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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #375 on: December 06, 2017, 11:39:08 AM »
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Thank you.  :hug:

You're welcome.  Think Cyrano de Bergerac, without the complaining about the nose.


OK.

I love Cyrano -- he's quite gloriously mad.  Warrior, poet, lover, philosopher; he was magnificent, if a little obsessed about his nose.  No one is perfect.

Of course Mr Magoo (ye I did research the proper spelling of that) was the definitive Cyranose.
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #376 on: December 06, 2017, 12:28:06 PM »
I voted for Obama two times.  I do not suppose that he was the best president ever but he was damned sure not the worst either.  "Barry" did not offend us daily with dumb ass tweets, he did not boast about grabbing pussies, ...............if he had not been tainted by being half black he could have done much more to the benefit of our society. I like to think that he would have.   
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Is the word, tainted, appropriate, here?  :notsure:

Yes it is appropriate, Ic is calling it out.

Hillary was tainted by being a woman
But Sarah P was and is a womanly woman
Hillary was tainted by being an intelligent woman
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #377 on: December 06, 2017, 01:58:46 PM »
Does anyone remember the simpler times, when people were losing their shit because the president asked for fancy mustard or wore a tan suit?

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #378 on: December 06, 2017, 07:15:37 PM »
Whoa....Going back a page or two I see that I have made a terrible choice of words or that I did not explain that the word was to be taken as if  spoken by people who did not like Obama.   "Tainted" was a bad word. I apologize if that has been interpreted as a slight. That was definitely not the intent. 

I could have explained that there was, for 8 years, a great deal of criticism of the then president that was based on bullshit claims by lying bastards like Hannity or Limbaugh or crackpot conspiracy notions invented by tiny minds.  All that probably influenced the hillbilly state of mind but was not the biggest reason for the attitude of  Obama detractors..  The grim reality is that we live in a racist society, closeted racism of course, but a reality no matter how you slice it.. Much of that society could not quite get past the fact that the duly elected president has a  somewhat darker skin color.  That is a clumsy explanation of what I meant to convey by using the word;tainted.

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #379 on: December 06, 2017, 07:17:15 PM »
It is Curious that  BBC would make this video.  Here is some of the commentary about the closet racism that I mentioned in a previous post .  Perhaps I should not use the word closet. We are generally not deliberately racist, many of us just do not realize that we have some issues.
It is not my intent to start a controversy about this subject.  It might merit a few peaceful words however..........or we can move on. 

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #380 on: December 06, 2017, 08:54:47 PM »
Thanks for that, Icarus, but - somehow - I do not find myself understanding the problem any better after viewing than before!

I do not think of myself as racist yet I once found myself getting very fed up with certain "black" cultural things - particularly involving loud music. However now that I have white neighbours who play loud reggae, beebop (I think) and tecno music I think it was more a "cultural" dislike than a "racial" one. Regardless of skin colour a lousy neighbour is still a lousy neighbour. And a good one is to be valued!

There seems to have been a degree of "cultural spread" in this country. I listened to two teenage lads talking, from their pronounciations and word use I assumed they were black, only to be surprised when they turned out to be white. There have been other signs in terms of music and even dreadlocks! But I have no doubt that there is still prejudice, casual and aggressive, perhaps both ways.

Still a bit confused...
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #381 on: December 06, 2017, 11:47:52 PM »
It is Curious that  BBC would make this video.  Here is some of the commentary about the closet racism that I mentioned in a previous post .  Perhaps I should not use the word closet. We are generally not deliberately racist, many of us just do not realize that we have some issues.

It's true, there's a difference between conscious and unconscious racism -- which I sometimes think of as racism with a big R and racism with a little r.

The big R is stuff anybody can see is racism -- the KKK, Nazis marching in the streets chanting for genocide, that sort of thing. 

The small r stuff are things which no one raised in a racist society like ours can possibly avoid becoming infected with -- automatic assumptions about what any black person will or will not like (a common one I've found is "black people don't read/watch SF"), clutching your purse without realizing it if blacks are around (to my shame, I found myself doing that recently), judging a black more harshly than a white for the same thing. 

The small r stuff may not be as nefarious as the big R stuff, but it's damaging in its own way and, I think even harder to root out because it's harder to see -- esp. when it's your small stuff.  Such as the purse incident; if I hadn't looked down at my grocery list I'd never even seen my hand tightened around my purse and known I was doing that. 

What's really awful, and to my thinking an example of how society gets false assumptions dug into our unconscious, is that of the three times I've had my purse snatched, it was a white guy who did it every time tho I lived in a multi-racial neighborhood.  I've never caught myself clutching my purse around groups of white men, even tho experience shows that's when I should be protecting it.  Small r racism.
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #382 on: December 07, 2017, 03:21:16 PM »
I'm just waiting for this kind of realization from the Turnip supporters.

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #383 on: December 08, 2017, 12:12:26 PM »
Intelligence, that's a taint.
Not only for women, truly.
George W, pretty vacant
Obama, intelligent, black
A dopey black Pres...
he might of been OK
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #384 on: December 08, 2017, 02:12:21 PM »
Oh, goody, they are sending a man, Pence, who is an avowed evangelical and therefore almost certainly hoping for the "End Time," to try to convince the Palestinians that America recognising Jerusalem as Israel's capital is a good idea.
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #385 on: December 11, 2017, 11:35:59 PM »
The hot news today is that several women have come out accusing the Donald of molesting them in the past.  The Me Too movement is gaining momentum.   We'll have to wait and see where that goes.

Something is not right when Billy Bush loses his job for being on the now famous bus (the grab "em by the pussy bus) while the mouthy braggart, Donald, got himself elected to the highest office of the land.


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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #386 on: December 12, 2017, 02:05:44 AM »
Those accusations came out during the campaign after the infamous bus video was made public, but are getting some new life, which is a good thing.

However, the American people have spoken--President Bogus isn't guilty (at least according to Sarah Huckabee-Sanders). Of course the piece below is from Fake News CNN, so, you know, best to just ignore it.

"Sarah Sanders said the 2016 election ended the debate about Trump's treatment of women. Not exactly." | CNN

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On Thursday afternoon, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders was asked about Al Franken's description of President Donald Trump as "a man who has bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault."

Here's how she responded:

"The President addressed the comments back during the campaign. We feel strongly that the people of the country also addressed that when they elected Donald Trump president. I don't have anything to add."

OK.

There are things that are right in that statement by Sanders. And things that are totally and completely wrong.

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #387 on: December 12, 2017, 02:56:56 AM »
Does anyone remember the simpler times, when people were losing their shit because the president asked for fancy mustard or wore a tan suit?

I long for those days.  Do you remember when FOX threw a fit because Obama said "folks"?  No problem with 45 saying it, tho.
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #388 on: December 12, 2017, 08:16:25 AM »
Something is not right when Billy Bush loses his job for being on the now famous bus (the grab "em by the pussy bus) while the mouthy braggart, Donald, got himself elected to the highest office of the land.
On what we know I agree. Had Bush acted "better", confronting Trump over his actions, calling him out on his comments, he would almost certainly have got the sack and never worked in media again. I am guessing hell is a warm bath compared to Trump's vengeance.
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