Re: Chicken and Xian Family Values

[xSilverPhinx]

People do have short memories, but they tend to remember those who have wronged them for a lot longer than not, so probably when things die down and return to normal that food chain would've lost a good number of customers who didn't like the message they endorsed.

As long as the people that disagree enough to not eat at the fast food chain outnumber the don't cares and the homophobes then that could be very damaging. Does anyone know what the general polls say on homosexual marriage in the States.

That's why I tend to think that it was a smart PR move rather than a stupid one, but time will tell.

I think he was just spouting off his standard Xian ignorance and inadvertently managed to spark controversy that polarized people on either side of the issue.  While they will reap some short-term benefits from Xian supporters, that uptick in business isn't likely to offset the loss of their gay and gay supporting clientele.  How much chicken can Xians eat?  

Which goes back to people's memories depending if they've been wronged or not (they don't have to be gay, gay supporters might be equally as offended). I don't have a clue. I think it was a smart PR move, if they keep up their momentum, or it can all fall apart and they've lost the portion of potential customers and money because of that. If they're adaptable, now might be a good time to adapt to reap the maxinum benefits. Depends on what they do. If they're banned in some state or their installation made more difficult, it could also flare up their stunt a little more.

Time will tell. ???

[MadBomr101]

Of particular interest, at about the 03:00 point, the company issues a statement that is clearly designed to distance themselves from the comments made by the company president, Dan Cathy, that started all the drama.

That's exactly what I meant by "and still there is a lot of spin that can be applied if they do which will be easy to overcome as the mass majority of people have short memories and believe what you tell them". It means bugger all, the statement was issued by the VP of corporate public relations its their job to issue cookie cutter comments that sound like they don't support something but actually doesn't say that at all, what it really says is that even though we may disagree with your lifestyle we will still serve you and we may stop this but I have no control. Otherwise the statement would have come from somebody with power and use words like "will" rather than "intend".

Oh, I totally agree.  Corporate behavior is nothing if not completely predictable and almost universally insincere.  Dan Cathy says something provocative, there's a huge backlash, company issues a statement proclaiming its neutrality, the scandal plays itself out and all the while the company is loving all the free exposure.  If this was all the result of months of marketing strategy to lionize their company to the enormous Xian market it was a ballsy move and one that could easily blow up in their face.

[Crow]

According to the most recent polls, it's very evenly matched, with a slight balance in favor.

Thanks, I knew somebody would know. But wtf protestants are divided by race! (pg.3) Whats that all about?

[xSilverPhinx]

Abiogensis, or life constantly being generated from non life, is a disproven scientific hypothesis. Not that that would discourage any creationists...

For the benefit of lurkers: I assume that you're thinking of the hypothesis known as Aristotelian abiogenesis, more commonly called "spontaneous generation," which was famously disproved by Pasteur. Modern hypotheses of abiogenesis are much different, and as far as I know the concept is still viable, from a scientific perspective.

Yes, that's why I added the 'constantly being generated'. Back in Pasteur's day it was a very heated debate. Amusingly, serious people were putting 'recipes' out there for making certain lifeforms such as rats There's a creationist video on YouTube when a guy uses a can of peanut butter to attempt to disprove evolution by disproving the old hypothesis of abiogenesis ???

*edited to add link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

[Crow]

Oh, I totally agree.  Corporate behavior is nothing if not completely predictable.  Dan Cathy says something provocative, there's a huge backlash, company issues a statement proclaiming its neutrality, the scandal plays itself out and all the while the company is loving all the free exposure.  If this was all the result of months of marketing strategy to lionize their company to the enormous Xian market, it was a ballsy move.   

How and where was it announced and were there any graphics for it?

[MadBomr101]

Oh, I totally agree.  Corporate behavior is nothing if not completely predictable.  Dan Cathy says something provocative, there's a huge backlash, company issues a statement proclaiming its neutrality, the scandal plays itself out and all the while the company is loving all the free exposure.  If this was all the result of months of marketing strategy to lionize their company to the enormous Xian market, it was a ballsy move.   

How and where was it announced and were there any graphics for it?

Saturation advertising on the Trinity Broadcasting Network with a retouched version of the Last Supper showing Jesus and the Apostles happily chowing down on chicken sandwiches and waffle fries.

[Crow]

Saturation advertising on the Trinity Broadcasting Network with a retouched version of the Last Supper showing Jesus and the Apostles happily chowing down on chicken sandwiches and waffle fries.

Yeah it definitely has the hallmarks of marketing involvement. It could have been the president saying do this rather than the various teams sitting around coming up with ideas. I can't imagine the PR department being consulted at all unless they are people who enjoy a challenge or fully support the view.

[MadBomr101]

Saturation advertising on the Trinity Broadcasting Network with a retouched version of the Last Supper showing Jesus and the Apostles happily chowing down on chicken sandwiches and waffle fries.

Yeah it definitely has the hallmarks of marketing involvement. It could have been the president saying do this rather than the various teams sitting around coming up with ideas. I can't imagine the PR department being consulted at all unless they are people who enjoy a challenge or fully support the view.

Wait, let me be clear, I'm just joking above.  I was only speculating *IF* this whole thing was a marketing strategy, I'm not saying it was.  I don't want there to be any misinformation spread by a communication failure. 

[Crow]

Wait, let me be clear, I'm just joking above.  I was only speculating *IF* this whole thing was a marketing strategy, I'm not saying it was.  I don't want there to be any misinformation spread by a communication failure. 

ahhh ok.

[En_Route]

Dear lord, I hope not. Selling burgers which spontaneously spawn lifeforms could be bad for business, giving new meaning to "you don't know what's in that meat". Btw, I insist that be the slogan.

Abiogensis, or life constantly being generated from non life, is a disproven scientific hypothesis. Not that that would discourage any creationists...

It beats my effort "More shit for you to swallow".

[xSilverPhinx]

Dear lord, I hope not. Selling burgers which spontaneously spawn lifeforms could be bad for business, giving new meaning to "you don't know what's in that meat". Btw, I insist that be the slogan.

Abiogensis, or life constantly being generated from non life, is a disproven scientific hypothesis. Not that that would discourage any creationists...

It beats my effort "More shit for you to swallow".

I'll stick with the euphenism, you could sell that line to the competition Might just be a bit too blunt and truthfully spoken...

[Harmonie]

All I can say is that I will never ever eat there again.

I probably would have felt very disinclined to ever go there again from the owner's words alone (he has the right to have that view and speak on it, but I also have the right to not want to have anything to do with his business), however the issue runs much deeper than that with the business's money going directly toward known hate groups. There is no way I'm giving the restaurant even a cent of money when there's a chance of it going toward those awful groups.

[DeterminedJuliet]

I kind of love this.

[Ali]

Only in America would people turn eating fried chicken to a political movement. 

Youtube "Chow Down On Chick-Fil-A."   Funny.

[Ali]

Also, I love this article.  Yes, yes, and yes.