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Community => Parenting Beyond Belief => Topic started by: SisterAgatha on January 11, 2018, 03:58:49 PM

Title: Harry Potter Books
Post by: SisterAgatha on January 11, 2018, 03:58:49 PM
Are Harry Potter books good for children in your opinion?
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: No one on January 11, 2018, 04:07:13 PM
Yes, they have plenty of fiber, which is good for the littlins.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Magdalena on January 11, 2018, 04:16:22 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on January 11, 2018, 03:58:49 PM
Are Harry Potter books good for children in your opinion?
What's your opinion, Agatha?
Can't call you, "sister" anymore.
You're not a sister and you're not my sister.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: No one on January 11, 2018, 04:19:21 PM
Humans are all brothers and sisters, raps.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Magdalena on January 11, 2018, 04:23:08 PM
Quote from: No one on January 11, 2018, 04:19:21 PM
Humans are all brothers and sisters, raps.
Some are stepbrothers and stepsisters.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Dave on January 11, 2018, 04:27:08 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on January 11, 2018, 04:23:08 PM
Quote from: No one on January 11, 2018, 04:19:21 PM
Humans are all brothers and sisters, raps.
Some are stepbrothers and stepsisters.  :eyeroll:

Or sisters and brothers-in-law.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Magdalena on January 11, 2018, 04:53:23 PM
Quote from: Dave on January 11, 2018, 04:27:08 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on January 11, 2018, 04:23:08 PM
Quote from: No one on January 11, 2018, 04:19:21 PM
Humans are all brothers and sisters, raps.
Some are stepbrothers and stepsisters.  :eyeroll:

Or sisters and brothers-in-law.

Or blood brothers or blood sisters.
QuoteA man [or woman] who has sworn to treat another man as a brother, sometimes with a ceremonial mingling of blood.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 11, 2018, 06:20:38 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on January 11, 2018, 03:58:49 PM
Are Harry Potter books good for children in your opinion?

Why wouldn't they be good? Because they're fictional books that deal with magic, wizards and witches?  :fingertap:

Would you rather they read a fictional Book that deals with worse?
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Dave on January 11, 2018, 06:53:32 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on January 11, 2018, 06:20:38 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on January 11, 2018, 03:58:49 PM
Are Harry Potter books good for children in your opinion?

Why wouldn't they be good? Because they're fictional books that deal with magic, wizards and witches?  :fingertap:

Would you rather they read a fictional Book that deals with worse?

Yes, far better a best selling series of well written books of fantasy that I have not heard of being forced on kids and causing them psychological problems than a single book of fantasy that some claim to be true.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: SisterAgatha on January 19, 2018, 08:22:25 PM
I was just kidding.

Those books were great, and they were inspired by the 1958 novel, the Once and Future King!
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Magdalena on January 19, 2018, 08:50:39 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on January 19, 2018, 08:22:25 PM
I was just kidding.

Those books were great, and they were inspired by the 1958 novel, the Once and Future King!
Are you serious? You're using the, "I was just kidding" 'card' again!?

:smileshake: ~Pathetic.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 20, 2018, 04:06:28 PM
Just an observation after the fact, I really hope SisterAgatha seeks professional help. I don't know what underlying issues her pathological lying stems from, but it just isn't normal to want to lie to people and then retract statements with "Oh, I was only joking!" over and over again.  ::)
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Dragonia on January 20, 2018, 06:41:53 PM
So basically, to sum up everything sister Agatha has ever posted..... it all means nothing, none of it is true, joke's on us.

It's why I won't waste my very limited time and posts responding to anything she says any more.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Dragonia on January 20, 2018, 06:53:26 PM
Oh, well nevermind. I just saw that Crazy Agatha has been banned..... :cthulhu:
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Dave on January 20, 2018, 07:27:31 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on January 19, 2018, 08:22:25 PM
I was just kidding.

Those books were great, and they were inspired by the 1958 novel, the Once and Future King!

That, if true, is interesting, I read that book when it first came out. Timeless stuff. Would need to read it again to find any obvious links. The Disney cartoon version was great as well!

Has Aggie been banned? Damn, have to find another target to vent my spleen on then...
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Davin on January 22, 2018, 02:15:33 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on January 20, 2018, 04:06:28 PM
Just an observation after the fact, I really hope SisterAgatha seeks professional help. I don't know what underlying issues her pathological lying stems from, but it just isn't normal to want to lie to people and then retract statements with "Oh, I was only joking!" over and over again.  ::)
Therapy is needed. The idea that people will react to things said seems like magic to trolls because of their limited view point and understanding. To those with knowledge and experience, we understand society better, which is why trolls are boring and tedious. It's like watching a toddler learn that crayons mark colors on things, then going around and drawing on every surface they can find and then feeling proud that they made a responsible person come around and clean it all up. Dealing with trolls is like dealing with misbehaving toddlers.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Dragonia on January 22, 2018, 08:11:43 PM
Yeah, I've had my lifetime share of misbehaving toddlers.
I guess that's why I find the Agathas of the world so exhausting. 
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Sandra Craft on January 23, 2018, 12:58:38 AM
To get off tangent, I tried reading the first HP book but found it too juvenile for my taste and, based on that, I ignored all the movies too.  But last night, for lack of anything better to do, I watched HPs 1 and 2 and kind of enjoyed them.  Admittedly mostly the parts with Snape (my heart still bleeds over Alan Rickman) but overall they're completely watchable and I'm going to finish this movie series.  I think there are 8 of them?
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 23, 2018, 10:50:52 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on January 23, 2018, 12:58:38 AM
To get off tangent, I tried reading the first HP book but found it too juvenile for my taste and, based on that, I ignored all the movies too.  But last night, for lack of anything better to do, I watched HPs 1 and 2 and kind of enjoyed them.  Admittedly mostly the parts with Snape (my heart still bleeds over Alan Rickman) but overall they're completely watchable and I'm going to finish this movie series.  I think there are 8 of them?

7 books, 8 movies (I think the last one was split into parts one and two).

When I read them I also thought they were too juvenile but that's because the first ones are. They do get more mature themes as the series advances, as if J.K Rowling was writing primarily for an audience that was growing up along with the young characters. The last ones deal a lot with the topic of death, for instance.

All in all I enjoyed them. I read them out of order though, with the third book being my first because it was given to me as a Christmas gift and I decided to give it a try. If I hadn't liked it so much it would have been difficult to finish books 1 and 2 as I was already around 16 at the time. On the plus side they are extremely easy reading, and can be finished in no time.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Dave on January 23, 2018, 11:26:56 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on January 23, 2018, 10:50:52 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on January 23, 2018, 12:58:38 AM
To get off tangent, I tried reading the first HP book but found it too juvenile for my taste and, based on that, I ignored all the movies too.  But last night, for lack of anything better to do, I watched HPs 1 and 2 and kind of enjoyed them.  Admittedly mostly the parts with Snape (my heart still bleeds over Alan Rickman) but overall they're completely watchable and I'm going to finish this movie series.  I think there are 8 of them?

7 books, 8 movies (I think the last one was split into parts one and two).

When I read them I also thought they were too juvenile but that's because the first ones are. They do get more mature themes as the series advances, as if J.K Rowling was writing primarily for an audience that was growing up along with the young characters. The last ones deal a lot with the topic of death, for instance.

All in all I enjoyed them. I read them out of order though, with the third book being my first because it was given to me as a Christmas gift and I decided to give it a try. If I hadn't liked it so much it would have been difficult to finish books 1 and 2 as I was already around 16 at the time. On the plus side they are extremely easy reading, and can be finished in no time.

I also think they are written in excellent English . . . Well, the English editions anyway!

Whilst running the local Oxfam book depot we were donated the then complete series in Russian, twice(?).We were not sure what to do with them until the manager of the Cheltengam branch visited and saw them. And grabbed them immediately. Seems he did a roaring trade selling foreign language books, especially novels, to the spooks at GCHQ. They used them to top up their colloquial language skills. They sold within a couple of days.

My sci-fi reading started with Dan Dare in "The Eagle" comic (best comic ever for a mix of fiction, fact, history etc). But my first books were the "Kemlo" series about early teenagers on a space station. A few years ago I found a copy of "Kemlo and the Star Men" and spent my mad money on it. Similar structure; obviously aimed at pre/early teenage kids (I was 10 when I first read them), excellent use of English and some adult themes. Also loads of moral decisions and ethical behaviour.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Books
Post by: Skeptik on February 14, 2018, 05:12:46 AM
They're a hell of a lot better for children than that other magic book that's so popular.
Mainly because we don't teach them from birth that Harry Potter is real.