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The Irish accent is the most cringe worthy on the entire planet, bar English. Seriously, learn to talk right.

QuoteThe Irish accent is the most cringe worthy on the entire planet, bar English.

Get stuffed you Scottish nonce. :wink: The whole world loves Ireland (just look at all these giddy Americans) & nobody loves Scotland because it's just a tumour stuck on the side of England; there to leech billions of pounds a year out of our tax payers and whine about all of its problems as if they're our fault. Isn't it about time that Scotland grew up, got a job & moved out?

Po-li-tic-AL ANGST :lol:

Hi Merc. Nice to have you amongst us.

Ya know... that sounded mean kinda, but I know with a British accent, it would sound just adorable!!!  

Does sound meaner than I intended actually. Sorry if I scathed your national pride there, Raggy. Scotland's a lovely place full of rainbows (LOADS of them) and lipops.

Actually England has leeches off of Scotland and always has done. Never had a history lesson? Never wondered why the SNP keep fighting for independence? And at least Scottish men sound like men and not like some kind of castrated farm animal. Och aye Jimmy.

personaly.. i love the scots, not sure why, i jus get a good vibe from em, if i was any other nationality id be Scottish or Martian  :D  

Quote from: "Raggy"Actually England has leeches off of Scotland and always has done. Never had a history lesson? Never wondered why the SNP keep fighting for independence? And at least Scottish men sound like men and not like some kind of castrated farm animal. Och aye Jimmy.

You just made my day! Now I don't have to feel bad about before. I'll try to keep it nice.

We don't leech off you, cherub. Use your common sense. Check this out:

http://www.thecep.org.uk/media/yp_mk_30aug.pdf

Also, our lying shit of a Prime Minister IS Scottish, and so are a great number of UK MPs. The reason they aren't keen to let Scotland have independence (or England have its own parliament, for that matter) is because they'd wind up losing all of their power.

See the thing is, I want Scotland to be independent. So do most people here. As I said, it's a parasite and we'd be much better off without it. However, as a parasite depends on a host, Scotland depends (supposedly) on England. So what's the Scottish solution to this? It's simple: they get to be fully self-governed and independent BUT the rest of the UK still has to have Scottish MPs AND essentially pay for everything so you get to have cushy low taxes. In other words "waaaa, we depend on the English which equates to them oppressing us somehow. Therefore we should be able to influence their law but they can't influence ours in any way, shape or form... and then we can be our own country but still continue to suck money out of them for all eternity. It's fair that way." That's one of the main reasons why the English aren't playing the game. It isn't because we love your companionship or enjoy paying for your well being.

I'm not all that miffed at the Scots themselves though. I'm more pissed off at New Labour for being such a band of lying fuck heads. They could easily give England a parliament & follow up by giving you guys your independence (full independence, not the best of both worlds). It's purely their personal selfishness that stops them.

Quote from: "Merc"personaly.. i love the scots, not sure why, i jus get a good vibe from em, if i was any other nationality id be Scottish or Martian

Those Martians do nothing but leech money out of us Earth dwellers and then moan about their right to independence. Nowt but a tumour, that's what Mars is. I blame Gordon Brown.

Man, what a lying son of a bitch. The English are evil, always have been. Take a look at Africa, India, China and Scotland's REAL history, not this wacko's fucked up version of it. Go back to kissing your wrinkly old queens arse yah wee fanny boy chav.

QuoteMan, what a lying son of a bitch.

Back yourself up in your own time.

QuoteThe English are evil, always have been. Take a look at Africa, India, China and Scotland's REAL history, not this wacko's fucked up version of it.

Yep, I made so many historical references it's surreal. And the English are evil. We build death stars and blow up planets! Heck who needs more proof than that? :lol: You stick to your DVD collection, lad: you can't go wrong. Fun as it was, though, I'm not going to waste any more breath on you.

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QuoteMan, what a lying son of a bitch.

Fun as it was, though, I'm not going to waste any more breath on you.

Yeah, that's cos you know I'm right. This guy is so far in denial about his poncy country that it's sad.

This is fascinating!  When does the eye poking commence?  LOL!  THis is the type of thing I only see in movies.  :lol:

EDIT TO ADD:

Just reviewed this conversation with my hubby and he had this to add:

Were you face to face, this would surely come to blows by now... and if you were government officials, you'd have declared war.  Now back to your respective countries to have a breath and a laugh.  (anyone else LOVE "Extras"?)

Quote from: "rlrose328"This is fascinating! When does the eye poking commence? LOL! THis is the type of thing I only see in movies.

Personally, I'm looking forward to when we start throwing empty threats at each other. "Bet you wouldn't act so cocky if you were standing right in front of me" and so on. That's when you'll know it's hit rock bottom. :lol:

Quote from: "Raggy"Yeah, that's cos you know I'm right. This guy is so far in denial about his poncy country that it's sad.

I'm not in denial about my poncy country, I'm just eeeeevil. Which explains why I have the rational argument (though it is in fact evil English LIES, designed to deceive & manipulate, naturally) + a brain (always handy when you're evil) while you have nowt but your just passion for FREEEDOOOOM!

Mel Gibson knows his stuff.

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Quote from: "rlrose328"Were you face to face, this would surely come to blows by now... and if you were government officials, you'd have declared war. Now back to your respective countries to have a breath and a laugh. (anyone else LOVE "Extras"?)

Actually I've kind of come to see this is quite fun now. It's so stupid that we may as well carry on just to see how much stupider it can get. And I haven't seen much Extras. I kind of assumed it'd be like The Office, which I don't find that funny; then again I should probably give it a go in case I'm wrong. Peep Show pulls off that sort of awkward comedy much butter though, I think.

Quote from: "Mister Joy"Actually I've kind of come to see this is quite entertaining now. It's so stupid that we may as well carry on just to see how much stupider it can get. And I haven't seen much Extras. I kind of assumed it'd be like The Office, which I don't find that funny; then again I should probably give it a go in case I'm wrong. Peep Show pulls off that sort of awkward comedy much butter though, I think.

Wow... we assumed every Brit LOVES The Office... we just don't get it.  But Extras is a hoot!  Especially the one with Sir Ian McKellen and another one with Daniel Radcliffe.  Those had me rolling on the floor.  We got the DVDs from Blockbuster online.  But there were only 2 seasons of 6 episodes each... WAY too few!!!

Quote from: "rlrose328"Wow... we assumed every Brit LOVES The Office...

They do, generally. Though I'm more into Blackadder, Red Dwarf, League of Gentlemen, Monkey Dust, that sort of stuff. The type of comedy the Office & Peep Show do can either work perfectly or be really awful. There are loads of shows trying to copy the style now and none of them are at all funny.

By the way, isn't there an American version of The Office now? What's that like?

I have historical fact on my side, you have you countries bloated, arrogant ego and lame references to Braveheart. That movie was full of more errors than Kent Hovind. But hey, if you wanna throw facts out the window, then go ahead, be a creationist.

no racism, tut tut

Raggy...read the rules.

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Quote from: "rlrose328"Wow... we assumed every Brit LOVES The Office...

They do, generally. Though I'm more into Blackadder, Red Dwarf, League of Gentlemen, Monkey Dust, that sort of stuff. The type of comedy the Office & Peep Show do can either work perfectly or be really awful.

I've managed to watch only two episodes of The Office but I didn't find it funny. There is also a german version of The Office. Rumours have it that it is funnier than the english original, but I don't trust the german critics. Reminds me about a very old joke: "Whats the difference between the Dresden bombing and a German comedian? Only the first thing can make you smile". To make a long story short, I'm also more into the Blackadder and Red Dwarf kind of humour.

Though we LOVE LOVE LOVE Steve Carell, we just cannot watch the American version of the Office, either.  I don't find it funny, cringeworthy or whatever.  Now I understand this current season is more amusing than the first two... but we're watching something else during that timeframe, so no bother.

I'm afraid I dont know anything about Red Dwarf or Blackadder... that's Rowan Atkinson, right?  I have limited tolerance for his brand of comedy as well.  When I think of British Comedy, I'm afraid part of me still thinks of Monty Python and nothing else measures up.

I love Blackadder's first season most, especially the episode  "The Queen of Spain's Beard". Can't get enough of that one. What I also love are the episodes where Rik Mayall play a small role in it. He is by the way one  of my favourite english comedians. Monthy Python had set a high standard as well, but I find taht much of their (TV)work is heavily outdated

Same. And Rik Mayall is great in it yeah. I think he's at his best alongside Ade Edmondson, though. :D I absolutely hate Mr. Bean. Blackadder's a

Blackadder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts3EOgIkEOA

Red Dwarf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMWgGC82bw

Is it racism to say that a certain percentage of Americans are obese, or that the French built the Eiffel Tower in 1889? No, they're just facts, and that England is full of evil idiots is also a fact, historically and in the present.

Mister Joy, you are obviously in the 'delusion bubble', just like the Russians when they thought that communism was a good idea, the Iraqi's and their women oppressing ways, or all the primitive cultures that thought white colonizers were some kind of Gods. You are obviously blind to reason and fact thanks to your baseless national pride and brainwashing. Just like when an atheist argues with a fundie, all that will happen is we go round in circles. You are a fundie. For shame.

I don't need to be blind to reason and fact; you haven't provided either for me to see. All you've given is baseless statements: "England is full of *insert*" "the English are evil" "The English this" "The English that." It's nothing but xenophobic whining, and I'm pretty confident that's all you're ever going to give. You plainly don't know anything about the political relationship between the two countries & I realised that to begin with; hence I tried to explain it to you before. Those were the facts. Here are the main ones again, for your benefit:

1: the external link. I'm guessing that in your blaze of righteousness you didn't dare to look.
2: the PM is Scottish (lies! All lies!) as are most of the key figures in the UK Government. Hence no independence for Scotland or parliament for England: our power-hungry Scottish leaders.
3: I want Scotland to be independent because my country would be better off that way. As explained by the fact that...
4: English tax payers subsidise Scotland by billions of pounds a year.

I'm not nationalistic, Rag. And I'm not arguing with you, either. I'm teaching you. You know nothing, so you can pay attention and learn or you can stick to winging like the stubborn, ignorant fool we both know you are. I'm fully comfortable with either.

Quote from: "Mister Joy"Same. And Rik Mayall is great in it yeah. I think he's at his best alongside Ade Edmondson, though.

How true. I bet they never dare to show the TV-Series "The Young Ones", "Bottom" or "Filthy Rich & Catflap"  in the USA.

While we're bashing each other's nationalities...

I've been to England, the mother country, and wow. Your fish and chips suck. They are so horrible and soggy. Like your weather. All English people ever seemed to talk about was how bad the weather is, and for good reason. Your beaches are grey and they made me depressed. Everyone on the whole seemed really irate. Those few sections of the British press not fixated on celebrity gossip can't seem to get over delusions of self-grandeur, completely oblivious to the fact that Britain has long been a second-rate world power and no one cares anymore. Your two main political parties are identical, both in policy and in how useless they are. Your beer is warm, your women are cold and your comedy consists almost entirely of cross-dressing men.

In conclusion: Australia is better than the UK at sport.

 :pirate:

Quote from: "Raggy"Is it racism to say that a certain percentage of Americans are obese, or that the French built the Eiffel Tower in 1889? No, they're just facts, and that England is full of evil idiots is also a fact, historically and in the present.

Were you a little older, you'd know that a statement of fact becomes racism when used as an insult, which you clearly intended your statement to be (as well as the obese Americans statement).  I swear I don't say this often at all, but grow up.  You may be an atheist, but you are acting like as asshole.  

Quote from: "Raggy"Mister Joy, you are obviously in the 'delusion bubble', just like the Russians when they thought that communism was a good idea, the Iraqi's and their women oppressing ways, or all the primitive cultures that thought white colonizers were some kind of Gods. You are obviously blind to reason and fact thanks to your baseless national pride and brainwashing. Just like when an atheist argues with a fundie, all that will happen is we go round in circles. You are a fundie. For shame.

Do you not realize that by saying Mister Joy is a fundie because he doesn't agree with you that YOU are behaving like a fundie as well?  Not just a fundie, but a religious person in general?  That is THEIR trick, saying one is "blind to the facts of faith" as a means of deflecting the argument.

Again... grow up.  You're on an adult forum and you're acting like a cihld.

Actually, while I agree that Raggy is being an asshat, he isn't being racist. English is not a race.

I think the word you are looking for is bigot.  

Raggy, this forum is filled with mostly kind freethinkers.  I, and I guess everyone, would like to keep the good vibes going.  I don't know what your problem is but there is no basis for saying that most people in a certain country are evil idiots.  Any rational person knows that we can't even say that of people who live in heavily Muslim concentrated areas....it's not the people it's the leaders.  If you want to bitch about another country's leadership, have at it.  Just quit making yourself look like a moron by thinking that the leaders are always a direct reflection of the people.

I already asked you to read the rules because you are doing a good job of breaking rule one.

Quote from: "Tom64"How true. I bet they never dare to show the TV-Series "The Young Ones", "Bottom" or "Filthy Rich & Catflap" in the USA.

I don't know if they show them on TV, but you can buy them (though maybe not Filthy Rich & Catflap. If they didn't know much about Thatcher they'd probably miss out on a lot of the humour).

Quote from: "pjkeeley"Your fish and chips suck

They vary a lot. Depends where you get them from.

Quote from: "pjkeeley"Like your weather.

Yeah, compared to where you live I imagine it does. Though I live in the south-west and it rarely rains here, which is annoying because I quite like it.

QuoteAll English people ever seemed to talk about was how bad the weather is, and for good reason.

We like to complain, especially to foreigners (because if they aren't English, then they haven't experienced all the wonderful things we get to complain about yet). We're sceptical, negative & unimpressed by anything. And we love it.

Quote from: "pjkeeley"Your beaches are grey and they made me depressed.

Everything in Britain will make you depressed unless you're British, in which case there's no place like home. It gives Norway and Alaska a run for their money as far as melancholy setting goes, though, it's true.

Quote from: "pjkeeley"Those few sections of the British press not fixated on celebrity gossip can't seem to get over delusions of self-grandeur, completely oblivious to the fact that Britain has long been a second-rate world power and no one cares anymore.

You're right about the celeb gossip. That's why anyone who reads magazines or small time tabloids in the UK & takes them seriously is considered very stupid. But self-grandeur and patriotism is outlawed in Britain (least it is in England), pretty much literally. British media is (supposedly) quite unbiased - BBC in particular is famous for it - but if you ask me it's leaning towards being slightly socialist. You're likely to find that the anti-patriotism far out ways national pride. As I say though, don't know if that's the same for Scotland and Wales but I assume it is.

Quote from: "pjkeeley"Your two main political parties are identical, both in policy and in how useless they are.

Got that right. At least regarding the uselessness. You've got to choose the better of two evils, but I'm pretty sure that's the same wherever you go. Anything's better than our current Government. I'd rather my dog ran the country.

Quote from: "pjkeeley"Your beer is warm, your women are cold and your comedy consists almost entirely of cross-dressing middle-aged men.

The thing with beer is you need to store it in the fridge. Pubs have it on tap, which is as good as. That's basically the trick to cooling it down, though. Not a whole lot to do with where you are.

Maybe the women didn't find you as attractive as you'd hoped?

And there are three types of British comedy:

Worst kind: romantic. I facking hate Hugh bloody Grant.
mediocre: awkward comedy
best: inane slapstick/slightly weird.

The only cross-dressing comedy I can think of though is the League of Gentlemen, which, I'm guessing, is where you got your assessment from. LOG's funny, you've got to admit. Creepy and disgusting in places, but funny.

Count me in as well as a Huge Grant hater. Every film he appeared in is a disaster. His movie "Four weddings and a funeral" is one of the most unfunniest films in movie history, even worse than the german comedy "Goodbye Lenin" that also received raving reviews abroad.

'Goodbye Lenin' was a comedy? I quite like the idea of that film, to be honest. I think it could have been done better, though. I think the funniest film I've ever seen was probably American Psycho. The "Hey Paul!" scene was utterly classic, and it's full of really dark humour; which is unusual for something out of the States.

I love black comedy. The German's seem to produce some of the best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdjt6Bl5qdY

If you haven't seen it, it takes a couple of minutes to get going but it's building up.

Yes it's all in good fun. I don't hate the UK. You have good television on the whole, a good sense of humour, as well as all those quaint little villages and museums and such, great if you're into that sort of thing. I admit to being much more interested in your history that in my own country's, so it was fun.

Just a few things bugged me is all.  

Don't remind me about the museums. Day long school trips to ancient Roman villas, WWII memorials and yadda yadda tends to leave its own mark. And to be fair, British history's only interesting because, like the rest of Europe, it's quite grewsome. It's all Catholics burning protestants alive & vice versa, torture, civil wars, death, plague, famine & psychotic (occasionally 100% run of the mill loony-toon) monarchs. Just look at what happened to George III. That's a sad story.

QuoteJust a few things bugged me is all.

Was it London you went to, out of interest?

By far the best accent is the 'Angry Scot' from the PC game Worms.   BY FAR!  Other than that, have fun fighting.

QuoteBy far the best accent is the 'Angry Scot' from the PC game Worms. BY FAR! Other than that, have fun fighting.

My fav. accent is Irish. Not posh Irish though. Had a radical feminist teacher once who had a posh Irish accent and it drove me mental listening to her trying to impose labels on us. "Are you sexist?" "No." "Then you're a feminist." No, I'm neither, now piss off you daft cow. She was one of these extremely middle class, outspoken & over the top liberals (the kind that go too far and take themselves so seriously that their 'liberalism' goes completely up its own arse if you know what I mean). She instantly hated anyone who happened to be white & male. I did an experiment with her; slipped in a reference to my being gay one lesson. Don't know if it was just coincidence but that day she went from utterly despising me to, get this, trying to make casual conversation about shoe shopping. That isn't one phrase, it's two whole words. Fucking shopping for fucking shoes! I really could have murdered her, given half the chance.

Anyway yeah. That's why no posh Irish accents (I think that's the way to describe them anyway). Plus there's Graham Norton. Other than that, the Irish accent is king as far as I'm concerned.

Quote from: "Tom62"Count me in as well as a Huge Grant hater. Every film he appeared in is a disaster. His movie "Four weddings and a funeral" is one of the most unfunniest films in movie history, even worse than the german comedy "Goodbye Lenin" that also received raving reviews abroad.

One of my favorite movies of all time is "Love Actually" (the only movie on my MP3 so far) with Hugh Grant, but it's a HUGE cast so the film doesn't ride on his shoulders.  I also liked "Two Weeks Notice".  But my favorite Hugh Grant film is "American Dreamz" ("dreamz with a 'z'").  If you haven't seen it, you must.

Hugh Grant's not so bad... it's the fucking idiots that keep putting him in movies that need a beating.

Hahaha. Chris and Paul Weitz.

Grant's too typecast. Tell you what someone should do: cast him as a misogynistic psycho. He'd be so bizarrely out of place and contradictory to his usual role that it could be very creepy. I think he'd make a good slimy antagonist. People wouldn't expect that. Worked with Robin Williams, didn't it?

Quote from: "donkeyhoty"Hugh Grant's not so bad... it's the fucking idiots that keep putting him in movies that need a beating.

:lol: !!

My favorite Hugh Grant movie is "Lair of the White Worm".  

Quote from: "Mister Joy"Grant's too typecast. Tell you what someone should do: cast him as a misogynistic psycho. He'd be so bizarrely out of place and contradictory to his usual role that it could be very creepy. I think he'd make a good slimy antagonist. People wouldn't expect that. Worked with Robin Williams, didn't it?

Have you seen "American Dreamz"?  He doesn't play to type in that one... he's not completely psychotic, but he isn't the leading man hero/love interest.  We love that movie because it seems to true... more true than not, we think.

I should probably see that then. Though I'm not that into things like Pop Idol, American Idol or X Factor so I probably couldn't appreciate it for its realism.