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Title: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Gnostic Christian Bishop on December 08, 2017, 06:17:15 PM
Is God competent or incompetent?

We are told in scriptures that evil begets evil and good begets good. God, as our creator, according to scriptures, creates us all as sinners, which many see as evil.

God can thus be seen and judged as being the original sinner since the fruits of his labor (us) went bad or are born bad.  A tree is known by its fruits.  What else could come from a sinner tree but sin?

I give God a fail on competence for the following reasons.
God created heaven that produced Satan. Fail.
God created Eden which produced Original Sin. Fail.
God had to reboot creation with Noah's flood. Fail.
God sent his son to forgive mankind instead of stepping up himself. Fail, for moral reasons.
God also had to create hell for his rejects which scriptures say will be the vast majority of us. Fail.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds and if we believe that, then the Christian God would obviously be rejected by Jesus and agree with my fail judgement.

Do you agree?

Regards
DL
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Dave on December 08, 2017, 06:22:59 PM
There is no god.

The question has no meaning.

There are only competent and incompetent humans, some of whom have a delusion about some sort of supernatural entity.
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Tank on December 08, 2017, 06:27:18 PM
Non-existent.
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Biggus Dickus on December 08, 2017, 07:19:34 PM
Quote from: Gnostic Christian Bishop on December 08, 2017, 06:17:15 PM

Do you agree?

Regards
DL

With what?

Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Magdalena on December 08, 2017, 11:59:01 PM
Gnostic Christian Bishop.
Why do you continue to ask stuff and when people answer, you give these answers?

QuoteA coherent question does not begin by asking for evidence from one whose evidence you do not believe or would ignore in the first place.

The small minded attitude here was toxic before I even posted word one.

I am not going to provide links to the reality of Gnostic Christianity for you to ignore.

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...And...Yet...Here we are...Again, and again, and again.

Do you just love to hear yourself speak?
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 09, 2017, 12:25:51 AM


Maybe the question isn't whether God is incompetent?  I don't know that these questions can be answered?
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Recusant on December 09, 2017, 03:48:56 AM
The god described in Christian mythology is much the same as gods in any other mythology--a crude caricature of a powerful human being. No human being is entirely good nor entirely evil, though almost all tend in one direction or another. The god of Christian mythology undoubtedly tends towards evil. However he suffers from dissociative identity disorder (formerly known as "multiple personality disorder") and one of his personalities is a narcissist who seems to mostly mean well.
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Magdalena on December 09, 2017, 04:59:13 AM
Quote from: Recusant on December 09, 2017, 03:48:56 AM
...The god of Christian mythology undoubtedly tends towards evil. However he suffers from dissociative identity disorder (formerly known as "multiple personality disorder") and one of his personalities is a narcissist who seems to mostly mean well.

This is a god?  ;D
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 09, 2017, 05:15:26 AM


what would be the personality do you think?
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Icarus on December 09, 2017, 06:06:23 AM
^ A used car salesman who makes deals with Goethes characters.
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Dragonia on December 09, 2017, 02:04:24 PM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 09, 2017, 05:15:26 AM
what would be the personality of Satan do you think?

Gnostic Christian Bishop.
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Tank on December 09, 2017, 02:49:26 PM
Quote from: Dragonia on December 09, 2017, 02:04:24 PM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 09, 2017, 05:15:26 AM
what would be the personality of Satan do you think?

Gnostic Christian Bishop.
:rofl:
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Gnostic Christian Bishop on January 15, 2018, 10:57:22 PM
Thanks all.

Regards
DL
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: No one on January 16, 2018, 01:20:18 AM
I'll bite. For they sake of this argument, god exists. Yes, yes, yes, a million times yes, god is the most incompetent boob in existence.
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Guardian85 on January 16, 2018, 01:52:28 AM
Quote from: Gnostic Christian Bishop on December 08, 2017, 06:17:15 PM
Is God competent or incompetent?
First one must prove the existence, before one tries to prove the competence.
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Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Dave on January 16, 2018, 06:14:53 AM
Quote from: Guardian85 on January 16, 2018, 01:52:28 AM
Quote from: Gnostic Christian Bishop on December 08, 2017, 06:17:15 PM
Is God competent or incompetent?
First prove one must the existence, before to prove the competence one tries.
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Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Magdalena on January 16, 2018, 08:24:49 AM
Quote from: Guardian85 on January 16, 2018, 01:52:28 AM
Quote from: Gnostic Christian Bishop on December 08, 2017, 06:17:15 PM
Is God competent or incompetent?
First one must prove the existence, before one tries to prove the competence.
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Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Old Seer on March 12, 2018, 09:52:44 PM
Considering that no such entity exists, God as claimed to be existing cannot be either. On the other hand, if all are made in the image of God and people can be incompetent, then God would also be incompetent.
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Tank on March 13, 2018, 06:23:35 AM
Quote from: Old Seer on March 12, 2018, 09:52:44 PM
Considering that no such entity exists, God as claimed to be existing cannot be either. On the other hand, if all are made in the image of God and people can be incompetent, then God would also be incompetent.
Well said.
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Gnostic Christian Bishop on March 15, 2018, 08:41:25 PM
Quote from: Dragonia on December 09, 2017, 02:04:24 PM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 09, 2017, 05:15:26 AM
what would be the personality of Satan do you think?

Gnostic Christian Bishop.

As compared to Yahweh, Satan is God-like and Yahweh is Satan-like.

Do you want to be compared to Yahweh, a genocidal son murderer, or a Satan who does a lot less harm and even prevented A & E from remaining dumb and bling to their mental potential.

Regards
DL 
Title: Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Post by: Gnostic Christian Bishop on March 15, 2018, 08:50:26 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on March 12, 2018, 09:52:44 PM
Considering that no such entity exists, God as claimed to be existing cannot be either. On the other hand, if all are made in the image of God and people can be incompetent, then God would also be incompetent.

You cannot prove your first statement but no argument other than grammatical which I do not bother giving.

No argument on the rest.

Regards
DL