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Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
« Reply #1005 on: June 19, 2018, 03:09:02 PM »
He has been immune to his own actions for half a century. If he had been held to account for any of the illegal shit he'd been doing, if the wealthy were held to the same standards as the rest of us, he would be in jail long before he ran for president.

Don't expect a man who threatened and intimidated African-Americans in his buildings to illegally evict them and got away with it without barely a fine to understand that there are consequences to his actions. He's felt only good consequences to his actions his whole life.

Yes, good point. Says a lot about those Americans who backed, voted for and support him.
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Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
« Reply #1006 on: June 20, 2018, 03:36:52 PM »
https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1009325231004004352
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29 years and nine months ago I registered to vote and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump.

The whole thread is a good read.

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Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
« Reply #1008 on: June 20, 2018, 04:40:59 PM »
https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1009325231004004352
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29 years and nine months ago I registered to vote and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump.

The whole thread is a good read.

That point about pitching into a person who has finally seen the full darkness of the party he originally supported but is still hit by those in the party he is moving to, "So you say that now but what did you do about it last week, huh!?"  is so disheartening. Loyalty can be tenacious, even when your party is running counter to your basic values, you might feel trying to affect change from inside is better than dessertion until the utter obduracy of the leadership finally defeats your resolve. That is the way it should be. It also often generates the "zeal of the converted", something that can be "tamed" into productive action if handled well.
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Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
« Reply #1009 on: June 20, 2018, 04:53:48 PM »
https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1009325231004004352
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29 years and nine months ago I registered to vote and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump.

The whole thread is a good read.

That point about pitching into a person who has finally seen the full darkness of the party he originally supported but is still hit by those in the party he is moving to, "So you say that now but what did you do about it last week, huh!?"  is so disheartening. Loyalty can be tenacious, even when your party is running counter to your basic values, you might feel trying to affect change from inside is better than dessertion until the utter obduracy of the leadership finally defeats your resolve. That is the way it should be. It also often generates the "zeal of the converted", something that can be "tamed" into productive action if handled well.
This guy is not so innocent (he worked to help get Palin on the ticket), but when a person is willing to change and see that what they previously supported is not what they thought it was is something we should support. People change, people get better information, and things in the world change. So stop being so hard on the guy I think.

I fully support people deserting the GOP, even if they were previously shills for the GOP. I don't think this guy was a shill, but shy of people like Stephen Miller, I welcome people to leave the very corrupt and complicit Republican party. Forgive and move on.

I can see how someone could join the Republicans before Obama, they weren't so bad. I mean they were bad, but it was more hidden. Once joined, they would want to defend their group and try to justify things. But now, people who join or stay in that party have got to be pretty terrible people either because they are horrible people or because they aren't skeptical enough.

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Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
« Reply #1010 on: June 20, 2018, 05:02:26 PM »
https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1009325231004004352
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29 years and nine months ago I registered to vote and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump.

The whole thread is a good read.

That point about pitching into a person who has finally seen the full darkness of the party he originally supported but is still hit by those in the party he is moving to, "So you say that now but what did you do about it last week, huh!?"  is so disheartening. Loyalty can be tenacious, even when your party is running counter to your basic values, you might feel trying to affect change from inside is better than dessertion until the utter obduracy of the leadership finally defeats your resolve. That is the way it should be. It also often generates the "zeal of the converted", something that can be "tamed" into productive action if handled well.
This guy is not so innocent (he worked to help get Palin on the ticket), but when a person is willing to change and see that what they previously supported is not what they thought it was is something we should support. People change, people get better information, and things in the world change. So stop being so hard on the guy I think.

I fully support people deserting the GOP, even if they were previously shills for the GOP. I don't think this guy was a shill, but shy of people like Stephen Miller, I welcome people to leave the very corrupt and complicit Republican party. Forgive and move on.

I can see how someone could join the Republicans before Obama, they weren't so bad. I mean they were bad, but it was more hidden. Once joined, they would want to defend their group and try to justify things. But now, people who join or stay in that party have got to be pretty terrible people either because they are horrible people or because they aren't skeptical enough.

A genuine, repentative convert can be a valuable asset if handled well - no matter what they did (within the law) prior to changeing sides.
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Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
« Reply #1012 on: June 20, 2018, 08:52:54 PM »
^
 :lol:

No.

Hang-on.

It makes sense!
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Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
« Reply #1013 on: June 20, 2018, 10:57:19 PM »
:snicker:  https://extranewsfeed.com/if-trumps-impeachment-leads-to-civil-war-armed-rednecks-will-be-coming-for-you-2d644a84e8de

I tell them and tell them, but I just can't get conservatives to understand that liberals have guns too.  This is America, after all. 
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Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
« Reply #1014 on: Today at 03:21:11 AM »
 ^I love it Sandy.  Matter of fact we do also have guns, not to mention brains and some degree of ferocity when/if the situation demands. Meanwhile let us enjoy the humor...... I hope that it was humor.

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Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
« Reply #1015 on: Today at 03:37:06 AM »
^I love it Sandy.  Matter of fact we do also have guns, not to mention brains and some degree of ferocity when/if the situation demands. Meanwhile let us enjoy the humor...... I hope that it was humor.

 ::)  Maybe.
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