I seem to remember we were talking about starting a thread on this subject, but I don't think we did. In any case, there's something about this that's bothering me so I figured I'd start off.
My plan this new year was to start following a largely vegetarian diet (with exceptions for fish), and somehow I managed to forget that every past attempt to cut back on something instantly creates a ravenging desire for that very food. I don't mean simply missing it, I mean wanting that food and only that food to the point where I can hardly bear to eat anything else.
Under normal circumstances I don't like red meat that much or eat it more than a few times a month (one of the reasons I deluded myself it would be easy to give up) but now that I'm officially not eating it I want hamburgers for every meal, with meatloaf sandwiches for a snack! Is it just me? Does anybody else shoot themselves in the foot like this when they try to cut back on something?
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on January 21, 2012, 08:20:41 AM
I seem to remember we were talking about starting a thread on this subject, but I don't think we did. In any case, there's something about this that's bothering me so I figured I'd start off.
My plan this new year was to start following a largely vegetarian diet (with exceptions for fish), and somehow I managed to forget that every past attempt to cut back on something instantly creates a ravenging desire for that very food. I don't mean simply missing it, I mean wanting that food and only that food to the point where I can hardly bear to eat anything else.
Under normal circumstances I don't like red meat that much or eat it more than a few times a month (one of the reasons I deluded myself it would be easy to give up) but now that I'm officially not eating it I want hamburgers for every meal, with meatloaf sandwiches for a snack! Is it just me? Does anybody else shoot themselves in the foot like this when they try to cut back on something?
I love food too much. I'm 6'2" and somewhere around 215 lbs (97 kilos). But I'm getting a belly. So I just cut back on portions and limit...extremely limit...fried foods and pastries and in their place eat more raw veggies.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on January 21, 2012, 08:20:41 AM
I seem to remember we were talking about starting a thread on this subject, but I don't think we did. In any case, there's something about this that's bothering me so I figured I'd start off.
My plan this new year was to start following a largely vegetarian diet (with exceptions for fish), and somehow I managed to forget that every past attempt to cut back on something instantly creates a ravenging desire for that very food. I don't mean simply missing it, I mean wanting that food and only that food to the point where I can hardly bear to eat anything else.
Under normal circumstances I don't like red meat that much or eat it more than a few times a month (one of the reasons I deluded myself it would be easy to give up) but now that I'm officially not eating it I want hamburgers for every meal, with meatloaf sandwiches for a snack! Is it just me? Does anybody else shoot themselves in the foot like this when they try to cut back on something?
I'm the same way, if I make a food off limits I want to eat a lot of it. So instead I just lump a lot of foods in the "not worth the calories" group and then only have them on occasion when i really want them and can have some of whatever it is that was made very well. I guess you just have to make your will to not eat X food align with your will to eat X food so that they worth together in a friendly manner. This same approach may help with switching to vegetarian (or pescetarian (sp) as it may be in this case).
The only one time when I really cut sugar from my diet cold turkey (basically following an extreme diabetic's diet) when when I had a health scare (glicose tested into the diabetic range). I didn't find it to be too difficult, but I'm guessing a huge part of this is because of the health scare, not just willpower alone. I didn't feel like I had a choice.
To do that sort of thing today would require willpower I don't have :P
I'm not a big fan of completely cutting things unless absolutely necessary, like in the above example. It just doesn't work that well for me. Much rather turn into a controllable system of working for rewards, i.e work out so many hours to each sweets or something like that.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on January 21, 2012, 08:20:41 AM
I seem to remember we were talking about starting a thread on this subject, but I don't think we did. In any case, there's something about this that's bothering me so I figured I'd start off.
My plan this new year was to start following a largely vegetarian diet (with exceptions for fish), and somehow I managed to forget that every past attempt to cut back on something instantly creates a ravenging desire for that very food. I don't mean simply missing it, I mean wanting that food and only that food to the point where I can hardly bear to eat anything else.
Under normal circumstances I don't like red meat that much or eat it more than a few times a month (one of the reasons I deluded myself it would be easy to give up) but now that I'm officially not eating it I want hamburgers for every meal, with meatloaf sandwiches for a snack! Is it just me? Does anybody else shoot themselves in the foot like this when they try to cut back on something?
As a health teacher, I should really have a better diet. But if I could say one thing...
-drags over soap box- -climbs up-
It's just moderation and many people over think their diets way too much. Unless its for a medical reason, there is really no need to cut out a food completely, although cutting down intensely on some not so great choices are sure-fire ways to bolster your health.
-jumps off box and throws into corner-
I'd rather have a little of the real version than a lot of the crappy version. I LOVE food. Thank goodness I like exercise, too... ;D
It could be 'stubborn syndrome', too. Which I have... Lol. Like the whole, you want it more if it's forbidden, tell me one thing and I'll do the other sort. Cause I'm SO that way. I try so hard not to be.
Anyway, have you tried the Morning Star veggie burgers? Some are actually quite good. What made you take the vegetarian route? Health, cruelty-free?
Morning Star is good - way better than Boca in my opinion.
I've got this weird auto-immune thing going on. They don't know exactly what it is, but I'm going to see a specialist at University Hospital in Feb. Basically my immune system is attacking my thyroid, which on it's own is just normal old Hashimoto's, but it's also attacking my joints, which could be like a lupus or arthritis type thing, but my blood work is weird and I don't have all of the symptoms to diagnose Lupus, and have some other symptoms as well. Anyway, whatever, it's a pain in the butt. I am on Synthroid for my thyroid problems, but it seems to not make a huge difference - I can still gain weight just from being in the same room as fattening foods. :)
So, my big thing is that I have to put in a real effort to exercise regularly, and to really try to limit "junk" foods and try to focus on whole foods. My usual routine is that I walk for at least a half an hour a day on my breaks at work, and then 2 days a week I go to the gym and do an hour of cardio on the machines (I switch it up between the elliptical, the bike, and the rowing machine) and 2 days a week I take an hour and fifteen minute Zumbia class, but being careful about modifying some of the moves so they don't completely kill my joints. I tried running for a while, and it was a great way to keep off the weight, but my stupid knees and hips just couldn't handle it, so I try to do things that are lower impact. I want to get into some strength training because I know that strengthening my muscles will help stabilize my joints, but I'm not really sure where to start so I want to hire a trainer to get me started once I have some money (or find out if my insurance would pay for it) because I'm scared of using bad form and hurting my poor stressed out joints even more.
Of course, I haven't been to the gym in over a week now because I'm sick as a dog (still!) and don't feel up to it. But soon.
I love the idea of this thread; let's all keep each other motivated!
Ali-
That is a very intresting situation. I do hope you figure out what's going on and get well soon! Your exercise routine sounds pretty good to me! As for strength training, there is an app for that. (I couldn't resist...) If you have access to iApps, although I'm not sure if they are on droids as well, there are plenty of free apps as well as cheap apps that go through the motions with you demonstrated by a personal trainer in video form. And shape, self and women's health magazine usually have videos to accompany their in magazine workouts. That's where I get a lot of my goods from. :)
I'm a runner, but your right, it is so hard on the hips and knees...!
@ Ali
Do you have access to a swimming pool? Good cardio vascular workout and zero joint impact.
I usually never eat sugar and don't get any cravings for it. The reason you crave meat when you cut it out of your diet is the lack of protein and amino acids. Not to mention that the only thing we have been eating as humans longer than meat is fruits and vegetables. Try some good whey protein with amino acids. That may help.
There are protein and amino acids in fish...right? So that probably isn't the cause of craving chicken, pork, or beef if someone is a Pescetarian (just taught firefox's spell check a new word).
I tried vegan and vegetarian a while back and never actually craved meat; I just felt like crap because I wasn't getting enough protein since I don't really like beans. I'm currently exploring ways to prepare beans that I will eat...so far lentils are pretty versatile. I go through phases where certain foods just don't appeal to me even if I use to like them and meat keeps being one of those foods so it's made me naturally want to look for balanced meals I can make without meat (especially ones that my husband will eat...which is a challenge). I also need to learn more ways to cook fish (that doesn't involved drowning in high calories stuff) since it tend to just season it and cook...which can get kinda boring if I want to have fish more nights a week.
I've developed fairly severe arthritis in my ankle from old sports injuries (both my ankles have been sprained mildly to severely more times than I can remember...my knees also have problems but are okay as long as I don't do squats and other similar movements) so I'm also looking into including more foods that may help reduce inflammation....which is part of why I want to include more fish too. I was provided this list of things that might help http://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_articles.asp?id=862 I would like a foods to avoid list too if anyone knows of a list based on research (frankly as long as it's not a list of unreasonable things to avoid I'd give it a try based on personal testimony).
Yes but different meats have different amino acids. I'm not sure about fish. It may very in different types.
Quote from: Whitney on January 21, 2012, 02:01:17 PM
I'm the same way, if I make a food off limits I want to eat a lot of it.
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one, and I really like SunshineSTATEofMind's tag of "stubborn syndrome" for it. Yeah, just
try and make me give up bacon, me. I was thinking maybe I could sneak a basically vegetarian diet into my life by not calling it that, just think of it as a fish-veg-fruit based diet and I can have a burger if I feel like it (and try to find substitutes for the burger when I can).
Quote from: SunshineSTATEofMindAnyway, have you tried the Morning Star veggie burgers? Some are actually quite good. What made you take the vegetarian route? Health, cruelty-free?
I tried Boca once and never made it past the first bite. I'm going to trust you and Ali and give the Morning Star a try. My doctor recommended a largely vegetarian diet as healthiest for me given my family's medical history (stroke, heart disease, adult-onset diabetes). The cruelty thing concerns me too, but sadly it doesn't seem to strengthen my will at all.
Quote from: Ali on January 21, 2012, 04:30:36 PM
I've got this weird auto-immune thing going on. They don't know exactly what it is, but I'm going to see a specialist at University Hospital in Feb. Basically my immune system is attacking my thyroid, which on it's own is just normal old Hashimoto's, but it's also attacking my joints, which could be like a lupus or arthritis type thing, but my blood work is weird and I don't have all of the symptoms to diagnose Lupus, and have some other symptoms as well. Anyway, whatever, it's a pain in the butt.
I'll bet -- I can't imagine how aggravating a long "hunt for the right diagnosis" must be. At least you seem to have a handle on dealing with it, except for this:
Quote from: AliOf course, I haven't been to the gym in over a week now because I'm sick as a dog (still!) and don't feel up to it. But soon.
I hate to tell you this, but look for it to last a while longer. They way you describe it, it sounds like what I had in December and I'm still having relapses in January. It's a persistent little bastard.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on January 21, 2012, 08:03:49 PM
The cruelty thing concerns me too, but sadly it doesn't seem to strengthen my will at all.
The 'Earthlings' documentary should be prescribed then.
Just a little note, it's heavy stuff, with graphic scenes of animal cruelty.
Tank, that's a good idea about swimming. My gym does have a swimming pool, I should try to hit that up more often.
Sunshine - I will have to check out those apps and videos! If I could get a pretty good idea of what I'm doing, hopefully I could cut down the time with a trainer to a bare minimum.
BooksCats - Oh yes, Boca is not my favorite, although they have a black bean burger that isn't bad. Sadly, I suspect you may be right about my cold - it's hanging on and on....I went walking through the mall with my parents today and by the end of it I could barely put one foot in front of the other. I'm truly amazed how much this illness has taken out of me.
Hey guys! Yay, diet and health thread!!
I feel like when you make small changes over time, it is easier to become a lifestyle than a diet.
As far as meat goes, I still eat it, but in very small portions, and only once to twice a week. It sounds crazy, but your craving for meat decreases! My friend offered me pepperoni pizza last night, and I only had a bite before plucking off all the meat.
I drink Almond milk instead of regular drink. It's an amazing substitute with very little fat and tons of nutrition.
I drink more water, sugar free iced teas instead of soda. Once in a while I'll crave a vanilla coke, but that is pretty rare.
I definitely cut out fried foods. This is probably the best change I made. I have sensitive skin , and ate onion rings all thr time. Not only do onion rings and fries have nooo nutritional value to me, it broke my skin out like crazy. If I will have a fried treat, I will have a donut! That way, i'll have ONE and treat it as dessert instead of a meal.
Well, that's about it for me. My only real exercise is walking a lot. I live in NYC- so I can walk literally everywhere if the weather is nice! Last summer, I made a point to walk at least 4-5 miles a day to keep in shape.
I'm going to make a homemade minestrone soup today, and maybe some sort of cheddar bread (we have a bread maker) so is super easy.
The minestrone soup recipe I'm going to try is here:
http://www.savvyhomemade.com/homemade-vegetable-soup.html (http://www.savvyhomemade.com/homemade-vegetable-soup.html) (2nd recipe down)
Except I'm going to use veggie stock instead of chicken stock. Mmmmm, soup sounds just right.
Skipping my zumba class today. Still sick. :-\
That sounds absolutely delicious, Ali! Feel better soon. :)
Quote from: Ali on January 22, 2012, 03:18:04 PM
I'm going to make a homemade minestrone soup today, and maybe some sort of cheddar bread (we have a bread maker) so is super easy.
The minestrone soup recipe I'm going to try is here:
http://www.savvyhomemade.com/homemade-vegetable-soup.html (http://www.savvyhomemade.com/homemade-vegetable-soup.html) (2nd recipe down)
Except I'm going to use veggie stock instead of chicken stock. Mmmmm, soup sounds just right.
Skipping my zumba class today. Still sick. :-\
Have a nice cup of (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg268.imageshack.us%2Fimg268%2F7475%2Fteah.gif&hash=974e3ef02680bc29a956eeb3296cd6601baa8c94) (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg163.imageshack.us%2Fimg163%2F7355%2Fconsoling2.gif&hash=3a8ffba6dd009744a227ffe4896f21813251a0c2)
Quote from: Ali on January 22, 2012, 01:07:44 AM
Sadly, I suspect you may be right about my cold - it's hanging on and on....I went walking through the mall with my parents today and by the end of it I could barely put one foot in front of the other. I'm truly amazed how much this illness has taken out of me.
Do not push that cold, it can push back hard. My stepmother has it as well and recently wound up in the ER because of it.
QuoteThe minestrone soup recipe I'm going to try is here:
http://www.savvyhomemade.com/homemade-vegetable-soup.html (2nd recipe down)
That does sound good -- I've added it to my favorites. Never seen it done with green beans before, but then the Italian restaurant across the street from me puts potatoes in theirs which I've never seen anywhere else either.
Hi there... I also have Hashimoto's and struggle to lose weight at times but I can tell you that cardio is not going to keep the weight off. The best way to do that is a combo of resistance training and interval work... Most of which can be done at home and using body weight.... I have dropped 2 inches off of each thigh using this method and lost all my baby weight in 6 months (post baby)... Happy to share details of workouts if interested?
Quote from: Ali on January 21, 2012, 04:30:36 PM
So, my big thing is that I have to put in a real effort to exercise regularly, and to really try to limit "junk" foods and try to focus on whole foods. My usual routine is that I walk for at least a half an hour a day on my breaks at work, and then 2 days a week I go to the gym and do an hour of cardio on the machines (I switch it up between the elliptical, the bike, and the rowing machine) and 2 days a week I take an hour and fifteen minute Zumbia class, but being careful about modifying some of the moves so they don't completely kill my joints. I tried running for a while, and it was a great way to keep off the weight, but my stupid knees and hips just couldn't handle it, so I try to do things that are lower impact. I want to get into some strength training because I know that strengthening my muscles will help stabilize my joints, but I'm not really sure where to start so I want to hire a trainer to get me started once I have some money (or find out if my insurance would pay for it) because I'm scared of using bad form and hurting my poor stressed out joints even more.
Of course, I haven't been to the gym in over a week now because I'm sick as a dog (still!) and don't feel up to it. But soon.
I love the idea of this thread; let's all keep each other motivated!
EDIT: Fixed quotes - Tank
Hi Summer - Sure, I would love to hear more. :)
Decided to make this bread today to have with the soup.
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/onion-garlic-cheese-bread/ (http://allrecipes.com/recipe/onion-garlic-cheese-bread/)
Garlic Onion Cheese Bread sounds a-MAZ-ing.
For lunch, am sauteing onion, red pepper, carrot, garlic, and zucchini, and then adding some black beans and simmering with spices. Will serve with brown rice and cheese. I'm making enough so that I can take it with me to work for the next day or so. Yum!
Sounds very Nom nom nom...
I'm feeling kind of bloggy, so I documented the making of our beans and rice lunch with my favorite sous chef. I think he could grow up to be a chef of some sort because he LOVES helping us shop and cook. Excuse the crappy cell phone pictures. Husband got a fancy new camera and I have no idea how to use it.
From humble beginnings:
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Boiling the brown rice:
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We've got the carrot, zuc, and red pepper chopped. It remains to be seen if there will be anything left to cook by the time sous chef gets done "sampling" it:
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Sauteing the onions in butter. If there is anything better than onions sauteed in butter, I don't want to know about it:
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Veggies added to the pan:
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Black beans added:
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Finished product:
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NOMS!!!
Quote from: Ali on January 22, 2012, 09:49:17 PM
I'm feeling kind of bloggy, so I documented the making of our beans and rice lunch with my favorite sous chef. I think he could grow up to be a chef of some sort because he LOVES helping us shop and cook. Excuse the crappy cell phone pictures. Husband got a fancy new camera and I have no idea how to use it.
From humble beginnings:
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Blog worth it for this picture alone. Cute!
The Asmo's recipie for long life and glowing good health:
Junk food, smoking, more junkfood, more smokes, little physical activity, more smokes.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on January 22, 2012, 11:24:25 PM
Quote from: Ali on January 22, 2012, 09:49:17 PM
I'm feeling kind of bloggy, so I documented the making of our beans and rice lunch with my favorite sous chef. I think he could grow up to be a chef of some sort because he LOVES helping us shop and cook. Excuse the crappy cell phone pictures. Husband got a fancy new camera and I have no idea how to use it.
From humble beginnings:
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff131%2Faasaliman%2FFood1231.jpg&hash=729ba7ca63c3f111fd7f12b6704047eec9c43b0f)
Blog worth it for this picture alone. Cute!
Definitely got his mummy's eyes.
Is it rice or noodles?
Rice, though I bet it would be good with noodles too.
He does have my eyes. Melts my heart with them too. :)
Asmo - Your way sounds fun. I gave up smoking about 8 years ago and I still dream about it some times. How sad is that? Alas, the old gray mare ain't what she used to be - I can't afford to eat junk food and sit anymore.
Sigh. I keep saying I'm going to eat healthier and today I scarfed down a ton of potato chips. Sigh. Oh well, tomorrow's another day, right?
Quote from: Asmodean on January 23, 2012, 07:53:19 AM
The Asmo's recipie for long life and glowing good health:
Junk food, smoking, more junkfood, more smokes, little physical activity, more smokes.
No barbeque'd babies? And nice . . . hat?
Quote from: Traveler on January 25, 2012, 05:17:03 AM
Sigh. I keep saying I'm going to eat healthier and today I scarfed down a ton of potato chips. Sigh. Oh well, tomorrow's another day, right?
And another ton of potato chips :D
Quote from: Tank on January 25, 2012, 08:38:57 AM
Quote from: Traveler on January 25, 2012, 05:17:03 AM
Sigh. I keep saying I'm going to eat healthier and today I scarfed down a ton of potato chips. Sigh. Oh well, tomorrow's another day, right?
And another ton of potato chips :D
Trouble maker!!! LOL
Don't feel bad Trav. I forgot my lunch at home this morning, so I've been thinking about where I should do to get lunch near my office. I decided on an egg and tomato sammy from Subway - not too bad yet. But then I realized that while I'm there, I could pick up a side of Miss Vickie's Jalapeno chips.....*drooool*
If you have an iphone and are into exercise check out Nike Training Club (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nike-training-club/id301521403?mt=8) it takes up a good chunk of memory but is seriously good. Also even though its aimed at women it is just as good for men.
I've started doing yoga and pilates again. Stomach hurts today; but in the good "i'm getting stronger" way and thankfully not too bad (which means I didn't take too much time off exercise).
Bob Harper's Yoga for the warrior kicks my ass...I can get through every other yoga home dvd I've had without much issue no matter how out of shape I have been but the sequencing he uses makes the yoga 'active' and I can only make it about half way through (full program is 1 hour). His yoga is harder than the crunch pilates which I can do 30 minutes of and not feel killed. I think stretching while toning using my body weight might be just what I need to get back into running...thinking back that's what I did before getting into running in college and may be where I messed up by skipping it this time around. I want to be able to do all the moves in the bob harper dvd by...let's say..2013 (yes they are that hard...and sexy/cool looking).
Does anyone know of a challenging pilates dvd I could buy? Right now I"m just using one off netflix that is by Crunch has a brunette instructor and is broken down into three 10-minute sections that target different areas. I will be needing to get something more advanced to keep the challenge up at some point (assuming it will still be challenging for a few months since I'm following some of the modifications).
For some reason I hate weight lifting and traditional stretching but yoga and pilates I can enjoy. And it seems to help my back too (I need to remind myself of this when I get lazy).
My ankle has been feeling better for a whole week now so I'm going to start walking on the treadmill again and resist the urge to up the pace to a jog. Time will tell if running is actually going to be possible or not but I'm not planning on trying it again till I lose another 20 lbs.
Oh and we're going to the beach this summer and it's our 5 year anniversary...so motivation! At the very least I will be at least the size I was when we were married (it's fairly easily doable; i've done the math)...want to lose a bit more than that though because I was a bit chubby when we got married.
Whitney, do you have "On Demand" with your cable? We have a lot of free exercise videos on our "On Demand" including yoga and whatnot.
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 03:47:16 PM
Whitney, do you have "On Demand" with your cable? We have a lot of free exercise videos on our "On Demand" including yoga and whatnot.
No, we don't have cable, canceled it when we moved because we weren't using it that much. We just use netflix and basic hulu for watching shows.
I just switched back to using Noom/Calorific again for my nutrition tracking. I had switched back to detailed calorie counting when my phone was out of service and think all it is doing is adding extra stress.
I know how to eat right; there is no reason for me to be torturing myself calculating every meal down to the exact calories....such a pain. Every week it will average out what I entered and automatically post how well I ate to facebook...so it has the embarrassment factor if it's really bad; and I can switch it to daily if I notice I need more frequent accountability to more than just myself.
And yoga is progressing well...even though it is still challenging, I am now able to complete the whole 60 minutes of the warrior yoga. I apparently didn't taken too much time off because I can still touch my palms to the floor (like going past touching toes).
Doing an experiment right now; cutting all.meats and fried foods. I am eating only veggies (raw) , boiled eggs, saltines crackers, tuna, and drinking black coffee twice a day.
I want to see if I get resilts at the end of the water.
Ps- vitamin water zero is my god~
About a month and a half ago (Christmas eve, actually), I was diagnosed with Crohn's, in addition to the Celiac sprue we figured out I had a year ago. Wasn't being very good about following a gluten-free diet, so I started dropping weight like crazy . . . now am back on GF and also reading up on The Specific Carbohydrate Diet. The efficacy of the diet isn't well established, but the basis makes sense, so I'll give it a go. For anyone else with digestive issues, give this a go and see if it helps. It's based on the premise that certain carbohydrates are more likely to cause intestinal inflammation and promote the overgrowth of "bad" bacterial gut flora. My doctor would personally like everyone to give going gluten-free a try, whether you have a true intolerance or not. His observation was that eliminating gluten in his diet gave him more energy and improved his digestive health. And if you've already decided on trying a diet restrictive in carbohydrates, why not? ;)
As for exercise, well, I don't have the patience to be a gym rat, so a few months ago I joined a jiu-jitsu class. Hiiiiiiiiii-yah! :D
There is also suppose to be something special about using sprouted grains instead of regular grains. Something about the sprouting process burning off something that would otherwise be bad. Yes...I'm very helpful.
I just signed up for a 5k on March 31st with a team of freethinkers our team name is Left Behinds
oh, and topic stickied.
Whitney, that's awesome!
Thanks for sticky-ing. I need to see this more often as a reminder....
I'm in a bit of a health mess right now. I'm trying to cut back on carbs majorly in my diet, trying to eat leaner meats, more veggies and fruit, while also trying to eat smaller portions and get more exercise. At the same time as the diet changes, I'm attempting to cut the salt in my diet way back, as well as the caffeine way back -- I have higher blood pressure, and I need to get it down because the last thing my daughter needs is for me to have some kind of major health event. Sigh. Oh, also, I can't drink alchohol for medical reasons. Finally, to top everything off, I'm also trying to quit a nicotene addiction. And no, I don't smoke. I used to. I went from the smokes to the gum... and then got hooked on the gum. Go figure. So yesterday, I went cold turkey and quit that outright.
Just... less carbs... less salt... less/barely any coffee... no alcohol... no nicotene...
I know all the above is awesome for me and I NEED to stick with it and refuse to cave and tell myself I can get myself back into shape and straighten myself out. It's just a lot to give up in a short period, and the loss of caffeine and nicotene is apparently messing with me. Yep, I know I'm whining, and that my post belongs on that 'first world problems' webpage, because I hardly have it bad. Just frustrated, dealing with cravings, and wound up blowing off my diet and eating absolute JUNK today to make up for the other stuff I can't have.
I'm trying to convince myself to just stick with what I need to do, and to NOT go out and gain quick access to caffeine, alchohol or nicotene, because tonight I really wish I had at least one of the three, preferably the last two. Gaaaah.
Quote from: Sweetdeath on February 10, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
Doing an experiment right now; cutting all.meats and fried foods. I am eating only veggies (raw) , boiled eggs, saltines crackers, tuna, and drinking black coffee twice a day.
I want to see if I get resilts at the end of the water.
Ps- vitamin water zero is my god~
Don't worry, The Asmo will not let the uneaten burgers go to waste while you do that. :D
Quote from: Sweetdeath on February 10, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
Doing an experiment right now; cutting all.meats and fried foods. I am eating only veggies (raw) , boiled eggs, saltines crackers, tuna, and drinking black coffee twice a day.
I want to see if I get resilts at the end of the water.
Ps- vitamin water zero is my god~
Cooking veggies isn't necessarily a bad thing, or at least that's what I've discerned from the babble. You get more from a carrot if it's cooked a bit, same with tomato, I've never been tempted to try an uncooked pumpkin or potato.
Amicale take it slow you don't want to stop doing all those things at once, do one at a time and let your body adjust. Its hard enough quitting nicotine never mind adding caffeine, sugar, and salt withdrawal symptoms into the mix. If you don't drink regularly then that shouldn't be too much of a problem if you cut it out but the others all have big effects on how you feel and can last for a long time. Set achievable staggered goals rather than the total cold turkey route that way you are also more likely to stay off the stuff for good.
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on February 29, 2012, 01:09:23 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on February 10, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
Doing an experiment right now; cutting all.meats and fried foods. I am eating only veggies (raw) , boiled eggs, saltines crackers, tuna, and drinking black coffee twice a day.
I want to see if I get resilts at the end of the water.
Ps- vitamin water zero is my god~
Cooking veggies isn't necessarily a bad thing, or at least that's what I've discerned from the babble. You get more from a carrot if it's cooked a bit, same with tomato, I've never been tempted to try an uncooked pumpkin or potato.
Yup, some veggies don't release their nutrients until after they are cooked. I forgot exactly which ones though since I just eat them however I want sometimes raw sometimes cooked. I think cooked carrots are not that good though.
Quote from: Crow on February 29, 2012, 01:41:28 PM
Amicale take it slow you don't want to stop doing all those things at once, do one at a time and let your body adjust. Its hard enough quitting nicotine never mind adding caffeine, sugar, and salt withdrawal symptoms into the mix. If you don't drink regularly then that shouldn't be too much of a problem if you cut it out but the others all have big effects on how you feel and can last for a long time. Set achievable staggered goals rather than the total cold turkey route that way you are also more likely to stay off the stuff for good.
Yeah, I'm going to have to take it slow. I'll keep off the nicotine because I've managed it for 2 days so why stop a good thing, lol... if I cave, I cave, but I'll just try again. I want to at least try that cold turkey, though. Couldn't hurt. I'll just cut back on the coffee though, rather than totally quitting it. I use splenda all the time rather than sugar so that's no problem, but I'll really have to eventually work on getting the carbs and the salt cut back. Key word: eventually. :D As for the alcohol, no, I never drank regularly. It's just that I liked the occasional glass of wine, and alcohol of any sort interacts badly with meds I'm on, so that's why it's out. You're right about setting achievable, staggered goals for everything though. I will.
Unfortunately I have an 'addictive personality'. Runs in the family, shall we say. So I'm trying to reign it in, as much as I can.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=raw-veggies-are-healthier
QuoteOne 2002 study he did (published in the Journal of Agriculture and Food Chemistry) found that cooking actually boosts the amount of lycopene in tomatoes.
QuoteCooked carrots, spinach, mushrooms, asparagus, cabbage, peppers and many other vegetables also supply more antioxidants, such as carotenoids and ferulic acid, to the body than they do when raw, Liu says. At least, that is, if they're boiled or steamed. A January 2008 report in the Journal of Agriculture and Food Chemistry said that boiling and steaming better preserves antioxidants, particularly carotenoid, in carrots, zucchini and broccoli, than frying, though boiling was deemed the best. The researchers studied the impact of the various cooking techniques on compounds such as carotenoids, ascorbic acid and polyphenols.
QuoteThe downside of cooking veggies, Liu says: it can destroy the vitamin C in them.
I don't like cooked cabbage, baking a zucchini in its skin makes them taste petrochemical to me.
Capsicum, (pepper) tomato, carrot are OK either way.
Pumpkin and potato, raw isn't an option. I sauté onions and bok choi.
Beetroot comes cooked in a can, it goes with everything, it's an Oz thing I think.
Cauliflower and Brussels sprouts are evil.
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on March 01, 2012, 02:21:02 AM
I don't like cooked cabbage, baking a zucchini in its skin makes them taste petrochemical to me.
Capsicum, (pepper) tomato, carrot are OK either way.
Pumpkin and potato, raw isn't an option. I sauté onions and bok choi.
Beetroot comes cooked in a can, it goes with everything, it's an Oz thing I think.
Cauliflower and Brussels sprouts are evil.
Potato I couldn't eat raw, but I'm one of the weirdos who enjoys raw pumpkin. :) If you blend it up with spices like cinnamon or nutmeg while raw, it just gets kinda of creamy and it tastes really rooty and great. Especially if you stick it in the freezer for a bit and eat it really cold!
We have canned beetroots here in Canada, they're pretty good.
I also don't like brussels sprouts, but I LOVE carrots-- especially raw. To me, cooking carrots takes the taste out of them.
Speaking of peppers... sorry, but I couldn't resist...
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I am a fish-addict. I can eat fish 3 meals a day everyday. My favorite cooking method is baking marinated fish (with low salt soy sauce/chili powder/some mix of spice). Or boiling in shallow water (no more than a cup in a pot of at least 12 inch) with those ingredients plus a little bit of sugar until almost all water evaporates.
Shallow-frying is easiest and risk-free way of enjoying fish.
Also found out the frozen salmon from Costco can be used for sashimi (?). Thaw it in refrigerator until it's still frozen a bit, but easy to cut. Slice it in pieces of about 1/8 inch thick. ..not as good as sashimi of fresh fish, but it's OK with soy sauce and wasabi + sake.
I also replaced salad dressing with soy sauce, vinegar or mustard-based. It feels a lot better than oil-based.
I do like raw salmon or butter fish. Good quality smoked salmon, with pink grapefruit and scrambled eggs make a super breakfast.
Quote from: Whitney on February 05, 2012, 06:02:32 AM
Bob Harper's Yoga for the warrior kicks my ass...I can get through every other yoga home dvd I've had without much issue no matter how out of shape I have been but the sequencing he uses makes the yoga 'active' and I can only make it about half way through (full program is 1 hour).
Is there a yoga DVD you'd recommend for an absolute beginner with bad knees? I'm thinking of getting into it for the various benefits I've read about but I couldn't manage anything ass-kicking.
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Quote from: Whitney on February 05, 2012, 06:02:32 AM
Bob Harper's Yoga for the warrior kicks my ass...I can get through every other yoga home dvd I've had without much issue no matter how out of shape I have been but the sequencing he uses makes the yoga 'active' and I can only make it about half way through (full program is 1 hour).
Is there a yoga DVD you'd recommend for an absolute beginner with bad knees? I'm thinking of getting into it for the various benefits I've read about but I couldn't manage anything ass-kicking.
I would first go to Yoga class and ask a certified and experienced instructor or personal trainer. I rarely had knee or leg problem other than minor ankle pain when playing soccer. But at the very beginning, I felt more pain than before when I was running. In addition, I experienced pains here and there (mostly knees and ankles) during transition from one position to another. I consulted the instructor, and learned the right way. Since then, I could better relax muscles. Another aspect is that there are many different styles in Yoga. It might be better to try 2 or 3 different instructors and pick 1 or more styles for your condition.
YMCA in my neighbor offers 3 or 4 different Yoga classes and I can go any class I want. Not many instructors change their routines and so I go to different classes to add more varieties.
In yoga, you are touching a lot of other muscles you rarely use actively in daily life. So it is a lot more challenging than you think. I am still a beginner in Yoga, but if you are serious about it you may want to start with an instructor. You'd better immerse yourself slowly with the pace best for you. I guess that is the part you need instructor's help.
Quote from: reddevil0126 on March 09, 2012, 09:45:37 PM
In yoga, you are touching a lot of other muscles you rarely use actively in daily life. So it is a lot more challenging than you think. I am still a beginner in Yoga, but if you are serious about it you may want to start with an instructor. You'd better immerse yourself slowly with the pace best for you. I guess that is the part you need instructor's help.
I think you're right that one-on-one training is the way to start. Parks and Rec here has some yoga classes and with any luck, I can find one that meets on the weekend.
I switched from "just peanuts" peanut butter to almond butter and I'm so glad I did. I like it way better! Wee man really likes it too.
I also can't wait for Spring to finally break through. I got a little pudge because I haven't been able to ride my bike in the winter. I'm definitely a "go and do stuff" exercise kind of girl as opposed to the "hit the gym". Walking, biking and chasing the rugrat are pretty much my exercise routine.
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on March 10, 2012, 05:20:16 PM
I switched from "just peanuts" peanut butter to almond butter and I'm so glad I did. I like it way better! Wee man really likes it too.
I also can't wait for Spring to finally break through. I got a little pudge because I haven't been able to ride my bike in the winter. I'm definitely a "go and do stuff" exercise kind of girl as opposed to the "hit the gym". Walking, biking and chasing the rugrat are pretty much my exercise routine.
*nods* Same! :) At least one can get a workout running around after a kiddo... I think I've went up and down stairs a couple dozen times today.
So now that I'm back on my "watching what I eat" kick, I have been trying to focus on portion control. To that end, I am loving these things to pack breakfast and lunch to eat at work:
http://www.drugstore.com/ziploc-divided-container-rectangle/qxp220989 (http://www.drugstore.com/ziploc-divided-container-rectangle/qxp220989)
For breakfast I have been packing a ww english muffin in the large compartment, some Brummel and Brown (butter like yogurt spread) for the muffin in the smallest compartment, and some cottage cheese and strawberries in the medium compartment.
For lunch one day I took hummus and veggies in the big compartment, pita wedges in the med compartment, and blueberries in the small compartment. Another day I did leftover rice and beans in the big container, baby carrots in the med compartment, and sliced strawberries in the small. Point being, they are great for portion control and handy to pack your whole meal in one container.
The Asmo is now on a healthy diet - he is adding green stuff to his meat.
You see, yesterday, he was walking around in a food store and found jalapeños. As in whole and nice rather than cut up and put in a can. :D
Quote from: Asmodean on March 21, 2012, 05:32:10 AM
The Asmo is now on a healthy diet - he is adding green stuff to his meat.
You see, yesterday, he was walking around in a food store and found jalapeños. As in whole and nice rather than cut up and put in a can. :D
I wish I could put jalapeños on everything!! So yummy! It goes so well on sandwiches, pizza, etc.
Yes. On everything. The Asmo can and does. :D
Asmo, the way you describe your diet, I have to imagine that you're half ball of clay, half T Rex. Now with fresh jalapenos. And OMA, fresh jalapenos are HOT!!!! Way hotter than the canned stuff IME.
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Hmm... Never thought of it. If The Asmo sprinkles his food with Aspirins, that would contribute to a varied diet, yes? :D
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Hmm... Never thought of it. If The Asmo sprinkles his food with Aspirins, that would contribute to a varied diet, yes? :D
And it's good for your blood. :)
My wife has had great results on the paleo diet. It goes against conventional wisdom, but she has lost about 40 lbs in three months, and her back pain, that she has had most of her life, as gone away. She used to suffer from chronic back pain, now it only hurts when she cheats and eats bread, the pain returns for a day or two and goes away again. She also had daily headaches that would last a few minutes that have completely disappeared.
The theory behind it is our bodies are evolutionarily programed to process meats, fruits and vegetables, not all the processed foods. Grains and processed sugars were introduced into our diets after our digestive systems had fully evolved, therefore, we are not equipped to properly digest these types of foods. By eating how we evolved to eat, many modern (relative to the history of our species) diseases can be prevented, cured, or lessened, like high cholesterol, diabetes and autoimmune issues.
I don't follow it as closely because I like M&M's, beer, scotch and bread a little to much, but I try to limit my intake of the M&M's and bread. The scotch too, but that simply because it's so damn expensive. Wine is allowed on the diet, but it can never replace beer or scotch.
Here is a link to the site about it, if anyone is interested. The resources tab has a large amount of information.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-resource-guide/#axzz1pmRAr0DF
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Hmm... Never thought of it. If The Asmo sprinkles his food with Aspirins, that would contribute to a varied diet, yes? :D
And it's good for your blood. :)
And possibly good if you have cancer.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on March 21, 2012, 07:10:47 PM
My wife has had great results on the paleo diet. It goes against conventional wisdom, but she has lost about 40 lbs in three months, and her back pain, that she has had most of her life, as gone away. She used to suffer from chronic back pain, now it only hurts when she cheats and eats bread, the pain returns for a day or two and goes away again. She also had daily headaches that would last a few minutes that have completely disappeared.
The theory behind it is our bodies are evolutionarily programed to process meats, fruits and vegetables, not all the processed foods. Grains and processed sugars were introduced into our diets after our digestive systems had fully evolved, therefore, we are not equipped to properly digest these types of foods. By eating how we evolved to eat, many modern (relative to the history of our species) diseases can be prevented, cured, or lessened, like high cholesterol, diabetes and autoimmune issues.
I don't follow it as closely because I like M&M's, beer, scotch and bread a little to much, but I try to limit my intake of the M&M's and bread. The scotch too, but that simply because it's so damn expensive. Wine is allowed on the diet, but it can never replace beer or scotch.
Here is a link to the site about it, if anyone is interested. The resources tab has a large amount of information.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-resource-guide/#axzz1pmRAr0DF
The auto immune thing is really interesting to me since that is my major ongoing health problem. I'll have to look into this more. Thanks for the recommend!
That sounds super interesting, TA!
I sadly cant give up bread or sugar because I love cupcakes and melon pan too much. Still, it's good for me to limit my quantity anyway.
No problem ladies. It's not to hard to follow either if you cook at home a lot and love meat, veggies, and dairy. There is a ton of information in the link, so you can determine if the claims seem reasonable. All I can say for certain is that it has helped my wife with some of her health problems that the doctors couldn't diagnose.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on March 21, 2012, 10:20:00 PM
No problem ladies. It's not to hard to follow either if you cook at home a lot and love meat, veggies, and dairy. There is a ton of information in the link, so you can determine if the claims seem reasonable. All I can say for certain is that it has helped my wife with some of her health problems that the doctors couldn't diagnose.
Thanks. I'm a big follower of homeopathic remedies. I seriously think so many health problems are connected to your diet.
I'll definitely take a gander at the link.
Quote from: Sweetdeath on March 22, 2012, 02:32:56 AM
I'm a big follower of homeopathic remedies.
You can't be serious! You think that something diluted to the point of non-existence has medicinal properties beyond placebo?! Just going with regular contaminants in water, you are getting pretty much every homeopathic treatment imaginable by drinking a glass of it - the only thing it cures is dehydration.
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I seriously think so many health problems are connected to your diet.
Yes, such as food poisoning, malnutrition, obesity, a couple of cancers... See the pattern in my examples?
Quote from: Asmodean on March 22, 2012, 07:56:02 AM
You can't be serious! You think that something diluted to the point of non-existence has medicinal properties beyond placebo?! Just going with regular contaminants in water, you are getting pretty much every homeopathic treatment imaginable by drinking a glass of it - the only thing it cures is dehydration.
I will say in SD's defense that the only time I ever tried a homeopathic remedy, it worked like a charm and it was highly unlikely to be a placebo effect. When T was a baby, we went through a phase where he was cutting like 4 teeth all at the same time, and he was also sick with an ear infection. Awful awful awful. We were doing the usual baby Tylenol and ear drops and a cold wet washcloth on his gums and whatnot, but we were still up and down with a screaming baby all night. The next day, I was whining to a friend of mine, and she suggested that I try these homeopathic teething tablets. I'm not a big believer in homeopathic remedies myself, but I was desperate, so I got them. That night, we started going through the same wailing baby routine. Granted, I had also again dosed him with Tylenol and numbing ear drops and all of that. But I popped one of those teething tablets into this mouth, and I swear he stopped crying and went to sleep immediately. Unlikely to be a placebo effect, since he was about 8 months old and had no clue what a teething tablet even was. After that night he was better.
So, coincidence? Maybe. But if another mom was in the same "ZOMG I haven't slept in days" place that I was in, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend that she give those teething tablets a try.
Quote from: Asmodean on March 22, 2012, 07:56:02 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on March 22, 2012, 02:32:56 AM
I'm a big follower of homeopathic remedies.
You can't be serious! You think that something diluted to the point of non-existence has medicinal properties beyond placebo?! Just going with regular contaminants in water, you are getting pretty much every homeopathic treatment imaginable by drinking a glass of it - the only thing it cures is dehydration.
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I seriously think so many health problems are connected to your diet.
Yes, such as food poisoning, malnutrition, obesity, a couple of cancers... See the pattern in my examples?
I agree that homeopathic remedies are usually simply the placebo effect, but the mind does play an important role in the healing process. If a person believes they will get positive results from the treatment, it has the potential to be more beneficial than traditional medicine. There also could be a few hidden gems, and it is a good alternative when traditional medicine fails to treat a problem adequately. It's also a decent option for people who don't like putting chemicals in their bodies and risking negative side effects like anal leakage, depression, blood clots, instant death, or any other potential side effect a drug might have.
Quote from: Ali on March 22, 2012, 01:25:41 PM
I will say in SD's defense that the only time I ever tried a homeopathic remedy, it worked like a charm and it was highly unlikely to be a placebo effect. When T was a baby, we went through a phase where he was cutting like 4 teeth all at the same time, and he was also sick with an ear infection. Awful awful awful. We were doing the usual baby Tylenol and ear drops and a cold wet washcloth on his gums and whatnot, but we were still up and down with a screaming baby all night. The next day, I was whining to a friend of mine, and she suggested that I try these homeopathic teething tablets. I'm not a big believer in homeopathic remedies myself, but I was desperate, so I got them. That night, we started going through the same wailing baby routine. Granted, I had also again dosed him with Tylenol and numbing ear drops and all of that. But I popped one of those teething tablets into this mouth, and I swear he stopped crying and went to sleep immediately. Unlikely to be a placebo effect, since he was about 8 months old and had no clue what a teething tablet even was. After that night he was better.
So, coincidence? Maybe. But if another mom was in the same "ZOMG I haven't slept in days" place that I was in, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend that she give those teething tablets a try.
Homeopathy works out of the assumption that you can treat fire with fire, so to speak. How was that tablet supposed to do that? Are you sure it wasn't some herbalist crap? For that matter, are you sure it didn't just contain some better dope than Tylenol?
Quote from: Ali on March 22, 2012, 01:25:41 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on March 22, 2012, 07:56:02 AM
You can't be serious! You think that something diluted to the point of non-existence has medicinal properties beyond placebo?! Just going with regular contaminants in water, you are getting pretty much every homeopathic treatment imaginable by drinking a glass of it - the only thing it cures is dehydration.
I will say in SD's defense that the only time I ever tried a homeopathic remedy, it worked like a charm and it was highly unlikely to be a placebo effect. When T was a baby, we went through a phase where he was cutting like 4 teeth all at the same time, and he was also sick with an ear infection. Awful awful awful. We were doing the usual baby Tylenol and ear drops and a cold wet washcloth on his gums and whatnot, but we were still up and down with a screaming baby all night. The next day, I was whining to a friend of mine, and she suggested that I try these homeopathic teething tablets. I'm not a big believer in homeopathic remedies myself, but I was desperate, so I got them. That night, we started going through the same wailing baby routine. Granted, I had also again dosed him with Tylenol and numbing ear drops and all of that. But I popped one of those teething tablets into this mouth, and I swear he stopped crying and went to sleep immediately. Unlikely to be a placebo effect, since he was about 8 months old and had no clue what a teething tablet even was. After that night he was better.
So, coincidence? Maybe. But if another mom was in the same "ZOMG I haven't slept in days" place that I was in, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend that she give those teething tablets a try.
When I'm in a "ZOMG I haven't slept in days" place, I would probably, literally, try fairy dust if it was given to me as an option. I'd probably try ANYTHING that wouldn't hurt wee man when I get to that point.
At some point you just have to shrug and say "Whatever works, works."
Regarding homeopathy:
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/homeo.html (http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/homeo.html)
http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/ComplementaryandAlternativeMedicine/PharmacologicalandBiologicalTreatment/homeopathy (http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/ComplementaryandAlternativeMedicine/PharmacologicalandBiologicalTreatment/homeopathy)
http://nccam.nih.gov/health/homeopathy (http://nccam.nih.gov/health/homeopathy)
Excerpt from "What is the evidence?" section of the American Cancer Society web page on homeopathy (bolding mine):
QuoteThere is no reliable clinical evidence showing that homeopathic remedies can treat cancer. The basic premises of homeopathy, developed more than 200 years ago, are not in agreement with modern scientific principles. Some researchers suggest, however, that homeopathy may result in helpful effects for patients who believe the treatment is working--a phenomenon known as the placebo or expectation effect.
Excerpt from National Institutes of Health page on homeopathy:
QuoteControversies Regarding Homeopathy
Homeopathy is a controversial area of CAM because a number of its key concepts are not consistent with established laws of science (particularly chemistry and physics). Critics think it is implausible that a remedy containing a miniscule amount of an active ingredient (sometimes not a single molecule of the original compound) can have any biological effect—beneficial or otherwise. For these reasons, critics argue that continuing the scientific study of homeopathy is not worthwhile. Others point to observational and anecdotal evidence that homeopathy does work and argue that it should not be rejected just because science has not been able to explain it.
That right there. That be The Asmo's point, only with references to sources.
Let me put it to you this way: If I get cancer, I'm going to get chemo and do whatever else my "western" Doctor tells me to do.
If I have trouble falling asleep, I might try a homoepathic remedy just cuz. I drink chamomile tea, for instance, sometimes before bed. Am I certain that the scientific research backs up the usefulness of chamomile? Not really. I've never even looked at it.
But, meh. I don't really care. I like tea that "maybe" works more than pills that I know will work. I think personal preference has a lot to do with those smaller choices and personal preference doesn't always make a lot of sense. The placebo effect can be useful.
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on March 23, 2012, 01:33:50 PM
If I have trouble falling asleep, I might try a homoepathic remedy just cuz. I drink chamomile tea, for instance, sometimes before bed. Am I certain that the scientific research backs up the usefulness of chamomile? Not really. I've never even looked at it.
Unless it's water with one molecule of whatever that tea is supposed to be made of per whatever value is higher than the Avogadro constant, it's herbalist and not homeopathic.
Wow guys, its kinda my body, my choice. :<
I've had great success with homeopathic so far. i think a good balance helps. If I have to go to the doctor, I will, but my gf is chinese so I have been learning a lot about natural healing.just because you saw some articles online, doesnt mean you know everything
This is what works for me. My ashtma has been actually improving as well. I still visit doctors for check ups. I dont claim to be health expert, but I know what my body likes or what makes it sick/slower.
Quote from: Sweetdeath on March 23, 2012, 03:12:42 PM
Wow guys, its kinda my body, my choice. :<
I've had great success with homeopathic so far. i think a good balance helps. If I have to go to the doctor, I will, but my gf is chinese so I have been learning a lot about natural healing.just because you saw some articles online, doesnt mean you know everything
This is what works for me. My ashtma has been actually improving as well. I still visit doctors for check ups. I dont claim to be health expert, but I know what my body likes or what makes it sick/slower.
True homeopathy has a bad name, because it doesn't work, except possibly as a placebo. However Chinese traditional medicine is not homeopathic in the western sense and could well be effective. I think the issue is definitions.
I think you'll find this video enlightning http://www.ted.com/talks/james_randi.html
Article online..?
How about research using peer-reviewed publications due to illness in my inner circles?
Chinese traditional medicine is, as pointed out, not homeopathic, but mostly herbalist.
Quote from: Tank on March 23, 2012, 03:49:51 PM
not homeopathic in the western sense
The word is derived from Greek. How many ways CAN you translate it?
Quote from: Asmodean on March 23, 2012, 05:28:00 PM
Article online..?
How about research using peer-reviewed publications due to illness in my inner circles?
Chinese traditional medicine is, as pointed out, not homeopathic, but mostly herbalist.
Alright, I wasnt sure if herbal remedies was the proper term or not. :)
Quote from: Sweetdeath on March 23, 2012, 05:59:53 PM
Alright, I wasnt sure if herbal remedies was the proper term or not. :)
It is, even for some animal product or mineral containing remedies.
And, unlike homeopathic crap, those DO sometimes work.
Example: if memory serves, the active component of Aspirin is acetilsalicylic acid. You an chew on willow bark in stead of pills, and it will probably help where Aspirin will. However, the pill is likely to be a lot more efficient and harder to OD on... Provided you can read the instructions.
Such herbal and un-scientific medicines are complete bosh. Obviously, when your right leg breaks, you need only break the left.
Edited for typo.
Quote from: Sweetdeath on March 23, 2012, 05:59:53 PM
Alright, I wasnt sure if herbal remedies was the proper term or not. :)
I had the same misconception as you, Sweetdeath. I thought most alternative forms of medicine were considered homeopathic.
Quote from: The Semaestro on March 23, 2012, 08:07:15 PM
Such herbal and scientific medicines are complete bosh. Obviously, when your right leg breaks, you need only break the left.
Should that have been un-scientific?
There were medicines before the scientific method and plenty of folk-remedies have proven to be effective for centuries. Digitalis from Fox Gloves being just one example.
Look, I get what you're all saying. I'm just saying, seeing is kind of believing. Seeing a wailing 8 month old immediately calm down and doze off in my arms (which is exactly what my friend predicted would happen, based on her own experience with her own babies and stuff) made me think there might be something to this particular treatment (which sells itself as "homeopathic.") It's like, who am I going to believe, you or my lying eyes? :D
Quote from: Ali on March 23, 2012, 08:31:58 PM
Look, I get what you're all saying. I'm just saying, seeing is kind of believing. Seeing a wailing 8 month old immediately calm down and doze off in my arms (which is exactly what my friend predicted would happen, based on her own experience with her own babies and stuff) made me think there might be something to this particular treatment (which sells itself as "homeopathic.") It's like, who am I going to believe, you or my lying eyes? :D
What was the active component?
Quote from: Asmodean on March 23, 2012, 02:41:42 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on March 23, 2012, 01:33:50 PM
If I have trouble falling asleep, I might try a homoepathic remedy just cuz. I drink chamomile tea, for instance, sometimes before bed. Am I certain that the scientific research backs up the usefulness of chamomile? Not really. I've never even looked at it.
Unless it's water with one molecule of whatever that tea is supposed to be made of per whatever value is higher than the Avogadro constant, it's herbalist and not homeopathic.
Ah, well. I've never really heard much of a distinction before. Makes sense, I suppose.
Edit: Am I crazy to have thought that "herbalism" has fallen under homeopathy, though? I kind of assumed that was the case. Maybe not? I've never really looked at the definitions, I've always just had a vague sense of the things.
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on March 23, 2012, 10:11:33 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on March 23, 2012, 02:41:42 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on March 23, 2012, 01:33:50 PM
If I have trouble falling asleep, I might try a homoepathic remedy just cuz. I drink chamomile tea, for instance, sometimes before bed. Am I certain that the scientific research backs up the usefulness of chamomile? Not really. I've never even looked at it.
Unless it's water with one molecule of whatever that tea is supposed to be made of per whatever value is higher than the Avogadro constant, it's herbalist and not homeopathic.
Ah, well. I've never really heard much of a distinction before. Makes sense, I suppose.
Edit: Am I crazy to have thought that "herbalism" has fallen under homeopathy, though? I kind of assumed that was the case. Maybe not? I've never really looked at the definitions, I've always just had a vague sense of the things.
I think homoeopathy got to be the term for natural/alternative medicine and now people know what homoeopathy really means there is a terminology realignment going on.
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on March 23, 2012, 10:11:33 PM
Edit: Am I crazy to have thought that "herbalism" has fallen under homeopathy, though?
Yes
Quote from: Crow on March 23, 2012, 10:48:52 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on March 23, 2012, 10:11:33 PM
Edit: Am I crazy to have thought that "herbalism" has fallen under homeopathy, though?
Yes
Here is a slightly out-there distinction:
Homeopathy: Cure migrains? No problem! Let's dilute nitroglycerin (Induces migrains) in water at the rate of one drop to the ocean, then have you drink it and enjoy the placebo.
Herbalism: My opium-containing plant is from nature, so obviously it works better than your opium-containing pill. (And screw the fact that the pill may well be derived from the plant in the first place)
Quote from: Crow on March 23, 2012, 10:48:52 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on March 23, 2012, 10:11:33 PM
Edit: Am I crazy to have thought that "herbalism" has fallen under homeopathy, though?
Yes
Okay, just as long as we're clear.
Yeah, until a few years ago, when I heard a doctor on the radio explain exactly what "homeopathy" meant, I did not know that "homeopathy" does not equate to "alternative medicine." Not that I put much credence in most "alternative" treatments either. With all Western medicine's flaws, I'll still go with a drug or therapy that's been shown to be effective through double-blind studies over something that hasn't any day.
Quote from: Tank on March 23, 2012, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: The Semaestro on March 23, 2012, 08:07:15 PM
Such herbal and scientific medicines are complete bosh. Obviously, when your right leg breaks, you need only break the left.
Should that have been un-scientific?
There were medicines before the scientific method and plenty of folk-remedies have proven to be effective for centuries. Digitalis from Fox Gloves being just one example.
Agreed. Homeopathy is complete bullshit and at best a placebo. But there are many herbal medicines that do work. To emphasize how much they can work, there are some that can be used to induce miscarriage.
Quote from: Whitney on March 24, 2012, 03:52:39 AM
Agreed. Homeopathy is complete bullshit and at best a placebo. But there are many herbal medicines that do work. To emphasize how much they can work, there are some that can be used to induce miscarriage.
Of course some work. Oh, there are plenty of herbal placebos out there too, but plants do can have the necessary active components to help with pain, nausea, unwanted pregnancy and a whole mess of issues.
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on March 23, 2012, 11:06:23 PM
Quote from: Crow on March 23, 2012, 10:48:52 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on March 23, 2012, 10:11:33 PM
Edit: Am I crazy to have thought that "herbalism" has fallen under homeopathy, though?
Yes
Okay, just as long as we're clear.
Sorry I intended to place the tongue smiley, but in all fairness quite a few people have mixed up herbal and homeopathy so maybe its a cultural thing on your side of the pond, maybe the homeopathy companies have purposely aligned themselves with herbal products to give credibility to their crock o' shit of a product.
No worries, as I said, it's not something I ever really examined closely. Good to know :)
:D
2001 BC Here, eat this root.
1000 AD That root is heathen. Here, say this prayer.
1850 AD That prayer is superstition. Here, drink this potion.
1920 AD That potion is snake oil. Here, swallow this pill.
1945 AD That pill is ineffective. Here, take this penicillin.
1955 AD Oops... bugs mutated. Here, take this tetracycline.
1960-1999 AD 39 more "oops"... Here, take this more powerful antibiotic.
2000 AD The bugs have won! Here, eat this root.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071639/
Quote from: Amicale on March 25, 2012, 08:20:48 PM
1960-1999 AD 39 more "oops"... Here, take this more powerful antibiotic.
Does it have to be more powerful? Why not just different?
Quote from: Asmodean on March 25, 2012, 08:24:11 PM
Quote from: Amicale on March 25, 2012, 08:20:48 PM
1960-1999 AD 39 more "oops"... Here, take this more powerful antibiotic.
Does it have to be more powerful? Why not just different?
Probably because humans build up resistance to one, so you have to try something more powerful/stronger aka something different that'll knock a disease out. I dunno. :) I've just always thought that joke was cute. And a bit true, too.
Well, I don't think more power is always necessary - If something that works in a different way does the trick, then it does the trick.
Antibiotics induce environmental chances on the nanoscopic level that prevent bacterium from being able to survive, and thus, mutate. Of course, being an environmental change rather than an antibody, any life form, including bacterium most of all, is quite capable of adapting to survive the new environment. Unfortunately, really harsh environmental antibiotics are out of the picture, as we are also made of living cells. You can kill a germ with hydrochloric acid, but that doesn't mean you should down the stuff with beer.
Luckily, bacteriophages are there to help us out. Now, I want a full report on chapter ten on my desk by tomorrow morning. Class dismissed!
(heh. I just taught Google chrome the word "bacteriophage."
Recently I was diagnosed with arthritis. It started in my left knee, but it is now in my hands and all my major joints. I've lost some weight (40+ pounds) and that has helped. Still have a long way to go.
Quote from: Velma on March 26, 2012, 10:00:08 AM
Recently I was diagnosed with arthritis. It started in my left knee, but it is now in my hands and all my major joints. I've lost some weight (40+ pounds) and that has helped. Still have a long way to go.
There's nothing like pain as an incentive. Did I say that?
Quote from: Tank on March 26, 2012, 11:25:21 AM
There's nothing like pain as an incentive. Did I say that?
Yes. Usually, losing weight requires some degree of suffering. It's only natural that one would need to escape from greater suffering in order to follow through.
Quote from: Velma on March 26, 2012, 10:00:08 AM
Recently I was diagnosed with arthritis. It started in my left knee, but it is now in my hands and all my major joints. I've lost some weight (40+ pounds) and that has helped. Still have a long way to go.
Congrats on your 40+ lbs weight loss! That is a wonderful achievement. I have joint problems too, which is one of the major reasons I am always trying to be mindful about keeping my weight down. The heavier I am, the worse I hurt.
Quote from: Tank on March 26, 2012, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: Velma on March 26, 2012, 10:00:08 AM
Recently I was diagnosed with arthritis. It started in my left knee, but it is now in my hands and all my major joints. I've lost some weight (40+ pounds) and that has helped. Still have a long way to go.
There's nothing like pain as an incentive. Did I say that?
Yes you did.
Right now I'm have about 30 pounds to go before I get back to where I was about three years ago.
Quote from: Velma on March 26, 2012, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: Tank on March 26, 2012, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: Velma on March 26, 2012, 10:00:08 AM
Recently I was diagnosed with arthritis. It started in my left knee, but it is now in my hands and all my major joints. I've lost some weight (40+ pounds) and that has helped. Still have a long way to go.
There's nothing like pain as an incentive. Did I say that?
Yes you did.
Right now I'm have about 30 pounds to go before I get back to where I was about three years ago.
Well keep up the good work! ;D
I might be getting carpal tunnel syndrome. But I can't help how fast I type. (67wpm. I want to get faster.)
On another note, both my knees are completely effed up. The right knee went when the kneecap was twisted around(there was a dog involved, I won't go into details), and the left knee was pretty much done in when the whole left side of my car(underneath the dashboard) collapsed in a frontal collision.
Two years+ physical therapy, and I am proud to say that I can now stand again. Unfortunately, I'll probably need a cane in the future, and It is doubtful if I can run or do anything strenous.
Quote from: The Semaestro on March 26, 2012, 09:12:11 PM
I might be getting carpal tunnel syndrome. But I can't help how fast I type. (67wpm. I want to get faster.)
On another note, both my knees are completely effed up. The right knee went when the kneecap was twisted around(there was a dog involved, I won't go into details), and the left knee was pretty much done in when the whole left side of my car(underneath the dashboard) collapsed in a frontal collision.
Two years+ physical therapy, and I am proud to say that I can now stand again. Unfortunately, I'll probably need a cane in the future, and It is doubtful if I can run or do anything strenous.
Wow! It sounds like you have been through a lot and have overcome a lot. :)
As for exercise, do you have access to a pool? Tank gave me that suggestion, because I also have effed up joints (although not anything to your level!) and when I do get a chance to swim and whatnot, it has not been hard on my joints (although it does make my muscles sore!)
I should probably exercise more, but I'm pretty slim already. I'm about 6'1'', and I eat a lot of cremá da árroz, cream of mushroom/wheat/oatmeal, and salads with avocado/tomato/etc. A recent pizza binge added on a few pounds, but even then, I'm a a slim 171 lbs.(Was previously 168 lbs).
As for pools, I hate pools. I'm like a cat.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F26.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m21eo1phlK1qcb5fko1_500.jpg&hash=1f61130bad67544afb66203caf3ad7e3e75f100c)
So...after months of my ankle going out on my even after I thought it was okay to exercise on again; I went to the doctor. Chronic ankle sprain, 4 weeks of physical therapy and should be able to run again without a brace if I follow instructions.
I've been having a hard time not maintaining my previous loss with not being able to do much real exercise (I'm one of those who does better exercising off the excess calories than trying to eat less). Going to find out monday what I'm allowed to do now. I tend to do things unless it hurts and so I need a professional to tell me where the line is. I hope I can be cleared to run by the end of april so I'll have plenty time to slim down before our anniversay beach trip. For now I'm going to up my efforts to eat right...starting working in an office again and getting home late with no time to really cook has not helped but I'm going to try to do some meal planning this weekend to fix that problem.
Drinking black tea (hot or cold) seems to take care of a lot of my food-related cravings. I know green tea is supposed to be the epoch of weight loss (just like acai berry ;D), but it works for me.
Quote from: Whitney on April 07, 2012, 10:23:20 PM
So...after months of my ankle going out on my even after I thought it was okay to exercise on again; I went to the doctor. Chronic ankle sprain, 4 weeks of physical therapy and should be able to run again without a brace if I follow instructions.
I've been having a hard time not maintaining my previous loss with not being able to do much real exercise (I'm one of those who does better exercising off the excess calories than trying to eat less). Going to find out monday what I'm allowed to do now. I tend to do things unless it hurts and so I need a professional to tell me where the line is. I hope I can be cleared to run by the end of april so I'll have plenty time to slim down before our anniversay beach trip. For now I'm going to up my efforts to eat right...starting working in an office again and getting home late with no time to really cook has not helped but I'm going to try to do some meal planning this weekend to fix that problem.
If your physical therapist is any good at all s/he should work with you to design exercises to do at home to get you back on your feet again. Also discuss your weight loss goals. The exercises may look simple, but they are very effective - I just finished six weeks of pt for my back.
Just made a really yummy dinner last night, so I thought that I would share.
Lemon-Thyme Sauteed Veggies
2 TB olive oil
1 TB lemon juice
1 TB chopped garlic
2 tsp chopped fresh thyme
Salt
Pepper
1 shallot, diced
1.5 cups shelled edamame beans (thawed, if frozen)
1.5 cups grape tomatoes, halved
2 zucchini
1/2 cup crumbled feta cheese
Heat up the olive oil in a large skillet over medium high heat. Add garlic, shallot, edamame, and grape tomatoes and sautee for about 4 minutes. In the meantime, use a veggie peeler to cut zucchini into ribbons (discard seeds in the middle.) Add zucchini ribbons, lemon juice, and thyme, and sautee for another 2-3 minutes. Remove from heat and put in a serving bowl. Stir in feta cheese and salt and pepper to taste.
I served with pearled couscous. Yummy!!!
Quote from: Ali on April 10, 2012, 04:48:54 PM
Just made a really yummy dinner last night, so I thought that I would share.
Lemon-Thyme Sauteed Veggies
2 TB olive oil
1 TB lemon juice
1 TB chopped garlic
2 tsp chopped fresh thyme
Salt
Pepper
1 shallot, diced
1.5 cups shelled edamame beans (thawed, if frozen)
1.5 cups grape tomatoes, halved
2 zucchini
1/2 cup crumbled feta cheese
Heat up the olive oil in a large skillet over medium high heat. Add garlic, shallot, edamame, and grape tomatoes and sautee for about 4 minutes. In the meantime, use a veggie peeler to cut zucchini into ribbons (discard seeds in the middle.) Add zucchini ribbons, lemon juice, and thyme, and sautee for another 2-3 minutes. Remove from heat and put in a serving bowl. Stir in feta cheese and salt and pepper to taste.
I served with pearled couscous. Yummy!!!
Um... Where does the meat go? Do you just serve a slab of it on the side, or chop it up and add to the mix? ???
Quote from: Ali on April 10, 2012, 04:48:54 PM
Just made a really yummy dinner last night, so I thought that I would share.
Lemon-Thyme Sauteed Veggies
2 TB olive oil
1 TB lemon juice
1 TB chopped garlic
2 tsp chopped fresh thyme
Salt
Pepper
1 shallot, diced
1.5 cups shelled edamame beans (thawed, if frozen)
1.5 cups grape tomatoes, halved
2 zucchini
1/2 cup crumbled feta cheese
Heat up the olive oil in a large skillet over medium high heat. Add garlic, shallot, edamame, and grape tomatoes and sautee for about 4 minutes. In the meantime, use a veggie peeler to cut zucchini into ribbons (discard seeds in the middle.) Add zucchini ribbons, lemon juice, and thyme, and sautee for another 2-3 minutes. Remove from heat and put in a serving bowl. Stir in feta cheese and salt and pepper to taste.
I served with pearled couscous. Yummy!!!
That sounds DELICIOUS. *drools*
*begins plotting out a revised grocery store list...*
Quote from: Asmodean on April 10, 2012, 04:59:16 PM
Quote from: Ali on April 10, 2012, 04:48:54 PM
Just made a really yummy dinner last night, so I thought that I would share.
Lemon-Thyme Sauteed Veggies
2 TB olive oil
1 TB lemon juice
1 TB chopped garlic
2 tsp chopped fresh thyme
Salt
Pepper
1 shallot, diced
1.5 cups shelled edamame beans (thawed, if frozen)
1.5 cups grape tomatoes, halved
2 zucchini
1/2 cup crumbled feta cheese
Heat up the olive oil in a large skillet over medium high heat. Add garlic, shallot, edamame, and grape tomatoes and sautee for about 4 minutes. In the meantime, use a veggie peeler to cut zucchini into ribbons (discard seeds in the middle.) Add zucchini ribbons, lemon juice, and thyme, and sautee for another 2-3 minutes. Remove from heat and put in a serving bowl. Stir in feta cheese and salt and pepper to taste.
I served with pearled couscous. Yummy!!!
Um... Where does the meat go? Do you just serve a slab of it on the side, or chop it up and add to the mix? ???
The meat stays on the cow, where it belongs. ;D
Quote from: Ali on April 10, 2012, 05:27:52 PM
The meat stays on the cow, where it belongs. ;D
Well that's no use!
Quote from: Ali on April 10, 2012, 04:48:54 PM
Lemon-Thyme Sauteed Veggies
Sounds lovely to me, you may like this lunch that is super easy to make and slightly similar, don't know its name though.
ingredients:
3 bell peppers (whatever colours you prefer but I recommend one yellow, two red)
about 5 spring onions
1 bay leaf
1 teaspoon brown sugar
2 tablespoons balsamic vinegar
olive oil
French or Italian bread
Pecorino Cheese
Wine (to drink, not cook)
How to:
1. Cover peppers in olive oil and grill on an open flame until roasted on all sides (you need to turn them).
2. Clean outside and inside of peppers when done and cut peppers into mirepoix.
3. Cut spring onions into thinnish slices and fry.
4. Add peppers, brown sugar, bay leaf, salt, pepper, and balsamic vinegar to frying pan when spring onions start to brown.
5. Fry until balsamic vinegar has evaporated.
6. Serve with good quality lightly toasted French or Italian bread, grated or shaved pecorino cheese and a glass of red wine.
[edit: also add a sprinkle of toasted sesame seeds to the veggies when cooked]
7. Eat.
I am now really hungry.
Yum Crow! That sounds really good (and I love that the recipe includes a glass of wine to drink :D) I will have to give it a try!
Quote from: Budhorse4 on April 10, 2012, 06:00:58 PM
Quote from: Ali on April 10, 2012, 05:27:52 PM
The meat stays on the cow, where it belongs. ;D
Well that's no use!
Exactly. >:(
Take meat from cow and serve a huge, well-roasted slab with that what you made there. Nice, yes? :)
Quote from: Asmodean on April 10, 2012, 08:33:37 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on April 10, 2012, 06:00:58 PM
Quote from: Ali on April 10, 2012, 05:27:52 PM
The meat stays on the cow, where it belongs. ;D
Well that's no use!
Exactly. >:(
Take meat from cow and serve a huge, well-roasted slab with that what you made there. Nice, yes? :)
How about some nice BBQ'ed shish kabobs to go with?
http://www.gardein.com/products.php?t=fresh&p=9
I'm curious if anyone who was interested looked deeper into the Primal Diet. If so, have you tired it and have you experienced any results? I haven't gotten sick since starting, but granted that could be nothing more than luck and coincidence. The lose of my beer belly isn't luck or coincidence though, while still drinking beer... which isn't allowed, but oh well.
Just a bit of encouragement (or shameful prodding) for those of us trying to stick to an exercise routine: 86-yr old gymnast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTWo9EfQ4Hc)
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 10, 2012, 09:02:20 PM
I'm curious if anyone who was interested looked deeper into the Primal Diet. If so, have you tired it and have you experienced any results? I haven't gotten sick since starting, but granted that could be nothing more than luck and coincidence. The lose of my beer belly isn't luck or coincidence though, while still drinking beer... which isn't allowed, but oh well.
I downloaded a couple of Mark Sisson's books (Mark's Daily Apple), he talks about the Primal Diet stuff. It sounds pretty cool so far, and what he says seems to make a lot of sense -- we really WEREN'T built to eat all the junk we eat. I haven't actually started the diet, but I'm planning to this summer when things are a little less busy.
Quote from: Ali on April 10, 2012, 08:38:16 PM
How about some nice BBQ'ed shish kabobs to go with?
http://www.gardein.com/products.php?t=fresh&p=9
That's not nice. A nice shishkebab is one you make yourself or buy at a proper kebab place.
Quote from: Asmodean on April 11, 2012, 07:05:30 AM
Quote from: Ali on April 10, 2012, 08:38:16 PM
How about some nice BBQ'ed shish kabobs to go with?
http://www.gardein.com/products.php?t=fresh&p=9
That's not nice. A nice shishkebab is one you make yourself or buy at a proper kebab place.
But I don't know how to make meatless meat! I think you're better off eating the prepackaged stuff I bought for you. ;D
Quote from: Ali on April 11, 2012, 05:27:22 PM
But I don't know how to make meatless meat! I think you're better off eating the prepackaged stuff I bought for you. ;D
Make meat out of meat. Not that difficult, that :D
Quote from: Amicale on April 11, 2012, 04:50:55 AM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 10, 2012, 09:02:20 PM
I'm curious if anyone who was interested looked deeper into the Primal Diet. If so, have you tired it and have you experienced any results? I haven't gotten sick since starting, but granted that could be nothing more than luck and coincidence. The lose of my beer belly isn't luck or coincidence though, while still drinking beer... which isn't allowed, but oh well.
I downloaded a couple of Mark Sisson's books (Mark's Daily Apple), he talks about the Primal Diet stuff. It sounds pretty cool so far, and what he says seems to make a lot of sense -- we really WEREN'T built to eat all the junk we eat. I haven't actually started the diet, but I'm planning to this summer when things are a little less busy.
Cool, let me know how it goes. We didn't realize quit how expensive it gets to switch from non-processed foods. Most of our meals consist of chicken now with some grass fed beef as a luxury. We have found a good bit of delicious Indian and Middle Eastern dishes that taste great and fit into the diet though.
I also learned that fresh homemade hashbrowns taste 500% better than Waffle House.
Quote from: Asmodean on April 11, 2012, 05:31:11 PM
Quote from: Ali on April 11, 2012, 05:27:22 PM
But I don't know how to make meatless meat! I think you're better off eating the prepackaged stuff I bought for you. ;D
Make meat out of meat. Not that difficult, that :D
Hmmmm.
Ooh, I've got it! I'll make you these...vegetarian...meatless...meatloaf....cupcakes. *Laughing* (Actually, I haven't looked at this recipe, but lentil loaf which is a kind of meatless meatloaf is quite good.)
http://www.squidoo.com/vegetarian-meatloaf (http://www.squidoo.com/vegetarian-meatloaf)
What time are you coming to dinner?
Quote from: The Ali on April 11, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
Hmmmm.
Ooh, I've got it! I'll make you these...vegetarian...meatless...meatloaf....cupcakes. *Laughing* (Actually, I haven't looked at this recipe, but lentil loaf which is a kind of meatless meatloaf is quite good.)
http://www.squidoo.com/vegetarian-meatloaf (http://www.squidoo.com/vegetarian-meatloaf)
What time are you coming to dinner?
Meatless meatloaf. Is that even possible?
Quote from: The Ali on April 11, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
What time are you coming to dinner?
A HUGE slab of actual meat, dripping with actual blood. Or The Asmo no come. >:(
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on April 11, 2012, 02:50:23 AM
Just a bit of encouragement (or shameful prodding) for those of us trying to stick to an exercise routine: 86-yr old gymnast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTWo9EfQ4Hc)
Pretty darn amazing. Thanks for sharing.
Quote from: Asmodean on April 12, 2012, 12:33:09 AM
Quote from: The Ali on April 11, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
What time are you coming to dinner?
A HUGE slab of actual meat, dripping with actual blood. Or The Asmo no come. >:(
Fine. We'll have a huge bloody drippy slab of meat for dinner.
And then a little gray ball of clay for dessert. >:(
Quote from: The Ali on April 12, 2012, 07:29:10 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 12, 2012, 12:33:09 AM
Quote from: The Ali on April 11, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
What time are you coming to dinner?
A HUGE slab of actual meat, dripping with actual blood. Or The Asmo no come. >:(
Fine. We'll have a huge bloody drippy slab of meat for dinner. And then a little gray ball of clay for dessert. >:(
I don't know how good clay would taste.
Quote from: Budhorse4 on April 12, 2012, 07:30:24 PM
Quote from: The Ali on April 12, 2012, 07:29:10 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 12, 2012, 12:33:09 AM
Quote from: The Ali on April 11, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
What time are you coming to dinner?
A HUGE slab of actual meat, dripping with actual blood. Or The Asmo no come. >:(
Fine. We'll have a huge bloody drippy slab of meat for dinner. And then a little gray ball of clay for dessert. >:(
I don't know how good clay would taste.
I'll just put a little lingonberry sauce on it. It'll be fine.
Quote from: The Ali on April 12, 2012, 07:29:10 PM
And then a little gray ball of clay for dessert. >:(
Dangerous. The Swarm(tm) could eat you alive from the inside. :D
Eating clay is good for you, according to Shirley. :D
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/clay2.htm (http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/clay2.htm)
ETA: (Sidenote: This maniac is feeding clay to her dog. Every day. :o "Note: I mixed a couple of teaspoons of clay into my dog's food and within days his stools were firm again. I continue to mix clay into his food everyday to provide him with important nutrients. Shirley")
Yes. Is good for you. You eat enough gray clay and mutate into an Asmominion! :D Eh... That is, Immunity! Yes, yes. It is good for immunity. And digestion. Absolutely safe, yes it is. ;D
Quote from: Asmodean on April 12, 2012, 10:44:50 PM
Yes. Is good for you. You eat enough gray clay and mutate into an Asmominion! :D Eh... That is, Immunity! Yes, yes. It is good for immunity. And digestion. Absolutely safe, yes it is. ;D
.........*suspicious eyes* Why do I suddenly suspect this is a trap? *suspicious eyes*
Quote from: Ali on April 12, 2012, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 12, 2012, 10:44:50 PM
Yes. Is good for you. You eat enough gray clay and mutate into an Asmominion! :D Eh... That is, Immunity! Yes, yes. It is good for immunity. And digestion. Absolutely safe, yes it is. ;D
.........*suspicious eyes* Why do I suddenly suspect this is a trap? *suspicious eyes*
Don't believe it.
It's fine. Juuuuust fine.
I ate blue modelling clay when I was 3.
Look how I turned out.
:D :D :D
I've been going to the gym consistently for a couple weeks now in addition to physical therapy. I put back on about 10lbs from not doing anything when my ankle started having issues but i can feel that it is coming back off again...however I'm going to avoid weighing myself for a while since I'm also incorporating weight lifting and don't want to get hung up on weight gain that isn't bad. I'm having to invest so much time and money into this ankle issue that I think it alone will be a good motivator to not get lazy later down the road....that and I don't want to have worse issues when I'm old.
My plan today was to take my new camera and go for a walk. Unfortunately, my arthritis acted up today, especially in my knees and hips. Hopefully, I can get out tomorrow.
Quote from: Velma on May 04, 2012, 05:44:00 AM
My plan today was to take my new camera and go for a walk. Unfortunately, my arthritis acted up today, especially in my knees and hips. Hopefully, I can get out tomorrow.
A new camera? Do tell!
Quote from: Tank on May 04, 2012, 06:28:41 AM
Quote from: Velma on May 04, 2012, 05:44:00 AM
My plan today was to take my new camera and go for a walk. Unfortunately, my arthritis acted up today, especially in my knees and hips. Hopefully, I can get out tomorrow.
A new camera? Do tell!
Nothing special. It's a Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS19K (http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMC-ZS19K?support) - a point-and-shoot megazoom. Bit simpler than my old one.
Quote from: Velma on May 04, 2012, 06:56:06 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 04, 2012, 06:28:41 AM
Quote from: Velma on May 04, 2012, 05:44:00 AM
My plan today was to take my new camera and go for a walk. Unfortunately, my arthritis acted up today, especially in my knees and hips. Hopefully, I can get out tomorrow.
A new camera? Do tell!
Nothing special. It's a Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS19K (http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMC-ZS19K?support) - a point-and-shoot megazoom. Bit simpler than my old one.
That looks quite decent for a carry-about camera. You'll have to post some pics when you have time.
There have been some interesting segments here lately.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/
The story on calorie restriction and/or intermittent fasting protecting against Alzheimer's was really interesting. From all the articles in the past few years, it sounds like calorie restriction has a whole host of health benefits. No way I could ever do it, though. I can exercise regularly with no problem, but I love to eat. Quality of life and all.
Quote from: Whitney on May 04, 2012, 03:22:09 AM
I've been going to the gym consistently for a couple weeks now in addition to physical therapy. I put back on about 10lbs from not doing anything when my ankle started having issues but i can feel that it is coming back off again...however I'm going to avoid weighing myself for a while since I'm also incorporating weight lifting and don't want to get hung up on weight gain that isn't bad. I'm having to invest so much time and money into this ankle issue that I think it alone will be a good motivator to not get lazy later down the road....that and I don't want to have worse issues when I'm old.
I've been hitting the gym consistently again too. I had a long stint without a car of my own because Suzukis are evil and it sat in a shop for over two months plus I got my yearly ass-kicking illness on top of that. So I eventually made it back to the gym and am lifting mostly and doing a bit of treadmill afterwards. I also started doing some bodyweight exercises - mostly old school bootcamp stuff (the real bootcamp where someone's yelling at you with threats of bodily harm and not the one on TV where they have camo spandex bike shorts and headsets) and slowly trying to bring back some of my old shaolin drills. All this was much easier 12 years ago...
I've also started eating more veggies like spinach, carrots, tomatoes, peppers, etc. As for supplements, so far I'm just taking a multivitamin and green tea extract. I'm going to add BCAAs as soon as I can grab some from one of the health stores.
Considering going to get a snack. I've been watching what I eat the last couple of days because I tried on some capris at Target on Sunday and the size I usually wear was a bit snug. Not that I'm obsessing about my weight or anything, but I do try to monitor and get things under control before it becomes a big problem. I'd rather lose 5 lbs now than have 20 to lose later.
Anyway, had a bagel with cream cheese and fruit for breakfast, and a big salad with egg and cheese and more fruit for lunch. Per my calorie counter I'm at 900+ calories, so it's not like I'm starving, and I still have a good 600-800 to spend for the rest of the night to stay within my goal. But my MIL is bringing me dinner, so not sure what that is going to be (might take up the rest of my calories!)
I think I'll drink a glass of water and go for a walk. If I'm still hungry after that I'll go get some trail mix out of the vending machine. Not the lowest cal thing I could find, but the nuts and fruit should have more nutritional value than a candy bar or a bag of chips. I hope. LOL
I hear you, Ali. I'm normally pretty balanced in my eating, but I have to watch myself. I have been known to binge on chocolate/sweets from time to time. There was an infamous Easter weekend when the husband and I ate an entire 1.2 kilogram bag of mini-eggs in about 72 hours. It was baaaaad.
Oh man. You know what I love? Those Cadbury Creme eggs that they sell around Easter....*drool* I could easily eat about a kilo of those in a weekend....
Quote from: Ali on June 05, 2012, 11:08:05 PM
Oh man. You know what I love? Those Cadbury Creme eggs that they sell around Easter....*drool* I could easily eat about a kilo of those in a weekend....
Welcome to type 2 diabetes!!!
Quote from: Tank on June 06, 2012, 02:27:38 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 05, 2012, 11:08:05 PM
Oh man. You know what I love? Those Cadbury Creme eggs that they sell around Easter....*drool* I could easily eat about a kilo of those in a weekend....
Welcome to type 2 diabetes!!!
Hahaha! Lucky for me, they only come out once a year. Unfortunately for me, my darling husband knows how much I love them and always comes back with at least one when he goes to the store during that time of year.
Quote from: Ali on June 06, 2012, 03:56:25 PM
Quote from: Tank on June 06, 2012, 02:27:38 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 05, 2012, 11:08:05 PM
Oh man. You know what I love? Those Cadbury Creme eggs that they sell around Easter....*drool* I could easily eat about a kilo of those in a weekend....
Welcome to type 2 diabetes!!!
Hahaha! Lucky for me, they only come out once a year. Unfortunately for me, my darling husband knows how much I love them and always comes back with at least one when he goes to the store during that time of year.
I shouldn't do this to you, but I cannot but point out that round here anyway, Frys Chocolate Cream Bars which offer a similarly sinful but seductive combination of chocolate and goo, are available the whole year round.
Quote from: En_Route on June 06, 2012, 04:32:42 PM
I shouldn't do this to you, but I cannot but point out that round here anyway, Frys Chocolate Cream Bars which offer a similarly sinful but seductive combination of chocolate and goo, are available the whole year round.
They still sell them! where? I haven't seen them for years, the orange were my favorite. But you can buy cream eggs and the bar versions of them year round here (oh and mini eggs as well).
Quote from: Crow on June 06, 2012, 04:44:56 PM
Quote from: En_Route on June 06, 2012, 04:32:42 PM
I shouldn't do this to you, but I cannot but point out that round here anyway, Frys Chocolate Cream Bars which offer a similarly sinful but seductive combination of chocolate and goo, are available the whole year round.
They still sell them! where? I haven't seen them for years, the orange were my favorite. But you can buy cream eggs and the bar versions of them year round here (oh and mini eggs as well).
Here in Northern Ireland they are freely available, tribute to our infatuation with tradition and historic continuity.
I'm about to go sneak out of work for about an hour to hit the gym. It's my lunch hour! (or something.) Yesterday I discovered a setting on the elliptical machine that works out multiple muscle groups (first you stride forward, then backwards, then stand on the sides and just work your arms, then stride forward on your toes, et cetera.) It's actually kind of fun, and changing things up every couple of minutes prevents me from getting bored. I love it when I actually look forward to going to the gym...
Good on ya!
I have finally come to accept that I just can't be a gym person. I just... can't. I hate it so much, no matter what I do. I'm always a little envious of people who find ways to enjoy it.
The only exercise machine I've ever tried that I've actually enjoying is the rowing machine. Something about it is just . . . soothing. I'd buy my own if I had a place to put it in my small apartment.
I like the rowing machine too. The one at my gym that I sometimes use has this amusing little fishing game that makes it even more fun. You row faster or slower to get the hook in the right place to catch passing fish. Very pleasant.
I never used to be a gym person, but I found that I'm even less of a "starvation" person and I have a hard time losing/maintaining my weight any other way than putting in regular hours at the gym. After a while I came to kind of appreciate the ritual of going to the gym. I can watch whatever I want on TV (usually) and just kind of turn my mind off for an hour. Plus they have fans in the cardio room! So you can literally work out in front of your own TV with a fan pointed at you the whole time. If you're going to have to work out, that is the way to do it if you ask me.
I am not much of a gym person. I go to ours every once in a while to use the pool, but other than that I do my own thing. Working with Cash has helped me to get in shape because I am doing more running with him.
I think that if "life" gets you plenty of exercise, that is the best case scenario. Unfortunately, my life is rather sedentary so I have to make a special effort to work out. I've also heard that horseback riding is great exercise. Do you find that to be true?
It is great for leg muscles and balance. Especially if you ride English. On hot days especially I feel like I sweat out about 5 kilos of weight. The shows are what get you, 35oC and black jackets nearly kill. :D
If anyone has a Tumblr account, this is my favourite fitness blog: fitvillains.tumblr.com
She posts awesome stuff like different workouts, playlists, articles, and recipes to get you motivated to workout :)
Anybody got any good chicken recipes? I have been craving a nice chicken wrap all day and it made me want to try my hand at other yummy chicken meals.
Quote from: Budhorse4 on June 16, 2012, 05:53:53 AM
Anybody got any good chicken recipes? I have been craving a nice chicken wrap all day and it made me want to try my hand at other yummy chicken meals.
This one is good: http://pinterest.com/pin/62768988526160091/
You can make the chicken ahead of time, freeze the breasts individually then just put what you need into the crock pot (still frozen but unwrapped) before going to work. It extends the cooking time (to like 9 to 10 hours) if they are frozen but very few of us leave the house then get back just 8 hours later.
btw, even if you don't like goat cheese, try it anyway...my husband ate it and he's picky. Otherwise just use more parm.
Quote from: Whitney on June 16, 2012, 05:20:10 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on June 16, 2012, 05:53:53 AM
Anybody got any good chicken recipes? I have been craving a nice chicken wrap all day and it made me want to try my hand at other yummy chicken meals.
This one is good: http://pinterest.com/pin/62768988526160091/
You can make the chicken ahead of time, freeze the breasts individually then just put what you need into the crock pot (still frozen but unwrapped) before going to work. It extends the cooking time (to like 9 to 10 hours) if they are frozen but very few of us leave the house then get back just 8 hours later.
btw, even if you don't like goat cheese, try it anyway...my husband ate it and he's picky. Otherwise just use more parm.
Oooh that sounds really good. I love goat cheese, so no worries there.
I had to take my car in this morning to get the snow tires off (yes, I'm aware it's mid-June, I'm just a terrible procrastinator.) Anyway, I knew it was going to be about an hour, and I also knew I wasn't going to have time to hit the gym, so I brought my music and gym shoes and walked a nearby bike/runners path for the hour. Was nice, although weirdly I got a blister on my heel for my troubles. I wear those shoes all the time, so not sure what the problem there was. Now am thinking about having a smoothie for lunch.
Quote from: Budhorse4 on June 16, 2012, 05:53:53 AM
Anybody got any good chicken recipes? I have been craving a nice chicken wrap all day and it made me want to try my hand at other yummy chicken meals.
One of my current favorites and easiest meals which is also very healthy.
Grilled Chicken with the best roast vegetables you will ever eat.(especially if you like lemon)
Ingredients:
• Skinless and boneless chicken breast (butterflied).
• 2 bell peppers (red & yellow cut into medium sized cubes)
• 1 red onion (cut into medium sized cubes)
• 5 cloves of garlic (give them right good crush)
• 5 spears of asparagus (just get rid of woody bit)
• 1 unwaxed lemon (halfed)
• fresh thyme (handfull)
• fresh rosemary (handfull)
• olive oil (add to your preference but make sure its just the normal stuff as you are cooking with it)
• balsamic vinegar (add to your preference - about a tablespoon)
• sea salt and black pepper for seasoning
How to:
• add all your veg and herbs to a roasting tin.
• pour over olive oil so its dressed, add balsamic vinegar and salt.
• give it a good mix with your hands and makes sure everything is evenly spaced.
• place halves of lemon in tin, open side facing up.
• stick in preheated oven for about 20 - 30 mins at around 200 degrees (adjust if it looks like its cooking too quick or slow whilst doing chicken.
• apply seasoning to both sides of chicken and slap on gas grill at a medium heat.
• flip when looking crispy and do the same to other side.
• when done remove from grill and place on a plate to rest for a few mins.
• when veg is done, give it another mix.
• place onion, garlic, and bell peppers on plate as a bed.
• place asparagus on top of this.
• squeeze one half of lemon over this.
• place chicken breast on top of veg and squeeze other half of lemon over.
• season.
• eat with a good IPA or crisp white wine.
Sounds good, Crow!
Eating oatmeal with dried fruit, nuts, and brown sugar, plus some fresh fruit salad. *Drool* I must have been running a little low on protein because the nut bites are toe curlingly good.
Quote from: Ali on June 19, 2012, 04:18:57 PM
Eating oatmeal with dried fruit, nuts, and brown sugar, plus some fresh fruit salad. *Drool* I must have been running a little low on protein because the nut bites are toe curlingly good.
Generally I don't care for nuts in my oatmeal, but that did sound delicious. Must have been the *drool* that did it.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on June 20, 2012, 02:41:13 AM
Quote from: Ali on June 19, 2012, 04:18:57 PM
Eating oatmeal with dried fruit, nuts, and brown sugar, plus some fresh fruit salad. *Drool* I must have been running a little low on protein because the nut bites are toe curlingly good.
Generally I don't care for nuts in my oatmeal, but that did sound delicious. Must have been the *drool* that did it.
That's funny because I usually dislike oatmeal but she made it sound good to me too.
You gals were right to think my oatmeal sounded good. It was awesome.
Making my chicken wraps tonight after a week of wanting them. I am so pumped!
What do you put on your wraps? I've been breaking down and eating meat more lately. So uh, tell me about this chicken thing. ;D
As for me, this doesn't qualify as healthy food, but I just read about mini grilled cheese and guacamole sandwiches. I want them. I want them now.
I put in some grilled chicken, romaine lettuce, bacon, sharp cheddar and a little bit of honey mustard. It is really good both hot and cold.
I went for an hour and a half walk with wee man this afternoon. Pulling a 30 pound kiddo around in a wagon is a great way to work out your arms and shoulders. :D
My workouts come from walking and running with my one year old dog. He works my Butt off. About four times a day he wants to play ball or go running, if I am up to it play Frisbee. I get him out at 6:00 in the morning, and home at lunch to give him a break than twice when I get home in the evening. I do about two to three miles with him. He would like it to 5 to 10 LOL. It no wonder people with pets live longer.
Quote from: cncracer on June 25, 2012, 02:14:25 AM
My workouts come from walking and running with my one year old dog. He works my Butt off. About four times a day he wants to play ball or go running, if I am up to it play Frisbee. I get him out at 6:00 in the morning, and home at lunch to give him a break than twice when I get home in the evening. I do about two to three miles with him. He would like it to 5 to 10 LOL. It no wonder people with pets live longer.
Or die of exhaustion!!!
I have two dogs ;D
How goes the vegetarian diet and any tips?
Quote from: Java on June 26, 2012, 07:14:05 AM
How goes the vegetarian diet and any tips?
Yes, Asmo has a tip: Take the veggies and replace them with meat products. Deep fry for maximum levels of cancerogens and... Enjoy! :D
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According to my Heart-rate monitor I clocked over 6000Kcals on my 8-hour Saturday ride - I certainly ate that many over the day.
Back to the road bike for July though. I'm sooooo over mud!
Quote from: Scissorlegs on June 26, 2012, 05:55:57 PM
According to my Heart-rate monitor I clocked over 6000Kcals on my 8-hour Saturday ride - I certainly ate that many over the day.
Back to the road bike for July though. I'm sooooo over mud!
That's awesome! Sometimes when I'm exercising I give myself incentive to keep going by thinking inane things like "Just think, you could eat an extra half of a Qdoba burrito with all the cals you're burning." Not that anyone has ever been able more than 1 Qdoba burrito anyway, but for some reason that has become my standard unit of measurement in calorie burning. To illustrate: "Great Job Scissorlegs! You could eat an extra 6 Qdoba burritos with all of those calories you burned!"
Quote from: Ali on July 02, 2012, 06:17:49 PM
To illustrate: "Great Job Scissorlegs! You could eat an extra 6 Qdoba burritos with all of those calories you burned!"
I like it! ...or maybe 14 sticks of Italian hard liquorice. Now THERE'S incentive, don't you think, Ali?! ;)
*shudder* I think I'd rather lay on the couch under a fan... ;D
Just got back from a workout. Per heart monitor, burned about .6 of a Qdoba burrito, or 1.5 stick of hard Italian licorice. They are seriously like 400+ cals per stick, Siz? Yet another reason to avoid them like the plague.
Counting calories? Seriously..? ???
Quote from: Ali on July 03, 2012, 08:44:08 PM
Just got back from a workout. Per heart monitor, burned about .6 of a Qdoba burrito, or 1.5 stick of hard Italian licorice. They are seriously like 400+ cals per stick, Siz? Yet another reason to avoid them like the plague.
If I'd have known I'd be tested... OK, after some research I can confirm that one of my sticks would be about 80kcals. So, around 7.5 sticks per 600kcals. So you can enjoy with impunity, Ali ;D
That's a decent workout and gotta be worth the free half a burrito. Keep it up...
Quote from: Asmodean on July 03, 2012, 09:25:09 PM
Counting calories? Seriously..? ???
Yes, but far from seriously ;D
Quote from: Asmodean on July 03, 2012, 09:25:09 PM
Counting calories? Seriously..? ???
I like to keep a vague awareness of my calorie intake -- only because I know I could eat 4,000 calories a day if I let myself. Which would be bad.
Quote from: Asmodean on July 03, 2012, 09:25:09 PM
Counting calories? Seriously..? ???
Yes, seriously! I have to stay on top of my diet and exercise, and (a big part of) staying on top of it is being aware of it. If you don't need to count calories to stay at your healthy weight, I am glad for you. I'm not that fortunate.
I don't need to count them, no. More importantly, I don't really care whether or not my weight is healthy.
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 02:31:49 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on July 03, 2012, 09:25:09 PM
Counting calories? Seriously..? ???
Yes, seriously! I have to stay on top of my diet and exercise, and (a big part of) staying on top of it is being aware of it. If you don't need to count calories to stay at your healthy weight, I am glad for you. I'm not that fortunate.
What you need is to speed up your metabolism. Calorie counting can actually be detrimental to this because your body gets less fuel therefore your body thinks its starving and slows down the metabolism so you burn less calories, when your body thinks its starving it actually tries to keep as much energy in reserve as possible, then when you eat more than you normally would boom those carbs are going straight to fat.
Fast powerful short exercise that boost fast twitch muscle over slow twitch is only really the proper way to loose weight and maintain it. A lot of people think exercise the first thing in the morning and lots of it is the best method, that's rubbish; exercise done in the middle of the day for ten mins (or until knackered if that comes first) is far better or if work doesn't permit that then in the evening with every other day of rest from exercise so your muscles can heal.
It is important to eat the recommended daily amount of carbs but if you need to cut down do this over a long period of time so your body adjusts to the change. Sugar is one of the main problems in peoples diets far more so than fat so if you feel like you are overly hungry it usually means you have too much sugar in your diet but don't cut it out slowly reduce it. Also make sure you are eating protein and calcium as they are really important for muscles and when are muscles have the correct sustenance the metabolism becomes faster, this doesn't mean eating only meat and cheese but rather make sure you have a small helping of nuts or beans and soft cheeses on the side. Make sure you eat good carbs I personally think a mix is better rather than just eating brown everything. Also make sure rather than eating 3 meals through the day break those meals down into 5 smaller meals.
I think I remember you talking about having a problem with your knee ages ago? If that is the case try exercising without shoes, that will force your foot into positions that don't put excessive strain on your knees. Also give Kinesio tape a try for when you exercise it might just help.
Crow, thanks for the info. I have an auto immune thing that attacks my joints and also my thyroid, which is what really slows my metabolism down. I've found that eating around 1700-1900 calories (not that much less than the recommended 2000) and getting plenty of exercise is the most effective way for me to manage it (as well as taking my meds.) I try to walk for at least a half an hour (usually more like an hour) a day, and then also do about an hour of cardio about 4 times a week. I want to also take up some weight training. Now that it's summer and I have more time, I think I'll try adding a couple of days of free weights to the whole routine. My whole routine doesn't make me "skinny", but I am healthy and strong and that's enough for me.
I try to focus on whole foods as much as possible, and avoid a lot of pre-packaged stuff. My one big weakness is ice cream. I freaking love ice cream, and probably eat it more often than I should. But I figure that a life devoid of ice cream would kind of not be worth continuing. LOL
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 03:54:46 PM
Crow, thanks for the info. I have an auto immune thing that attacks my joints and also my thyroid, which is what really slows my metabolism down.
That sounds pretty grim, must make keeping your weight under control a chore.
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 03:54:46 PM
Now that it's summer and I have more time, I think I'll try adding a couple of days of free weights to the whole routine. My whole routine doesn't make me "skinny", but I am healthy and strong and that's enough for me.
Rather than adding free weights in as that focuses on slow twitch and can make you look like a mini she-hulk whilst doing serious damage to your tendons (which I cant imagine being a good thing if you have joint problems), add light weights into the exercises you already do, for example if you do squats hold light weights, I'm sure you get the idea. It's adding this weight and unusual balance that strengthens the muscles in a way that is actually practical rather than just trying to make them look hench. It works on the fast twitch muscles which produce the chemicals for increasing your metabolism, this will also help your joints as it strengthens the tendons.
Quote from: Crow on July 04, 2012, 04:22:41 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 03:54:46 PM
Crow, thanks for the info. I have an auto immune thing that attacks my joints and also my thyroid, which is what really slows my metabolism down.
That sounds pretty grim, must make keeping your weight under control a chore.
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 03:54:46 PM
Now that it's summer and I have more time, I think I'll try adding a couple of days of free weights to the whole routine. My whole routine doesn't make me "skinny", but I am healthy and strong and that's enough for me.
Rather than adding free weights in as that focuses on slow twitch and can make you look like a mini she-hulk whilst doing serious damage to your tendons (which I cant imagine being a good thing if you have joint problems), add light weights into the exercises you already do, for example if you do squats hold light weights, I'm sure you get the idea. It's adding this weight and unusual balance that strengthens the muscles in a way that is actually practical rather than just trying to make them look hench. It works on the fast twitch muscles which produce the chemicals for increasing your metabolism, this will also help your joints as it strengthens the tendons.
Haha, definitely have no desire to hulk out! Thanks for the advice, it would definitely be easier to add light weights to my existing routine anyway. The reason I wanted to do weights was to strengthen my muscles to add more stability to my joints, so that's great info.
I lost two pounds this week by accidently giving myself food poisoning. I would not recommend this method. :(
Quote from: Crow on July 04, 2012, 04:22:41 PM
Rather than adding free weights in as that focuses on slow twitch and can make you look like a mini she-hulk whilst doing serious damage to your tendons (which I cant imagine being a good thing if you have joint problems), add light weights into the exercises you already do, for example if you do squats hold light weights, I'm sure you get the idea.
When you say light weight vs. free weight, do you mean those things that strap around the wrist and ankle? I was wondering if those were actually useful since they'd be a lot easier for me (I tend to drop even a 5 lb weight).
I don't count calories either -- not because I don't need to but because it drives me crazy to do it and makes me discard the whole dieting thing faster in sulky reaction. I just try to do what my girlfriend does: eat mostly healthy foods and exercise regularly. She's better at it than I am but then she needs to keep on top of her weight because of diabetes whereas I just have my knees to think about.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on July 04, 2012, 06:15:53 PM
When you say light weight vs. free weight, do you mean those things that strap around the wrist and ankle? I was wondering if those were actually useful since they'd be a lot easier for me (I tend to drop even a 5 lb weight).
If they work better for you then go for it, but if you go for small dumbbells there is a wider variety of exercises you can do with them, they are also better at strengthening your wrist and hand muscles. Just remember to go for high intensity workouts.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on July 04, 2012, 06:15:53 PM
I don't count calories either -- not because I don't need to but because it drives me crazy to do it and makes me discard the whole dieting thing faster in sulky reaction. I just try to do what my girlfriend does: eat mostly healthy foods and exercise regularly. She's better at it than I am but then she needs to keep on top of her weight because of diabetes whereas I just have my knees to think about.
I knew somebody had mentioned they were having trouble with their knees. Try barefooted exercise if possible, you should notice that your Tibialis Anterior and Calf muscles working much more than when using kicks and less impact on your knees. Kinesio tape is good for giving you that little bit of support and I have found the stuff to work and prefer it over other types of support.
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 04, 2012, 05:36:58 PM
I lost two pounds this week by accidently giving myself food poisoning. I would not recommend this method. :(
Oooh, no, that's got to be the very hardest way to lose two pounds, other than cutting off some fingers or something. Hope you are feeling better!
Just got back from the gym. Feeling quite pleased with myself. According to the Elliptical machine I was on, I did 6.34 miles in 65 minutes. Well done, me! That's .8 of a burrito. LOL!
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 07:11:00 PM
Just got back from the gym. Feeling quite pleased with myself. According to the Elliptical machine I was on, I did 6.34 miles in 65 minutes. Well done, me! That's .8 of a burrito. LOL!
Congrats! Next, the whole burrito.
Hahaha, "The Whole Burrito Workout" could be the next big thing! :D
Haha, that would be awesome. I'm picturing normal looking women in baggy T shirts and shorts in the workout video (instead of those insanely fit types in sports bras and tiny spandex pants.) I would be in front center cheering people to keep going saying "Just think! After this tape is over, you could eat a whole extra burrito if you wanted to! Add weights to this set, and you could add sour cream!" ;D ;D
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 07:54:07 PM
Haha, that would be awesome. I'm picturing normal looking women in baggy T shirts and shorts in the workout video (instead of those insanely fit types in sports bras and tiny spandex pants.) I would be in front center cheering people to keep going saying "Just think! After this tape is over, you could eat a whole extra burrito if you wanted to! Add weights to this set, and you could add sour cream!" ;D ;D
That would so work for me. :D
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 04, 2012, 05:36:58 PM
I lost two pounds this week by accidently giving myself food poisoning. I would not recommend this method. :(
Well I'm glad it was accidental, I wouldn't like you doing it deliberately! ;)
Quote from: Tank on July 04, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 04, 2012, 05:36:58 PM
I lost two pounds this week by accidently giving myself food poisoning. I would not recommend this method. :(
Well I'm glad it was accidental, I wouldn't like you doing it deliberately! ;)
I've heard of people doing it to lose weight! They're probably crazy, but still. Always good to clarify. I wouldn't want you all to question my sanity, now would I? ;D
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 04, 2012, 09:31:06 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 04, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 04, 2012, 05:36:58 PM
I lost two pounds this week by accidently giving myself food poisoning. I would not recommend this method. :(
Well I'm glad it was accidental, I wouldn't like you doing it deliberately! ;)
I've heard of people doing it to lose weight! They're probably crazy, but still. Always good to clarify. I wouldn't want you all to question my sanity, now would I? ;D
As if.
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 04, 2012, 09:31:06 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 04, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 04, 2012, 05:36:58 PM
I lost two pounds this week by accidently giving myself food poisoning. I would not recommend this method. :(
Well I'm glad it was accidental, I wouldn't like you doing it deliberately! ;)
I've heard of people doing it to lose weight! They're probably crazy, but still. Always good to clarify. I wouldn't want you all to question my sanity, now would I? ;D
No. We wouldn't want people to consider you sane would we ;)
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 04, 2012, 07:27:42 PM
Hahaha, "The Whole Burrito Workout" could be the next big thing! :D
I'll be up to doing that.
Ooooh, did some resistance training yesterday. I don't know what they are called, but the muscles in my sides (right on top of the ribs, but toward the back of my sides) HURT whenever I move. I guess that means that I did well...
obliques :)
When I was regularly bell-dancing, it used to KILL my obliques. In a good way.
You did belly dancing? How fun! I have always wanted to take a class, but haven't found one locally that works with my schedule. Did you like it?
Quote from: Ali on July 06, 2012, 06:24:27 PM
You did belly dancing? How fun! I have always wanted to take a class, but haven't found one locally that works with my schedule. Did you like it?
Yeah! I loved it! I took classes for over a year in Newfoundland and started a semester here in Ottawa, but my instructor didn't seem to take it all that seriously and I started my tech-writing program, so I'm on a hiatus this year. It's a really body friendly activity, actually. It's easily modulated for all body types and abilities; it's easy on joints, you can avoid "problem" areas if you need to. Everyone is wary about having to show their dreaded mid-drift at first, but it's never forced on anyone -- it's all very body positive. At least in my experience :) I think some of the moves actually look better if the woman has a little bit of flesh on her bones. I've heard really slim belly dancers complain that their undulations don't look as good as some of the thicker dancers' :D
I've lost 13 pounds since starting Weight Watchers a month ago. Which is nice. I have a lot more I'd like to lose, since my healthy weight range is supposed to be 159-189, and I'm currently around 229 (I started at 242). Still can't really see the progress, which is not so nice. But I'm still pleased.
Quote from: The Black Jester on July 09, 2012, 07:00:26 PM
I've lost 13 pounds since starting Weight Watchers a month ago. Which is nice. I have a lot more I'd like to lose, since my healthy weight range is supposed to be 159-189, and I'm currently around 229 (I started at 242). Still can't really see the progress, which is not so nice. But I'm still pleased.
Congratulations on losing those pounds, firstly! As a successful WW "loser" in the past, I want to encourage you to keep at it. I'm willing to bet that like me, you didn't put on the extra pounds all at once, so give yourself permission to take lots of time getting rid of them.
I'll be entering the fray again, because a few years after I stopped going to my local WW meetings I began to find those lost pounds. So I've got to do some work again to get back on track.
We have the same weight range, btw. Hope to see it again on the bathroom scale some time!
Quote from: The Black Jester on July 09, 2012, 07:00:26 PM
I've lost 13 pounds since starting Weight Watchers a month ago. Which is nice. I have a lot more I'd like to lose, since my healthy weight range is supposed to be 159-189, and I'm currently around 229 (I started at 242). Still can't really see the progress, which is not so nice. But I'm still pleased.
It's always harder to notice weight loss on yourself. I lost 30lbs of baby weight (not including the actual baby - haha) and I found it really difficult to see the difference, at the time. It's only now, when I look back at pictures that I'm like "yep! Definitely did lose the weight!" 13 lbs in a month is awesome.
Quote from: McQ on July 10, 2012, 03:01:00 AM
Quote from: The Black Jester on July 09, 2012, 07:00:26 PM
I've lost 13 pounds since starting Weight Watchers a month ago. Which is nice. I have a lot more I'd like to lose, since my healthy weight range is supposed to be 159-189, and I'm currently around 229 (I started at 242). Still can't really see the progress, which is not so nice. But I'm still pleased.
Congratulations on losing those pounds, firstly! As a successful WW "loser" in the past, I want to encourage you to keep at it. I'm willing to bet that like me, you didn't put on the extra pounds all at once, so give yourself permission to take lots of time getting rid of them.
I'll be entering the fray again, because a few years after I stopped going to my local WW meetings I began to find those lost pounds. So I've got to do some work again to get back on track.
We have the same weight range, btw. Hope to see it again on the bathroom scale some time!
You are indeed correct, sir, the pounds did creep up slowly, like a thousand tiny little fat ninjas. Thanks for the encouragement, it is much appreciated. I am definitely cognizant of the dangers of wanting to shed it all too quickly. Therein, madness (and likely failure) lies. Still, it's difficult to be patient. I want my change NOW, damnit!
Good luck in your efforts as well!
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 10, 2012, 03:06:28 AM
Quote from: The Black Jester on July 09, 2012, 07:00:26 PM
I've lost 13 pounds since starting Weight Watchers a month ago. Which is nice. I have a lot more I'd like to lose, since my healthy weight range is supposed to be 159-189, and I'm currently around 229 (I started at 242). Still can't really see the progress, which is not so nice. But I'm still pleased.
It's always harder to notice weight loss on yourself. I lost 30lbs of baby weight (not including the actual baby - haha) and I found it really difficult to see the difference, at the time. It's only now, when I look back at pictures that I'm like "yep! Definitely did lose the weight!" 13 lbs in a month is awesome.
30lbs is awesome! Good for you!
Yes, indeed: my wife says she's noticed the difference, but I have to take her word for it. My suspicion is that this has to do with how relatively slowly any change in weight takes place, when compared with how rapidly we normalize our image of ourselves. We don't store multiple self-conceptions in memory, we have only the day's impression from which to work, which is why photographic evidence is often required to show progression. That's my guess, anyway.
Quote from: The Black Jester on July 09, 2012, 07:00:26 PM
I've lost 13 pounds since starting Weight Watchers a month ago. Which is nice. I have a lot more I'd like to lose, since my healthy weight range is supposed to be 159-189, and I'm currently around 229 (I started at 242). Still can't really see the progress, which is not so nice. But I'm still pleased.
Nice one! just under a stone in a month is impressive.
Have you also included exercise or is that purely a WW diet? Try this (http://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/interval-training-workouts) out if you haven't including exercise yet. Its pretty much what a personal trainer will start you with, minus them kicking your arse.
Jester - you're doing awesome! Keep it up!!!
Haha Crow, I read the article you linked, and then I read another article from Men's Health: The Worst Food in America. I was laughing, but also getting kind of mad, like who crams 2700 calories in one dish? What kind of deviant thought that up? Grrrrr, this is why Americans are so freakin' hefty.
Quote from: Ali on July 11, 2012, 01:16:22 AM
Jester - you're doing awesome! Keep it up!!!
Haha Crow, I read the article you linked, and then I read another article from Men's Health: The Worst Food in America. I was laughing, but also getting kind of mad, like who crams 2700 calories in one dish? What kind of deviant thought that up? Grrrrr, this is why Americans are so freakin' hefty.
Some of those foods were pretty shocking. Though, I don't know that I cared for the author's tone. He/she writes as though you've got to be a horrible person to eat these things: "Frying anything is a bad idea, but frying fish is a debasement of one of nature's purest foods." Debasement?
Really? It's fish, b'y! I try to eat as healthy as the next person, but if I had to live a life without the occasional fish 'n chips or brownie sundae, you might as well shoot me now. :P
I saw a website claiming to sell the world's largest gummy bear. It was 36,000 calories. :o
Quote from: Ali on July 11, 2012, 01:16:22 AM
Haha Crow, I read the article you linked, and then I read another article from Men's Health: The Worst Food in America. I was laughing, but also getting kind of mad, like who crams 2700 calories in one dish? What kind of deviant thought that up? Grrrrr, this is why Americans are so freakin' hefty.
Yeah Men's Health is a pretty bad magazine but the exercise information is always correct and up to date with the science. I bet the foods actuallly look the pictures as well, just an orange stodge.
How to make your own salad dressing:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/06/27/should_you_make_vinaigrette_yes_always_.html?wpisrc=obnetwork (http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/06/27/should_you_make_vinaigrette_yes_always_.html?wpisrc=obnetwork)
I'm also a fan of homemade vinaigrettes. I use my mini-Cuisinart (easier to clean than a blender) and typically use extra virgin olive oil, balsamic vinegar, dijon mustard, soy sauce, garlic, and then whatever else I feel like (marinated artichoke hearts make a yummy addition).
Quote from: Crow on July 10, 2012, 11:51:28 PM
Quote from: The Black Jester on July 09, 2012, 07:00:26 PM
I've lost 13 pounds since starting Weight Watchers a month ago. Which is nice. I have a lot more I'd like to lose, since my healthy weight range is supposed to be 159-189, and I'm currently around 229 (I started at 242). Still can't really see the progress, which is not so nice. But I'm still pleased.
Nice one! just under a stone in a month is impressive.
Have you also included exercise or is that purely a WW diet? Try this (http://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/interval-training-workouts) out if you haven't including exercise yet. Its pretty much what a personal trainer will start you with, minus them kicking your arse.
Thanks Crow! I've not included exercise at the moment, other than easy hikes around the hills near Santa Fe. I am definitely familiar with interval training, which is awesome for dropping pounds, but also for dropping dead. I definitely hope to work back up to being able to handle that kind of a routine.
Quote from: Ali on July 11, 2012, 01:16:22 AM
Jester - you're doing awesome! Keep it up!!!
Thanks Ali!!!
I finished up my career in the military a couple of years ago and left with the intention of doing three things once I was free.
1. Grow my hair to at least shoulder length for a nice pony tail.
2. Smoke an entire bale of cannabis as soon as possible.
3. Get fat as a hog (after being forced to watch my diet and excercise for too many years).
I discovered that I can't stand my hair touching my ears (not a problem when I was a teen).
I took 2 swats on a joint and was stoned beyond belief (apparently it is much more potent now, who knew?).
I did however succeed in gaining over 40 pounds in less than 2 years, without even trying very hard.
I am now stuck with an uncomfortable 240 pounds on a 6 foot frame.
So...
Two weeks ago I began a massive calorie reduction diet with light excercise (I'm lazy) and am down 4 pounds so far. I've just about reached the limit of what 1000 calories a day can do without getting dangerous, so now to up my caloric intake and increase my excercise routine to medium. Hope to have it all gone by January of next year at the latest, but we'll see.
I have to admit it was easier going when I had to do this crap, or at least it didn't annoy me as much.
I would be fighting mean on 1000 calories a day. As Pudding has noted elsewhere, I'm happiest when raiding the fridge.
I love summer time. The advantage of having a house husband (he's a teacher, so has summers off) is that he cooks and looks after T, so I have time to workout as many days a week as I want. Going for 6 days this week. Today I'll do 25 minutes on one of the cardio machines, and then some light weights. Michelle Obama arms, here I come.
Quote from: Non Quixote on July 18, 2012, 04:36:56 PM
I am now stuck with an uncomfortable 240 pounds on a 6 foot frame.
I accomplished a very similar feat over a very similarly contracted period of time. I'm now fiercely counting my Weight Watchers points. I've lost 15.6 lbs in 5 weeks. What's depressing is that, despite all the care, sacrifice and general misery, I've still 35 or so pounds to go before I reach my goal weight.
I'm thinking there's something wrong with my goal weight.
Quote from: The Black Jester on July 18, 2012, 06:01:47 PM
Quote from: Non Quixote on July 18, 2012, 04:36:56 PM
I am now stuck with an uncomfortable 240 pounds on a 6 foot frame.
I accomplished a very similar feat over a very similarly contracted period of time. I'm now fiercely counting my Weight Watchers points. I've lost 15.6 lbs in 5 weeks. What's depressing is that, despite all the care, sacrifice and general misery, I've still 35 or so pounds to go before I reach my goal weight.
I'm thinking there's something wrong with my goal weight.
I'm afraid the problem lies with your actual weight. Maybe you should adopt a slightly dress drastic regime and ease the pain a bit. 15 pounds in 5 weeks is good going though.
Quote from: The Black Jester on July 18, 2012, 06:01:47 PM
I accomplished a very similar feat over a very similarly contracted period of time. I'm now fiercely counting my Weight Watchers points. I've lost 15.6 lbs in 5 weeks. What's depressing is that, despite all the care, sacrifice and general misery, I've still 35 or so pounds to go before I reach my goal weight.
I'm thinking there's something wrong with my goal weight.
Maybe.
I'm still a little pudgy at 200, but I'm okay with it so that's my goal. If I continue a little below that, that's okay too. The weight is just really starting to piss me off.
Quote from: En_Route on July 18, 2012, 06:07:28 PM
I'm afraid the problem lies with your actual weight.
You are, of course, entirely correct. The truth of this is nicely echoed by any reflective surface I happen to be passing.
Quote from: En_Route on July 18, 2012, 06:07:28 PM
Maybe you should adopt a slightly dress drastic regime and ease the pain a bit. 15 pounds in 5 weeks is good going though.
Tempting, and the advice is much appreciated. I fear that my disinclination to remain as I am is currently overwhelming any potential moderation in my approach.
Quote from: Non Quixote on July 18, 2012, 06:09:42 PM
The weight is just really starting to piss me off.
Indeed, I can relate, sir. All too well. Oh, it was all in a hurry to climb on, but it's taking it's sweet time in leaving.
So usually, I wear a pair of shorts and a t-shirt to the gym. My workout wardrobe has gotten a little bit more "tech-y" over the past year or so; now I have some tech shirts that are supposed to wick swear or something. So last weekend, Costco had a really good deal on some ladies running tights (http://www.runningwarehouse.com/catpage-WRPANT.html), so I thought what the heck, let's give them a try. Wicking, and all that. Whatever, I've seen men in tiny running shorts and no shirt, and women in their sports bras working out at the gym. I can't wear Spandex pants? If they wick?
So I bought some spandex capri pants to wear while I work out, is what I'm trying to say.
Yesterday when I was packing my gym bag, I grabbed the spandex pants, and then the first gym shirt that I happened to lay hands on, which was a shiny fitted tech shirt that comes down to the tops of my hips. If I had thought more about it, I probably wouldn have grabbed a long baggy t shirt to wear with the spandex pants, so that it would cover my rear. But I didn't think about it.
I got to the gym, changed, and realized that I looked a little bit like I was wearing a homemade super hero suit (think Aaron Johnson in his scuba suit in Kick-Ass, only without the face mask.) Everything was a bit too shiny and form fitting and splashed with racing stripes. But whatever, I'm at the gym, no one cares what I look like.
As I was leaving the gym, I got a text from Husband. "Can you stop by the store on your way home and pick up some mayonnaise?" I really don't want to go into the grocery store wearing spandex pants for the same reason that I wouldn't go to the store with no pants at all, but...well....okay. So I went to the store, got the stupid mayonnaise, and hurried out. "Just buying mayonnaise in my spandex pants, no big deal." I was getting ready to leave the parking lot, when my cell phone rings. It's Husband again. "Have you left the store yet? I'm really sorry, but can you also get some sharp cheddar cheese?" Oh sure. Let me just go back in the store, dressed like an extremely low budget wannabe superhero, and pick up some cheese. So I go back in, get the cheese, and am waiting in line to pay. I hear a small but loud voice from the next line over pipe up to say "Mommy? Look at that girl! Why is she dressed like that Mommy?" I think I may go back to wearing shorts and baggy t shirts.
Quote from: Ali on July 19, 2012, 05:00:35 PM
So usually, I wear a pair of shorts and a t-shirt to the gym. My workout wardrobe has gotten a little bit more "tech-y" over the past year or so; now I have some tech shirts that are supposed to wick swear or something. So last weekend, Costco had a really good deal on some ladies running tights (http://www.runningwarehouse.com/catpage-WRPANT.html), so I thought what the heck, let's give them a try. Wicking, and all that. Whatever, I've seen men in tiny running shorts and no shirt, and women in their sports bras working out at the gym. I can't wear Spandex pants? If they wick?
So I bought some spandex capri pants to wear while I work out, is what I'm trying to say.
Yesterday when I was packing my gym bag, I grabbed the spandex pants, and then the first gym shirt that I happened to lay hands on, which was a shiny fitted tech shirt that comes down to the tops of my hips. If I had thought more about it, I probably wouldn have grabbed a long baggy t shirt to wear with the spandex pants, so that it would cover my rear. But I didn't think about it.
I got to the gym, changed, and realized that I looked a little bit like I was wearing a homemade super hero suit (think Aaron Johnson in his scuba suit in Kick-Ass, only without the face mask.) Everything was a bit too shiny and form fitting and splashed with racing stripes. But whatever, I'm at the gym, no one cares what I look like.
As I was leaving the gym, I got a text from Husband. "Can you stop by the store on your way home and pick up some mayonnaise?" I really don't want to go into the grocery store wearing spandex pants for the same reason that I wouldn't go to the store with no pants at all, but...well....okay. So I went to the store, got the stupid mayonnaise, and hurried out. "Just buying mayonnaise in my spandex pants, no big deal." I was getting ready to leave the parking lot, when my cell phone rings. It's Husband again. "Have you left the store yet? I'm really sorry, but can you also get some sharp cheddar cheese?" Oh sure. Let me just go back in the store, dressed like an extremely low budget wannabe superhero, and pick up some cheese. So I go back in, get the cheese, and am waiting in line to pay. I hear a small but loud voice from the next line over pipe up to say "Mommy? Look at that girl! Why is she dressed like that Mommy?" I think I may go back to wearing shorts and baggy t shirts.
Haha! No don't change back. We gotta have some motivation for going to the gym...
I hope the mayo-cheese sarnies were worth it!
With the shoe on the other foot, I was on a bus with the kids once when a very large man (in comfy sports clothing) sat down opposite us. "That's a fat one" says little M (4) matter-of-factly. With a straight face I had to respond audibly something along the lines of "Yes, some people are big aren't they?!" and tried to usher the conversation elsewhere.
Quote from: Scissorlegs on July 19, 2012, 06:04:58 PM
With the shoe on the other foot, I was on a bus with the kids once when a very large man (in comfy sports clothing) sat down opposite us. "That's a fat one" says little M (4) matter-of-factly. With a straight face I had to respond audibly something along the lines of "Yes, some people are big aren't they?!" and tried to usher the conversation elsewhere.
I so wish adults could get away with saying things like that, I certainly think them.
Great story Ali, You could have probably got away with that in some little scally night club on a friday/saturday night over here.
...And why can't an adult say that? ???
Quote from: Ali on July 18, 2012, 04:49:09 PM
Michelle Obama arms, here I come.
My mother says similar things about Madonna's arms, being more in the age range. :D
Non Quixote and The Black Jester, first of all, congrats on shedding all those pounds (or kilos)!
One thing though, you have to be realistic and see your efforts as a long term goal, because that's what it is. You're getting there.
That's what makes it a bit more difficult IMO. If you aren't noticing the fruits of your efforts as soon and you had expected, you could try and set up a system where you get your instant gratification elsewhere. Reward yourself constantly.
(though seriously, loosing all that weight will definitely mean you look slimmer, even if you don't see it in yourself).
I personally don't like to diet. :P If I could choose, I would rather take up an intensive exercise regime and give myself and earned right to eat a few things here and there. Thing is, I've stopped with the exercise and continue to eat a few things beyond what I should.
Quote from: Asmodean on July 19, 2012, 06:28:42 PM
...And why can't an adult say that? ???
Well you can say it just not get away with it.
Quote from: Crow on July 19, 2012, 06:43:34 PM
Well you can say it just not get away with it.
Oh, I got away with worse.
Quote from: Scissorlegs on July 19, 2012, 06:04:58 PM
I hope the mayo-cheese sarnies were worth it!
Haha, the mayo was for something else, but he made these darling mini-grilled guacamole and cheese sammies on french bread last night. Totally worth the public shame of parading around in the store in spandex.
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 19, 2012, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 18, 2012, 04:49:09 PM
Michelle Obama arms, here I come.
My mother says similar things about Madonna's arms, being more in the age range. :D
Non Quixote and The Black Jester, first of all, congrats on shedding all those pounds (or kilos)!
One thing though, you have to be realistic and see your efforts as a long term goal, because that's what it is. You're getting there.
That's what makes it a bit more difficult IMO. If you aren't noticing the fruits of your efforts as soon and you had expected, you could try and set up a system where you get your instant gratification elsewhere. Reward yourself constantly.
(though seriously, loosing all that weight will definitely mean you look slimmer, even if you don't see it in yourself).
I personally don't like to diet. :P If I could choose, I would rather take up an intensive exercise regime and give myself and earned right to eat a few things here and there. Thing is, I've stopped with the exercise and continue to eat a few things beyond what I should.
My problem is that I don't excercise anymore either, but my caloric intake has increased...lol. I'm going to stay on half rations for another week or two and start to blend in a bit of excercise as well.
And thanks for the encouragement!
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 19, 2012, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 18, 2012, 04:49:09 PM
Michelle Obama arms, here I come.
My mother says similar things about Madonna's arms, being more in the age range. :D
Madonnas arms always reminds me of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxy5kYoyw1A).
Just home from the rheumatologist. It's official - I have both osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis. I also have two new medications - one for the rheumatoid arthritis (methotrexate) and one to counteract one of the common side effects, mouth sores (for that folic acid).
Oh my gosh Velma. That's a lot to take in. How are you feeling?
Not too badly right now, although I do have times where I hurt a lot. Apparently they are still both in the fairly early stages (but appear to be progressing rather fast) and the treatment goal is to slow the damage as much as possible. The Celebrex has really helped with my morning pain and stiffness. It will be about six weeks, maybe more, before we know for sure how much the methrotrexate is helping. I'll have to get regular bloodwork to check my blood counts and liver and kidney function. Arthritis really sucks, but people do live with this every day and I'll figure out how to do it also.
Well I'm glad to hear that it is manageable and you have a solid treatment plan in place. Do you take Glucosamine? I have read different things that suggest that it might not be all that effective, but my dad has arthritis in his hands (he's a guitar player, so that is particularly cruel) and he swears by it.
I've not tried it. I know there is some evidence that it might help, but it's not all that conclusive one way or the other. Fish oil is also supposed to help with autoimmune diseases (like rheumatoid arthritis), although it is mostly touted to help cardiovascular disease. There are a lot of claims out there and I'll have to try to wade through them.
I was thinking about mould, Enroute someone mentioned eating it in jest as people do suggesting they'll get a antibiotic benefit. There is an interesting history to the development on penicillin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_penicillin).
This link seems (http://www.mold-investigations.com/mold-in-the-bible/) to have quoted the bible and replaced "plague of leprosy" with "mildew" because they are in the business of mould control. I'm sure god will smite 'em for that.
I experience what I assume is the usual visceral dislike for musty air. People do blame mould for ill health, I'm not sure if they do so more or less so than is appropriate.
Leprosy, mildew, same diff. :D
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on July 29, 2012, 06:07:37 AM
I was thinking about mould, Enroute mentioned eating it in jest as people do suggesting they'll get a antibiotic benefit. There is an interesting history to the development on penicillin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_penicillin).
This link seems (http://www.mold-investigations.com/mold-in-the-bible/) to have quoted the bible and replaced "plague of leprosy" with "mildew" because they are in the business of mould control. I'm sure god will smite 'em for that.
I experience what I assume is the usual visceral dislike for musty air. People do blame mould for ill health, I'm not sure if they do so more or less so than is appropriate.
I fear you have misattributed that particularly drollery, author thereof being EB rather than my notoriously saturnine and levity- eschewing self.
Quote from: En_Route on July 29, 2012, 03:44:47 PM
I fear you have misattributed that particularly drollery, author thereof being EB rather than my notoriously saturnine and levity- eschewing self.
Sorry, I offer a jelly baby in penance. (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjE9OY.png&hash=bd82485cbb3e12448339e4b7807dc5b6c72a59cc)
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on July 30, 2012, 02:19:57 AM
Quote from: En_Route on July 29, 2012, 03:44:47 PM
I fear you have misattributed that particularly drollery, author thereof being EB rather than my notoriously saturnine and levity- eschewing self.
Sorry, I offer a jelly baby in penance. (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjE9OY.png&hash=bd82485cbb3e12448339e4b7807dc5b6c72a59cc)
I doubt you shall escape so lightly for slighting a servant of the Lord. I imagine a plague of locusts are even now winging their way towards your suburban homestead.
Quote from: En_Route on August 01, 2012, 05:09:40 PM
I doubt you shall escape so lightly for slighting a servant of the Lord. I imagine a plague of locusts are even now winging their way towards your suburban homestead.
Cool, next time I err I will be able to offer fried or chocolate coated locusts. Ah but this is the health thread, there will be an unsalted raw locust option.
I only eat organic free range locust.
Quote from: Ali on August 03, 2012, 08:49:15 PM
I only eat organic free range locust.
Puh-leeze, everybody knows roaches are where it's at.
The UN and EU are really trying to push micro farming. The Dutch government seem to be leading the way with this. Personally I'm all for eating bugs as the current model is unsustainable.
Once people get into serious bug-ranching, they're going to have to find stuff for the bugs to eat. :P
I'm interested how many people are actually overweight? I mean medically overweight, and if so why and when did it happen?
Quote from: Ali on August 03, 2012, 08:49:15 PM
I only eat organic free range locust.
Organic? There are too many people on this rock for that. And with one and a half kids, you of all people should know better. Leave the green and unsustainable to we who use the love glove. Besides, the artificial herbicides, insecticides and fertilizers are generally better, often safer and sometimes cheaper than the "natural" alternatives.
If you wanna go real hard core, however, lay off the food that was farmed, stored, prepared or transported using internal combustion engines, coal/oil/gas generated electricity and the like. You might starve to death, but the world will be green and the polar bear babies won't drown.
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>:( .
I am SO going to start an anti-organic movement aimed at the preservation and expansion of industrial food production.
Quote from: Crow on August 09, 2012, 08:22:50 PM
I'm interested how many people are actually overweight? I mean medically overweight, and if so why and when did it happen?
I recently became 1lb overweight according to my body mass index.
However I am nowhere near the obese range. I gained 30 pounds in three years I was much thinner and found it difficult to gain weight becuaus I did not desire to eat. I eat when I'm stressed or depressed but honestly I believe that I am addicted to high fatty and sugary foods. I used to stay away from them at all costs but I went through something and used junk as comfort food. It's so easy to access no preparation needed. I know about the effects of eating such foods long term but when I'm in a funk I'm like a zombie with no mind I just keep eating.
Quote from: Asmodean on August 09, 2012, 08:30:02 PM
Quote from: Ali on August 03, 2012, 08:49:15 PM
I only eat organic free range locust.
Organic? There are too many people on this rock for that. And with one and a half kids, you of all people should know better. Leave the green and unsustainable to we who use the love glove. Besides, the artificial herbicides, insecticides and fertilizers are generally better, often safer and sometimes cheaper than the "natural" alternatives.
If you wanna go real hard core, however, lay off the food that was farmed, stored, prepared or transported using internal combustion engines, coal/oil/gas generated electricity and the like. You might starve to death, but the world will be green and the polar bear babies won't drown.
...
>:( .
I am SO going to start an anti-organic movement aimed at the preservation and expansion of industrial food production.
I was being silly when I said "I only eat free-range locust." In fact, making fun of the very attitude that you are railing against. ;)
Quote from: Ali on August 10, 2012, 04:28:03 AM
I was being silly when I said "I only eat free-range locust." In fact, making fun of the very attitude that you are railing against. ;)
Well, as you know, The Asmo is usually just waiting for an excuse to rain on someone's eco-parade. And it need not be a good excuse either :D
Quote from: teenabeana22 on August 10, 2012, 03:18:07 AM
Quote from: Crow on August 09, 2012, 08:22:50 PM
I'm interested how many people are actually overweight? I mean medically overweight, and if so why and when did it happen?
I recently became 1lb overweight according to my body mass index.
However I am nowhere near the obese range. I gained 30 pounds in three years I was much thinner and found it difficult to gain weight becuaus I did not desire to eat. I eat when I'm stressed or depressed but honestly I believe that I am addicted to high fatty and sugary foods. I used to stay away from them at all costs but I went through something and used junk as comfort food. It's so easy to access no preparation needed. I know about the effects of eating such foods long term but when I'm in a funk I'm like a zombie with no mind I just keep eating.
1lb isn't bad at all, you could lose that weight in a week easily, with hardly any lifestyle changes. There is actually a lot of research behind the addictive qualities of food that is high in sugars so you may be totally correct, but sweeteners are far worse than sugars which is what you will usually find in fast food alongside sugars and fat. Check out this TV series if you are interested in that area: The Men Who Made Us Fat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCqKcOBPss4). It actually shows you the science behind it all and the various advertising tactics that are used to make people buy foods they think are health but actually aren't.
Quote from: Asmodean on August 10, 2012, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: Ali on August 10, 2012, 04:28:03 AM
I was being silly when I said "I only eat free-range locust." In fact, making fun of the very attitude that you are railing against. ;)
Well, as you know, The Asmo is usually just waiting for an excuse to rain on someone's eco-parade. And it need not be a good excuse either :D
If I were going to trademark you, your slogan would be "The Asmo has your balls in his mouth and is just waiting for you to give him a reason to start chewing." :D
Quote from: Crow on August 10, 2012, 01:19:21 PM
Quote from: teenabeana22 on August 10, 2012, 03:18:07 AM
Quote from: Crow on August 09, 2012, 08:22:50 PM
I'm interested how many people are actually overweight? I mean medically overweight, and if so why and when did it happen?
I recently became 1lb overweight according to my body mass index.
However I am nowhere near the obese range. I gained 30 pounds in three years I was much thinner and found it difficult to gain weight becuaus I did not desire to eat. I eat when I'm stressed or depressed but honestly I believe that I am addicted to high fatty and sugary foods. I used to stay away from them at all costs but I went through something and used junk as comfort food. It's so easy to access no preparation needed. I know about the effects of eating such foods long term but when I'm in a funk I'm like a zombie with no mind I just keep eating.
1lb isn't bad at all, you could lose that weight in a week easily, with hardly any lifestyle changes. There is actually a lot of research behind the addictive qualities of food that is high in sugars so you may be totally correct, but sweeteners are far worse than sugars which is what you will usually find in fast food alongside sugars and fat. Check out this TV series if you are interested in that area: The Men Who Made Us Fat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCqKcOBPss4). It actually shows you the science behind it all and the various advertising tactics that are used to make people buy foods they think are health but actually aren't.
Yeah, extremely eye-opening that series. I learned a lot and it'll certainly help in tweeking my diet. Definately a must-see for anyone wanting to understand the food industry, food products and our relationship with both.
Another thread resurrection......
So, after reading what Crow put on here about plant based diets and health stuff, doing my own research and reading the 'Deliciously Ella' blog (http://deliciouslyella.com/philosophy/about/) I have made a few changes to my diet.
For the past couple of years I have had a series of health incidents and frankly I'm fed up of ending up in hospital. What I read on the Ella blog was that she has managed to radically transform her health by changing what she eats. Now, obviously this is a sample size of one but the more you read into it, the more sense it makes. By the way I am not for one second saying I'll never ever eat pizza or ice cream or cheese again because I do love them, especially cheese but I plan on 80% of the time following her advice. The advice in a nutshell is plant based and gluten free. I also don't think my diet was particularly bad before but it did have a lot of dairy and wheat in there.
It has only been a few days and it still all go horribly wrong but so far so good. I'll be honest, the first day I felt horrendous at the end of it and there are still times of fatigue that I hope settle. However, I've already noticed that I don't feel bloated, my hair feels amazing and I haven't changed anything that I use on it., my eyes feel brighter too.
I have tried to give up animal products before and it was a disaster but that was an experiment to see if I could actually do it. This time I know I will eat some meat and dairy occasionally so it doesn't feel like I'm giving them up. I also now have a variety of recipes to try (the pecan pie I made yesterday was one of hers and honestly tasted as good, if not better as one full of butter and sugar) as last time I seemed to end up just surviving on hummus and got bored very quickly. I've also discovered almond milk in tea tastes just like cow milk and doesn't do the horrible curdle that soya milk does which is a huge help as I can't drink black tea.
Updating for my own records more than anything.....last week I managed my target of over 80% meals plant based and gluten free. 17/21 in fact so 81%, will try for 18/21 this week. I've certainly noticed my skin is a lot better as I am having to use less concealer to feel normal on a morning ;)
Nice one CLT.
I got my tests redone on Friday. Prior to changing my diet I booked into the doctor to get some base measurements to see the difference. My resting heart rate went from 65 to 53 (I have been monitoring this myself so I knew that was good). I can't remember the exact LDL/HDL results apart from they are positive in both counts i.e. HDL has gone up and LDL has reduced. Blood pressure is pretty much perfect again this is something I should probably look into as I have no idea what it all means but that didn't really change as it was great before. Got to wait on the blood work so wont know those results for two weeks. My body fat has gone down to 10% from 12% (calliper measurements) and I have gained just over a stone in weight which was slightly higher than expected, happy with the fat percentage but don't want it any lower.
The new eat well plate has been released. There is a significant change to this one. In the past the protein, dairy and alternatives and oils and spreads use to take up just under 50% of the pie, now it takes up around 25%. Even the ingredients featured in the categories is a big change.
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Quote from: Claireliontamer on March 21, 2016, 01:50:35 PM
Updating for my own records more than anything.....last week I managed my target of over 80% meals plant based and gluten free. 17/21 in fact so 81%, will try for 18/21 this week. I've certainly noticed my skin is a lot better as I am having to use less concealer to feel normal on a morning ;)
Did you manage to keep this going. If you did did you find anything tricky if you didn't what made you revert?
Quote from: Crow on April 19, 2016, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: Claireliontamer on March 21, 2016, 01:50:35 PM
Updating for my own records more than anything.....last week I managed my target of over 80% meals plant based and gluten free. 17/21 in fact so 81%, will try for 18/21 this week. I've certainly noticed my skin is a lot better as I am having to use less concealer to feel normal on a morning ;)
Did you manage to keep this going. If you did did you find anything tricky if you didn't what made you revert?
I am still going. Hitting 80 % each week which still gives me 3 meals a week to have anything I want. I don't think I could do it 100% of the time as having a couple of meals where I know I can have cheese and bread keeps me going. I'd say those two things are my biggest weaknesses and what I crave more than anything. However, having the Deliciously Ella cookbook is helping loads as it means I aren't getting bored with what I'm eating and it's quite fun cooking with things I don't normally use. One problem I am having is getting food when out and about, I take food to work with me which helps but it is really hard to pop into somewhere to grab lunch if I haven't got it with me.
On a more positive note, I definitely feel better with it and generally have more energy.
Quote from: Claireliontamer on April 19, 2016, 06:58:42 PM
I am still going. Hitting 80 % each week which still gives me 3 meals a week to have anything I want. I don't think I could do it 100% of the time as having a couple of meals where I know I can have cheese and bread keeps me going. I'd say those two things are my biggest weaknesses and what I crave more than anything. However, having the Deliciously Ella cookbook is helping loads as it means I aren't getting bored with what I'm eating and it's quite fun cooking with things I don't normally use. One problem I am having is getting food when out and about, I take food to work with me which helps but it is really hard to pop into somewhere to grab lunch if I haven't got it with me.
On a more positive note, I definitely feel better with it and generally have more energy.
Fantastic to hear. Eating out is pretty much the only thing I struggle with as well. Though it has become a quick way at discerning if a restaurant is actually any good without needing to try the food, if the options are falafel/humus/tofu or something with cheese or yoghurt/cream thrown on top with no creativity or thought then you are going to get pretty much the same amount of thought across all meals regardless of your diet preference, however some of the specialised places are awful its like they have no idea what flavour or good produce is. Natoora has recently been my big discovery for seasonal produce, it is damn fucking good.
I decided to get back into some proper training rather than light endurance with a bit of weights that kept me generally in shape. So I decided I want to get properly strong not the fluffy bodybuilding crap, that increases joint and tendon strength as well as balance and flexibility that has a focus on body movement. I popped down to my local gymnasium (the place where gymnasts train) to get some information out of people who can do that, the coach there told me to check out the book convict conditioning as that is essentially how gymnasts learn to build strength and easy for anyone dedicated enough to get to grips with. Tried the first stage and even though they looked laughably easy especially as I do a lot of the mid point exercises weekly and could do the entire first stage with ease but holly fuck I haven't been in this kind of pain in years nothing like DOMS.
Convict conditioning? Is it for prisoners???
Quote from: Claireliontamer on May 09, 2016, 05:59:23 PM
Convict conditioning? Is it for prisoners???
Not really from what I have read of that part of the book it is typical exercise marketing. It uses that to build the story but really they are strength training exercises that are compound rather than isolate and still the standard in gymnastics, martial arts, the military and many other sports that require full body training and a practical application.
It is just a selection different exercises with the target of hitting 6 very difficult exercises (one handed push up, pistol squat, one arm pull up, hanging leg raise, stand to stand bridge, and one handed handstand push up) that require not only strength but balance, endurance and flexibility. Rather than dropping you off at the standard points (squat, push up, pull up, handstand, leg raises, bridge) it starts you off from the most basic level but gives you a strict rules that require you to maintain control and technique with enough reps and sets that they go into endurance before you can move onto the next step, if you are still getting pain it is telling you to stay at that point even if you can hit the targets. I'm just glad about the weather as I have required a lot of cold compresses.
Just reading my last few posts on this thread, I was so healthy back then. Well the plant-based diet didn't really work out for me, I just found it too hard to stick to and too restrictive. I am however trying to lose a few pounds at the moment, nothing major but just to get a bit healthier and have more energy. I've been on the NHS plan for a couple of weeks now and lost 3lbs my first week but stayed the same the second week despite eating more or less the same thing as the first week! My clothes are definitely looser already though so I'm not too disheartened by staying the same weight.
Anyone else want to join me on a summer health kick?