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Title: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 06:19:11 AM
So as not to dwell too much on my impending hip replacement, I have found a way to distract myself. I've started playing with ways to use the HAF fish emblem or logo to make objects. Here are some examples:

Earring in gold. Could perhaps be a bit smaller for daytime wear.
(https://i.imgur.com/pPQUfq8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9RyVK77.jpg)

With diamond eye
(https://i.imgur.com/BhMoZHS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RZ5gNX1.jpg)

Pin in silver.
(https://i.imgur.com/A6EgU22.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/brCclHT.jpg)
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: jumbojak on May 03, 2018, 01:09:07 PM
Would you use a cage on the backing pun to maintain the dicontinuous appearance?
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 01:38:32 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on May 03, 2018, 01:09:07 PM
Would you use a cage on the backing pun to maintain the dicontinuous appearance?

This is usually the first, concept stage when I design stuff, just to get the look right. Then after that I would work out the practical construction details. This is just me playing around - not really a serious attempt to design anything practical. The eye would present a major challenge to maintain the "floating" look if I had to make a real pin.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Dave on May 03, 2018, 01:56:24 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 01:38:32 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on May 03, 2018, 01:09:07 PM
Would you use a cage on the backing pun to maintain the dicontinuous appearance?

This is usually the first, concept stage when I design stuff, just to get the look right. Then after that I would work out the practical construction details. This is just me playing around - not really a serious attempt to design anything practical. The eye would present a major challenge to maintain the "floating" look if I had to make a real pin.

Yeah, things like that eye are a real pain! I have resorted to fine, slightly random, wires from a "pupil" to an "orbit" as supports. Can look weird though!

Won't work here anyway, no orbit.

Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 02:09:38 PM
Quote from: Dave on May 03, 2018, 01:56:24 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 01:38:32 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on May 03, 2018, 01:09:07 PM
Would you use a cage on the backing pun to maintain the dicontinuous appearance?

This is usually the first, concept stage when I design stuff, just to get the look right. Then after that I would work out the practical construction details. This is just me playing around - not really a serious attempt to design anything practical. The eye would present a major challenge to maintain the "floating" look if I had to make a real pin.

Yeah, things like that eye are a real pain! I have resorted to fine, slightly random, wires from a "pupil" to an "orbit" as supports. Can look weird though!

Won't work here anyway, no orbit.

If I were to actually make this as a piece of jewellery, I would consider a backing of a thin sheet of ruby sapphire. I played with rods of this amazing stuff when I was making jewellery as a hobby. It looks like colourless glass, but I could heat it to white hot in a torch without melting it.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:10:01 PM
Would the fishy earring look better dangling on some links?
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:14:21 PM
These are the voyages of the web forum HAF

(https://i.imgur.com/A6EgU22.jpg)
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 02:18:09 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:10:01 PM
Would the fishy earring look better dangling on some links?

Yes, that would be a possibility. That's the beauty of using a program like Cinema 4D to design things. It is so easy to try out ideas and then render them photo-realistically. Like this bit of surreal craziness:
(https://i.imgur.com/2pxXEop.jpg)
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:27:16 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 02:18:09 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:10:01 PM
Would the fishy earring look better dangling on some links?

Yes, that would be a possibility. That's the beauty of using a program like Cinema 4D to design things. It is so easy to try out ideas and then render them photo-realistically. Like this bit of surreal craziness:
(https://i.imgur.com/2pxXEop.jpg)

The shadows are a bit free range.

Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Dave on May 03, 2018, 02:33:14 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:27:16 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 02:18:09 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:10:01 PM
Would the fishy earring look better dangling on some links?

Yes, that would be a possibility. That's the beauty of using a program like Cinema 4D to design things. It is so easy to try out ideas and then render them photo-realistically. Like this bit of surreal craziness:
(https://i.imgur.com/2pxXEop.jpg)

The shadows are a bit free range.

All part of the surreality!

Excellent, Hermes!

Going back one, can't find "ruby ssphire" as a material on Google - liads of Pokermon stuff though.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Arturo on May 03, 2018, 02:33:57 PM
Is it just me or did anyone else notice that there are floating parts of the logo that wouldn't be practical in real life?
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 02:39:39 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:27:16 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 02:18:09 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:10:01 PM
Would the fishy earring look better dangling on some links?

Yes, that would be a possibility. That's the beauty of using a program like Cinema 4D to design things. It is so easy to try out ideas and then render them photo-realistically. Like this bit of surreal craziness:

The shadows are a bit free range.

Yes, the reason is that I was using a single light source, not global illumination, to save render time. I usually do that when I am trying out different things and want a fast result. Render times with global illumination are much longer. I will do one to show the difference.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Dave on May 03, 2018, 02:46:15 PM
Quote from: Arturo on May 03, 2018, 02:33:57 PM
Is it just me or did anyone else notice that there are floating parts of the logo that wouldn't be practical in real life?

Er, Artuto, "surreal" sort of means "bizarre" - it needs no connection to reality, that is the very essence of that school of art. Look up Salvador Dali!
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: Arturo on May 03, 2018, 02:33:57 PM
Is it just me or did anyone else notice that there are floating parts of the logo that wouldn't be practical in real life?

The HAF logo evolved to have a free floating eye.
Give it another million years and most logos will probably have one.
There's no doubt that logos with a floating eye have evolved revolving around other stars .
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 02:58:02 PM
I am planning to make some more bizarre variations that will be even further disconnected from reality.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 03:47:55 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 02:39:39 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:27:16 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 02:18:09 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:10:01 PM
Would the fishy earring look better dangling on some links?

Yes, that would be a possibility. That's the beauty of using a program like Cinema 4D to design things. It is so easy to try out ideas and then render them photo-realistically. Like this bit of surreal craziness:

The shadows are a bit free range.

Yes, the reason is that I was using a single light source, not global illumination, to save render time. I usually do that when I am trying out different things and want a fast result. Render times with global illumination are much longer. I will do one to show the difference.

One can obviously spend a long time tweaking the render, but this is just to show what a difference global illumination can make. Here I'm using the natural light coming in through a window. The shadows are much softer and more natural. The down side is that the rendering time was almost 10 minutes, while the earlier one took about 11 seconds.

(https://i.imgur.com/1l2yMfQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Arturo on May 03, 2018, 03:54:46 PM
Quote from: Dave on May 03, 2018, 02:46:15 PM
Quote from: Arturo on May 03, 2018, 02:33:57 PM
Is it just me or did anyone else notice that there are floating parts of the logo that wouldn't be practical in real life?

Er, Artuto, "surreal" sort of means "bizarre" - it needs no connection to reality, that is the very essence of that school of art. Look up Salvador Dali!

Technically the ear rings can be done if they are held together by a clear pane. Maybe the same with the pendant. The needle would have to be part of the eye to be uh...unnoticed. But this pen holding thing? Why not just use a coffee mug? BAH
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 04:16:45 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 03:47:55 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 02:39:39 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:27:16 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 02:18:09 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 03, 2018, 02:10:01 PM
Would the fishy earring look better dangling on some links?

Yes, that would be a possibility. That's the beauty of using a program like Cinema 4D to design things. It is so easy to try out ideas and then render them photo-realistically. Like this bit of surreal craziness:

The shadows are a bit free range.

Yes, the reason is that I was using a single light source, not global illumination, to save render time. I usually do that when I am trying out different things and want a fast result. Render times with global illumination are much longer. I will do one to show the difference.

One can obviously spend a long time tweaking the render, but this is just to show what a difference global illumination can make. Here I'm using the natural light coming in through a window. The shadows are much softer and more natural. The down side is that the rendering time was almost 10 minutes, while the earlier one took about 11 seconds.

(https://i.imgur.com/1l2yMfQ.jpg)

I acquiesced to  the claim "the pen is mightier than the sword"
Who likes swords? I don't know any swords.
But that pen's attempt to dominate the fork...
It's wrong, you have to call out this shit when you see it.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Tank on May 03, 2018, 04:26:38 PM
Wow! Loving your work.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 03, 2018, 04:40:59 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 03, 2018, 04:26:38 PM
Wow! Loving your work.

Thank you, Tank, that's very kind. I'm just playing, trying to keep my mind off things.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Tank on May 04, 2018, 08:33:25 AM
Would you do a selection of .png's on transparent backgrounds please?
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 04, 2018, 11:14:02 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 04, 2018, 08:33:25 AM
Would you do a selection of .png's on transparent backgrounds please?

Do you need them of the HAF emblem?
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Tank on May 04, 2018, 11:20:47 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 04, 2018, 11:14:02 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 04, 2018, 08:33:25 AM
Would you do a selection of .png's on transparent backgrounds please?

Do you need them of the HAF emblem?
Yes please.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 04, 2018, 11:28:54 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 04, 2018, 08:33:25 AM
Would you do a selection of .png's on transparent backgrounds please?

Will it be OK like this one in black, but with the background transparent?

(https://i.imgur.com/NHoO3tc.jpg)
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Tank on May 04, 2018, 11:51:43 AM
Perfect!
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 04, 2018, 01:09:13 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 04, 2018, 11:51:43 AM
Perfect!

I've left it uncompressed to maintain the quality, so it's 17MB. Let me know if you want me to make it smaller.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14b5lLiPYTMX-fw2ptT_aOE-pnLguWoGe/view?usp=sharing

Hope it works for you.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Tank on May 04, 2018, 08:23:30 PM
It looks perfect
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Dave on May 04, 2018, 08:48:04 PM
That's interesting, it comes up as black on very dark grey on my Android tablet! Thought it wasn't there ar all for a moment.

Must play with it, - tomorrow, too late now.

Well, I did download it - then it changes to mid grey on almost black. Ooer.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Recusant on May 04, 2018, 11:11:49 PM
I just spotted the fish on the fork handle. A great subtle detail.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 04:45:34 AM
Quote from: Dave on May 04, 2018, 08:48:04 PM
That's interesting, it comes up as black on very dark grey on my Android tablet! Thought it wasn't there ar all for a moment.

Must play with it, - tomorrow, too late now.

Well, I did download it - then it changes to mid grey on almost black. Ooer.

That's because it is a PNG image, with black lines on a transparent background, as requested by my client Tank. It is intended to be pasted it over an existing image to see it properly. I will do one in red, so you should be able to see it.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 05:17:18 AM
Quote from: Dave on May 04, 2018, 08:48:04 PM
That's interesting, it comes up as black on very dark grey on my Android tablet! Thought it wasn't there ar all for a moment.

Must play with it, - tomorrow, too late now.

Well, I did download it - then it changes to mid grey on almost black. Ooer.

Try the red one:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lPWoBAxVwLQEe0BMQmyV6SNOafa9bUB-/view?usp=sharing

I compressed this file, so it's much smaller.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 05:22:28 AM
Quote from: Recusant on May 04, 2018, 11:11:49 PM
I just spotted the fish on the fork handle. A great subtle detail.  :thumbsup:

The emblem is engraved into the handle.

(https://i.imgur.com/k1dsceU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yaYqnFL.png)
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:14:39 AM
Can we have a rainbow one please?

And I think we'll name our logo 'Rosy' after Tiktaalik roseae: An Extraordinary Fossil Fish (https://tiktaalik.uchicago.edu/meetTik.html)

So we need a Rainbow Rosy :)
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 07:19:21 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:14:39 AM
Can we have a rainbow one please?

And I think we'll name our logo 'Rosy' after after Tiktaalik roseae: An Extraordinary Fossil Fish (https://tiktaalik.uchicago.edu/meetTik.html)

I like "Rosy". There are so many possibilities for a rainbow PNG; do you have any examples you like? These came up in a Google search.

https://www.google.com/search?q=images+rainbow&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiPw4Cq9u3aAhUGvxQKHQy-AwAQ7AkIQQ&biw=1920&bih=956
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:22:05 AM
I was thinking of making Rosy a rainbow on a clear background rather than a rainbow background. Does that make sense?
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:23:47 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 05:17:18 AM
Quote from: Dave on May 04, 2018, 08:48:04 PM
That's interesting, it comes up as black on very dark grey on my Android tablet! Thought it wasn't there ar all for a moment.

Must play with it, - tomorrow, too late now.

Well, I did download it - then it changes to mid grey on almost black. Ooer.

Try the red one:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lPWoBAxVwLQEe0BMQmyV6SNOafa9bUB-/view?usp=sharing

I compressed this file, so it's much smaller.

That's a lot better size wise. Could we have a compressed black one please?
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 07:28:51 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:22:05 AM
I was thinking of making Rosy a rainbow on a clear background rather than a rainbow background. Does that make sense?

You mean the lines of the current image filled in with rainbow colours? Perhaps you could do a rough sketch to show me.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Magdalena on May 05, 2018, 07:30:10 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 05:22:28 AM
Quote from: Recusant on May 04, 2018, 11:11:49 PM
I just spotted the fish on the fork handle. A great subtle detail.  :thumbsup:

The emblem is engraved into the handle.

(https://i.imgur.com/k1dsceU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yaYqnFL.png)
hermes2015, I agree with Recusant, you have captured the, "subtle detail," but will you be able to capture the, "member"s 'essence'" the way BP does? You know, that one thing...Bruce's halo, BCE's cat, my,  psychedelic spoon, etc., or will you work with BP, because he has done a great job so far.  :smilenod:

:notsure: Maybe Dragonia doesn't agree with me, but that's OK.

BP, Marvin, The Magic Pudding, etc., they are (he is) a loved and respected dinosaur, here. :grin:

I"m just saying.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 07:40:32 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:23:47 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 05:17:18 AM
Quote from: Dave on May 04, 2018, 08:48:04 PM
That's interesting, it comes up as black on very dark grey on my Android tablet! Thought it wasn't there ar all for a moment.

Must play with it, - tomorrow, too late now.

Well, I did download it - then it changes to mid grey on almost black. Ooer.

Try the red one:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lPWoBAxVwLQEe0BMQmyV6SNOafa9bUB-/view?usp=sharing

I compressed this file, so it's much smaller.

That's a lot better size wise. Could we have a compressed black one please?

This is much smaller.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WgX2sYPoBC4CJoz3VfQjtOjpxUVrl_Cv/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:56:57 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 07:28:51 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:22:05 AM
I was thinking of making Rosy a rainbow on a clear background rather than a rainbow background. Does that make sense?

You mean the lines of the current image filled in with rainbow colours? Perhaps you could do a rough sketch to show me.
That's exactly what I mean. The current black/red logo done in a rainbow.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 07:59:13 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:56:57 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 07:28:51 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:22:05 AM
I was thinking of making Rosy a rainbow on a clear background rather than a rainbow background. Does that make sense?

You mean the lines of the current image filled in with rainbow colours? Perhaps you could do a rough sketch to show me.
That's exactly what I mean. The current black/red logo done in a rainbow.

OK, I will give it a shot.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:59:20 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 07:40:32 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:23:47 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 05:17:18 AM
Quote from: Dave on May 04, 2018, 08:48:04 PM
That's interesting, it comes up as black on very dark grey on my Android tablet! Thought it wasn't there ar all for a moment.

Must play with it, - tomorrow, too late now.

Well, I did download it - then it changes to mid grey on almost black. Ooer.

Try the red one:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lPWoBAxVwLQEe0BMQmyV6SNOafa9bUB-/view?usp=sharing

I compressed this file, so it's much smaller.

That's a lot better size wise. Could we have a compressed black one please?

This is much smaller.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WgX2sYPoBC4CJoz3VfQjtOjpxUVrl_Cv/view?usp=sharing

Spot on!
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Bad Penny II on May 05, 2018, 11:20:15 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on May 05, 2018, 07:30:10 AM
hermes2015, I agree with Recusant, you have captured the, "subtle detail," but will you be able to capture the, "member"s 'essence'" the way BP does? You know, that one thing...Bruce's halo, BCE's cat, my,  psychedelic spoon, etc., or will you work with BP, because he has done a great job so far.  :smilenod:

I"m just saying.


No I don't think that's viable,
I'm seething with resentment,
ready to fork or spoon his eyes out.
Please don't tell him or anyone though.
It's not really true, just joking,,, mostly.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 11:30:18 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on May 05, 2018, 07:30:10 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 05:22:28 AM
Quote from: Recusant on May 04, 2018, 11:11:49 PM
I just spotted the fish on the fork handle. A great subtle detail.  :thumbsup:

The emblem is engraved into the handle.

hermes2015, I agree with Recusant, you have captured the, "subtle detail," but will you be able to capture the, "member"s 'essence'" the way BP does? You know, that one thing...Bruce's halo, BCE's cat, my,  psychedelic spoon, etc., or will you work with BP, because he has done a great job so far.  :smilenod:

:notsure: Maybe Dragonia doesn't agree with me, but that's OK.

BP, Marvin, The Magic Pudding, etc., they are (he is) a loved and respected dinosaur, here. :grin:

I"m just saying.

No, no. Please don't see this as a "competition". I wouldn't dream of even trying to do anything in Bad Penny's class, let alone to usurp his role as cutlery creator at HAF. I don't have the creative imagination to make cutlery for HAF members - I know my limitations. What I'm doing is simply using the HAF emblem to improve my 3D skills in an attempt to take my mind off the hip replacement due at the end of May.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 11:37:02 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:56:57 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 07:28:51 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:22:05 AM
I was thinking of making Rosy a rainbow on a clear background rather than a rainbow background. Does that make sense?

You mean the lines of the current image filled in with rainbow colours? Perhaps you could do a rough sketch to show me.
That's exactly what I mean. The current black/red logo done in a rainbow.

Here is an attempt. Not sure how successfully it will scale down to a small image, though. It may end up looking too busy.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VkKP2fc2F6nnt82gRvXwBlw1nw6jiiPa/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 12:35:04 PM
I've been playing with animations of the HAF emblem as well.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-EH_F0bDTHVCz1M0xPHT59i4swMNW6oY/view?usp=sharing

I can't figure out how to display an MP4 movie in a message here.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Bad Penny II on May 05, 2018, 12:36:02 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 11:30:18 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on May 05, 2018, 07:30:10 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 05:22:28 AM
Quote from: Recusant on May 04, 2018, 11:11:49 PM
I just spotted the fish on the fork handle. A great subtle detail.  :thumbsup:

The emblem is engraved into the handle.

hermes2015, I agree with Recusant, you have captured the, "subtle detail," but will you be able to capture the, "member"s 'essence'" the way BP does? You know, that one thing...Bruce's halo, BCE's cat, my,  psychedelic spoon, etc., or will you work with BP, because he has done a great job so far.  :smilenod:

:notsure: Maybe Dragonia doesn't agree with me, but that's OK.

BP, Marvin, The Magic Pudding, etc., they are (he is) a loved and respected dinosaur, here. :grin:

I"m just saying.

No, no. Please don't see this as a "competition". I wouldn't dream of even trying to do anything in Bad Penny's class, let alone to usurp his role as cutlery creator at HAF. I don't have the creative imagination to make cutlery for HAF members - I know my limitations. What I'm doing is simply using the HAF emblem to improve my 3D skills in an attempt to take my mind off the hip replacement due at the end of May.

I suppose you're being sufficiently obsequious.
JJ needs new cutlery.
Possibly forge related.
He's trying to make cheese.
The photo comp needs a trophy.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 12:44:04 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 05, 2018, 12:36:02 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 11:30:18 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on May 05, 2018, 07:30:10 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 05:22:28 AM
Quote from: Recusant on May 04, 2018, 11:11:49 PM
I just spotted the fish on the fork handle. A great subtle detail.  :thumbsup:

The emblem is engraved into the handle.

hermes2015, I agree with Recusant, you have captured the, "subtle detail," but will you be able to capture the, "member"s 'essence'" the way BP does? You know, that one thing...Bruce's halo, BCE's cat, my,  psychedelic spoon, etc., or will you work with BP, because he has done a great job so far.  :smilenod:

:notsure: Maybe Dragonia doesn't agree with me, but that's OK.

BP, Marvin, The Magic Pudding, etc., they are (he is) a loved and respected dinosaur, here. :grin:

I"m just saying.

No, no. Please don't see this as a "competition". I wouldn't dream of even trying to do anything in Bad Penny's class, let alone to usurp his role as cutlery creator at HAF. I don't have the creative imagination to make cutlery for HAF members - I know my limitations. What I'm doing is simply using the HAF emblem to improve my 3D skills in an attempt to take my mind off the hip replacement due at the end of May.

I suppose you're being sufficiently obsequious.
JJ needs new cutlery.
Possibly forge related.
He's trying to make cheese.
The photo comp needs a trophy.

I thought I would do a bit of forelock touching. It has always stood me in good stead.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Bad Penny II on May 05, 2018, 12:57:43 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 12:44:04 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 05, 2018, 12:36:02 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 11:30:18 AM
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Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 05:22:28 AM
Quote from: Recusant on May 04, 2018, 11:11:49 PM
I just spotted the fish on the fork handle. A great subtle detail.  :thumbsup:

The emblem is engraved into the handle.

hermes2015, I agree with Recusant, you have captured the, "subtle detail," but will you be able to capture the, "member"s 'essence'" the way BP does? You know, that one thing...Bruce's halo, BCE's cat, my,  psychedelic spoon, etc., or will you work with BP, because he has done a great job so far.  :smilenod:

:notsure: Maybe Dragonia doesn't agree with me, but that's OK.

BP, Marvin, The Magic Pudding, etc., they are (he is) a loved and respected dinosaur, here. :grin:

I"m just saying.

No, no. Please don't see this as a "competition". I wouldn't dream of even trying to do anything in Bad Penny's class, let alone to usurp his role as cutlery creator at HAF. I don't have the creative imagination to make cutlery for HAF members - I know my limitations. What I'm doing is simply using the HAF emblem to improve my 3D skills in an attempt to take my mind off the hip replacement due at the end of May.

I suppose you're being sufficiently obsequious.
JJ needs new cutlery.
Possibly forge related.
He's trying to make cheese.
The photo comp needs a trophy.

I thought I would do a bit of forelock touching. It has always stood me in good stead.


Have you attempted an improved version of your spoon? I wasn't happy with the bevel.
The horizontal lines in the spoon might be the problem and too few pixels to work with.
I did try filing back the spoon to remove the black lines but it just didn't work out.
I don't think you necessarily need a 3d program to achieve an apparent 3d effect, Photoshop's native layer styles can be effective.

Traditionally forelocks are meant to be tugged you know, not merely touched.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 01:26:34 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 05, 2018, 12:57:43 PM
Have you attempted an improved version of your spoon? I wasn't happy with the bevel.
The horizontal lines in the spoon might be the problem and too few pixels to work with.
I did try filing back the spoon to remove the black lines but it just didn't work out.
I don't think you necessarily need a 3d program to achieve an apparent 3d effect, Photoshop's native layer styles can be effective.

Traditionally forelocks are meant to be tugged you know, not merely touched.

No, I found your version nice enough. Perhaps I should play with it, now that I have your permission (see, humble as ever).

I am much more comfortable working in 3D; it gives me the freedom to try different textures and orientations. I am more at home with it, because I design my jewellery and sculptures in the round in Rhino and Cinema 4D. That means I can turn the object around and see it from all angles. With Photoshop you only have one point of view. I have also been playing with ZBrush on and off for a year now. I've been told it is worth the pain to penetrate its weird user interface. It's very unlike any other Windows program.

I find tugging in public a bit awkward.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Tank on May 05, 2018, 06:41:49 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on May 05, 2018, 11:37:02 AM
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Quote from: Tank on May 05, 2018, 07:22:05 AM
I was thinking of making Rosy a rainbow on a clear background rather than a rainbow background. Does that make sense?

You mean the lines of the current image filled in with rainbow colours? Perhaps you could do a rough sketch to show me.
That's exactly what I mean. The current black/red logo done in a rainbow.

Here is an attempt. Not sure how successfully it will scale down to a small image, though. It may end up looking too busy.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VkKP2fc2F6nnt82gRvXwBlw1nw6jiiPa/view?usp=sharing

Perfect!
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Icarus on May 06, 2018, 01:11:24 AM
 Rainbow HAF symbols  might appeal to any of our LGBT members.  Seems to me that they would be twice damned  by the Christian right or other bible thumper types in that case. 

Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 06, 2018, 04:29:14 AM
Quote from: Icarus on May 06, 2018, 01:11:24 AM
Rainbow HAF symbols  might appeal to any of our LGBT members.  Seems to me that they would be twice damned  by the Christian right or other bible thumper types in that case.

They will always find a reason to damn anyone.
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: hermes2015 on May 07, 2018, 06:23:46 PM
Stigmata.

(https://i.imgur.com/pGCibqL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yoDrgUl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/emVdjB7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/87vUa61.jpg)
Title: Re: Variations on a HAF Emblem
Post by: Arturo on May 07, 2018, 07:14:34 PM
That is horrifying