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Started by allymadrunner, March 06, 2012, 02:06:11 AM

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allymadrunner

I stumbled across this interesting corner of the internet and it looks like there is a lot of good debate and discussion on here.

I'm originally from Scotland in the UK and like most other Scottish school children, I was taught about Christianity as if it was the accepted, normal thing and that there wasn't much need for a discussion,I was even Christened (something I'll never forgive my parents for!). I probably started questioning the existance of God at the age of about 12, and by my mid-teens I could not believe that seemingly sensible people were still taking religious teachings seriously.

I personally believe that the UK is extremely tolerant of atheists and is a largely secular state, the funding of faith based schools being a notable abboration however. I have noticed that this does not seem to be the case in the USA where there seems to be a far greater degree of persecution. I generally have a belief of: "Believe what you want", but after hearing some of the garbage spoken about atheists in other parts of the world, it makes my blood boil.

Anyway, thats enough self indulgence, I look forward to some interesting debates.

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Quote from: allymadrunner on March 06, 2012, 02:06:11 AMit makes my blood boil.

Ye it can do that, I try to keep it to a slow simmer most of the time.

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welcome to the forum Ally, there are plenty of us Brits here (assuming you consider yourself as a Brit and not just a Scot  ;))
I know where you're coming from with the Christening thing, I can't believe my parents were so stupid as to Christen me. I just hope I gave the vicar a very evil stare as he poured water over my little head.

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Quote from: allymadrunner on March 06, 2012, 02:06:11 AM
I stumbled across this interesting corner of the internet and it looks like there is a lot of good debate and discussion on here.

I'm originally from Scotland in the UK and like most other Scottish school children, I was taught about Christianity as if it was the accepted, normal thing and that there wasn't much need for a discussion,I was even Christened (something I'll never forgive my parents for!). I probably started questioning the existance of God at the age of about 12, and by my mid-teens I could not believe that seemingly sensible people were still taking religious teachings seriously.

I personally believe that the UK is extremely tolerant of atheists and is a largely secular state, the funding of faith based schools being a notable abboration however. I have noticed that this does not seem to be the case in the USA where there seems to be a far greater degree of persecution. I generally have a belief of: "Believe what you want", but after hearing some of the garbage spoken about atheists in other parts of the world, it makes my blood boil.

Anyway, thats enough self indulgence, I look forward to some interesting debates.
Welcome to the forum! you are completely right about the U.S. Atheists such as myself are pretty descriminated against.  In the south I have to hear BS about god all day every day, yet when I mention one thing about not believing I get the head shake, or I'll pray for you.  That is one subject I will argue about no matter what.  Don't push that crap off on me just bc you have been brainwashed!
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Quote from: allymadrunner on March 06, 2012, 02:06:11 AM
I was even Christened (something I'll never forgive my parents for!).

It beats being circumcised!

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QuoteI was even Christened (something I'll never forgive my parents for!
same here, someting all children of orthodox christians have to suffer
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Quote from: MariaEvri on March 17, 2012, 02:43:07 PM
QuoteI was even Christened (something I'll never forgive my parents for!
same here, someting all children of orthodox christians have to suffer
welcome

I was Christened and didn't suffer the slightest from it. Maybe your vicar was doing it wrong to make it so painful for you...! Or maybe you're all overreacting...

Just sayin'...

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Welcome! Debates do break out around here from time to time.  :)

I was christened and it doesn't bother me much now. It was kind of silly, but no lasting damage.

That cross tattoo I got when I was 18, though. I'd like to get that covered up sometime.
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Quote from: Crocoduck on March 07, 2012, 05:20:58 PM
Quote from: allymadrunner on March 06, 2012, 02:06:11 AM
I was even Christened (something I'll never forgive my parents for!).

It beats being circumcised!

First of all welcome to HAF.

Thank you Croco for reminding me about my mutilated penis... I'm very resentful my mother thought it was a good idea to slice my foreskin, peel it back, and reattach it. I can't help but hold it against my family. I think this is the first time my blood has started boiling on the introductions board  :(
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