OK. I give up. Its time I give you a little confession!
This may come as a shock to you all but I am not who you think I am. I am not in fact a nun who teaches at a little happy Catholic school.
I am in fact just a regular everyday sort of Catholic.
I was an athesit/irreligious for the longest time but lately I embraced the Catholic faith. I am surprised at how much sense it all makes, and never would have thought it would all those years ago!
Anyway.. I am sorry for the deception, I thought it was just a funny joke and more of a "little white lie" than anything else.
So...apologies...and hopefuly I cleared up any misunderstanding!
Well, Aggie, we all make mistakes.
Makes sense, eh? That makes no sense, it's all nonsense
After thought: if that's what joining a religion provokes one to do I think I'll stay an honest atheist!
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
OK. I give up. Its time I give you a little confession!
This may come as a shock to you all but I am not who you think I am. I am not in fact a nun who teaches at a little happy Catholic school.
I am in fact just a regular everyday sort of Catholic.
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Can we get a show of hands on who is shocked by this trolling deception?
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Quote from: Pasta Chick on November 07, 2017, 05:17:18 PM
Can we get a show of hands on who is shocked by this trolling deception?
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My hands remain firmly in my lap.
Well, when not typing this of course! Wouldn't want to be thought a lying religionista.
Well, this is a surprise...well no, not really. :fingertap:
Ah, the "I was an atheist but then I saw the light..." talk. :blahblah: Hopefully not a tactic to convert 'lost souls'.
But I can't help but wonder
what motivated this deceptive behaviour? Did you think it would give you a little more authority while trying to convert us? Why didn't you go deep while you were at it and say you were the Pope for FSM's sake?
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#9. You shall not lie. :dominidomini:
SisterAgatha, does this mean that you're going to hell?
Could you please remind us of all the things you've said about people going to hell? :tellmemore:
Just say 23 Hail Marys, 35 Our Fathers, and leave $150,000 in the donation box.*
* I can set you free from the eternal fire and brimstone, but absolution costs a very pretty penny.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
OK. I give up. Its time I give you a little confession!
This may come as a shock to you all but I am not who you think I am. I am not in fact a nun who teaches at a little happy Catholic school.
I am in fact just a regular everyday sort of Catholic.
I was an athesit/irreligious for the longest time but lately I embraced the Catholic faith. I am surprised at how much sense it all makes, and never would have thought it would all those years ago!
Anyway.. I am sorry for the deception, I thought it was just a funny joke and more of a "little white lie" than anything else.
So...apologies...and hopefuly I cleared up any misunderstanding!
Well I'm glad you fessed up what I spotted on the first post. I didn't believe you then and I don't believe you now. "I was an athesit/irreligious for the longest time" bullshit. Now we're getting the sympathy troll. I really don't know what motivates people to do what you do. smh
Who dis?
I knew she wasn't a nun on the first post. But why should we believe anything she says?
Quote from: Tank on November 07, 2017, 07:04:19 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
OK. I give up. Its time I give you a little confession!
This may come as a shock to you all but I am not who you think I am. I am not in fact a nun who teaches at a little happy Catholic school.
I am in fact just a regular everyday sort of Catholic.
I was an athesit/irreligious for the longest time but lately I embraced the Catholic faith. I am surprised at how much sense it all makes, and never would have thought it would all those years ago!
Anyway.. I am sorry for the deception, I thought it was just a funny joke and more of a "little white lie" than anything else.
So...apologies...and hopefuly I cleared up any misunderstanding!
Well I'm glad you fessed up what I spotted on the first post. I didn't believe you then and I don't believe you now. "I was an athesit/irreligious for the longest time" bullshit. Now we're getting the sympathy troll. I really don't know what motivates people to do what you do. smh
It is true. I can tell teh long story of my reversion to Catholocism, but I just enjoyed the hole it filled in my life. People come and go, fail and succeed but no matter what, God,Jesus, the Virgin Mary, Angels and Saints are there to stay and are always on your side.
I enjoyed going back to confession and really letting some misdeeds and wrongs off my chest.
I enjoy the statuary and sense of community the Church provides. One disadvantage to being an agnostic/non believer is that I felt adrift in a large and bustling sea.
A sense of community and identity I found to be much more difficult to come by living without God so to speak.
The philosophy behind the bible and the writings of the saints/philosophers was really something to chew on as well!
SisterAgatha, :smileshake:
You've been ignoring me since day one, that's OK, maybe lying and being rude is part of being a Catholic, I don't know and I don't care. You came here, we didn't go to you, so...yeah.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 08:53:46 PM
It is true. I can tell teh long story of my reversion to Catholocism, but I just enjoyed the hole it filled in my life.
So, if they fill your hole, why are you really here?
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 08:53:46 PM
I enjoyed going back to confession and really letting some misdeeds and wrongs off my chest.
God, Jesus, the Virgin Mary, Angels and Saints...all those entities can't stop you from sinning? If they can't, who can? :eyebrow:
We have therapists, now. ;)
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 08:53:46 PM
I enjoy the statuary and sense of community the Church provides. One disadvantage to being an agnostic/non believer is that I felt adrift in a large and bustling sea.
Oh, wonderful, so you drifted here, to our forum. OK.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 08:53:46 PM
The philosophy behind the bible and the writings of the saints/philosophers was really something to chew on as well!
Yes! :tellmemore:
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Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 08:53:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on November 07, 2017, 07:04:19 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
OK. I give up. Its time I give you a little confession!
This may come as a shock to you all but I am not who you think I am. I am not in fact a nun who teaches at a little happy Catholic school.
I am in fact just a regular everyday sort of Catholic.
I was an athesit/irreligious for the longest time but lately I embraced the Catholic faith. I am surprised at how much sense it all makes, and never would have thought it would all those years ago!
Anyway.. I am sorry for the deception, I thought it was just a funny joke and more of a "little white lie" than anything else.
So...apologies...and hopefuly I cleared up any misunderstanding!
Well I'm glad you fessed up what I spotted on the first post. I didn't believe you then and I don't believe you now. "I was an athesit/irreligious for the longest time" bullshit. Now we're getting the sympathy troll. I really don't know what motivates people to do what you do. smh
It is true. I can tell teh long story of my reversion to Catholocism, but I just enjoyed the hole it filled in my life. People come and go, fail and succeed but no matter what, God,Jesus, the Virgin Mary, Angels and Saints are there to stay and are always on your side.
I enjoyed going back to confession and really letting some misdeeds and wrongs off my chest.
I enjoy the statuary and sense of community the Church provides. One disadvantage to being an agnostic/non believer is that I felt adrift in a large and bustling sea.
A sense of community and identity I found to be much more difficult to come by living without God so to speak.
The philosophy behind the bible and the writings of the saints/philosophers was really something to chew on as well!
Just remember your god is on your side should you suffer from a set of diseases that causes every day to be pain filled to the point where there is no comfortable position, you are at your max on morphine with no real relief from the suffering . . . Like a friend of mine. Remrmber sll thise heavenly bodies love you when tens of thoussnds are dying of disease and starvation due to natural causes.
If there was a god it would be a totally heartless entity.
It's all in your mind, Aggie, just a bunch of brain cells that give you a good feeling in your sorry little life. Say "Bahhhh" to the other sheep for us.
QuoteYou've been ignoring me since day one . . .
Don't feel bad (or do I mean good?) about it, Mags. Aggie is naturally ignorant.
Quote from: Dave on November 07, 2017, 09:39:08 PM
QuoteYou've been ignoring me since day one . . .
Don't feel bad (or do I mean good?) about it, Mags. Aggie is naturally ignorant.
I don't feel bad or good about. She/he lies, a lot, for the fun of it. I wouldn't want to continue a conversation or a friendship with someone like that. ;)
She/he is a Catholic, I am an atheist, according to some, she/he is "good," I am bad, I don't think it would work.
:dominidomini: / :devil2:
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
I am in fact just a regular everyday sort of Catholic.
So, you're a liar. Seems fair...
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
OK. I give up. Its time I give you a little confession!
This may come as a shock to you all but I am not who you think I am. I am not in fact a nun who teaches at a little happy Catholic school.
I am in fact just a regular everyday sort of Catholic.
I was an athesit/irreligious for the longest time but lately I embraced the Catholic faith. I am surprised at how much sense it all makes, and never would have thought it would all those years ago!
Anyway.. I am sorry for the deception, I thought it was just a funny joke and more of a "little white lie" than anything else.
So...apologies...and hopefuly I cleared up any misunderstanding!
Initially I gave you the benefit of the doubt,
SisterAgatha. It didn't take long for you to dispense with that benefit. I question whether you're capable of participating in good faith in discussions here. Your apology, like the rest of your schtick, is shallow and unconvincing.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
I was an athesit/irreligious for the longest time but lately I embraced the Catholic faith. I am surprised at how much sense it all makes, and never would have thought it would all those years ago!
It makes sense that it works both ways:
Relax, "Sister" Aggie -- we all suspected you weren't a nun and knew you weren't an English teacher, not with all the grammar mistakes you make.
Back when you were an atheist, did you believe in the supernatural? I know some atheists do, but most do not and I've always wondered what convinced people who went from not believing in the supernatural to believing in it. The supernatural has always seemed the most massive stumbling block to religious belief for me.
I've known a number of Xtians who claimed to be ex-atheists, like this guy in this YouTube vid, but when questioned about it, it turns out they weren't atheists at all but just lapsed or lazy deists.
I worked with Bill Morgan for some 15+ years -- he was a civil engineer in the same Navy office where I was a contract specialist. We would sometimes talk about religion at lunch, tho I always had to remind him that just because I talked about religion didn't mean I was converting. When I retired he gave me a NIV bible.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
Anyway.. I am sorry for the deception, I thought it was just a funny joke and more of a "little white lie" than anything else.
Is a "white lie" the same as lying for Jesus? I get confused by all the loopholes Xtians invent for themselves.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on November 07, 2017, 11:21:42 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
Anyway.. I am sorry for the deception, I thought it was just a funny joke and more of a "little white lie" than anything else.
Is a "white lie" the same as lying for Jesus? I get confused by all the loopholes Xtians invent for themselves.
In the case of practicing Catholics, all they have to do is go and speak to some priest about their "misdeeds" and "wrongs" and they'll perform some cleansing ritual and it's like it never happened, you know?
Sister A, you have confessed. That is an obligatory Catholic ritual I am told.
Your original chicanery about being a nun is forgivable. The bit about being a converted atheist is not forgivable. We have heard that one some many times as to make it a joke. No way in hell....or heaven...or valhalla... that you were ever an atheist who converted to some form of deism or other fairy tale relief from reality.
Forgive me for lashing out at your absurd claim. We are not atheists by the luck of the draw. We are atheists because we are thinkers, readers, pursuers of logic, students of history, students of physics, of astronomy, and most of all students of common sense who are not inclined to accept mythological, unsubstantiated,accounts of some person or entity that created the earth and all its birds and beasts and Adam and Eve and the talking snake and the immaculate conception, and the holy trinity, the infallible pope and all that other incredibly naive manner of belief.
Some of us have been amused by your posts, some have even enjoyed them as a respite from the natural order of things.
Please continue with your posts because a circus does really need a clown.
Quote from: Icarus on November 08, 2017, 12:37:02 AM
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Forgive me for lashing out at your absurd claim. We are not atheists by the luck of the draw. We are atheists because we are thinkers, readers, pursuers of logic, students of history, students of physics, of astronomy, and most of all students of common sense who are not inclined to accept mythological, unsubstantiated,accounts of some person or entity...
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I'm not a thinker, reader, pursuer of logic, student of history, student of physics, or of astronomy.
I'm an atheists by the luck of the draw.Anyways...
I would like all of us to remember what
SisterAgatha said the first day she came here. After reading her first post, I realized that the biggest lie is not that she's not a nun, the biggest lie is her/him saying, "Im really looking forward to some productive discussions!"
:d'oh!:
Quote from: SisterAgatha on September 23, 2017, 09:53:45 PM
Hi everyone.
For purposes of this forum my name is Sister Agatha!
I am a sister and teacher at a Catholic grade school/middle school somewhere in the midwest.
Forgive me for saying so, but I was intrigued by atheism and athesits, because at some level I don't really understand them.
Now now. I know Im just a little bit biased being a nun and all, but I almost find it impossible to believe that anyone coudl really live "without God".
God is love. God is smiling at a child's fingerpainting, playing a guitar and singing a lovely song, and quite frankly just being there with for someone when the've had a rotten day, and them being there for you. In my mind God is love itself, and for me living without God would be pretty lonesome! :-[
I suppose some of the bible stories sound a little wild, but I could never imagine living without Jesus. Honestly when I've had a bad day at school and am ready to jsut call it quits, I say a little prayer to Jesus..and I can't explain it..He always gives me the strength I need to get through the day.
I am so happy you agreed to let me post here, and Im really looking forward to some productive discussions!
Wait...
"Forgive me for saying so, but I was intrigued by atheism and athesits, because at some level I don't really understand them."
?????
Didn't you just say in your "apology" that you, "were an athesit/irreligious for the longest time but lately you've embraced the Catholic faith.?
:eyebrow:
I can't believe anything you say, anymore. :felix:
I want to, but I can't. :offtobed:
So are we now at the end of the deception?
Quote from: OldGit on November 08, 2017, 09:41:48 AM
So are we now at the end of the deception?
And, hopefully do not have to put up with any more crap.
Got anything intelligent to say, Aggie?
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on November 07, 2017, 11:12:22 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
I was an athesit/irreligious for the longest time but lately I embraced the Catholic faith. I am surprised at how much sense it all makes, and never would have thought it would all those years ago!
It makes sense that it works both ways:
OMG...I just love this Julia Sweeney video Books! Thanks for posting. I had never seen it before. I have seen her "God Said Ha" film, and have enjoyed her when she is on "This American Life", but this is great.
Anyway I watched half of "Letting Go of God" last night and will watch the rest tonight.
You know, if it weren't for Sister Agatha, AKA "Some Internet Dude Living in His Parents Basement" I wouldn't have had the joy of discovering Julia's video, so thanks Sista!
I do feel bad that Sister isn't really a nun because I was saving this for just the right occasion, now I'm kinda bummed I didn't get to utilize it...anyway it's NSFW.
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Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 07, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
This may come as a shock to you all but I am not who you think I am. I am not in fact a nun who teaches at a little happy Catholic school.
I am so surprised.
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You know, it's like one of the ten commandments: Thous shalt not bear false witness... oh wait, that says the opposite.
Doesn't it feel weird for you to be less moral than all these atheists around here?
Quote from: Davin on November 08, 2017, 02:52:03 PM
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Doesn't it feel weird for you to be less moral than all these atheists around here?
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Quote from: Magdalena on November 08, 2017, 06:12:45 AM
I'm not a thinker, reader, pursuer of logic, student of history, student of physics, or of astronomy.
I'm an atheists by the luck of the draw.
I'm an atheist by default -- none of the theist stories make any sense, except in the sitting around a campfire with a flashlight shining on your face way. And that's a very limited sense of "sense".
Quote from: Magdalena on November 08, 2017, 10:41:19 PM
Quote from: Davin on November 08, 2017, 02:52:03 PM
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Doesn't it feel weird for you to be less moral than all these atheists around here?
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If I'm remembering right from my own Xtian indoctrination (it was so long ago) simply believing in god is a get-out-of-jail-free card. You can lie, cheat, steal, rape, murder and all sorts of anti-social malicious whatnot but you're still morally superior to an atheist who doesn't do any of those things. It's the biggest of the loopholes I was asking "Sister" about.
OK. I guess I have a little explaining to do.
Why did I choose to pose as a nun? Just for giggles really.
Being somebody like Pope Francis would blow my cover completely.
I thought Id pose as a nun from a Catholic school, just because I thought it was funny and seemed plausible enough for me not to be recognized immediately. Just FYI I think there are very few (if any) Catholic schools that are run in the way "mine" was.
I was really just aping/exagerrating what was the norm for Catholic schools in the pre and post VII era (1955-1975 or so). My parents have told me plenty of stories about that let me tell you...and it is usually that era that strident ex-Catholics talk about (i.e, big football player sized nuns telling them everybody goes to Hell etc.)
I think Catholicism filled the vacuum in my life. It can stretch credulity but the idea of Jesus' unconditional love, his actual real live presence in the eucharist, the commandments of God (Love one other as I have loved you, give to sick, hungry, lonely afflicted etc.)
I also enjoy saying the rosary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosary.
It is a lovely devotion and you can meditate on the mysteries of Jesus from the bible.
It is so therapeutic..and really has given me a new lease on life!
And as usual, Sister just blathers nonsense and doesn't answer questions or comment on issues raised.
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It's like riding an eternal unmerry-go-round.
OK, Aggie, you have just told us that your normal life was unfufilled and that a tale about an imaginary entity and an idealised father figure filled your void.
Just so long as you are now happy that is OK. But do you have to keep blathering on about it like a little girl gushing about her new doll.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 09, 2017, 01:17:02 AM
OK. I guess I have a little explaining to do.
Why did I choose to pose as a nun? Just for giggles really.
Being somebody like Pope Francis would blow my cover completely.
I thought Id pose as a nun from a Catholic school, just because I thought it was funny and seemed plausible enough for me not to be recognized immediately. Just FYI I think there are very few (if any) Catholic schools that are run in the way "mine" was.
My daughters were both schooled Catholic, pre school through high school, there were no nuns involved as far as I know. My wife wanted them to go there because she thought it was nicer and children are her profession so I conceded. I think she was probably right, a bit more nurturing than the public school. I pity the lay Catholics doing good work, living in the real world guided by an ideal whilst their daintily dressed betters are fucking children and the niceness ideal.
SisterAgatha, you could have said:
"I'm going to pretend to be a nun, I think it'll be fun"
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 09, 2017, 01:17:02 AMI think Catholicism filled the vacuum in my life. It can stretch credulity but the idea of Jesus' unconditional love, his actual real live presence in the eucharist, the commandments of God (Love one other as I have loved you, give to sick, hungry, lonely afflicted etc.)
I also enjoy saying the rosary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosary.
It is a lovely devotion and you can meditate on the mysteries of Jesus from the bible.
It is so therapeutic..and really has given me a new lease on life!
I make beer and drink beer, it's got bubbles and beery goodness.
I meditate on the mysteries of the yeast in my fermenting vessel.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 09, 2017, 01:17:02 AM
It is so therapeutic..and really has given me a new lease on life!
I'd rather own my life, live without a land lord, any kinda forken lord.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 09, 2017, 01:17:02 AM
Why did I choose to pose as a nun? Just for giggles really.
Quote from: Davin on November 01, 2017, 02:10:51 PM
I find it a bit suspicious that the "sister" here has chosen an avatar that comes from a movie about a lounge singer pretending to be a nun, and goes about asking all sorts of controversial questions while refusing to engage in the discussion.
Quote from: Bad Penny II on November 09, 2017, 02:37:19 PM
I make beer and drink beer, it's got bubbles and beery goodness.
I meditate on the mysteries of the yeast in my fermenting vessel.
I'd rather own my life, live without a land lord, any kinda forken lord.
Me, too! :beer:
I'm currently meditating on the maturing of Yule brew, and the fermentation of brown ale. Soon I shall enter the meditative state known as bottling.
Quote from: Guardian85 on November 09, 2017, 10:34:42 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on November 09, 2017, 02:37:19 PM
I make beer and drink beer, it's got bubbles and beery goodness.
I meditate on the mysteries of the yeast in my fermenting vessel.
I'd rather own my life, live without a land lord, any kinda forken lord.
Me, too! :beer:
I'm currently meditating on the maturing of Yule brew, and the fermentation of brown ale. Soon I shall enter the meditative state known as bottling.
What's drinking? The worshiping phase? :grin:
Quote from: Magdalena on November 08, 2017, 06:12:45 AM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on September 23, 2017, 09:53:45 PM
Hi everyone.
For purposes of this forum my name is Sister Agatha!
I am a sister and teacher at a Catholic grade school/middle school somewhere in the midwest.
Forgive me for saying so, but I was intrigued by atheism and athesits, because at some level I don't really understand them.
Now now. I know Im just a little bit biased being a nun and all, but I almost find it impossible to believe that anyone coudl really live "without God".
God is love. God is smiling at a child's fingerpainting, playing a guitar and singing a lovely song, and quite frankly just being there with for someone when the've had a rotten day, and them being there for you. In my mind God is love itself, and for me living without God would be pretty lonesome! :-[
I suppose some of the bible stories sound a little wild, but I could never imagine living without Jesus. Honestly when I've had a bad day at school and am ready to jsut call it quits, I say a little prayer to Jesus..and I can't explain it..He always gives me the strength I need to get through the day.
I am so happy you agreed to let me post here, and Im really looking forward to some productive discussions!
Wait...
"Forgive me for saying so, but I was intrigued by atheism and athesits, because at some level I don't really understand them."
?????
Didn't you just say in your "apology" that you, "were an athesit/irreligious for the longest time but lately you've embraced the Catholic faith.?
:eyebrow:
I can't believe anything you say, anymore. :felix:
I want to, but I can't. :offtobed:
It is weird, if she really ever had been an atheist then she would have a better understanding of atheism and the non-religious.
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...but then why are they always so sad?Reminded me of SisterAgatha, who thinks that we are.
^^^
I'm done trying to understand SisterAgatha. :fingertap:
When she/he says something, it's like this:
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Quote from: Guardian85 on November 09, 2017, 10:34:42 PM
I'm currently meditating on the maturing of Yule brew, and the fermentation of brown ale. Soon I shall enter the meditative state known as bottling.
This Yule brew isn't going to involve any odd flavors, is it? Like pumpkin, or cranberry? Or maybe roast goose?
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on November 10, 2017, 12:35:53 AM
Quote from: Guardian85 on November 09, 2017, 10:34:42 PM
I'm currently meditating on the maturing of Yule brew, and the fermentation of brown ale. Soon I shall enter the meditative state known as bottling.
This Yule brew isn't going to involve any odd flavors, is it? Like pumpkin, or cranberry? Or maybe roast goose?
Or, (shudder) Brussel sprouts!?
Quote from: Magdalena on November 09, 2017, 11:46:18 PM
^^^
I'm done trying to understand SisterAgatha. :fingertap:
When she/he says something, it's like this:
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Quote from: Dave on November 10, 2017, 08:20:44 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on November 10, 2017, 12:35:53 AM
Quote from: Guardian85 on November 09, 2017, 10:34:42 PM
I'm currently meditating on the maturing of Yule brew, and the fermentation of brown ale. Soon I shall enter the meditative state known as bottling.
This Yule brew isn't going to involve any odd flavors, is it? Like pumpkin, or cranberry? Or maybe roast goose?
Or, (shudder) Brussel sprouts!?
That actually sounds appealing, a Yule Brew with a hint of Brussel Sprouts, maybe with a top-note of Mangelwurzels?
So not only is Sister Agatha not a nun, nor a teacher as most of us surmised from the very beginning, but practically every post they have made has been nothing but a fabrication. There is no Sister Bellarmine, or Sisters Eustace, Elizabeth or Aloysius. No troubled kids named Johnny or Billy Flannigan. No decorated classrooms, or a mission trip to fucking Kurdistan or volunteering outside of abortion clinics.
I would also further surmise that this person is neither a Catholic, nor a woman.
I think all we really know about this person up to this point is that they are extremely misogynist, a vapid holocaust denier, obviously anti-semantic, and extremely bad at trolling.
Have I left anything out?
Quote from: Father Bruno on November 10, 2017, 03:20:07 PM
So not only is Sister Agatha not a nun, nor a teacher as most of us surmised from the very beginning, but practically every post they have made has been nothing but a fabrication. There is no Sister Bellarmine, or Sisters Eustace, Elizabeth or Aloysius. No troubled kids named Johnny or Billy Flannigan. No decorated classrooms, or a mission trip to fucking Kurdistan or volunteering outside of abortion clinics.
I would also further surmise that this person is neither a Catholic, nor a woman.
I think all we really know about this person up to this point is that they are extremely misogynist, a vapid holocaust denier, obviously anti-semantic, and extremely bad at trolling.
Have I left anything out?
Is he/she/it human or a bot?
I suppose I should clarify.
I was not an athesit the way you guys are. I rarely thought about atheism or agnositcism or God.
I was raised Catholic true, but for the longest time God (or his absence) was just not on my radar at all.
I picked Catholocism because it was the religion of my youth but also it just made the most sense to me.
I also like its ancient traditions and how it seemed to be the historical continuation of Jesus' ministry and commission.
For some reason I don't think Pastor Bill's first Methodist church existed in the first few centuries of Christianity ;)
None of that absolves you of your guilt, Aggie. Nether, so far as we are concerned, will a life time of Hail Marys.
Only you can repair the fault by deciding to be a sensible person in future and treating all others with the respect they deserve.
Quote from: Dave on November 10, 2017, 04:39:48 PM
None of that absolves you of your guilt, Aggie. Nether, so far as we are concerned, will a life time of Hail Marys.
Only you can repair the fault by deciding to be a sensible person in future and treating all others with the respect they deserve.
oh lighten up it was only a bit of fun!
Father Bruno is most unfair in his characterization of me. Sure I stretched the truth a bit... and Im sorry..again it was only sort of like role exploring.
As it happens, I am in fact a Catholic and will be happy to answer any and all questions you have about how I came to that really lovely faith
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 10, 2017, 05:02:33 PM
Quote from: Dave on November 10, 2017, 04:39:48 PM
None of that absolves you of your guilt, Aggie. Nether, so far as we are concerned, will a life time of Hail Marys.
Only you can repair the fault by deciding to be a sensible person in future and treating all others with the respect they deserve.
oh lighten up it was only a bit of fun!
Father Bruno is most unfair in his characterization of me. Sure I stretched the truth a bit... and Im sorry..again it was only sort of like role exploring.
As it happens, I am in fact a Catholic and will be happy to answer any and all questions you have about how I came to that really lovely faith
It was a childish lack of respect for us and your church.
I, for one, are not particularly interested in how your regained your irrationality.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 10, 2017, 05:02:33 PM
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As it happens, I am in fact a Catholic and will be happy to answer any and all questions you have about how I came to that really lovely faith
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Quote from: Dave on November 10, 2017, 05:08:16 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 10, 2017, 05:02:33 PM
Quote from: Dave on November 10, 2017, 04:39:48 PM
None of that absolves you of your guilt, Aggie. Nether, so far as we are concerned, will a life time of Hail Marys.
Only you can repair the fault by deciding to be a sensible person in future and treating all others with the respect they deserve.
oh lighten up it was only a bit of fun!
Father Bruno is most unfair in his characterization of me. Sure I stretched the truth a bit... and Im sorry..again it was only sort of like role exploring.
As it happens, I am in fact a Catholic and will be happy to answer any and all questions you have about how I came to that really lovely faith
It was a childish lack of respect for us and your church.
I, for one, are not particularly interested in how your regained your irrationality.
Oh Ok... it was a little bit childish and I could have been a bit more truthful about who I was.
But did you enjoy sort of the "world" I created with little Billy Flanigan and the stern, morose Sister Bellarmine?
I thought it would give you a little snapshot of the typical Catholic school circa 1970 or so.
The dynamics of the school, such as mischivious rapscallions, grim strict nuns/pious naive ones and misbehaving teens (see Halloween party) were very representative of a Catholic school of the late 60s early 70s.
Anyway believe me I am aware of all the bad things the Catholic Churhc has done. Surprisingly IMO is the actions of the Catholic Church and state in Ireland circa 1920-1975 or so.
Quote from: Davin on November 10, 2017, 01:46:54 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on November 09, 2017, 11:46:18 PM
^^^
I'm done trying to understand SisterAgatha. :fingertap:
When she/he says something, it's like this:
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(https://i.imgur.com/Gqlgi60.jpg)
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Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 10, 2017, 07:04:54 PM
Quote from: Dave on November 10, 2017, 05:08:16 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 10, 2017, 05:02:33 PM
Quote from: Dave on November 10, 2017, 04:39:48 PM
None of that absolves you of your guilt, Aggie. Nether, so far as we are concerned, will a life time of Hail Marys.
Only you can repair the fault by deciding to be a sensible person in future and treating all others with the respect they deserve.
oh lighten up it was only a bit of fun!
Father Bruno is most unfair in his characterization of me. Sure I stretched the truth a bit... and Im sorry..again it was only sort of like role exploring.
As it happens, I am in fact a Catholic and will be happy to answer any and all questions you have about how I came to that really lovely faith
It was a childish lack of respect for us and your church.
I, for one, are not particularly interested in how your regained your irrationality.
Oh Ok... it was a little bit childish and I could have been a bit more truthful about who I was.
But did you enjoy sort of the "world" I created with little Billy Flanigan and the stern, morose Sister Bellarmine?
I thought it would give you a little snapshot of the typical Catholic school circa 1970 or so.
The dynamics of the school, such as mischivious rapscallions, grim strict nuns/pious naive ones and misbehaving teens (see Halloween party) were very representative of a Catholic school of the late 60s early 70s.
Anyway believe me I am aware of all the bad things the Catholic Churhc has done. Surprisingly IMO is the actions of the Catholic Church and state in Ireland circa 1920-1975 or so.
We didn't enjoy it because that's not an accurate or even a real "snapshot" of a typical Catholic School of the 70s...I know because I spend
12 fucking years in a Catholic School (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=15303.15). (As I described in your intro page)
Your idea of a typical "Catholic School" it would appear, is one that you've gleaned from movies and television and not from a real experience.
You are still not being completely straight with us, and by the way my earlier characterization of you is rather spot on I believe.
Tell me, why don't you like Jews?
Quote from: Dave on November 10, 2017, 08:20:44 AM
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Quote from: Guardian85 on November 09, 2017, 10:34:42 PM
I'm currently meditating on the maturing of Yule brew, and the fermentation of brown ale. Soon I shall enter the meditative state known as bottling.
This Yule brew isn't going to involve any odd flavors, is it? Like pumpkin, or cranberry? Or maybe roast goose?
Or, (shudder) Brussel sprouts!?
No, just a dark brew seasoned with cinnammon, nutmeg, anise and a hint of sweet orange.
Total crapshoot as to how it will turn out, so I set a bog standard brown ale just in case....
Quote from: Guardian85 on November 10, 2017, 08:48:14 PM
Quote from: Dave on November 10, 2017, 08:20:44 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on November 10, 2017, 12:35:53 AM
Quote from: Guardian85 on November 09, 2017, 10:34:42 PM
I'm currently meditating on the maturing of Yule brew, and the fermentation of brown ale. Soon I shall enter the meditative state known as bottling.
This Yule brew isn't going to involve any odd flavors, is it? Like pumpkin, or cranberry? Or maybe roast goose?
Or, (shudder) Brussel sprouts!?
No, just a dark brew seasoned with cinnammon, nutmeg, anise and a hint of sweet orange.
Total crapshoot as to how it will turn out, so I set a bog standard brown ale just in case....
Sounds a bit like mulled ale but without the red hot poker!
http://cask-marque.co.uk/cask-matters/make-mulled-ale/
OK, that one doesn't use a poker either...
Got my saliva running now . . .
Quote from: Father Bruno on November 10, 2017, 07:16:29 PM
We didn't enjoy it because that's not an accurate or even a real "snapshot" of a typical Catholic School of the 70s...I know because I spend 12 fucking years in a Catholic School (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=15303.15). (As I described in your intro page)
Your idea of a typical "Catholic School" it would appear, is one that you've gleaned from movies and television and not from a real experience.
Yes, it looked like a caricature more than anything. Tell me SisterAgatha, did you actually attend a Catholic school in the 70s? Judging from your posts I would say most probably not, I would guess you're barely past your teens.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on November 10, 2017, 05:02:33 PM
Quote from: Dave on November 10, 2017, 04:39:48 PM
None of that absolves you of your guilt, Aggie. Nether, so far as we are concerned, will a life time of Hail Marys.
Only you can repair the fault by deciding to be a sensible person in future and treating all others with the respect they deserve.
oh lighten up it was only a bit of fun!
So lying qualifies as "a bit of fun" for Catholics? Do priests get away with pedophilia because that's what is considered "mischief"? I think you should not be speaking for your church "Sister", they have enough image problems without your help.
I also think Father Bruno went easy on you.
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on November 09, 2017, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: Guardian85 on November 09, 2017, 10:34:42 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on November 09, 2017, 02:37:19 PM
I make beer and drink beer, it's got bubbles and beery goodness.
I meditate on the mysteries of the yeast in my fermenting vessel.
I'd rather own my life, live without a land lord, any kinda forken lord.
Me, too! :beer:
I'm currently meditating on the maturing of Yule brew, and the fermentation of brown ale. Soon I shall enter the meditative state known as bottling.
What's drinking? The worshiping phase? :grin:
Communion. :dominidomini: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
Quote from: Guardian85 on November 09, 2017, 10:34:42 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on November 09, 2017, 02:37:19 PM
I make beer and drink beer, it's got bubbles and beery goodness.
I meditate on the mysteries of the yeast in my fermenting vessel.
I'd rather own my life, live without a land lord, any kinda forken lord.
Me, too! :beer:
I'm currently meditating on the maturing of Yule brew, and the fermentation of brown ale. Soon I shall enter the meditative state known as bottling.
Ye bottling, the washing,
repetition, repetition
Don't talk to me!
Did I rinse that bottle thrice?
Or only twice?
I'll rinse it again just to be sure.
Some ascend, get themselves some kegs.
I haven't done that yet.
I'm a devotee of the toucan stout
https://club.coopers.com.au/coopers-forum/topic/11472/ (https://club.coopers.com.au/coopers-forum/topic/11472/)
Quote from: Father Bruno on November 10, 2017, 03:20:07 PMI think all we really know about this person up to this point is that they are extremely misogynist, a vapid holocaust denier, obviously anti-semantic, and extremely bad at trolling.
Have I left anything out?
Only occasionally anti-semantic; enough to make it clear that
SisterAgatha is not an English teacher. :lol:
I didn't see the Holocaust denial, but I'd say
SisterAgatha does have somewhat of a fixation on Jews and perhaps harbors some un-examined prejudice against them.
SisterAgatha, despite the rather unsavory beginning to your membership at this site, I for one would rather you stuck around and made an effort to engage in honest dialogues. A Catholic perspective would be welcome, in my opinion. Despite my personal animus to the Catholic church, it is still a powerful element of human society and shouldn't be ignored in the discussions we have here. Right now, you're under threat of a permanent ban, but if you can find it in yourself to be civil and present your position with reason and evidence (avoid preaching), in a few months that threat could be lifted.
Quote from: Recusant on November 11, 2017, 05:04:09 PM
SisterAgatha, despite the rather unsavory beginning to your membership at this site, I for one would rather you stuck around and made an effort to engage in honest dialogues. A Catholic perspective would be welcome, in my opinion. Despite my personal animus to the Catholic church, it is still a powerful element of human society and shouldn't be ignored in the discussions we have here. Right now, you're under threat of a permanent ban, but if you can find it in yourself to be civil and present your position with reason and evidence (avoid preaching), in a few months that threat could be lifted.
I agree.
Quote from: Tank on November 11, 2017, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: Recusant on November 11, 2017, 05:04:09 PM
SisterAgatha, despite the rather unsavory beginning to your membership at this site, I for one would rather you stuck around and made an effort to engage in honest dialogues. A Catholic perspective would be welcome, in my opinion. Despite my personal animus to the Catholic church, it is still a powerful element of human society and shouldn't be ignored in the discussions we have here. Right now, you're under threat of a permanent ban, but if you can find it in yourself to be civil and present your position with reason and evidence (avoid preaching), in a few months that threat could be lifted.
I agree.
Seconded.
Quote from: Recusant on November 11, 2017, 04:54:46 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on November 10, 2017, 03:20:07 PMI think all we really know about this person up to this point is that they are extremely misogynist, a vapid holocaust denier, obviously anti-semantic, and extremely bad at trolling.
Have I left anything out?
Only occasionally anti-semantic; enough to make it clear that SisterAgatha is not an English teacher. :lol:
Best typo ever! :lol:
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on November 11, 2017, 05:13:00 PM
Quote from: Tank on November 11, 2017, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: Recusant on November 11, 2017, 05:04:09 PM
SisterAgatha, despite the rather unsavory beginning to your membership at this site, I for one would rather you stuck around and made an effort to engage in honest dialogues. A Catholic perspective would be welcome, in my opinion. Despite my personal animus to the Catholic church, it is still a powerful element of human society and shouldn't be ignored in the discussions we have here. Right now, you're under threat of a permanent ban, but if you can find it in yourself to be civil and present your position with reason and evidence (avoid preaching), in a few months that threat could be lifted.
I agree.
Seconded.
*Psh...* I don't know.
Quote from: Recusant on November 11, 2017, 05:04:09 PM
SisterAgatha, despite the rather unsavory beginning to your membership at this site, I for one would rather you stuck around and made an effort to engage in honest dialogues. A Catholic perspective would be welcome, in my opinion. Despite my personal animus to the Catholic church, it is still a powerful element of human society and shouldn't be ignored in the discussions we have here. Right now, you're under threat of a permanent ban, but if you can find it in yourself to be civil and present your position with reason and evidence (avoid preaching), in a few months that threat could be lifted.
With those conditions in place, I'd be willing to give her another chance.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on November 11, 2017, 02:14:00 AM
So lying qualifies as "a bit of fun" for Catholics?
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Yes, a chance for sendibke debste.
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on November 11, 2017, 05:14:09 PM
Quote from: Recusant on November 11, 2017, 04:54:46 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on November 10, 2017, 03:20:07 PMI think all we really know about this person up to this point is that they are extremely misogynist, a vapid holocaust denier, obviously anti-semantic, and extremely bad at trolling.
Have I left anything out?
Only occasionally anti-semantic; enough to make it clear that SisterAgatha is not an English teacher. :lol:
Best typo ever! :lol:
This is funny, I only wish I had been clever enough to have done this purposely; alas it's only reflects the fact that I am also not an English teacher...nor very good at proof reading. ::)
I also agree with Recusant, and I would like to see Sister Agatha stick around for a while, as long as they come completely clean with whomever they actually are.
Going back to stuff that was lost in the transfer, but which I copied and stored elsewhere...
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Quote from: Dave on November 12, 2017, 04:43:20 PM
Trouble is, Aggie, you attempted to present a church that is all sweetness and light. Any even shallow skim through the history of the Catholic Church will show that, yes, there are members who seek to do only good (as in any beleif or non-belief group). However it is also a pit of intrigue, corruption, vice, greed . . . Just like any other group of . . .
But the RCC turned it into a hypocritical industry many centuries ago, trying to manipulate the whole word in an attempt to increase its power and influence. Just like the Communist Party then? Both tortured and killed in the name of their ideology.
That you have found a niche in which your needs fit and are satisfied is great for you, please use itvto make the world a better place for all - not by convertion but by example.. Remember those innocents who suffered, and still suffer, because of those who claim to be religious. It would be great if all people had a sense of ethics, empathy etc - but I expect these qualities in church leaders from local vicars upwards. If they act in an opposite way then they are, IMHO, worse than the casual "sinner" or the person totally without religious belief, the atheist, say, who acts in that same way.
Perhaps sentences for crimes like paedophillia should be automatically doubled for any person who takes advantage of a position of trust to abuse others.
First off I don't think the Catholic Church (as you understand it) is all sweetness and light. It's members have certainly done horrific things over the years, but what else is new? All that just proves the fallen nature of humanity and the need for God in our lives.
Actually if you think about it, given all the corruption and bad things the Catholic Church has been involved in, its further proof of it's divine nature that it has not yet been exterminated or gone extinct. Napolean was actually the closest person ever to be in a position to destroy the Catholic Church (kill the Pope, take out the Vatican etc.....)......but something or (someONE!) stayed his hand... ::)
I think the Catholic Church in the sense of it's spiritual and theological reality is all sunshine and light.....but it's members and times of it's history were far far from it... that is my 2 cents on the matter
So all your gushing about your church was just part of the false persona you tried to project then?
Aggie, your last post was the best I have seen so far in terms of seeming honesty. But your church still reeks of medieval policy and values, in all respects except making money, from what I have seen and heard of it.
QuoteActually if you think about it, given all the corruption and bad things the Catholic Church has been involved in, its further proof of it's divine nature that it has not yet been exterminated or gone extinct.
If that is the best offer you can make to excuse your church's behaviour it is simply yet another indication of your god's complicity in its actions, "divine" guilt.
I would suggest that Napoleon, like the Romans, was too sensible a diplomat to eradicate a religion when he could use it to control the people. Its all power politics in the end.
Sister Agatha, your "storytelling" could easily be viewed as lying.
Do you know where liars go when they die????
To be tortured with the Father of Lies--SATAN!
So do us all a favor and quit with the compulsive fiction.
Whoever you are, I bet we would all like the Real you better than the Sister Agatha you.
I agree, Dragonia, but I am begining to believe that this poster is pathologically incapable of holding a "normal" conversation. There was a moment were there sermed to be a real person breaking through, but it soon disappeared. No response to my last on this thread, but I am not surprised.
Perhaps we should pity this person rather than get exasperated. Or, maybe, it is a troll bot and that monent of intelligence was the programmer putting his or her oar in to muddy the water a bit more.
One might consider those who have undergone religious programming that has stuck robots anyway.
Quote from: Dave on November 30, 2017, 01:02:17 PM
I agree, Dragonia, but I am begining to believe that this poster is pathologically incapable of holding a "normal" conversation. There was a moment were there sermed to be a real person breaking through, but it soon disappeared. No response to my last on this thread, but I am not surprised.
Perhaps we should pity this person rather than get exasperated. Or, maybe, it is a troll bot and that monent of intelligence was the programmer putting his or her oar in to muddy the water a bit more.
One might consider those who have undergone religious programming that has stuck robots anyway.
You are probably right, Dave, that this person just can't hold a normal conversation. But I am not going to pity Agatha. For "she" shall exasperate me until the cows come home. :grrr:
You're a clever man,
Dave, and I'm not saying that just because I did the same thing as you did before
Asmodean successfully toiled to carry this site forward. :thumbsup:
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Quote from: Recusant on November 11, 2017, 05:04:09 PM
SisterAgatha, despite the rather unsavory beginning to your membership at this site, I for one would rather you stuck around and made an effort to engage in honest dialogues. A Catholic perspective would be welcome, in my opinion. Despite my personal animus to the Catholic church, it is still a powerful element of human society and shouldn't be ignored in the discussions we have here. Right now, you're under threat of a permanent ban, but if you can find it in yourself to be civil and present your position with reason and evidence (avoid preaching), in a few months that threat could be lifted.
Well thank you for the compliment (and it is a compliment in a manner of speaking!)
I really am sorry about my earlier posts. I had an opportunity to give Catholicism a good or at least reasonable face and honest presentation, and instead I degenerated into some silly stereotype of a Catholic school just for laughs.
I am more than willing to engage in an honest dialogue about the Catholic faith, because quite frankly I think there is a quite a lot of misunderstanding and lack of information on it among the broader population.
You have fundamentalist Protestants who think it is a weird symbiosis of Roman/Babylonian paganism with Christian trappings and most of the American population who think it is some strange "Christianesque" cult with a lot of strict rules and controversies. Im not saying you all are ill-informed I just think there is a big problem with that. The second largest religious group in USA after Catholics is Ex-Catholics!
I honestly struggled with the faith and turned my back on it for a while. The whole sex abuse stuff really made me give it up for a long time and also the "problem of evil" as in why do horrible events happen (war, AIDs, missing children, world hunger) that God does nothing to stop?
I thought for the longest time that if God was real he was dumb/evil, or that reasonably speaking he probably did not exist.
Yet I was drawn back for reasons I can't totally explain..
I've expressed my opinion on your reasons elsewhere (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=15443.msg364201#msg364201), but am glad that this post wasn't lost.