of GreatnessTM and an unhealthy obsession with his grandfather's legacy but, I am curious to see how his character develops. 

I like the juxtaposition between Force Awakens and Rogue One. Both take place at a time when Jedi are scarce. In Rogue one there is only Ben and Yoda with a padawan who is "too old" to start training (Luke is just beginning to walk down the path of his destiny in this film. I wonder if they will mention a young promising pilot from Tatooin?) . On the other side you have Vader and the Emperor and presumably a young unnamed sith in training? I wonder where Count Dooku is on this timeline?

In Force Awakens we see again a distinct lack of Jedi along with the rise of a young star and a reclusive old master. One Sith Lord and one apprentice who desperately needs more training now that a new student has found Luke.

And so, the Pendulum swings. 

I like this video which breaks down some possible scenarios in Rouge One.






*Disclaimer (I am not writing as an avid Star Wars fan but rather a movie fan of the franchise.)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Dave on August 14, 2016, 05:27:40 PM
 :thumbsup:

Nice post Mr B.

Looking forwatd to the film.

I try to judge every film on its merits not in comparison. That's why I enjoyed Davud Lynch's version, even if it did not follow the book tbst well - still a good example of casting and cinematography. The TV three parter was more accurate but less well casted and directed IMHO.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Guardian85 on August 15, 2016, 05:35:18 PM
Quote from: Mr. B on August 14, 2016, 05:11:16 PM
I like the juxtaposition between Force Awakens and Rogue One. Both take place at a time when Jedi are scarce. In Rogue one there is only Ben and Yoda with a padawan who is "too old" to start training (Luke is just beginning to walk down the path of his destiny in this film. I wonder if they will mention a young promising pilot from Tatooin?) . On the other side you have Vader and the Emperor and presumably a young unnamed sith in training? I wonder where Count Dooku is on this timeline?
Not a new timeline. The standing canon are the 7 released films (Episodes 1-7) and the Clone Wars and Rebels TV shows.
Dooku died on the Invisible Hand. That is canon.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Mr. B on August 16, 2016, 01:11:05 AM
Right. I get myself confused sometimes when switching from past to future to present tense. Shortly after submitting that post I began to realize that Dooku was already dead before the 1st Death Start was completed.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on October 10, 2016, 12:20:30 AM
The fan theories are getting wild, but I like some of them.

Of course there's Darth Plageus as Snoke, which is kinda haunting but seems obvious.

Mace Windu as snoke, which I like but it sure if it fits.

Rey as Palpatines granddaughter, which.. meh.

Finn as Mace Windu's son, which I don't like. Seems like a theory only because they're both black. Which lead me to think it would actually be conceivable for him to be Lando's son, and a potentially interesting story arc about how he's lost to the First Order. 
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on October 10, 2016, 08:21:22 AM
Mace Windu isn't snoke ya crazies.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on October 13, 2016, 03:03:34 PM
New Rouge One trailer!!

Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on October 13, 2016, 04:25:18 PM
I think that movie looks pretty good. I read a book a log time ago that had a bit about the building of the first Death Star, but it was a very long time ago so I my memories of it are very prone to flaws. I think I remember that most of the scientists/engineers that developed it, did so under duress and that them rebelling was to leak out the main weakness of it to the rebels. It seems that they might be keeping to that.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Guardian85 on October 13, 2016, 10:34:47 PM
Definetly stoked to see that!

Only gripe I might have with the movie is that "Rogue 1" has, to Star Wars fans, used to refer to something else.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 15, 2016, 01:10:42 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on October 13, 2016, 03:03:34 PM
New Rouge One trailer!!



:popcorn: Must watch, must watch must watch!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Asmodean on October 15, 2016, 01:51:01 PM
Judging by the trailer, they may have gone the Die Hard 4 way... If that be the case, I will probably give it up mid-way. Still, I'll have a look.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 26, 2016, 12:19:11 PM
:grin: I've been on a goofy movieclip watching spree this morning...

Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on November 26, 2016, 04:08:36 PM
I got an ad for Rouge One on spotify, it went like this:

"They call it the death star"

"Rated PG-13"


I don't know if I want a star wars movie every year, that's just pushing it. What I do find fascinating is the DnD style RPG book for star wars I found on 4shared. I never played DnD myself but I figure I might as well start off with something I like if I were to ever get into something like a table-top RPG.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 26, 2016, 06:46:33 PM
BF and I have taken the 16th off for a movie date  ;D
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 04, 2016, 10:24:19 PM
Tickets purchased!!

Will be at a 3PM showing on Fri. Because I can't talk my 26 year old BF into staying up past midnight.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on December 04, 2016, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 04, 2016, 10:24:19 PM
Tickets purchased!!

Will be at a 3PM showing on Fri. Because I can't talk my 26 year old BF into staying up past midnight.

He's become an old man  :snicker:

I may actually see it if someone I know wants to go. It is Star Wars after all.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Guardian85 on December 05, 2016, 10:31:59 PM
Ticket has been purchased and work schedule altered to facilitate the viewing of Rogue One on the 14th.

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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 06, 2016, 06:31:18 PM
Quote from: Apathy on December 04, 2016, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 04, 2016, 10:24:19 PM
Tickets purchased!!

Will be at a 3PM showing on Fri. Because I can't talk my 26 year old BF into staying up past midnight.

He's become an old man  :snicker:

I may actually see it if someone I know wants to go. It is Star Wars after all.

He's 5 years younger than me!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on December 07, 2016, 03:40:01 AM
Oh did I say old? I meant malnourished.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on December 07, 2016, 03:42:15 AM
Interesting playlist here if you are really nerdy like me.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbKF6g9wDZSEiQZ2kjrqr15kY0RRn-H6V

This is the guy who inspired me to talk about martial arts but he does it WAY better in these videos. He's basically talking about the real world influences into the on screen versions of Jedi and packages it into a usable product. I would suggest watching from the bottom of the playlist up as the whole thing is backwards and he references other videos later on.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Recusant on December 10, 2016, 05:25:05 AM
Some funny stuff here: "#DumpStarWars protesters demand that Rogue One be a safe space" | A.V. Club (http://www.avclub.com/article/dumpstarwars-protesters-demand-rogue-one-be-safe-s-247186)

QuoteRogue One: A Star Wars Story hasn't even premiered yet, but the film's already getting it from all sides. Earlier this week, reports surfaced (http://www.avclub.com/article/white-supremacists-want-boycott-rogue-one-over-its-247037) that white supremacists intended to boycott the movie because they simply couldn't bear the strain of seeing someone who doesn't look like them up on the big screen (no idea what that feels like). And even if that Reddit-born initiative flails, there's a new hope for the intolerant, as Mashable reports (http://mashable.com/2016/12/09/alt-right-star-wars-trump-supporters-debunk/?utm_cid=hp-r-1#FXp7vIDpDOqV) that Donald Trump supporters are calling for a separate boycott over claims that the reshoots were done to shoehorn some anti-Trump scenes. This is complete bullshit, of course, but misinformation or a lack of information never stopped the president-elect, so why would it give his supporters any pause?

[Continues . . . (http://www.avclub.com/article/dumpstarwars-protesters-demand-rogue-one-be-safe-s-247186)]

Damned Hollywood libruls!  :grrr:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 10, 2016, 05:35:56 PM
Well, the movies are notably anti-totalitarian, so I guess I can see how a Trump supporter would be offended.

The Empire is pretty explicitly human supremacist in EU, if not specifically white supremacist. It doesn't get much attention in the OT, but a bit more in the prequels. 
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on December 10, 2016, 11:45:54 PM
They've always had black people in the movies ever since James Earl Jones.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 11, 2016, 12:26:32 AM
Quote from: Apathy on December 10, 2016, 11:45:54 PM
They've always had black people in the movies ever since James Earl Jones.

Not really. Vader the character is inarguably portrayed as a white man. By David Prowse in the OT - Jones was hired because they didn't like Prowse's voice - and solidified in the prequels by casting Jake Lloyd and then Hayden Christiansen as young Anakin Skywalker.

The only notable Black character in the OT is Lando Calrissian, who is used as a pawn by the Empire.

There are more Black characters in the prequels but they are all "good guys".

Obviously there is Finn in Force Awakens but I wouldn't argue that the Empire particularly values Storm Troopers as anything but a necessary but disposable commodity.

So while they aren't blatantly White Supremacist they aren't exactly overflowing with diversity either.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on December 13, 2016, 04:50:50 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 11, 2016, 12:26:32 AM
Quote from: Apathy on December 10, 2016, 11:45:54 PM
They've always had black people in the movies ever since James Earl Jones.

Not really. Vader the character is inarguably portrayed as a white man. By David Prowse in the OT - Jones was hired because they didn't like Prowse's voice - and solidified in the prequels by casting Jake Lloyd and then Hayden Christiansen as young Anakin Skywalker.

This is just two sides of the same coin. Darth Vader was physically a white guy underneath the armor, but you didn't know that until Return of the Jedi. You mostly knew him as James Earl Jones voice. And even the guy who wore the suit is not allowed at conventions I hear because of the fuss he gave for not being the voice of Vader. And further, even though it's always been somebody else wearing Vader's suit, the voice that we hear from it has always been that of James Earl Jones. It's all apart of the mystery of "Who is Darth Vader?"
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 13, 2016, 07:13:44 PM
That assumes the audience knows who JEJ is - while voices can have patterns overall you can't actually sound your race. And flies in the face of the many, many studies we have that show an otherwise unspecified character will generally be assumed white.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on December 13, 2016, 09:20:21 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 13, 2016, 07:13:44 PM
That assumes the audience knows who JEJ is - while voices can have patterns overall you can't actually sound your race. And flies in the face of the many, many studies we have that show an otherwise unspecified character will generally be assumed white.

It was pretty widely publicized at the time that JEJ was the voice.

I get requests all the time to sound like a particular race, region, accent or dialect. It's more about what people expect a particular race to sound like, rather than saying that everyone of that race sounds that way.

That being said, there's sure a lot of white folks in movies!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 13, 2016, 09:40:40 PM




Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 13, 2016, 09:45:58 PM
Quote from: Apathy on December 07, 2016, 03:40:01 AM
Oh did I say old? I meant malnourished.

:foottap: The youth these days...
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 13, 2016, 09:48:23 PM
Quote from: Guardian85 on December 05, 2016, 10:31:59 PM
Ticket has been purchased and work schedule altered to facilitate the viewing of Rogue One on the 14th.

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On the 14th?! Lucky you!  ;D

I'll only be able to watch it this weekend, or the next. :sad sigh:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on December 14, 2016, 02:15:13 AM
Quote from: joeactor on December 13, 2016, 09:20:21 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 13, 2016, 07:13:44 PM
That assumes the audience knows who JEJ is - while voices can have patterns overall you can't actually sound your race. And flies in the face of the many, many studies we have that show an otherwise unspecified character will generally be assumed white.

It was pretty widely publicized at the time that JEJ was the voice.

I get requests all the time to sound like a particular race, region, accent or dialect. It's more about what people expect a particular race to sound like, rather than saying that everyone of that race sounds that way.

That being said, there's sure a lot of white folks in movies!

I agree. Like I said, it's just two sides of the same coin. While James Earl Jones is most famous for Vader, there are a lot of white people in movies.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Guardian85 on December 15, 2016, 12:02:15 AM
Seen it. Loved it!  8)

'nuff said.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 15, 2016, 01:52:07 AM
Quote from: Guardian85 on December 15, 2016, 12:02:15 AM
Seen it. Loved it!  8)

'nuff said.

*blink* *blink*

Anyone have an antidote for green skin? It's not like I'm turning into Yoda or anything, but it has gotten a distinctly envious hue just now...
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on December 15, 2016, 10:06:04 PM
TOMORROW!!!!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Guardian85 on December 16, 2016, 10:03:32 PM
And just because I'm such a total asshole I went and saw it again today!  :nanana:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 17, 2016, 02:47:07 AM
I saw it!

Aside from no Bothans, I only have one gripe.

And I'm sad because no Peter Cushing but there's not much that can be done about that.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 17, 2016, 10:32:16 AM
Watched it! :grin:

The ending though... :weepy:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 17, 2016, 03:58:00 PM
Do we wait before going full spoilers since it's a new movie? Or fuck it, this is a spoiler thread?

I would have been annoyed with any other ending.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 17, 2016, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 17, 2016, 03:58:00 PM
Do we wait before going full spoilers since it's a new movie? Or fuck it, this is a spoiler thread?

:notsure: This is a spoiler thread but IMO maybe use the spoiler tag until maybe Monday to give others a chance to see the movie (and G85 a chance to watch it another 20 or so times :grin:). 

QuoteI would have been annoyed with any other ending.

Now that it's sunk in I agree, any other ending would have been overly cliché.

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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on December 17, 2016, 11:50:28 PM
I'm seeing the movie either Monday or Thursday so I will be back then.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 18, 2016, 01:30:44 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 17, 2016, 06:09:21 PM

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Yeah, I can see where they were sorta setting that up too, but again, cliches...

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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 18, 2016, 01:08:37 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 18, 2016, 01:30:44 AM
Yeah, I can see where they were sorta setting that up too, but again, cliches...

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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Recusant on December 19, 2016, 12:10:33 AM
No need to spoiler this: Star Wars Expanded Universe [EU] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_expanded_universe)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 19, 2016, 12:17:33 AM
Quote from: Recusant on December 19, 2016, 12:10:33 AM
No need to spoiler this: Star Wars Expanded Universe [EU] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_expanded_universe)

Cool :grin:

Thank you.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 19, 2016, 03:12:43 PM
Yes, that.

Also, BF just sent me this, which we've been mulling over on our own since we saw the movie. It's full of spoilers, in case you also ignore it's many spoiler warnings.

The Detail in Rogue One Annoying Me (https://www.google.com/amp/www.deathandtaxesmag.com/312790/detail-in-rogue-one-been-annoying-me%3Famp%3D1?client=ms-android-verizon)

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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on December 20, 2016, 02:59:58 PM
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Now what has bothered me since the reveal of Leia being Vader's daughter, and also having the force: didn't Vader know that she had the force? He could detect Luke from super far away, but it wouldn't make sense if he couldn't detect Leia's force when he was two inches away from her. Maybe her force isn't as strong as Luke's, but they said that there was another if Luke died, and I thought they were talking about Leia. But if that were the case, then wouldn't she have a decent amount power with the force? It just seems like Vader should have felt her through the force on more than one occasion.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 20, 2016, 05:50:15 PM
Are we all good to go spoiler tag free? Using tags on my phone sucks.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on December 20, 2016, 06:00:57 PM
I'm fine with tag free spoilers, it's past opening weekend and the thread has a warning about spoilers.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 20, 2016, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 20, 2016, 05:50:15 PM
Are we all good to go spoiler tag free? Using tags on my phone sucks.

Sure. :grin:

WARNING!!!! Rogue One Spoilers beyond this point!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Guardian85 on December 21, 2016, 01:27:27 AM
Quote from: Davin on December 20, 2016, 02:59:58 PM

"Intercepted transmissions"
So the ship the princess is on was on the ship that received the transmissions from the planet. These are the transmissions that Vader in IV is talking about that were intercepted. I'm not sure what else someone would call them, so that fits with me.

"But we're just on a diplomatic mission"
Probably a last ditch effort to try to weasel themselves out of it. There was a time when the ship (probably not the only one of the same type in the galaxy), wasn't observed, and they might have been trying to get Vader to doubt that they had the right ship. And why not? Would it have worked out better if they were like, "oh, you got us, we're all rebels and you should kill us."

But why was the princess even there?
I think I remember them saying that they'd want to enlist the help of a certain robed friend who had been hiding since they started hunting Jedi, and that they were entrusting the mission to someone they were hinting to be Leia, so why would she not be with the fleet that was getting the information that she is supposed to deliver? Also, the ship was inside another ship out of sight, they were probably planning to hand over the data, go to some other system, drop the ship off, then proceed on a real diplomatic mission... until Vader showed up in a moon sized battle station and whooped their asses.

Now what has bothered me since the reveal of Leia being Vader's daughter, and also having the force: didn't Vader know that she had the force? He could detect Luke from super far away, but it wouldn't make sense if he couldn't detect Leia's force when he was two inches away from her. Maybe her force isn't as strong as Luke's, but they said that there was another if Luke died, and I thought they were talking about Leia. But if that were the case, then wouldn't she have a decent amount power with the force? It just seems like Vader should have felt her through the force on more than one occasion.

A common trick in the Star Wars "Extended Universe" is for ships doing shady shit to have two or more transponders for identification.
Captain Antilles was probably trying to bluff Vader into thinking that the ship he saw at Scarif and the one they caught later were not the same. The CR-90 is a fairly common design in the Star Wars universe, so it might have worked on a less capable interrogator.

As for Varder being able to sense Luke and not Leia, he didn't sense Luke when he was on Tattooiine in the beginning of Episode IV. He didn't start really noticing him until Luke started using his powers and had had some training. It is not therefore not unwarranted to believe that as a force user develops their abilities they become more detectable as they become stronger. Until they reach a point where they have to employ force skills to actively hide their precence, as Obi-Wan did.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 21, 2016, 04:00:13 AM
Quote from: Davin on December 20, 2016, 02:59:58 PM
But why was the princess even there?
I think I remember them saying that they'd want to enlist the help of a certain robed friend who had been hiding since they started hunting Jedi, and that they were entrusting the mission to someone they were hinting to be Leia, so why would she not be with the fleet that was getting the information that she is supposed to deliver? Also, the ship was inside another ship out of sight, they were probably planning to hand over the data, go to some other system, drop the ship off, then proceed on a real diplomatic mission... until Vader showed up in a moon sized battle station and whooped their asses

They were definitely sending her to contact Obi Wan, but that was well before the attack began. The rebels were planning NOT to attack at that point and had no idea they would be receiving plans. So Leia was told to contact Obi Wan, and many hours later got on a Mon Calamari cruiser headed unplanned to a war zone.

QuoteNow what has bothered me since the reveal of Leia being Vader's daughter, and also having the force: didn't Vader know that she had the force? He could detect Luke from super far away, but it wouldn't make sense if he couldn't detect Leia's force when he was two inches away from her. Maybe her force isn't as strong as Luke's, but they said that there was another if Luke died, and I thought they were talking about Leia. But if that were the case, then wouldn't she have a decent amount power with the force? It just seems like Vader should have felt her through the force on more than one occasion.

What G8 said. Leia had been intentionally kept hidden from Vader by Yoda and Obi Wan (and apparently Qui Gon as well) so in addition to not knowing she was there to look for, I imagine they would have taken keeping her hidden in the force into account.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on December 21, 2016, 01:59:47 PM
Quote from: Guardian85 on December 21, 2016, 01:27:27 AMAs for Varder being able to sense Luke and not Leia, he didn't sense Luke when he was on Tattooiine in the beginning of Episode IV. He didn't start really noticing him until Luke started using his powers and had had some training. It is not therefore not unwarranted to believe that as a force user develops their abilities they become more detectable as they become stronger. Until they reach a point where they have to employ force skills to actively hide their precence, as Obi-Wan did.
I don't remember Vader near Luke, but also, even when someone is not trained with the force, Jedi can detect it at close range, and Vader was all up in her face interrogating her. If she had the force as it is later revealed, Vader should have known. I don't think Vader ever got very close to Obi Wan or Luke, until they both got onto the Death Star, then Vader could feel them. It doesn't make sense to me, unless Vader knew that Leia had the force.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on December 21, 2016, 02:06:20 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 21, 2016, 04:00:13 AM
Quote from: Davin on December 20, 2016, 02:59:58 PM
But why was the princess even there?
I think I remember them saying that they'd want to enlist the help of a certain robed friend who had been hiding since they started hunting Jedi, and that they were entrusting the mission to someone they were hinting to be Leia, so why would she not be with the fleet that was getting the information that she is supposed to deliver? Also, the ship was inside another ship out of sight, they were probably planning to hand over the data, go to some other system, drop the ship off, then proceed on a real diplomatic mission... until Vader showed up in a moon sized battle station and whooped their asses

They were definitely sending her to contact Obi Wan, but that was well before the attack began. The rebels were planning NOT to attack at that point and had no idea they would be receiving plans. So Leia was told to contact Obi Wan, and many hours later got on a Mon Calamari cruiser headed unplanned to a war zone.
Yeah, the admiral could have been the one hiding Leia's ship and transporting it, then they learned about Rogue One and then diverted to try to get the plans they already knew that Rogue One was after. Could even have been persuaded by Leia.

Quote from: Pasta Chick
QuoteNow what has bothered me since the reveal of Leia being Vader's daughter, and also having the force: didn't Vader know that she had the force? He could detect Luke from super far away, but it wouldn't make sense if he couldn't detect Leia's force when he was two inches away from her. Maybe her force isn't as strong as Luke's, but they said that there was another if Luke died, and I thought they were talking about Leia. But if that were the case, then wouldn't she have a decent amount power with the force? It just seems like Vader should have felt her through the force on more than one occasion.

What G8 said. Leia had been intentionally kept hidden from Vader by Yoda and Obi Wan (and apparently Qui Gon as well) so in addition to not knowing she was there to look for, I imagine they would have taken keeping her hidden in the force into account.
Leia had been hidden, until she was captured and interrogated directly by Vader. I could swallow that if Vader wasn't inches from Leia, Vader wasn't a master in the force, Leia was master in the force, and/or she didn't have the force at all.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 23, 2016, 10:48:21 PM
Carrie Fisher is in critical condition after suffering a cardiac episode on a flight (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-carrie-fisher-cardiac-20161223-story.html)

:'(

I'm so heartbroken. 2016 can fuck right the fuck off.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Magdalena on December 23, 2016, 10:57:18 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 23, 2016, 10:48:21 PM
Carrie Fisher is in critical condition after suffering a cardiac episode on a flight (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-carrie-fisher-cardiac-20161223-story.html)

:'(

I'm so heartbroken. 2016 can fuck right the fuck off.
:therethere:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on December 24, 2016, 06:04:57 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 23, 2016, 10:48:21 PM
Carrie Fisher is in critical condition after suffering a cardiac episode on a flight (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-carrie-fisher-cardiac-20161223-story.html)

:'(

I'm so heartbroken. 2016 can fuck right the fuck off.

She is in recovery.

On another note, the movie was awesome. The only part that got me in a contradictive way was them using the Death Star at all because I think I remember in ep IV that General Tarkin threatened Leia to test the Death Star on her home planet which implies that was the first time they ever used the Death Star.

Other than that I have no gripe and Vader was bad ass. And on my way back from the theatre, I stopped at an intersection and looked to the side and saw a church called "New Hope". Sometimes fiction inspires...Fiction lol

EDIT: I also wanted to add that I almost cried at the end when they were wrapping up the movie. It took everything I had to hold it back. Idk why I do this at movies but I do, it was just that this one was especially powerful. :( 
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Guardian85 on December 27, 2016, 08:54:21 PM
Quote from: Apathy on December 24, 2016, 06:04:57 PM

On another note, the movie was awesome. The only part that got me in a contradictive way was them using the Death Star at all because I think I remember in ep IV that General Tarkin threatened Leia to test the Death Star on her home planet which implies that was the first time they ever used the Death Star.

Alderaan was the first time they tried the Death Star on full blast. So it was a first test for the DS.
Until that point they knew it could relocate a decent sized city fairly effectively, but they still had not confirmed it's planet-killing potential. Jeddha and Scarif were mere dress rehersals. Alderaan is Tarkin's opening night.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 28, 2016, 12:37:44 AM
This is my huge bit pick - Why is everyone "force be with you"ing left and right? Obviously there would be some who remember and hold on to the Jedi way, but it's pretty clear the Empire did their best to quash that wholeness thing ASAP and by A New Hope no one really buys in to it any more. There are numerous references to it being a "hokey religion", "sorcerers", Luke has never even heard of it...
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on December 28, 2016, 02:18:34 AM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 28, 2016, 12:37:44 AM
This is my huge bit pick - Why is everyone "force be with you"ing left and right? Obviously there would be some who remember and hold on to the Jedi way, but it's pretty clear the Empire did their best to quash that wholeness thing ASAP and by A New Hope no one really buys in to it any more. There are numerous references to it being a "hokey religion", "sorcerers", Luke has never even heard of it...

Yeah it didn't really seem playable, especially since Leia (RIP) didn't even have any sort mention to it until -Return of the Jedi- to which she said to Luke, "You have a power I could never have". And Leia was apart of the Galactic Senate and the rebellion. And seeing as she doesn't mention the force for the longest time, and how she seems to be more political than anything, than it would seem that people in the Government/Rebellion don't have any lean towards the force at all.

tl;dr It was kind of mystical and dead for so long, that people had no idea what it was at all.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Guardian85 on December 28, 2016, 03:13:58 AM
Quote from: Apathy on December 28, 2016, 02:18:34 AM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 28, 2016, 12:37:44 AM
This is my huge bit pick - Why is everyone "force be with you"ing left and right? Obviously there would be some who remember and hold on to the Jedi way, but it's pretty clear the Empire did their best to quash that wholeness thing ASAP and by A New Hope no one really buys in to it any more. There are numerous references to it being a "hokey religion", "sorcerers", Luke has never even heard of it...

Yeah it didn't really seem playable, especially since Leia (RIP) didn't even have any sort mention to it until -Return of the Jedi- to which she said to Luke, "You have a power I could never have". And Leia was apart of the Galactic Senate and the rebellion. And seeing as she doesn't mention the force for the longest time, and how she seems to be more political than anything, than it would seem that people in the Government/Rebellion don't have any lean towards the force at all.

tl;dr It was kind of mystical and dead for so long, that people had no idea what it was at all.
Several of the people in the Rebellion who actually use "may the Force be with you" are people who were still alive before Palpatine's purge. First among these, of course, being pepole like General Jan Dodonna, and Senators Mon Mothma and Bail Antilles. These are people who remember the Jedi for what they were, and would help to explain why there is an excess of Force worship in the Rebellion. 
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Firebird on January 02, 2017, 08:35:52 PM
Finally saw it yesterday and liked it a lot overall. I had a few nitpicks, one of which being the two mercenaries (the guy with the gun and Donnie Yen's character) just sort of tagging along and becoming part of the crew without anyone really questioning it, and then they just die. No real development there. I also found CGI Leia dipping into the uncanny valley where it didn't look quite real to me. Tarkin's CGI was well done, but something about Leia's really felt fake and plasticy. Though I still felt a twinge of pain seeing that face right after Carrie dying. I liked Jyn and Cassian a lot. And Vader's scenes were great, especially at the end when his lightsaber illuminates the room. Instant feeling of dread right there.

Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 28, 2016, 12:37:44 AM
There are numerous references to it being a "hokey religion", "sorcerers", Luke has never even heard of it...

It's a big galaxy :) I'm sure some parts still adhere more to the force than others, much like, say, India holds on to Hinduism more than we do in the west.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on January 02, 2017, 09:20:08 PM
Totally off the current discussion and I'll likely pop back for more Rouge One chat when I have more time...

Anyone know of a good synopsis or graphic novel or something for the Clone Wars television series? I want to watch because it's new canon, but my Asmo... it's just awful. Even BF can't hack and he has a super high tolerance for bad television.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on January 02, 2017, 11:57:22 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on January 02, 2017, 09:20:08 PM
Totally off the current discussion and I'll likely pop back for more Rouge One chat when I have more time...

Anyone know of a good synopsis or graphic novel or something for the Clone Wars television series? I want to watch because it's new canon, but my Asmo... it's just awful. Even BF can't hack and he has a super high tolerance for bad television.

I don't think anything like that exists for any of the cartoon series, and if there is, it's likely for children. And I'm pretty sure everything else about the clone wars was swept away when Disney took over.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Firebird on January 03, 2017, 04:18:10 AM
Quote from: Apathy on January 02, 2017, 11:57:22 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on January 02, 2017, 09:20:08 PM
Totally off the current discussion and I'll likely pop back for more Rouge One chat when I have more time...

Anyone know of a good synopsis or graphic novel or something for the Clone Wars television series? I want to watch because it's new canon, but my Asmo... it's just awful. Even BF can't hack and he has a super high tolerance for bad television.

I don't think anything like that exists for any of the cartoon series, and if there is, it's likely for children. And I'm pretty sure everything else about the clone wars was swept away when Disney took over.

I think Disney did keep the cartoon as canon. Maybe check Wookiepedia?
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on January 03, 2017, 02:04:00 PM
Yeah, unfortunately just the CGI cartoon series, because frankly the animated movies were pretty badass.

We started watching season 1 a long time ago on Netflix. Just tried to get back into it and failed. Skipped ahead to the Mandalorian bits, got pissed off and quit again.
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Post by: Biggus Dickus on January 03, 2017, 09:59:59 PM
Saw this last week with my kids which was loads of fun, especially as they're both adults now and we rarely see movies together anymore...all three of us were extremely excited to see it, and had a good time.

I liked this movie quite a bit, in fact I think it is my favorite out of all of them except of course for the first one (E. IV) which can never be topped simply for the fact that it was the first (I saw it in the theater as a young kid when if first came out, and it blew me away)

This one seemed to me to be the one of the most realistic out of all of them, and is the only one out of all of the movies to tear me up a bit at the end.

My only bit of a nit-pick is right at the end of the movie, as I would have not shown Princess Leia's face, only her back with her hood up along with the sound of her voice. I think it would have been a bit more artistic.

I look forward to more like this....
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Firebird on January 04, 2017, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on January 03, 2017, 09:59:59 PM

My only bit of a nit-pick is right at the end of the movie, as I would have not shown Princess Leia's face, only her back with her hood up along with the sound of her voice. I think it would have been a bit more artistic.

Agreed. Also, good to see you back here Bruno.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on January 04, 2017, 08:03:50 PM
Behold the Monomyth!

(https://caminocasebook.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/monomyth.jpg)

This is work done by Joseph Cambell, who inspired George Lucas to create Star Wars, who inspired viewers to begin a hero's journey of their own.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on January 04, 2017, 10:22:49 PM
Quote from: Apathy on January 04, 2017, 08:03:50 PM
Behold the Monomyth!

(https://caminocasebook.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/monomyth.jpg)

This is work done by Joseph Cambell, who inspired George Lucas to create Star Wars, who inspired viewers to begin a hero's journey of their own.

Cool find... always liked Joseph Campbell's take on religion, heroes and Star Wars.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on January 05, 2017, 06:10:54 AM
Quote from: joeactor on January 04, 2017, 10:22:49 PM
Cool find... always liked Joseph Campbell's take on religion, heroes and Star Wars.

I actually found it because of a YouTuber I follow. He referenced the books "The Hero With A Thousand Faces" and "The Hero's Journey". Both done by Joseph Cambell.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 05, 2017, 04:53:27 PM
Quote from: Apathy on January 04, 2017, 08:03:50 PM
Behold the Monomyth!

(https://caminocasebook.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/monomyth.jpg)

This is work done by Joseph Cambell, who inspired George Lucas to create Star Wars, who inspired viewers to begin a hero's journey of their own.

Cool!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on January 05, 2017, 10:25:14 PM
PBS Bill Moyers had a series of interviews with Joseph Campbell - here's a short bit from it:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 24, 2017, 11:43:31 PM
The Official Title For Star Wars: Episode VIII Revealed (http://www.starwars.com/news/the-official-title-for-star-wars-episode-viii-revealed)
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Post by: Biggus Dickus on January 29, 2017, 03:04:14 PM
Mark Hamill reacts to new 'Star Wars' title.



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Post by: Dave on April 11, 2017, 06:53:41 PM
Just watched "Rogue One".

Hmmm...

The re-programmed Imperial robot was the best character in it for me.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Biggus Dickus on May 04, 2017, 06:08:25 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPf4AIIY.jpg&hash=0ae860bed4973d849a33835c626dc7f16c785555)

MAY THE 4TH BE WITH YOU ALL!

In honor of May the 4th day here's a true story by the comedian Jim Jeffries about his brother, George Lucas, and a Lizard.

Story bit starts about 1:25 into the clip

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Post by: Magdalena on May 04, 2017, 06:57:08 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/50ff5i2AkMwnK/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 06, 2017, 12:12:05 AM
*blink* *blink*

I stared at that for a long time before finally getting it.

:offtobed:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Arturo on May 17, 2017, 05:18:18 AM
So I was thinking, when Vader force choked that dude in Rogue One and he says "be careful not to choke on your ambitions", I was thinking that Darth must still follow the Jedi philosophy because the Jedi practiced detachment. Just a thought. He still uses dark side force powers but his mind is warped to where he can't tell good from evil. It's like Obi Wan said to him "you are lost"
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 05, 2017, 02:16:51 AM
Quote from: joeactor on January 05, 2017, 10:25:14 PM
PBS Bill Moyers had a series of interviews with Joseph Campbell - here's a short bit from it:


Just found this interesting animation on the Hero's Journey:

Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on July 05, 2017, 03:00:06 PM
xSp - I liked those Moyer/Campbell interviews. Very interesting perspective on humans and roles in society.

BTW, I'm working on a Star Wars parody song (yeah, I'm the last guy to write one of those!)
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Post by: Biggus Dickus on October 12, 2017, 04:24:39 PM
In case you haven't seen it yet, here's the new trailer for Star Wars: The Last Jedi...this looks interesting, and I can't wait to see the movie.

My son and I were discussing it last night, and he thinks that Kylo Ren will ultimately, like Darth Vader before him turn good at some point, or at least do something of value to try and ease his conscience for killing his father.
He also thinks that Rey will be tempted by the dark side, but like Luke she will stay on the light side.

Something to look forward to this winter.






Oh, and I thought this was good.


"LUKE",...I AM MY OWN FATHER"!

(https://i.imgur.com/G70AnLE.jpg)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 12, 2017, 04:59:01 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on October 12, 2017, 04:24:39 PM
In case you haven't seen it yet, here's the new trailer for Star Wars: The Last Jedi...this looks interesting, and I can't wait to see the movie.

My son and I were discussing it last night, and he thinks that Kylo Ren will ultimately, like Darth Vader before him turn good at some point, or at least do something of value to try and ease his conscience for killing his father.
He also thinks that Rey will be tempted by the dark side, but like Luke she will stay on the light side.

Something to look forward to this winter.



Can't wait! :jumps:



QuoteOh, and I thought this was good.


"LUKE",...I AM MY OWN FATHER"!

(https://i.imgur.com/G70AnLE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/doV6FbI.gif)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Guardian85 on October 12, 2017, 11:42:43 PM
Saw the trailer. Goosebumps all over!
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tank on October 13, 2017, 08:51:02 AM
Quote from: Guardian85 on October 12, 2017, 11:42:43 PM
Saw the trailer. Goosebumps all over!
Not an image I wanted thank you :puke:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on October 13, 2017, 03:38:11 PM
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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on October 20, 2017, 06:40:45 PM
Pretty good... but I think I can do without the cutesy bird thing in the Chewy scene.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 11, 2017, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: joeactor on October 20, 2017, 06:40:45 PM
Pretty good... but I think I can do without the cutesy bird thing in the Chewy scene.

Hopefully it isn't going to be like another Jar Jar Binks.  ::)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on November 20, 2017, 02:45:12 PM
Star Wars song "Ode to Obi-Wan"!
(as heard on Dr. Demento and The FuMP)
Like and Share! (I'll give you a cookie ;-) )
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 20, 2017, 08:04:41 PM
Quote from: joeactor on November 20, 2017, 02:45:12 PM
Star Wars song "Ode to Obi-Wan"!
(as heard on Dr. Demento and The FuMP)
Like and Share! (I'll give you a cookie ;-) )


:clapping:

Fun! :grin:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on November 20, 2017, 08:10:47 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on November 20, 2017, 08:04:41 PM
Quote from: joeactor on November 20, 2017, 02:45:12 PM
Star Wars song "Ode to Obi-Wan"!
(as heard on Dr. Demento and The FuMP)
Like and Share! (I'll give you a cookie ;-) )


:clapping:

Fun! :grin:

Thanks!  the illustrator did a super job...
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: SisterAgatha on November 21, 2017, 05:13:05 PM
Not a fan of it at all.

It is desperately unoriginal and wedded to milking the success of Star Wars from 30 + years ago.

Its a bad sign when they characters in theirs 60s-70s are more memorable than the hip young ones.

I know Hollywood loves to revive old franchises, but I do think the Star Wars Franchise is milked just about dry..
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on November 21, 2017, 06:56:37 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 21, 2017, 05:13:05 PM
Not a fan of it at all.

It is desperately unoriginal and wedded to milking the success of Star Wars from 30 + years ago.

Its a bad sign when they characters in theirs 60s-70s are more memorable than the hip young ones.

I know Hollywood loves to revive old franchises, but I do think the Star Wars Franchise is milked just about dry..

I think it started to go off the rails with the "director's cut" versions of the original 3 movies. Just got worse from there.

The new ones are better, though. Worth a look, I think.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 22, 2017, 01:20:44 AM
I think fans need to accept that a groan-worthy, cutesy species is just part of the Star Wars package (although Jar Jar was unacceptable on a lot of levels). It's a love-to-hate sort of deal and ultimately I think it makes the movies more accessible to younger crowds.

BF and I have put in for the 15th off to hit a matinee and get dinner  ;D
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 15, 2017, 09:10:14 PM
I'm going to watch it in a couple of hours!  :dance:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 15, 2017, 09:11:59 PM
I just got back! Is there an agreed upon spoiler date? Or shall we just go for it given the thread title?
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 15, 2017, 09:14:56 PM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 15, 2017, 09:11:59 PM
I just got back! Is there an agreed upon spoiler date? Or shall we just go for it given the thread title?

Well, technically this is a spoiler thread, so I guess go ahead!

I'll read whatever you have written when I get back, and hopefully have a bunch of good things to say about the film. :grin:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 16, 2017, 01:03:17 PM
Ok so I watched The Last Jedi yesterday. Long film and not so bad in my opinion. I was left with the strong impression while watching it that they're stretching it across multiple films to milk the franchise, but I guess when you have a cash cow like that then why on Earth would you kill it?  I just wish that it hadn't been so attention-grabbing, like an unpleasant aftertaste...

Anyway, 

WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD!

SPOILERS BEYOND THIS POINT!

You have been warned. :this:

First of all, I'll say that I enjoyed this movie, even if it felt like the plot didn't advance very much, with both the First Order (or will it be called something like Ren's Order now? :notsure:) and depleted Resistance have both survived to appear in another film and battle it out again. And again.

Speaking of again, this film has been about renewal, with a new generation of freedom fighters (Poe, Rey and Finn?) and representative of the dark side, Kylo Ren taking the lead. Leia was not killed of in this movie yet, but seemed to be willing to hand leadership over to Poe when he suggested they follow him to find an alternative way out of the salt cave. Since Carrie Fischer has passed they will probably kill off her character as well. Or something.

Luke is gone, but will probably be haunting Kylo Ren in the coming films.

The ultimate baddie of this and previous film, Snoke, is unimpressive. I felt like we needed some more backstory to how he came to power in the movies. Perhaps they go into it in books and video games and if so, I think the average movie-going but not diehard fan was possibly alienated. Who the hell was he? 

I'm a little disappointed that Rey's parents have no larger part in the story. If what Ren said was true, they sold her off for drinking money when she was little. It would have been interesting if she didn't have parents, and was some sort of physical manifestation of the Force (much like fatherless Anakin was?), brought to fulfill a prophecy and bring balance...again. I need someone to explain how she's so sensitive to the Force with Star Wars universe plausibility!   :no idea:

Anyway, I feel there were a lot of loose ends, which is to be expected in the second movie of a trilogy, but I really hope they start tying them in the next.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 16, 2017, 07:15:01 PM
I'm still mulling a lot of things over.

I totally agree about Snoke. Especially after they built up such a "who is Snoke" mystery after VII. It is well established that Sith apprentices kill their masters as they come to full power, but there could have been so much more story around him.

I'm sad about their treatment Leia. With Carrie Fisher being dead we know that story line can't continue forever, but they kinda set her up to carry the Resistance moving forward. Thats the storyline I wanted to see, but Fisher is dead. I dont want to see her as a CGI hologram in the next 3 movies. Meanwhile I feel like they just teased her death over and over.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Guardian85 on December 16, 2017, 11:24:26 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 16, 2017, 01:03:17 PM

I'm a little disappointed that Rey's parents have no larger part in the story. If what Ren said was true, they sold her off for drinking money when she was little. It would have been interesting if she didn't have parents, and was some sort of physical manifestation of the Force (much like fatherless Anakin was?), brought to fulfill a prophecy and bring balance...again. I need someone to explain how she's so sensitive to the Force with Star Wars universe plausibility!   :no idea:
Throwing my 0.02$ in on this subject, I call bullshit on Kylo's claim that they were nobody. If we recall the force vision Ray had in Episode 7, where a young Ray is yelling at a ship while it's leaving, this does not match up with Kylo's story.
My personal pet theory regarding Ray's parentage would be something along the way of her being the offspring of one or more of Luke's original students. This would explain why she has such an aptitude for the Force, and why she was hidden away on Jakku after the purge.
Plus it would make for an interesting conversation between Ray and the Force Ghost of Luke. Because we know we haven't seen the last of him.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 17, 2017, 12:58:04 PM
Quote from: Guardian85 on December 16, 2017, 11:24:26 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 16, 2017, 01:03:17 PM

I'm a little disappointed that Rey's parents have no larger part in the story. If what Ren said was true, they sold her off for drinking money when she was little. It would have been interesting if she didn't have parents, and was some sort of physical manifestation of the Force (much like fatherless Anakin was?), brought to fulfill a prophecy and bring balance...again. I need someone to explain how she's so sensitive to the Force with Star Wars universe plausibility!   :no idea:
Throwing my 0.02$ in on this subject, I call bullshit on Kylo's claim that they were nobody. If we recall the force vision Ray had in Episode 7, where a young Ray is yelling at a ship while it's leaving, this does not match up with Kylo's story.
My personal pet theory regarding Ray's parentage would be something along the way of her being the offspring of one or more of Luke's original students. This would explain why she has such an aptitude for the Force, and why she was hidden away on Jakku after the purge.
Plus it would make for an interesting conversation between Ray and the Force Ghost of Luke. Because we know we haven't seen the last of him.

Yeah, I'm starting to remember that scene with the ship now.  :chin:

Perhaps the vision Kylo Ren had was given to him by Snoke for some reason (he said he was responsible for connecting their minds), though what that reason could be eludes me. Rey went into the dark hole looking for answers about her parents, giving someone a vision with an answer seems a little counter-productive if you want to bring someone to the dark side of the force. I didn't notice any indication that Rey knew the answer was fabricated.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 17, 2017, 10:28:13 PM
I've been thinking about the whole balance theme in this movie, and how Rey's 'light' balances out Kylo's 'dark' side of the force. If Kylo is destroyed, perhaps Rey will be too? :notsure:

Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on December 18, 2017, 02:34:25 PM
Overall, I liked the movie. though it felt like it was three separate movies combined into one. And not the "three different things going on at the same time" kind of three movies in one. It felt like it was a trilogy in itself.

Snoke might get his own movie, that would be cool.

I hope that the next movie is set several years after, like maybe a decade or so. That way both Ren and Rey have time to develop and the resistance can build itself back up too.

Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 17, 2017, 10:28:13 PM
I've been thinking about the whole balance theme in this movie, and how Rey's 'light' balances out Kylo's 'dark' side of the force. If Kylo is destroyed, perhaps Rey will be too? :notsure:
Doesn't need to be destroyed, she just needs to no do things to unbalance things. The dark side obviously can't be trusted to not unbalance things in their favor, but a good Jedi would be able to keep things balanced.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 21, 2017, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: Davin on December 18, 2017, 02:34:25 PM
Snoke might get his own movie, that would be cool.

I agree. I think Snoke needs his own movie at this point.  ;D

QuoteDoesn't need to be destroyed, she just needs to no do things to unbalance things. The dark side obviously can't be trusted to not unbalance things in their favor, but a good Jedi would be able to keep things balanced.

But is she a good Jedi? :notsure: She may be a natural Force-weilder, but she did go down that dark hole looking for answers. Was it a moment of weakness on her part though? I don't know. Probably too early to tell. She does need further development. :smilenod: 
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on December 21, 2017, 04:50:11 PM
Confronting the Dark Side is something that Luke did as well. It's apparently part of the training.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Biggus Dickus on December 21, 2017, 10:01:47 PM
Daughter and son-in-law are visiting for the holiday's this weekend so hopefully we all get to see the movie...I was going to go with my son last weekend, but my daughter said she wants to see it with me so I have to wait longer damnit!

Anyway I honestly think the Star Wars saga is just a story of three generations of people bullying C3PO ::)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 21, 2017, 10:06:05 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on December 21, 2017, 10:01:47 PM
Anyway I honestly think the Star Wars saga is just a story of three generations of people bullying C3PO ::)

They should be bullying Jar Jar instead, but thank Lucas he's long gone.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Biggus Dickus on December 21, 2017, 10:22:56 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 21, 2017, 10:06:05 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on December 21, 2017, 10:01:47 PM
Anyway I honestly think the Star Wars saga is just a story of three generations of people bullying C3PO ::)

They should be bullying Jar Jar instead, but thank Lucas he's long gone.

And the cute little Ewoks. :P
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 21, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: Davin on December 21, 2017, 04:50:11 PM
Confronting the Dark Side is something that Luke did as well. It's apparently part of the training.

:scratch: I need to watch the original trilogy again.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on December 22, 2017, 02:43:23 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 21, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: Davin on December 21, 2017, 04:50:11 PM
Confronting the Dark Side is something that Luke did as well. It's apparently part of the training.

:scratch: I need to watch the original trilogy again.
Evil Cave
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 22, 2017, 07:23:55 PM
Quote from: Davin on December 22, 2017, 02:43:23 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 21, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: Davin on December 21, 2017, 04:50:11 PM
Confronting the Dark Side is something that Luke did as well. It's apparently part of the training.

:scratch: I need to watch the original trilogy again.
Evil Cave


Thanks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 28, 2018, 01:02:11 PM
Han Solo...thoughts? :popcorn:

Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Davin on June 28, 2018, 04:14:14 PM
I liked it. It wasn't a great movie, but it was decent.

Felt like they could have paced it a bit better. Some places felt too rushed and others lingered too long.

Also, I think the time jumps could have helped out if used in different places. Like give the group some time to get to know each other to build some bonds, but it was like he went straight into the group and then they pretty much instantly became "friends" and got along. Didn't feel natural to me.

A few other things, it felt like they were just trying to plug up the holes in Han Solo's past with explanations like this was going to be the only film. Like, "whew, got that name thing in there, the Kessel run in parsecs cleared up... etc. now that takes care of every mention of Han Solo's past in all the other movies." But then set up the end for what looked like a sequel.

However, the banter was good, the Childish Gambino as Lando was genius casting, and it kept Han Solo's (and Lando's), character not too far off from what we see in the original trilogy.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tank on June 28, 2018, 05:42:39 PM
7.5 to 8/10 worth a watch.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 30, 2018, 03:03:35 PM
Quote from: Davin on June 28, 2018, 04:14:14 PM
Also, I think the time jumps could have helped out if used in different places. Like give the group some time to get to know each other to build some bonds, but it was like he went straight into the group and then they pretty much instantly became "friends" and got along. Didn't feel natural to me.

I agree. The instant friendship between Han Solo and Chewbacca also seemed rushed to me. Why would Chewbacca decide not to join the other Wookies he saved and instead stayed with Han Solo? There didn't seem any reason to other than Chewbacca developed some sort of man crush on Han...it just seemed underdeveloped. 

QuoteHowever, the banter was good, the Childish Gambino as Lando was genius casting, and it kept Han Solo's (and Lando's), character not too far off from what we see in the original trilogy.

Yes, Danny Glover was indeed perfect in the role, that guy is definitely multitalented.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.papelpop.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F05%2Fverdade_lando.gif&hash=de3be0077897c4929e83c7ced31019e04ffcd701)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 14, 2019, 01:33:28 PM
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on April 15, 2019, 01:59:35 PM
Reports on Galaxy's Edge and more:
http://www.animationmagazine.net/events/swcc-details-mandalorian-vader-immortal-galaxys-edge-force-for-change/ (http://www.animationmagazine.net/events/swcc-details-mandalorian-vader-immortal-galaxys-edge-force-for-change/)
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 22, 2019, 02:44:30 PM
Anyone watch the Rise of Skywalker yet? :popcorn:

I haven't... probably going to next weekend, just bumping this thread for now. :grin:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tank on December 22, 2019, 06:24:50 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 22, 2019, 02:44:30 PM
Anyone watch the Rise of Skywalker yet? :popcorn:

I haven't... probably going to next weekend, just bumping this thread for now. :grin:

Seen it.
Cried in it.
Loved it.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: No one on December 22, 2019, 07:21:15 PM
It wasn't the same after Spock died.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on December 22, 2019, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: No one on December 22, 2019, 07:21:15 PM
It wasn't the same after Spock died.

You are mixing galaxies again.  You know that can be destructive.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Magdalena on December 22, 2019, 10:46:28 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on December 22, 2019, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: No one on December 22, 2019, 07:21:15 PM
It wasn't the same after Spock died.

You are mixing galaxies again.  You know that can be destructive.
It's OK, billy rubin can let us stay here while the galaxies destroy each other:  :grin:
Quote from: billy rubin on December 22, 2019, 10:27:46 PM
it's not much. just an RV-size panel about one foot square hooked to a motorcycle battery. it keeps a single dim 12-volt light on in the chicken house so that the possums can see when they're stealing the chicken feed.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: billy rubin on December 22, 2019, 11:22:00 PM
bring your blankets. this time of year it can get pretty cold.

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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: No one on December 22, 2019, 11:43:24 PM
Thanks, but no thanks. I want absolutely nothing to do with the snow.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Magdalena on December 23, 2019, 12:59:06 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on June 30, 2018, 03:03:35 PM

Yes, Danny Glover was indeed perfect in the role, that guy is definitely multitalented.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.papelpop.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F05%2Fverdade_lando.gif&hash=de3be0077897c4929e83c7ced31019e04ffcd701)
Donald Glover, or Danny Glover?
(https://parade.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/DonaldDannyGlover-FTR.jpg)
:P
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: No one on December 23, 2019, 01:08:46 AM
One of them is too old for this shit.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 23, 2019, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on December 23, 2019, 12:59:06 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on June 30, 2018, 03:03:35 PM

Yes, Danny Glover was indeed perfect in the role, that guy is definitely multitalented.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.papelpop.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F05%2Fverdade_lando.gif&hash=de3be0077897c4929e83c7ced31019e04ffcd701)
Donald Glover, or Danny Glover?
(https://parade.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/DonaldDannyGlover-FTR.jpg)
:P

Whoops! Donald Glover! :P
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tom62 on December 25, 2019, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 22, 2019, 02:44:30 PM
Anyone watch the Rise of Skywalker yet? :popcorn:

I haven't... probably going to next weekend, just bumping this thread for now. :grin:

Saw it yesterday and was very disappointed.
Bad storytelling.
Cardboard characters.
Plot holes that are larger than imperial battlecruisers.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 25, 2019, 10:45:43 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on December 25, 2019, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 22, 2019, 02:44:30 PM
Anyone watch the Rise of Skywalker yet? :popcorn:

I haven't... probably going to next weekend, just bumping this thread for now. :grin:

Saw it yesterday and was very disappointed.
Bad storytelling.
Cardboard characters.
Plot holes that are larger than imperial battlecruisers.

That's too bad.  :( I haven't seen it yet so I can't give my opinion but I've been hearing some pretty bad reviews.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tank on December 26, 2019, 08:37:37 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 25, 2019, 10:45:43 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on December 25, 2019, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 22, 2019, 02:44:30 PM
Anyone watch the Rise of Skywalker yet? :popcorn:

I haven't... probably going to next weekend, just bumping this thread for now. :grin:

Saw it yesterday and was very disappointed.
Bad storytelling.
Cardboard characters.
Plot holes that are larger than imperial battlecruisers.

That's too bad.  :( I haven't seen it yet so I can't give my opinion but I've been hearing some pretty bad reviews.

A lot of people overthink Star Wars. And this film has 42 years of expectations weighing on its shoulders. Whatever happened in it it wasn't going to please all of the people all of the time. This is why I never watch trailers nor read reviews before I go and see a film. I loved it. And had tears on my cheeks more than once. The characters have always been stereotypes/archetypes but it's what you take to them that brings them to life. Don't overthink it, just go see it.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 26, 2019, 12:26:07 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 26, 2019, 08:37:37 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 25, 2019, 10:45:43 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on December 25, 2019, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 22, 2019, 02:44:30 PM
Anyone watch the Rise of Skywalker yet? :popcorn:

I haven't... probably going to next weekend, just bumping this thread for now. :grin:

Saw it yesterday and was very disappointed.
Bad storytelling.
Cardboard characters.
Plot holes that are larger than imperial battlecruisers.

That's too bad.  :( I haven't seen it yet so I can't give my opinion but I've been hearing some pretty bad reviews.

A lot of people overthink Star Wars. And this film has 42 years of expectations weighing on its shoulders. Whatever happened in it it wasn't going to please all of the people all of the time. This is why I never watch trailers nor read reviews before I go and see a film. I loved it. And had tears on my cheeks more than once. The characters have always been stereotypes/archetypes but it's what you take to them that brings them to life. Don't overthink it, just go see it.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: No one on December 26, 2019, 10:14:26 PM
Did Voldemort finally defeat the Cylons?
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tom62 on December 27, 2019, 04:50:09 AM
Quote from: No one on December 26, 2019, 10:14:26 PM
Did Voldemort finally defeat the Cylons?

Yes, he actually did(spoiler alert). Luckily the Borg and the Cybermen showed up later to terminate him.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: No one on December 27, 2019, 05:05:51 AM
Wait, so Voldemort is dead? Why didn't he use the TARDIS to escape?
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on December 27, 2019, 05:28:55 PM
Quote from: No one on December 27, 2019, 05:05:51 AM
Wait, so Voldemort is dead? Why didn't he use the TARDIS to escape?

Voldemort took the TARDIS through a Stargate and accidentally created a wormhole to Narnia. He lives there now with Marduk.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 28, 2019, 12:19:54 PM
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 28, 2019, 03:27:43 PM
There's a 99.78 percent chance I will watch Rise of Skywalker tonight.  :jumps:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tank on December 28, 2019, 08:22:05 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 28, 2019, 03:27:43 PM
There's a 99.78 percent chance I will watch Rise of Skywalker tonight.  :jumps:

Well did you?
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 29, 2019, 03:10:21 AM
Quote from: Tank on December 28, 2019, 08:22:05 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 28, 2019, 03:27:43 PM
There's a 99.78 percent chance I will watch Rise of Skywalker tonight.  :jumps:

Well did you?

I did, and honestly, I enjoyed it even if it was a little cliché at times. Even so, I did connect on some level to most of the characters. Star Wars is a fascinating franchise for its numerous underlying themes -- philosophical, social, religious...you start to pick these apart and you get way more than just a popcorn flick.   

I found myself thinking about some aspects of the movie hours after I had watched it. And not in disappointment, either.

Major SPOILER ahead!

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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tank on December 29, 2019, 09:40:11 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 29, 2019, 03:10:21 AM
Quote from: Tank on December 28, 2019, 08:22:05 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 28, 2019, 03:27:43 PM
There's a 99.78 percent chance I will watch Rise of Skywalker tonight.  :jumps:

Well did you?

I did, and honestly, I enjoyed it even if it was a little cliché at times. Even so, I did connect on some level to most of the characters. Star Wars is a fascinating franchise for its numerous underlying themes -- philosophical, social, religious...you start to pick these apart and you get way more than just a popcorn flick.   

I found myself thinking about some aspects of the movie hours after I had watched it. And not in disappointment, either.

Major SPOILER ahead!

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CRITICAL SPOILER!
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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Tom62 on December 29, 2019, 10:58:38 AM
On a scale from 0 to 10, I'd give the movie a 6+. The movie wants to please the fanbase so much, that it looses track of its own identity. The first part of the movie is rather rushed in a kind of desperate attempt to repair the damages made by the Last Jedi movie. The midsection of the movie shows some action sequences and acting that are pretty good. Especially Oscar Isaac (Poe), John Boyega (Finn) and Adam Driver (Kylo Ren) have grown more into their roles. Super Rey (Daisy Ridley) remains however the flat Mary Sue character that most Star Wars fans love to hate. But, at least this time we see her training for a couple of minutes with Leia. Final section is full of CGI action sequences. None of them have the same appeal as the ones in the original series. For example, the enemy fleet just fills up the sky, doing nothing else but being "sitting ducks". Rey of course beats Palpatine and everybody is happy (as long as they don't think to much about the plot holes, inconsistencies and too many questions that still remain open).  In general the movie is, at times, a decent thrill ride, and it provides us with some satisfying moments, but it fails to tell a compelling story.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 02, 2020, 02:31:29 AM
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 02, 2020, 09:18:03 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on December 29, 2019, 10:58:38 AM
On a scale from 0 to 10, I'd give the movie a 6+. The movie wants to please the fanbase so much, that it looses track of its own identity. The first part of the movie is rather rushed in a kind of desperate attempt to repair the damages made by the Last Jedi movie. The midsection of the movie shows some action sequences and acting that are pretty good. Especially Oscar Isaac (Poe), John Boyega (Finn) and Adam Driver (Kylo Ren) have grown more into their roles. Super Rey (Daisy Ridley) remains however the flat Mary Sue character that most Star Wars fans love to hate. But, at least this time we see her training for a couple of minutes with Leia. Final section is full of CGI action sequences. None of them have the same appeal as the ones in the original series. For example, the enemy fleet just fills up the sky, doing nothing else but being "sitting ducks". Rey of course beats Palpatine and everybody is happy (as long as they don't think to much about the plot holes, inconsistencies and too many questions that still remain open).  In general the movie is, at times, a decent thrill ride, and it provides us with some satisfying moments, but it fails to tell a compelling story.

Valid points.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 02, 2020, 09:26:06 PM
I just bought myself this book from Amazon:

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It might arrive just in time for my birthday.  :sidesmile:
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 13, 2020, 11:41:33 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on January 02, 2020, 09:26:06 PM
I just bought myself this book from Amazon:

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQSu8UYiHVt-XaekbRN-OEQVh96ydKk_XAJwnnBsokDI-3obkks)

It might arrive just in time for my birthday.  :sidesmile:

It has just arrived! And way eariler than expected, too. ;D
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on January 21, 2020, 08:11:12 PM
Star Wars... I might be into that...

Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Recusant on January 22, 2020, 12:21:37 AM
I'm taking it that you did the voice talking to the droid? If so, very cool, man!   :thumbsup:

Hope you're fully recovered from the bronchitis.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on January 22, 2020, 12:30:08 AM
Quote from: Recusant on January 22, 2020, 12:21:37 AM
I'm taking it that you did the voice talking to the droid? If so, very cool, man!   :thumbsup:

Hope you're fully recovered from the bronchitis.

Yeppers - I'm several voices on the ride!

Still hanging out with bronchitis. Might visit the doc tomorrow. Seems to be getting better, but way sloooooowwww.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Recusant on January 22, 2020, 12:35:24 AM
I was pretty sure I recognized your voice, but it's hard for me to be sure--you're good at what you do.  :)

As for the visit to the doc, don't mess around, if in doubt. If there's pneumonia, best get on top of it.
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: joeactor on January 22, 2020, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: Recusant on January 22, 2020, 12:35:24 AM
I was pretty sure I recognized your voice, but it's hard for me to be sure--you're good at what you do.  :)

As for the visit to the doc, don't mess around, if in doubt. If there's pneumonia, best get on top of it.

Point taken - Went to urgent care. Flonase and Antibiotics. Something's bugging me, and I'm gonna bug it back!
(thanks for the concern ;-) )
Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: No one on January 27, 2020, 07:45:24 AM
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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: Siz on January 27, 2020, 08:02:04 AM
Quote from: No one on January 27, 2020, 07:45:24 AM
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Title: Re: Talk About Star Wars With All the Spoilers You Want
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 27, 2020, 01:03:29 PM
Quote from: No one on January 27, 2020, 07:45:24 AM
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:this: is true.