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Title: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 07:43:08 AM
I don't think we have a thread like this at HAF. I think it would be nice to see some physical objects like works of art, furniture, cars, etc., that we love, similar to the Music That Moves You thread. As a dyed in the wool materialist, I have a very strong physical response to some beautiful objects: I feel it as a weakening of the knees and butterflies in the stomach; sometimes it is so strong that tears well up in my eyes.

Here are three examples.

A Lalique car mascot.
(https://i.imgur.com/sLaBNEd.jpg)

More at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268415/Incredible-collection-glass-mascots-displayed-car-bonnets-1920s-France-set-raise-100-000-auction.html

Ceramics by Hans Coper. One of my very favourite ceramic artists.
(https://i.imgur.com/SQXcV09.jpg)

The Tizio lamp by Richard Sapper, designed in 1972. I just finished restoring one of the original ones that was dropped, and it is now as good as new. I will probably use it as a bedside lamp.
(https://i.imgur.com/WY4mY8Y.jpg)

If there is a good response to these, I will post some more objects that move me.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 04, 2018, 08:55:20 AM
Amongst my favourites are art deco figures, the detail, grace and energy of these is beautiful

(https://imgur.com/SN4Tjy7.jpg)

Then almost anything by Rennie Macintosh

(https://imgur.com/EAzjBUk.jpg)

And, just to be a bit different, something that simply fascinates me

(https://imgur.com/y3BsXsw.jpg)

That is a simple example of the 'visionary' Richard Buckminster Fuller's concept of 'Tensegrity', a 3D structure whose integrity relies on tension (and compression). There are far more complex structures but this, similar to the one I own, shows the principle.

There's a lot more . . .

And I thought I would add Japanese carving, especially the fun often expressed in netsuke

(https://imgur.com/bKoQoQ4.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 09:09:05 AM
Quote from: Dave on April 04, 2018, 08:55:20 AM
Amongst my favourites are art deco figures, the detail, grace and energy of these is beautiful

(https://imgur.com/SN4Tjy7.jpg)

Then almost anything by Rennie Macintosh

(https://imgur.com/EAzjBUk.jpg)

And, just to be a bit different, something that simply fascinates me

(https://imgur.com/y3BsXsw.jpg)

That is a simple example of the 'visionary' Richard Buckminster Fuller's concept of 'Tensegrity', a 3D structure whose integrity relies on tension (and compression). There are far more complex structures but this, similar to the one I own, shows the principle.

There's a lot more . . .

I also love Mackintosh. Unfortunately, I did not get the chance to see anything by him when I visited Glasgow.

That figure is beautiful; I'm pretty sure it is by Erté and worth a fortune. I am always on the lookout for one of his pieces at antique shops, hoping they would not know the value. That happened to me some years ago when I found a large signed Lalique vase for about £15. I was subsequently offered £6000 for it, which I refused.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 04, 2018, 09:19:28 AM
This example may not actualky be from the period, it is available on Amaxon but is still a good example of the style.

(https://imgur.com/nt5s9D4.jpg)

It is actually within my price range for utter mad money!
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 09:34:09 AM
Quote from: Dave on April 04, 2018, 09:19:28 AM
This example may not actualky be from the period, it is available on Amaxon but is still a good example of the style.

(https://imgur.com/nt5s9D4.jpg)

It is actually within my price range for utter mad money!

Maybe not by Erté, but Chiparus is still a good buy I think. You only live once!

I had a good dealer in Johannesburg who always alerted me to Lalique pieces. I managed to buy quite a few over the years, and although they were "mad" purchases at the time, I have never regretted any of them. I made an early decision to collect Lalique and not Gallé, which was just a matter of preference. Probably a good thing, because original Lalique pieces have increased hugely in value and currently fetch insane prices at auction.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Tank on April 04, 2018, 09:57:58 AM
(https://www.sony.com/is/image/gwtprod/515803876447b59098fbca121eacf9fa?fmt=pjpeg&wid=1014&hei=396&bgcolor=F1F5F9&bgc=F1F5F9)

FE 100-400mm G Master super-telephoto zoom lens
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 04, 2018, 10:00:01 AM
I went to some friends for dinner, which included a tossed salad. I was standing talking to my hostess in the kitchen as she tossed the salad, with stainless steel tools, in a large, heavy, very "sculptural" glass bowl. After the meal I helped wash up and got a close look at the bowl,

Yes, it was marked Lalique!  It was also heavily scored inside, it had been the family salad/fruit bowl from when Carol was a small kid . . .
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Asmodean on April 04, 2018, 10:00:11 AM
I want a 1999-ish Opel Omega sedan in good condition to have as my "hobby wheels"

It was the first car I owned, which I was sad to let go when its time came. The crap I had before it was merely adequate. My Omega, however, I liked. I know it was a sponge cake, even with a relatively big engine, but... It was a tasty sponge cake.

So, call it nostalgia, I suppose, but I do want one for good-weather motorway cruising.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftuning.im%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F04%2FOpel-Omega-B-Tuning-8.jpg&hash=bb75a59c43b647ca57f2f30dee19e3a954fd72e3)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 04, 2018, 10:09:08 AM
"Sponge cake" . . . Interesting if it refers to the shape, we used to call that "rounded" style "jelly mould".
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: No one on April 04, 2018, 10:12:32 AM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/1/19/Kaley-kaley-cuoco-ass.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/320?cb=20130916201639)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPRcZNugwGuIpyYlOLJn_O2qC42Zqt4UeuCSmTeFQZunBW4AR-mw)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEthG2KCQAE3ivh.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-h8UPx3Cf1q8/WIoyeSb2feI/AAAAAAAAAjk/Nd4SHawODiMSg6m4NOfNnNNxMcxrP-K-gCLcB/s1600/2017-Dodge-Charger-Review-640x452.jpg)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwdaBI2MHwcwuFtohf92tQkbvQe7_VMqhYH28FlNybD2uahgA_)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Asmodean on April 04, 2018, 11:11:06 AM
Quote from: Dave on April 04, 2018, 10:09:08 AM
"Sponge cake" . . . Interesting if it refers to the shape, we used to call that "rounded" style "jelly mould".
Suspension, actually  :P Jelly works too. I suspect it may have something to do with it being developed to also be a Cadillac.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 01:45:34 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 04, 2018, 10:00:01 AM
I went to some friends for dinner, which included a tossed salad. I was standing talking to my hostess in the kitchen as she tossed the salad, with stainless steel tools, in a large, heavy, very "sculptural" glass bowl. After the meal I helped wash up and got a close look at the bowl,

Yes, it was marked Lalique!  It was also heavily scored inside, it had been the family salad/fruit bowl from when Carol was a small kid . . .

If the bowl had the old man's signature, it would be worth a lot today. As much as I like the originals, I would not buy any modern Lalique. I now prefer Kosta Boda, IItala, and Orrefors pieces.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 01:51:42 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 04, 2018, 10:00:11 AM
I want a 1999-ish Opel Omega sedan in good condition to have as my "hobby wheels"

It was the first car I owned, which I was sad to let go when its time came. The crap I had before it was merely adequate. My Omega, however, I liked. I know it was a sponge cake, even with a relatively big engine, but... It was a tasty sponge cake.

So, call it nostalgia, I suppose, but I do want one for good-weather motorway cruising.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftuning.im%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F04%2FOpel-Omega-B-Tuning-8.jpg&hash=bb75a59c43b647ca57f2f30dee19e3a954fd72e3)

I am not much into cars, but that one is very nice. This is one is one of those "mad" purchases: not very practical, but nice in summer with the top down.
(https://i.imgur.com/yPyS0gm.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 04, 2018, 02:37:19 PM
How are you sinners ever going to get to heaven, burdened as you are with all this shit?

Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Asmodean on April 04, 2018, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 04, 2018, 02:37:19 PM
How are you sinners ever going to get to heaven, burdened as you are with all this shit?
Mine has wheels and an engine... Duuh!  ;)

Hermes will be OK too, I think. We can race, have an accident... Go through the Gates™ in a rolling fireball of total automotive carnage.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 02:48:58 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 04, 2018, 09:57:58 AM
(https://www.sony.com/is/image/gwtprod/515803876447b59098fbca121eacf9fa?fmt=pjpeg&wid=1014&hei=396&bgcolor=F1F5F9&bgc=F1F5F9)

FE 100-400mm G Master super-telephoto zoom lens

I just looked at some reviews, and it certainly looks like a great lens. Are getting one for your birthday, or do you own one?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 04, 2018, 03:52:06 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 04, 2018, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 04, 2018, 02:37:19 PM
How are you sinners ever going to get to heaven, burdened as you are with all this shit?
Mine has wheels and an engine... Duuh!  ;)

Hermes will be OK too, I think. We can race, have an accident... Go through the Gates™ in a rolling fireball of total automotive carnage.

Ye, I suppose No one could fit his packages in his ride too.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 03:54:57 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 04, 2018, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 04, 2018, 02:37:19 PM
How are you sinners ever going to get to heaven, burdened as you are with all this shit?
Mine has wheels and an engine... Duuh!  ;)

Hermes will be OK too, I think. We can race, have an accident... Go through the Gates™ in a rolling fireball of total automotive carnage.

That sounds like a good way to go.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 04:27:01 PM
I want to live here (Frank Lloyd Wright's 1935 Fallingwater house).
(https://i.imgur.com/SAfl01F.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 04, 2018, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 04:27:01 PM
I want to live here (Frank Lloyd Wright's 1935 Fallingwater house).
(https://i.imgur.com/SAfl01F.jpg)

That's strange, that image is a mirror to the one in my book on FLW's houses. The picture in there has the water frozen! But though I dislike most of that "boxy" (and detest the later "brutalist" corruption of it) style that looks a superb design.


Later: looks like the book got it wrong!

I prefer something rounded, this is the Norman Lyke house. Though this one would need, for me, some "bass relief" type artwork on the walls (simple shapes a la Mackintosh) and a dome (maybe for a telescope), oh, and not be in an Arizonea desert area!

(https://imgur.com/I7QL8tB.jpg)

Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 05:40:26 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7ALqzDS_kAE/UY76hUshnRI/AAAAAAAAA8s/ZDgsI78Xtuo/s800/photo.JPG)

Those are Plomb ratchets with their pebble finish on the handles. It was the original "thin head" design, coarse toothed, but very smooth to use. I have several later versions from after the company name was changed to Proto and use them when I can. Mine don't have the pebble finish though.

The design isn't as popular today because everyone thinks they need eighty or more teeth on a ratchet to get any work done but they are still in production with knurled handles. It's a very satisfying tool to use. The fact that there is almost no back drag comes in handy too. A combination of form and function.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 05:51:50 PM
(https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/03/f7/1f/31/colonial-houses-colonial.jpg)

I love the old style colonial houses too. This one is very similar to a late 18th century house we have on the farm. I'd like to take it down and put it on a new site but that is unlikely. The house has been sold several times and gutted to remove any remnants of the original interior walls. Just the original mortice and tennon framing remains.

I'd like to have that house with two downstairs rooms and one upstairs bedroom with a bit of a balcony looking down. Spiral staircase to save space and have the kitchen separated from the rest of the house by a breezeway, as was done at the time the house was built. Additional bedrooms would be in the same area as the kitchen.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 04, 2018, 05:52:38 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7ALqzDS_kAE/UY76hUshnRI/AAAAAAAAA8s/ZDgsI78Xtuo/s800/photo.JPG)


I think Jesus will let you into heaven with those, he was a tradey after all.



Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Asmodean on April 04, 2018, 05:55:50 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 05:51:50 PM
I'd like to have that house with two downstairs rooms and one upstairs bedroom with a bit of a balcony looking down. Spiral staircase to save space and have the kitchen separated from the rest of the house by a breezeway, as was done at the time the house was built. Additional bedrooms would be in the same area as the kitchen.
You mean like the ground floor and the attic? Or rooms in the basement? Because on that particular house, that would leave very little room for windows... That could make for an epic cinema or a man-cave though.

Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 04, 2018, 05:52:38 PM
I think Jesus will let you into heaven with those, he was a tradey after all.
He'd need to, wouldn't he? What with our automotive carnage to sort out??
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Tank on April 04, 2018, 06:00:06 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 02:48:58 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 04, 2018, 09:57:58 AM
(https://www.sony.com/is/image/gwtprod/515803876447b59098fbca121eacf9fa?fmt=pjpeg&wid=1014&hei=396&bgcolor=F1F5F9&bgc=F1F5F9)

FE 100-400mm G Master super-telephoto zoom lens

I just looked at some reviews, and it certainly looks like a great lens. Are getting one for your birthday, or do you own one?
Neither :( Just drooling for the moment.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 06:02:18 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 04, 2018, 05:55:50 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 05:51:50 PM
I'd like to have that house with two downstairs rooms and one upstairs bedroom with a bit of a balcony looking down. Spiral staircase to save space and have the kitchen separated from the rest of the house by a breezeway, as was done at the time the house was built. Additional bedrooms would be in the same area as the kitchen.
You mean like the ground floor and the attic? Or rooms in the basement? Because on that particular house, that would leave very little room for windows... That could make for an epic cinema or a man-cave though.

Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 04, 2018, 05:52:38 PM
I think Jesus will let you into heaven with those, he was a tradey after all.
He'd need to, wouldn't he? What with our automotive carnage to sort out??

The house I was talking about is in the same style but a bit bigger. The photo was just the closest original ex ample I could find. Also, the "attics" in these houses are rooms just like any other. They were a bit cramped but a space efficient design. Large windows would go on the south facing vertical wall with a lattice for ivy to keep the worst of the summer heat at bay.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Asmodean on April 04, 2018, 06:13:32 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 06:02:18 PM
The house I was talking about is in the same style but a bit bigger. The photo was just the closest original ex ample I could find. Also, the "attics" in these houses are rooms just like any other. They were a bit cramped but a space efficient design. Large windows would go on the south facing vertical wall with a lattice for ivy to keep the worst of the summer heat at bay.
Ah! To be honest, even though it was sporting Norwegian plates, that car pic was not of my Omega either  :P

What does one call them attics with that particular roof style though? Is it still an attic, or is it like... Second floor? In any case, it seems like a very nice dream home. I rented a place not too unlike that some years ago. Fjord view, a small garden, a deck for fishing and stuff... It was great. I do miss Sørlandet.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 06:53:13 PM
I'd just call it upstairs.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 07:07:28 PM
Eames Lounge Chair and Ottoman. I love it so much that I cannot part with it; it has travelled from Paris to Beirut to Johannesburg with me.
(https://i.imgur.com/iMoIzei.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 07:09:05 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 04, 2018, 05:52:38 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7ALqzDS_kAE/UY76hUshnRI/AAAAAAAAA8s/ZDgsI78Xtuo/s800/photo.JPG)


I think Jesus will let you into heaven with those, he was a tradey after all.

They are beautiful and embody the principle of "form follows function".
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:18:13 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 07:09:05 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 04, 2018, 05:52:38 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7ALqzDS_kAE/UY76hUshnRI/AAAAAAAAA8s/ZDgsI78Xtuo/s800/photo.JPG)


I think Jesus will let you into heaven with those, he was a tradey after all.

They are beautiful and embody the principle of "form follows function".

I was thinking about those ratchets after I posted and realized just how much care went into the design and production. Given their age the crisp lettering and pebble finish weren't machined, they were forged into each blank. I can't imagine the skill of those die cutters. And for the company to continually sharpen and replace each die as they become worn shows a commitment to detail you are unlikely to find today.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:18:49 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 07:07:28 PM
Eames Lounge Chair and Ottoman. I love it so much that I cannot part with it; it has travelled from Paris to Beirut to Johannesburg with me.
(https://i.imgur.com/iMoIzei.jpg)

How comfortable is it?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:18:49 PM
How comfortable is it?

One of the best I have ever sat in, but that is typical of all his designs. I have a few others and will post them as well. The consensus is that the 20th century belongs to Charles Eames as far as furniture design is concerned. This one was designed as a birthday present for his friend Billy Wilder in 1956. Wilder was a movie director (Some Like It Hot, among others). If you want to buy one, PLEASE get the original Herman Miller product, not one of the awful knock-offs one sees.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Honestly hermes, I probably couldn't afford the knockoff. I do need a better chair though. Maybe I'll come across one in a junk store for cheap!

ETA: Hole E Chit! That's a six thousand dollar chair. You certainly have refined tastes.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 07:46:59 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Honestly hermes, I probably couldn't afford the knockoff. I do need a better chair though. Maybe I'll come across one in a junk store for cheap!

As I told Dave, you only live once! The price depends on the leather option you choose, but it is around $5000:
http://store.hermanmiller.com/living/lounge-chairs-and-ottomans/eames-lounge-chair-and-ottoman/5667.html?lang=en_US

Do you need a desk chair? I can recommend the Aeron, also from Herman Miller company. I told the dealer I was an architect, so qualified for a discount on my Aeron desk chair.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Tank on April 04, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Honestly hermes, I probably couldn't afford the knockoff. I do need a better chair though. Maybe I'll come across one in a junk store for cheap!

ETA: Hole E Chit! That's a six thousand dollar chair. You certainly have refined tastes.
And no children! LOL
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 04, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Honestly hermes, I probably couldn't afford the knockoff. I do need a better chair though. Maybe I'll come across one in a junk store for cheap!

ETA: Hole E Chit! That's a six thousand dollar chair. You certainly have refined tastes.
And no children! LOL

Tank, that brings us to a part of my life I have not revealed so far at HAF. I have been debating with myself whether or not to reveal that I was married before. I have a wonderful daughter and an ex wife who is now unbelievably close to me - almost like the sister I never had. Perhaps one day I will tell more.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 08:03:07 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 07:46:59 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Honestly hermes, I probably couldn't afford the knockoff. I do need a better chair though. Maybe I'll come across one in a junk store for cheap!

As I told Dave, you only live once! The price depends on the leather option you choose, but it is around $5000:
http://store.hermanmiller.com/living/lounge-chairs-and-ottomans/eames-lounge-chair-and-ottoman/5667.html?lang=en_US

Do you need a desk chair? I can recommend the Aeron, also from Herman Miller company. I told the dealer I was an architect, so qualified for a discount on my Aeron desk chair.

I need a recliner, really. My hips bother me quite a bit and elevating my legs seems to help. I also like to sleep in a chair. My current recliner is pretty worn out though so I make due on the couch with a pillow fort.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Tank on April 04, 2018, 08:04:27 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 04, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Honestly hermes, I probably couldn't afford the knockoff. I do need a better chair though. Maybe I'll come across one in a junk store for cheap!

ETA: Hole E Chit! That's a six thousand dollar chair. You certainly have refined tastes.
And no children! LOL

Tank, that brings us to a part of my life I have not revealed so far at HAF. I have been debating with myself whether or not to reveal that I was married before. I have a wonderful daughter and an ex wife who is now unbelievably close to me - almost like the sister I never had. Perhaps one day I will tell more.
I apologise for my assumption!
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 04, 2018, 08:05:05 PM
QuoteHole E Chit!

That's close to the Franglais version: "Ho le chit!" (soft "ch" of course.)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 08:05:22 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 04, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Honestly hermes, I probably couldn't afford the knockoff. I do need a better chair though. Maybe I'll come across one in a junk store for cheap!

ETA: Hole E Chit! That's a six thousand dollar chair. You certainly have refined tastes.
And no children! LOL

Tank, that brings us to a part of my life I have not revealed so far at HAF. I have been debating with myself whether or not to reveal that I was married before. I have a wonderful daughter and an ex wife who is now unbelievably close to me - almost like the sister I never had. Perhaps one day I will tell more.

You've talked about your daughter before. I think it was related to tiling.

I'll say this though, if I ever find myself in Johannesburg please don't invite me to your home. I'd have to refuse for fear of stumbling into an expensive sculpture or tearing the seat on a fine chair with my wallet and be forced into twenty years of indentured servitude to pay the repair!
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 08:11:05 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 08:03:07 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 07:46:59 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Honestly hermes, I probably couldn't afford the knockoff. I do need a better chair though. Maybe I'll come across one in a junk store for cheap!

As I told Dave, you only live once! The price depends on the leather option you choose, but it is around $5000:
http://store.hermanmiller.com/living/lounge-chairs-and-ottomans/eames-lounge-chair-and-ottoman/5667.html?lang=en_US

Do you need a desk chair? I can recommend the Aeron, also from Herman Miller company. I told the dealer I was an architect, so qualified for a discount on my Aeron desk chair.

I need a recliner, really. My hips bother me quite a bit and elevating my legs seems to help. I also like to sleep in a chair. My current recliner is pretty worn out though so I make due on the couch with a pillow fort.

My left hip is also bad, so I've decided to have a replacement next month. I sometimes see recliners when I visit people, but I don't know how good they are. Yes, I see the Eames has gone up in price and the oiled palisander wood option is now more than $7000. Pity, because I think it wil work for you.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dragonia on April 04, 2018, 09:08:15 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 04, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Honestly hermes, I probably couldn't afford the knockoff. I do need a better chair though. Maybe I'll come across one in a junk store for cheap!

ETA: Hole E Chit! That's a six thousand dollar chair. You certainly have refined tastes.
And no children! LOL

Tank, that brings us to a part of my life I have not revealed so far at HAF. I have been debating with myself whether or not to reveal that I was married before. I have a wonderful daughter and an ex wife who is now unbelievably close to me - almost like the sister I never had. Perhaps one day I will tell more.
Hermes, I'm not shocked that you've been married and had a child, but I have so many more questions, but for now, I won't pry. I'm glad your ex-wife is close to you.
And just for the record, if I was ever in Johannesburg,  I would totally come visit your place! I imagine it to be enchanting and inspiring and elegant.  And I'd like to sit in your fancy chair  ;D
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Davin on April 04, 2018, 09:15:27 PM
Quote from: No one on April 04, 2018, 10:12:32 AM
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/1/19/Kaley-kaley-cuoco-ass.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/320?cb=20130916201639 (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/1/19/Kaley-kaley-cuoco-ass.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/320?cb=20130916201639)

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPRcZNugwGuIpyYlOLJn_O2qC42Zqt4UeuCSmTeFQZunBW4AR-mw (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPRcZNugwGuIpyYlOLJn_O2qC42Zqt4UeuCSmTeFQZunBW4AR-mw)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEthG2KCQAE3ivh.jpg (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEthG2KCQAE3ivh.jpg)

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-h8UPx3Cf1q8/WIoyeSb2feI/AAAAAAAAAjk/Nd4SHawODiMSg6m4NOfNnNNxMcxrP-K-gCLcB/s1600/2017-Dodge-Charger-Review-640x452.jpg (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-h8UPx3Cf1q8/WIoyeSb2feI/AAAAAAAAAjk/Nd4SHawODiMSg6m4NOfNnNNxMcxrP-K-gCLcB/s1600/2017-Dodge-Charger-Review-640x452.jpg)

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwdaBI2MHwcwuFtohf92tQkbvQe7_VMqhYH28FlNybD2uahgA_ (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwdaBI2MHwcwuFtohf92tQkbvQe7_VMqhYH28FlNybD2uahgA_)
I'm guessing that the "objects" of desire in those first three are the clothes?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Magdalena on April 04, 2018, 09:25:01 PM
Quote from: Davin on April 04, 2018, 09:15:27 PM
Quote from: No one on April 04, 2018, 10:12:32 AM
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/1/19/Kaley-kaley-cuoco-ass.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/320?cb=20130916201639 (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/1/19/Kaley-kaley-cuoco-ass.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/320?cb=20130916201639)

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPRcZNugwGuIpyYlOLJn_O2qC42Zqt4UeuCSmTeFQZunBW4AR-mw (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPRcZNugwGuIpyYlOLJn_O2qC42Zqt4UeuCSmTeFQZunBW4AR-mw)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEthG2KCQAE3ivh.jpg (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEthG2KCQAE3ivh.jpg)

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-h8UPx3Cf1q8/WIoyeSb2feI/AAAAAAAAAjk/Nd4SHawODiMSg6m4NOfNnNNxMcxrP-K-gCLcB/s1600/2017-Dodge-Charger-Review-640x452.jpg (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-h8UPx3Cf1q8/WIoyeSb2feI/AAAAAAAAAjk/Nd4SHawODiMSg6m4NOfNnNNxMcxrP-K-gCLcB/s1600/2017-Dodge-Charger-Review-640x452.jpg)

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwdaBI2MHwcwuFtohf92tQkbvQe7_VMqhYH28FlNybD2uahgA_ (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwdaBI2MHwcwuFtohf92tQkbvQe7_VMqhYH28FlNybD2uahgA_)
I'm guessing that the "objects" of desire in those first three are the clothes?
Yes, maybe he's into really short shorts and spandex. :notsure:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Magdalena on April 04, 2018, 09:28:45 PM
Maybe animal rights activists will hate me for this... :couchhide:

The masculine and feminine side of my brain talk to each other...
(https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/i_want_one_iron_man.gif)
...Whenever I see these:
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Davin on April 04, 2018, 09:34:50 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 04, 2018, 09:28:45 PM
Maybe animal rights activists will hate me for this... :couchhide:

The masculine and feminine side of my brain talk to each other...
(https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/i_want_one_iron_man.gif)
...Whenever I see these:
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

Would robot fish work?
[gifv]https://i.imgur.com/foAjXRT.gifv[/gifv]
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Magdalena on April 04, 2018, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: Davin on April 04, 2018, 09:34:50 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 04, 2018, 09:28:45 PM
Maybe animal rights activists will hate me for this... :couchhide:

The masculine and feminine side of my brain talk to each other...
(https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/i_want_one_iron_man.gif)
...Whenever I see these:
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

Would robot fish work?
[gifv]https://i.imgur.com/foAjXRT.gifv[/gifv]
:yes!:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Asmodean on April 04, 2018, 10:03:28 PM
Quote from: Davin on April 04, 2018, 09:15:27 PM
I'm guessing that the "objects" of desire in those first three are the clothes?
Some people say, "subjects act. Objects are acted upon." By that logic, it may well be them boobs and butts, upon which the clothes um... Act.  :grin:

oO(Are body parts technically objects? Like, genuinely. Are they? I don't think I've heard a serious argument either way)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 04:53:58 AM
Quote from: Dragonia on April 04, 2018, 09:08:15 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 04, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Honestly hermes, I probably couldn't afford the knockoff. I do need a better chair though. Maybe I'll come across one in a junk store for cheap!

ETA: Hole E Chit! That's a six thousand dollar chair. You certainly have refined tastes.
And no children! LOL

Tank, that brings us to a part of my life I have not revealed so far at HAF. I have been debating with myself whether or not to reveal that I was married before. I have a wonderful daughter and an ex wife who is now unbelievably close to me - almost like the sister I never had. Perhaps one day I will tell more.
Hermes, I'm not shocked that you've been married and had a child, but I have so many more questions, but for now, I won't pry. I'm glad your ex-wife is close to you.
And just for the record, if I was ever in Johannesburg,  I would totally come visit your place! I imagine it to be enchanting and inspiring and elegant.  And I'd like to sit in your fancy chair  ;D

Dear Dragonia, thank you so much for your message. Not to sound too dramatic, but I could not see to type this for a few minutes - I was literally blinded by tears. Perhaps under this cold materialistic exterior there is a heart somewhere. Please feel free to ask anything you want to, because the only reason I've kept quiet about this was to have a less complicated persona at HAF. Perhaps it is good I came out now, because I am really quite a straightforward person. I just happen to like nice things and everything I have and do is for me to enjoy and not to show off to other people, so I hope I have not made the wrong impression in this thread.

Believe me, you would be very welcome to visit and drink some of the wines from my ex's cellar. She is a connoisseur and very generously shares her collection with me.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 05:20:51 AM
Quote from: Tank on April 04, 2018, 08:04:27 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 04, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Honestly hermes, I probably couldn't afford the knockoff. I do need a better chair though. Maybe I'll come across one in a junk store for cheap!

ETA: Hole E Chit! That's a six thousand dollar chair. You certainly have refined tastes.
And no children! LOL

Tank, that brings us to a part of my life I have not revealed so far at HAF. I have been debating with myself whether or not to reveal that I was married before. I have a wonderful daughter and an ex wife who is now unbelievably close to me - almost like the sister I never had. Perhaps one day I will tell more.
I apologise for my assumption!

Thanks, Tank, but but you have nothing to apologise for. I chose not to say anything about that before, and you naturally assumed that I had never married or had children. I went against my true nature when I met my ex, because of a fantastically good intellectual match. She always says that I am the only man who never felt threatened by her.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 05:37:06 AM
On a lighter note, here is a very sculptural object by Philippe Starck, manufactured by Alessi.

(https://i.imgur.com/KgClnW5.jpg)

I display it as a small sculpture, but it is also a functional object.
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Magdalena on April 05, 2018, 05:38:00 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 04:53:58 AM
Quote from: Dragonia on April 04, 2018, 09:08:15 PM
Hermes, I'm not shocked that you've been married and had a child, but I have so many more questions, but for now, I won't pry. I'm glad your ex-wife is close to you.
And just for the record, if I was ever in Johannesburg,  I would totally come visit your place! I imagine it to be enchanting and inspiring and elegant.  And I'd like to sit in your fancy chair  ;D

Dear Dragonia, thank you so much for your message. Not to sound too dramatic, but I could not see to type this for a few minutes - I was literally blinded by tears. Perhaps under this cold materialistic exterior there is a heart somewhere. Please feel free to ask anything you want to, because the only reason I've kept quiet about this was to have a less complicated persona at HAF. Perhaps it is good I came out now, because I am really quite a straightforward person. I just happen to like nice things and everything I have and do is for me to enjoy and not to show off to other people, so I hope I have not made the wrong impression in this thread.

Believe me, you would be very welcome to visit and drink some of the wines from my ex's cellar. She is a connoisseur and very generously shares her collection with me.
You two are beautiful and genuinely happy atheists.  :tellmemore:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 05:41:18 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 05, 2018, 05:38:00 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 04:53:58 AM
Quote from: Dragonia on April 04, 2018, 09:08:15 PM
Hermes, I'm not shocked that you've been married and had a child, but I have so many more questions, but for now, I won't pry. I'm glad your ex-wife is close to you.
And just for the record, if I was ever in Johannesburg,  I would totally come visit your place! I imagine it to be enchanting and inspiring and elegant.  And I'd like to sit in your fancy chair  ;D

Dear Dragonia, thank you so much for your message. Not to sound too dramatic, but I could not see to type this for a few minutes - I was literally blinded by tears. Perhaps under this cold materialistic exterior there is a heart somewhere. Please feel free to ask anything you want to, because the only reason I've kept quiet about this was to have a less complicated persona at HAF. Perhaps it is good I came out now, because I am really quite a straightforward person. I just happen to like nice things and everything I have and do is for me to enjoy and not to show off to other people, so I hope I have not made the wrong impression in this thread.

Believe me, you would be very welcome to visit and drink some of the wines from my ex's cellar. She is a connoisseur and very generously shares her collection with me.
You two are beautiful and genuinely happy atheists.  :tellmemore:

:boaterhat: :love:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Asmodean on April 05, 2018, 08:30:14 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 05:37:06 AM
On a lighter note, here is a very sculptural object by Philippe Starck, manufactured by Alessi.
I know where that bubbly end goes!  :o











...An ORANGE, you perverts, you!  >:(










...Not THAT orange! Stop it. You STOP it, I tell you! *prudish emoticon*
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Magdalena on April 05, 2018, 08:44:44 AM
^^^
:picard facepalm:

:lol:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 09:45:05 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 05, 2018, 08:30:14 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 05:37:06 AM
On a lighter note, here is a very sculptural object by Philippe Starck, manufactured by Alessi.
I know where that bubbly end goes!  :o

We'll just have to take your word for it! Is nothing sacred?
:snicker:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Asmodean on April 05, 2018, 10:04:12 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 09:45:05 AM
We'll just have to take your word for it! Is nothing sacred?
:snicker:
Sacred Gray Oranges are sacred. By definition, too - the BEST kind of Sacred.  >:( Because The LORD! And The Asmo! Who IS the LORD!  >:(

*biblethump emoticon* oO(Do we have one of those, by the way... *check* ...Doesn't seem so)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 05, 2018, 11:21:53 AM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 04, 2018, 03:52:06 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 04, 2018, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 04, 2018, 02:37:19 PM
How are you sinners ever going to get to heaven, burdened as you are with all this shit?
Mine has wheels and an engine... Duuh!  ;)

Hermes will be OK too, I think. We can race, have an accident... Go through the Gates™ in a rolling fireball of total automotive carnage.

Ye, I suppose No one could fit his packages in his ride too.

I'll make the salmon mouse, where is my recipe?
Was it a teaspoon or a tablespoon of botulitim?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 05, 2018, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 04:53:58 AMI just happen to like nice things and everything I have and do is for me to enjoy and not to show off to other people, so I hope I have not made the wrong impression in this thread.



No wrong impression at all. There's nothing wrong with laying down five grand for a chair you like or art you appreciate. Hell, I'd do it myself if I could. We all like nice things and I've enjoyed seeing your stuff. At least you buy what you like and csn get use of. I know people who spend hundreds on a watch as a fashion accessory and can't read a dial clock. Then need to bump five dollars for smokes...
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 03:03:20 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 05, 2018, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 04:53:58 AMI just happen to like nice things and everything I have and do is for me to enjoy and not to show off to other people, so I hope I have not made the wrong impression in this thread.



No wrong impression at all. There's nothing wrong with laying down five grand for a chair you like or art you appreciate. Hell, I'd do it myself if I could. We all like nice things and I've enjoyed seeing your stuff. At least you buy what you like and csn get use of. I know people who spend hundreds on a watch as a fashion accessory and can't read a dial clock. Then need to bump five dollars for smokes...

Thanks, I appreciate that. I really don't see myself as extravagant at all. For example, I don't spend too much on clothes and usually dress the way you see me in the photo I posted yesterday next to my Hermes car - I am usually just a jeans and T-shirt guy. The one thing I don't like to buy is cheap shoes, because they can affect one's health. But then I don't wear Louis Vuitton shoes; Doc Martens are quite good enough for me. I also don't smoke and almost never buy alcohol. I've worn the same Tag watch for16 years and don't feel the need to replace it.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 05, 2018, 05:34:16 PM
Great idea for a thread!  :bigspecs: I'll go through it later but this caught my eye:

Quote from: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 05:37:06 AM
On a lighter note, here is a very sculptural object by Philippe Starck, manufactured by Alessi.

(https://i.imgur.com/KgClnW5.jpg)

I display it as a small sculpture, but it is also a functional object.
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


When I look at that I'm reminded of a type of virus docking on a new host cell:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/55/55/0e/55550e9df8b60446f274adbe2749c7dd.jpg)

This is how they're commonly drawn:

(https://www.kullabs.com/uploads/T2phage.gif)

:deadpan: Yeah...
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 06:01:19 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 05, 2018, 05:34:16 PM
Great idea for a thread!  :bigspecs: I'll go through it later but this caught my eye:
When I look at that I'm reminded of a type of virus docking on a new host cell:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/55/55/0e/55550e9df8b60446f274adbe2749c7dd.jpg)

This is how they're commonly drawn:

(https://www.kullabs.com/uploads/T2phage.gif)

:deadpan: Yeah...

I see what you mean. A lot of abstract art causes these associations.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Davin on April 05, 2018, 06:32:53 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/KdoWpGS.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 05, 2018, 06:33:35 PM
Hermes, you seem to have opened a little wellspring of wide ranging aestheticism here!

Wide rangjng because that expensive painting may give no more pleasure than a child's first attempt to depict their world on paper,  that pebble from  the beach can be as pleasing to the touch as the finest silk, that efficient and well finished tool shares properties with a bronze art piece. They share the same aesthetic value.

In a documentary about an artist/sculptor, whose name I cannot recall, they interviewed him in his studio. On one side was just shelves with humdreds of miscellaneous objects, from natural objects through bottle caps, dolls and tools to fine art items. He had simply collected things whose properties gave him pleasure - without regard to his need or the value of that item in its specific function or purpose.

Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 07:36:34 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 05, 2018, 06:33:35 PM
Hermes, you seem to have opened a little wellspring of wide ranging aestheticism here!

Wide rangjng because that expensive painting may give no more pleasure than a child's first attempt to depict their world on paper,  that pebble from  the beach can be as pleasing to the touch as the finest silk, that efficient and well finished tool shares properties with a bronze art piece. They share the same aesthetic value.

In a documentary about an artist/sculptor, whose name I cannot recall, they interviewed him in his studio. On one side was just shelves with humdreds of miscellaneous objects, from natural objects through bottle caps, dolls and tools to fine art items. He had simply collected things whose properties gave him pleasure - without regard to his need or the value of that item in its specific function or purpose.

There aren't enough hours in a day to explore everything.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 07:38:15 PM
Me biting the leg of a spider by Louise Bourgeois.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZtD7ll2.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 05, 2018, 07:56:47 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 05, 2018, 07:36:34 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 05, 2018, 06:33:35 PM
Hermes, you seem to have opened a little wellspring of wide ranging aestheticism here!

Wide rangjng because that expensive painting may give no more pleasure than a child's first attempt to depict their world on paper,  that pebble from  the beach can be as pleasing to the touch as the finest silk, that efficient and well finished tool shares properties with a bronze art piece. They share the same aesthetic value.

In a documentary about an artist/sculptor, whose name I cannot recall, they interviewed him in his studio. On one side was just shelves with humdreds of miscellaneous objects, from natural objects through bottle caps, dolls and tools to fine art items. He had simply collected things whose properties gave him pleasure - without regard to his need or the value of that item in its specific function or purpose.

There aren't enough hours in a day to explore everything.

Or days in a life . . .
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: joeactor on April 05, 2018, 08:49:51 PM
Well, this thread grew fast!

I've got an Aeron office chair - they're very good.

And my wife's got some other Herman Miller items. Some I like, some are WTF? (esp. the pricing)

... always wanted that juicer.

I built a Lego version of Falling Waters, but I'd need a shrink ray to live in it.

So, where can I get a working Rocket Pack?
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.liveauctiongroup.net%2Fi%2F26347%2F23856079_1.jpg&hash=8375092dcc064ffc8bed499af050f7eaa89b4f77)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 06, 2018, 04:43:19 AM
Quote from: joeactor on April 05, 2018, 08:49:51 PM
Well, this thread grew fast!

I've got an Aeron office chair - they're very good.

And my wife's got some other Herman Miller items. Some I like, some are WTF? (esp. the pricing)

... always wanted that juicer.

I built a Lego version of Falling Waters, but I'd need a shrink ray to live in it.

So, where can I get a working Rocket Pack?
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.liveauctiongroup.net%2Fi%2F26347%2F23856079_1.jpg&hash=8375092dcc064ffc8bed499af050f7eaa89b4f77)

Wow, kindred spirits! Which other Herman Miller items do you guys have?  All my other Herman Miller stuff is Eames furniture, except for the office area..

I am a qualified Herman Miller Action Office installer and used to do that as a hobby over weekends to earn some pocket money. I had a team of 6 guys assisting me and some months I made more from that than my full time job as a chemist. My office at home is fully Action Office. At the moment it is a bit untidy with two projects I'm working on, but will post a photo when things have settled.

I got the juicer as a birthday present from an ex lover (after I was divorced).

That rocket pack looks like an Eduardo Paolozzi sculpture to me.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/art-reviews/10177013/Eduardo-Paolozzi-at-Pallant-House.html
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 06, 2018, 01:25:47 PM
I wonder how much longer I can live without owning one of Miguel Berrocal's wonderful puzzle sculptures. I had the opportunity to buy one in 1971, but stupidly did not. Isn't it true that on the whole one regrets the things one did not do more than the things one did? Of course, I am not talking about murder and other terrible acts.

This is Berrocal's Romeo and Juliet.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Buddy on April 06, 2018, 01:58:42 PM
I want to update my wardrobe so bad. I have a few pieces to make it through the work week but I really want to have a bit more variety. Plus almost all of my tops are sweaters and that will not work if summer ever decides to show up.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 06, 2018, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: Buddy on April 06, 2018, 01:58:42 PM
I want to update my wardrobe so bad. I have a few pieces to make it through the work week but I really want to have a bit more variety. Plus almost all of my tops are sweaters and that will not work if summer ever decides to show up.

What kind of style do you like?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 06, 2018, 02:35:25 PM
Quote from: Buddy on April 06, 2018, 01:58:42 PM
I want to update my wardrobe so bad. I have a few pieces to make it through the work week but I really want to have a bit more variety. Plus almost all of my tops are sweaters and that will not work if summer ever decides to show up.

These may be good starting points.
http://visual-therapy.com/blog/style-type-quiz/

https://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school/story.php?title=whats-your-personal-fashion-style

Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Buddy on April 06, 2018, 02:38:03 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 06, 2018, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: Buddy on April 06, 2018, 01:58:42 PM
I want to update my wardrobe so bad. I have a few pieces to make it through the work week but I really want to have a bit more variety. Plus almost all of my tops are sweaters and that will not work if summer ever decides to show up.

What kind of style do you like?

Honestly, I don't really know how to describe it. It's kind of a mix of New England prep, business casual, and just a little vintage. It's weird.

I know what I like, it's just that bills get priority lol
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: joeactor on April 06, 2018, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 06, 2018, 04:43:19 AM
Quote from: joeactor on April 05, 2018, 08:49:51 PM
Well, this thread grew fast!

I've got an Aeron office chair - they're very good.

And my wife's got some other Herman Miller items. Some I like, some are WTF? (esp. the pricing)

... always wanted that juicer.

I built a Lego version of Falling Waters, but I'd need a shrink ray to live in it.

So, where can I get a working Rocket Pack?
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.liveauctiongroup.net%2Fi%2F26347%2F23856079_1.jpg&hash=8375092dcc064ffc8bed499af050f7eaa89b4f77)

Wow, kindred spirits! Which other Herman Miller items do you guys have?  All my other Herman Miller stuff is Eames furniture, except for the office area..

I am a qualified Herman Miller Action Office installer and used to do that as a hobby over weekends to earn some pocket money. I had a team of 6 guys assisting me and some months I made more from that than my full time job as a chemist. My office at home is fully Action Office. At the moment it is a bit untidy with two projects I'm working on, but will post a photo when things have settled.

I got the juicer as a birthday present from an ex lover (after I was divorced).

That rocket pack looks like an Eduardo Paolozzi sculpture to me.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/art-reviews/10177013/Eduardo-Paolozzi-at-Pallant-House.html

We've got an Eames bookcase:
(https://a.1stdibscdn.com/archivesE/upload/9541/38_14/eames_stor01/eames_stor01_l.jpeg)

The most fascinating thing about it is that it assembles like tinker toys. I can imagine it being very configurable. The irony is that they only sell it like this... you can't buy bits and pieces to assemble one.

Love the Romeo and Juliet sculpture. Very creative!
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 06, 2018, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: joeactor on April 06, 2018, 04:56:10 PM
We've got an Eames bookcase:
(https://a.1stdibscdn.com/archivesE/upload/9541/38_14/eames_stor01/eames_stor01_l.jpeg)

That Eames Storage Unit is very desirable and you are lucky to have it. Herman Miller have reissued it after many years. Keep an eye open for ones produced in the early 1950s at garage sales, because they can fetch around 20000 dollars on auction. The original plywood screens also fetch very high prices, so it's worth it to hunt for them.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 06, 2018, 11:04:04 PM
Hermes, each time I go to a store called Tok&Stok I am reminded of you because a lot of designers, mostly up-and-coming, sell their furniture there.  Some are interesting, others a little wacky.  :P

I got this on a discount for my books, which I like very much:

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvitrine.tokstok.com.br%2Fpnv%2F570%2Fg%2Fginec87187_vm1.jpg&hash=1f01a22e470d9fb4d11e4024f3bc07dcb4c6957a)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 07, 2018, 01:37:46 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 04:27:01 PM
I want to live here (Frank Lloyd Wright's 1935 Fallingwater house).
(https://i.imgur.com/SAfl01F.jpg)

Wow. :love:

(That looks minecraftable! :grin:)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 07, 2018, 05:09:52 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 06, 2018, 11:04:04 PM
Hermes, each time I go to a store called Tok&Stok I am reminded of you because a lot of designers, mostly up-and-coming, sell their furniture there.  Some are interesting, others a little wacky.  :P

I got this on a discount for my books, which I like very much:

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvitrine.tokstok.com.br%2Fpnv%2F570%2Fg%2Fginec87187_vm1.jpg&hash=1f01a22e470d9fb4d11e4024f3bc07dcb4c6957a)

I am flattered that you think of me sometimes! That shelf unit is very attractive. I am a white and black furniture person, but that colour really works well.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 07, 2018, 08:30:49 AM
Savoy vase by Finnish architect Alvar Aalto made by Iitala.
(https://i.imgur.com/Ml4Hkzr.jpg)

Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Siz on April 07, 2018, 12:20:32 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 07, 2018, 08:30:49 AM
Savoy vase by Finnish architect Alvar Aalto made by Iitala.
(https://i.imgur.com/Ml4Hkzr.jpg)



My wife buys this crap all the time. So, I'm proud to be a partial owner of this ridiculous vase and the (Actually quite decent) lemon juicer.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 07, 2018, 12:41:31 PM
Quote from: Siz on April 07, 2018, 12:20:32 PM
My wife buys this crap all the time. So, I'm proud to be a partial owner of this ridiculous vase and the (Actually quite decent) lemon juicer.

:lol:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 07, 2018, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Siz on April 07, 2018, 12:20:32 PM
... and the (Actually quite decent) lemon juicer.

You have a juicer that is lemon specific?
What would happen if you put a lime in't?
Would doing oranges void the warranty?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 07, 2018, 03:47:32 PM
(https://cdn.homedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Tv-shelving-units.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 07, 2018, 04:26:51 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 07, 2018, 03:47:32 PM
(https://cdn.homedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Tv-shelving-units.jpg)

Nice. Is that your listening corner?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 07, 2018, 04:38:55 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 07, 2018, 04:26:51 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 07, 2018, 03:47:32 PM
(https://cdn.homedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Tv-shelving-units.jpg)

Nice. Is that your listening corner?

No, it's a similcrum of my 1980s listening corner.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 07, 2018, 09:01:31 PM
It's nice but the question that needs to be asked is: how many megabytes of music can you fit into one of those huge discs? I'm assuming those are vintage discs, they are too stiff to be magazines...:notsure:

Does it come in HD? :popcorn:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 08, 2018, 05:20:39 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 07, 2018, 09:01:31 PM
It's nice but the question that needs to be asked is: how many megabytes of music can you fit into one of those huge discs? I'm assuming those are vintage discs, they are too stiff to be magazines...:notsure:

Does it come in HD? :popcorn:

The music on an LP is in analog form. If one converts the whole LP into a computer file, the size depends on the format. An uncompressed WAV file would be roughly 700MB. I always use lossless FLAC format files at home, and they are about 300MB or a bit smaller for all the music on an LP. Lower quality MP3 files (I use them in my car) are much smaller and their sizes depend on the data rate, which determines the quality of reproduction.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bluenose on April 08, 2018, 07:21:28 AM
Want, want, want...

But,

Can't afford...  :( :( :(



Hawker Sea Fury, the fastest production single piston-engined aircraft ever built.

Simply a thing of beauty.  Listen to the roar of the mighty Bristol Centaurus engine - gotta love the sound of round...
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Tom62 on April 08, 2018, 08:35:04 AM
I recently saw this car in the Friedrichshafen Zeppelin museum and fell in love with it

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyautoworld.com%2Fmercedes%2Fcars%2Fmaybach%2Fmaybach-1930-ds8%2FMaybach_Zeppelin06_medium.jpg&hash=c69bd51c3b37f35ce98bfc3856fe109cfdba47c1)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 08, 2018, 09:30:39 AM
Quote from: Bluenose on April 08, 2018, 07:21:28 AM
Want, want, want...

But,

Can't afford...  :( :( :(



Hawker Sea Fury, the fastest production single piston-engined aircraft ever built.

Simply a thing of beauty.  Listen to the roar of the mighty Bristol Centaurus engine - gotta love the sound of round...

I was walking through Gloucester on Thursday when I heard a very distinctive sound. Looking up I saw a Hawker Hurricane way up. Looking round I could see others of a similar vintage to me, men and women, also looking up. There was the sound of another Merlin engine but, in our concrete canyon, I could not see what was probably a Spitfire.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 08, 2018, 10:15:35 AM
Quote from: Tom62 on April 08, 2018, 08:35:04 AM
I recently saw this car in the Friedrichshafen Zeppelin museum and fell in love with it

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyautoworld.com%2Fmercedes%2Fcars%2Fmaybach%2Fmaybach-1930-ds8%2FMaybach_Zeppelin06_medium.jpg&hash=c69bd51c3b37f35ce98bfc3856fe109cfdba47c1)

That is so elegant. I can't imagine driving it wearing my usual clothes, though.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:04:38 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on April 08, 2018, 08:35:04 AM
I recently saw this car in the Friedrichshafen Zeppelin museum and fell in love with it

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyautoworld.com%2Fmercedes%2Fcars%2Fmaybach%2Fmaybach-1930-ds8%2FMaybach_Zeppelin06_medium.jpg&hash=c69bd51c3b37f35ce98bfc3856fe109cfdba47c1)

Oh...no. :grin: You would probably have to haul an entire gas station behind you in order to drive that. Just in case you get an empty tank after a few kms...
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 04, 2018, 04:27:01 PM
I want to live here (Frank Lloyd Wright's 1935 Fallingwater house).
(https://i.imgur.com/SAfl01F.jpg)
Heard that!    That place is beautiful.   :love:


This thing stands as my greatest desire:
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aeroyacht.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F03%2Fout-7.jpg&hash=23d3c11164a56872494abdb141d90cd3afbb7604)
-Aeroyacht 121
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 02:21:00 PM
This thing stands as my greatest desire:
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aeroyacht.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F03%2Fout-7.jpg&hash=23d3c11164a56872494abdb141d90cd3afbb7604)
-Aeroyacht 121

:tellmemore:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 08, 2018, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 02:21:00 PM
This thing stands as my greatest desire:
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aeroyacht.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F03%2Fout-7.jpg&hash=23d3c11164a56872494abdb141d90cd3afbb7604)
-Aeroyacht 121

:tellmemore:

You gonna sail into the sunset or the sunrise, Silver?

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:37:43 PM
I would very much like to have a pet dog again, most likely another German Shepherd.  However, I don't have an adequate house or time to look after it. :sad sigh:

So...

I would like to have a house but I don't feel I'm going to settle down here in this city. I definitely don't intend to stay here for the rest of my life.

So probably no dog. :(

Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 08, 2018, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 02:21:00 PM
This thing stands as my greatest desire:
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aeroyacht.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F03%2Fout-7.jpg&hash=23d3c11164a56872494abdb141d90cd3afbb7604)
-Aeroyacht 121

:tellmemore:

You gonna sail into the sunset or the sunrise, Silver?

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


I would go anywhere but down, hopefully!

:notsure: Are you talking about the Cape of Good Hope?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 08, 2018, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 02:21:00 PM
This thing stands as my greatest desire:
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aeroyacht.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F03%2Fout-7.jpg&hash=23d3c11164a56872494abdb141d90cd3afbb7604)
-Aeroyacht 121

:tellmemore:

You gonna sail into the sunset or the sunrise, Silver?

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


I would go anywhere but down, hopefully!

:notsure: Are you talking about the Cape of Good Hope?

You and I both!!!
Quote from: Rift Zone on February 03, 2018, 04:23:37 AM
When I'm not geek'n out on something I like to spend time in the outdoors, hiking, biking, kayaking, whatever.   Some of those trips have been thousands of miles long.   I'm a fairly well accomplished adventure trekker, I'm proud to say. 
Intimately mingling with mother nature is nothing new to me; I'm just looking at upgrading my gear.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 08, 2018, 02:50:02 PM
Quote:notsure: Are you talking about the Cape of Good Hope?

Thinking of Cape Horn actually. You need to head West to sail into the sunset and you are on the wrong side?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:51:19 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on February 03, 2018, 04:23:37 AM
Quote
When I'm not geek'n out on something I like to spend time in the outdoors, hiking, biking, kayaking, whatever.   Some of those trips have been thousands of miles long.   I'm a fairly well accomplished adventure trekker, I'm proud to say. 
Intimately mingling with mother nature is nothing new to me; I'm just looking at upgrading my gear.

I used to spend a lot more time outdoors. When I was growing up we would camp a lot, which was always a lot of fun. It ended when I moved to the city, though...
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:54:07 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 08, 2018, 02:50:02 PM
Quote:notsure: Are you talking about the Cape of Good Hope?

Thinking of Cape Horn actually. You need to head West to sail into the sunset and you are on the wrong side?

Ah, ok. I had misunderstood what you had written.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 08, 2018, 02:54:20 PM
I'm far too frightened of being eaten to go sailing on a boat that small. Nowhere for the lifeboats to be stowed away.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:56:57 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 08, 2018, 02:54:20 PM
I'm far too frightened of being eaten to go sailing on a boat that small. Nowhere for the lifeboats to be stowed away.

Where's your sense of adventure? :P

(As long as it isn't me at the helm...)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 08, 2018, 02:58:29 PM
I seem to have misplaced my sense of adventure... let me know if you come across it, if you don't mind.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 08, 2018, 03:01:03 PM
I am very lucky in that I own some of the things I've posted, but what I still hope to own one day is a ceramic horse from the Tang dynasty. This is beautiful example. I also have a weakness for ones from the Han dynasty.
(https://i.imgur.com/usQKpwv.jpg)

Hint: I have a birthday coming up, in case you HAF guys are wondering what to get me.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 08, 2018, 03:04:04 PM
Care to swap a ceramic horse for a fancy chair hermes?!
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 03:04:18 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 08, 2018, 02:58:29 PM
I seem to have misplaced my sense of adventure... let me know if you come across it, if you don't mind.

:notsure: I think it's the kind of thing that finds you, and can take the form of a friend with whom you lose your good judgement. ;)

I will stop there before I start to sound too cliché :P
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 03:06:03 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 08, 2018, 03:01:03 PM
I am very lucky in that I own some of the things I've posted, but what I still hope to own one day is a ceramic horse from the Tang dynasty. This is beautiful example. I also have a weakness for ones from the Han dynasty.
(https://i.imgur.com/usQKpwv.jpg)

Hint: I have a birthday coming up, in case you HAF guys are wondering what to get me.

I wouldn't mind having that either. :tellmemore:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 03:08:22 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:51:19 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on February 03, 2018, 04:23:37 AM
Quote
When I'm not geek'n out on something I like to spend time in the outdoors, hiking, biking, kayaking, whatever.   Some of those trips have been thousands of miles long.   I'm a fairly well accomplished adventure trekker, I'm proud to say. 
Intimately mingling with mother nature is nothing new to me; I'm just looking at upgrading my gear.

I used to spend a lot more time outdoors. When I was growing up we would camp a lot, which was always a lot of fun. It ended when I moved to the city, though...
I was raised in Silicon Valley,  I started out much the same, with some family camping trips here and there, cub scouts...    As I approached adulthood, however, I ended up going deeper into wilderness and staying longer.   I have literally done the "John Muir" thing: go deep into the Sierra Nevadas for weeks at a time with little more than a backpack, some gear, and some food.   That led to long-distance hiking (like the Appalachian Trail), kayaking trips that spanned many US states at a time, biking the Pacific Coast, twice, and down the eastern seaboard once...    City people aren't necessarily bound to human civilization; they might just have to travel a bit further to get away from it.  ;)

Quote from: jumbojak on April 08, 2018, 02:58:29 PM
I seem to have misplaced my sense of adventure... let me know if you come across it, if you don't mind.
I'll keep a look out for you!   =)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 08, 2018, 03:11:16 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 08, 2018, 03:04:04 PM
Care to swap a ceramic horse for a fancy chair hermes?!

Do you have one to trade?

I forgot to mention that one went for $6 million once, but that is unusual.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 03:13:22 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 03:08:22 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:51:19 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on February 03, 2018, 04:23:37 AM
Quote
When I'm not geek'n out on something I like to spend time in the outdoors, hiking, biking, kayaking, whatever.   Some of those trips have been thousands of miles long.   I'm a fairly well accomplished adventure trekker, I'm proud to say. 
Intimately mingling with mother nature is nothing new to me; I'm just looking at upgrading my gear.

I used to spend a lot more time outdoors. When I was growing up we would camp a lot, which was always a lot of fun. It ended when I moved to the city, though...
I was raised in Silicon Valley,  I started out much the same, with some family camping trips here and there, cub scouts...    As I approached adulthood, however, I ended up going deeper into wilderness and staying longer.   I have literally done the "John Muir" thing: go deep into the Sierra Nevadas for weeks at a time with little more than a backpack, some gear, and some food.   That led to long-distance hiking (like the Appalachian Trail), kayaking trips that spanned many US states at a time, biking the Pacific Coast, twice, and down the eastern seaboard once...    City people aren't necessarily bound to human civilization; they might just have to travel a bit further to get away from it.  ;)

I wish I had your stamina!  :watching:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 08, 2018, 03:16:35 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 08, 2018, 03:11:16 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 08, 2018, 03:04:04 PM
Care to swap a ceramic horse for a fancy chair hermes?!

Do you have one to trade?

At the moment, no. But I'll keep an eye out for you. If I ever do find one it's yours.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 03:16:59 PM
(https://i1.wp.com/obonsaista.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/estilos-de-bonsai-obonsaista.jpg?resize=960%2C638)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 03:57:00 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 03:13:22 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 03:08:22 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:51:19 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on February 03, 2018, 04:23:37 AM
Quote
When I'm not geek'n out on something I like to spend time in the outdoors, hiking, biking, kayaking, whatever.   Some of those trips have been thousands of miles long.   I'm a fairly well accomplished adventure trekker, I'm proud to say. 
Intimately mingling with mother nature is nothing new to me; I'm just looking at upgrading my gear.

I used to spend a lot more time outdoors. When I was growing up we would camp a lot, which was always a lot of fun. It ended when I moved to the city, though...
I was raised in Silicon Valley,  I started out much the same, with some family camping trips here and there, cub scouts...    As I approached adulthood, however, I ended up going deeper into wilderness and staying longer.   I have literally done the "John Muir" thing: go deep into the Sierra Nevadas for weeks at a time with little more than a backpack, some gear, and some food.   That led to long-distance hiking (like the Appalachian Trail), kayaking trips that spanned many US states at a time, biking the Pacific Coast, twice, and down the eastern seaboard once...    City people aren't necessarily bound to human civilization; they might just have to travel a bit further to get away from it.  ;)

I wish I had your stamina!  :watching:
"Longest days":

Hiking: 30.1 miles (48.4 km), on The Appalachian Trail, in smoky mountain national park.

Kayaking: 70+ miles (113+km).  Paddled from Montana on the Missouri River, to St. Louis on the Mississippi...   got kinda ambitious on that last day, getting into St. Louis.  -going downstream, however, so I was kinda cheating.

Biking: 143 miles  (230km).   Biking UP the pacific cost is way harder than biking down it (against brutal headwind the whole way).  By the time I turned inland and headed south a bit I was kicking some serious butt.  -ate 5 full meals that day.

Just do it!   -the human body is good at adapting enroute.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 08, 2018, 04:01:47 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 03:16:59 PM
(https://i1.wp.com/obonsaista.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/estilos-de-bonsai-obonsaista.jpg?resize=960%2C638)

That will look good next to a horse. I would too scared to get one though - aren't they difficult to maintain?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dragonia on April 08, 2018, 04:13:11 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 03:57:00 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 03:13:22 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 03:08:22 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:51:19 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on February 03, 2018, 04:23:37 AM
Quote
When I'm not geek'n out on something I like to spend time in the outdoors, hiking, biking, kayaking, whatever.   Some of those trips have been thousands of miles long.   I'm a fairly well accomplished adventure trekker, I'm proud to say. 
Intimately mingling with mother nature is nothing new to me; I'm just looking at upgrading my gear.

I used to spend a lot more time outdoors. When I was growing up we would camp a lot, which was always a lot of fun. It ended when I moved to the city, though...
I was raised in Silicon Valley,  I started out much the same, with some family camping trips here and there, cub scouts...    As I approached adulthood, however, I ended up going deeper into wilderness and staying longer.   I have literally done the "John Muir" thing: go deep into the Sierra Nevadas for weeks at a time with little more than a backpack, some gear, and some food.   That led to long-distance hiking (like the Appalachian Trail), kayaking trips that spanned many US states at a time, biking the Pacific Coast, twice, and down the eastern seaboard once...    City people aren't necessarily bound to human civilization; they might just have to travel a bit further to get away from it.  ;)

I wish I had your stamina!  :watching:
"Longest days":

Hiking: 30.1 miles (48.4 km), on The Appalachian Trail, in smoky mountain national park.

Kayaking: 70+ miles (113+km).  Paddled from Montana on the Missouri River, to St. Louis on the Mississippi...   got kinda ambitious on that last day, getting into St. Louis.  -going downstream, however, so I was kinda cheating.

Biking: 143 miles  (230km).   Biking UP the pacific cost is way harder than biking down it (against brutal headwind the whole way).  By the time I turned inland and headed south a bit I was kicking some serious butt.  -ate 5 full meals that day.

Just do it!   -the human body is good at adapting enroute.

You are awesome... I've always wanted to do longer backpacking trips, but work has always gotten in the way and my longer vacations have always involved other activities.
My longest backpacking trips were all in Alaska, pre-children.
Crow Creek Pass, Resurrection Trail, Denali, Wrangell Mountains.

But I am a dirt girl. I would rather do anything in the woods than in the water. And to me, sailing is a punishment. I just hate it  :sshocked:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Tom62 on April 08, 2018, 04:22:42 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:04:38 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on April 08, 2018, 08:35:04 AM
I recently saw this car in the Friedrichshafen Zeppelin museum and fell in love with it

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyautoworld.com%2Fmercedes%2Fcars%2Fmaybach%2Fmaybach-1930-ds8%2FMaybach_Zeppelin06_medium.jpg&hash=c69bd51c3b37f35ce98bfc3856fe109cfdba47c1)

Oh...no. :grin: You would probably have to haul an entire gas station behind you in order to drive that. Just in case you get an empty tank after a few kms...

True, the car weighs approx. 3000 Kg and it was one of the most powerful production car in the world at the time (1930). It had an 8 liter V12 engine (a top speed of 171km/h). In 2012, a 1938 DS8 Roadster sold for €1.3 million at auction. If you have that amount of money then you can also afford to haul an entire gas station behind you  ;).
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 04:30:23 PM
Quote from: Dragonia on April 08, 2018, 04:13:11 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 03:57:00 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 03:13:22 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 03:08:22 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:51:19 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on February 03, 2018, 04:23:37 AM
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When I'm not geek'n out on something I like to spend time in the outdoors, hiking, biking, kayaking, whatever.   Some of those trips have been thousands of miles long.   I'm a fairly well accomplished adventure trekker, I'm proud to say. 
Intimately mingling with mother nature is nothing new to me; I'm just looking at upgrading my gear.

I used to spend a lot more time outdoors. When I was growing up we would camp a lot, which was always a lot of fun. It ended when I moved to the city, though...
I was raised in Silicon Valley,  I started out much the same, with some family camping trips here and there, cub scouts...    As I approached adulthood, however, I ended up going deeper into wilderness and staying longer.   I have literally done the "John Muir" thing: go deep into the Sierra Nevadas for weeks at a time with little more than a backpack, some gear, and some food.   That led to long-distance hiking (like the Appalachian Trail), kayaking trips that spanned many US states at a time, biking the Pacific Coast, twice, and down the eastern seaboard once...    City people aren't necessarily bound to human civilization; they might just have to travel a bit further to get away from it.  ;)

I wish I had your stamina!  :watching:
"Longest days":

Hiking: 30.1 miles (48.4 km), on The Appalachian Trail, in smoky mountain national park.

Kayaking: 70+ miles (113+km).  Paddled from Montana on the Missouri River, to St. Louis on the Mississippi...   got kinda ambitious on that last day, getting into St. Louis.  -going downstream, however, so I was kinda cheating.

Biking: 143 miles  (230km).   Biking UP the pacific cost is way harder than biking down it (against brutal headwind the whole way).  By the time I turned inland and headed south a bit I was kicking some serious butt.  -ate 5 full meals that day.

Just do it!   -the human body is good at adapting enroute.

You are awesome...
*glee*   Thanks!  I appreciate that.  =)

Quote from: Dragonia on April 08, 2018, 04:13:11 PM
I've always wanted to do longer backpacking trips, but work has always gotten in the way and my longer vacations have always involved other activities.
My longest backpacking trips were all in Alaska, pre-children.
Crow Creek Pass, Resurrection Trail, Denali, Wrangell Mountains.
Any investment we make in life tends to detract from other options...   I'm very pleased with the path I've taken in life, but it's not all that good for career or family...   The latter being something I never wanted to compromise; however, the future of that remains questionable.   

That's awesome!    I have yet to spend time in Alaska; I hope to follow in your footsteps at some point!   =)

Quote from: Dragonia on April 08, 2018, 04:13:11 PM
But I am a dirt girl. I would rather do anything in the woods than in the water. And to me, sailing is a punishment. I just hate it  :sshocked:
Outdoorsy girls are the best kind.   I'm kinda in the same boat as you are; the sea is cool, but the mountains speak to my being much stronger.    I don't plan on getting stuck on some catamaran though...   Aside from some sea kayaks, I fully intend to bring some whitewater gear, mountain bikes, and trekking poles with me.   The Cat will amount to "base camp".
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 04:41:15 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 03:57:00 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 03:13:22 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 03:08:22 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:51:19 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on February 03, 2018, 04:23:37 AM
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When I'm not geek'n out on something I like to spend time in the outdoors, hiking, biking, kayaking, whatever.   Some of those trips have been thousands of miles long.   I'm a fairly well accomplished adventure trekker, I'm proud to say. 
Intimately mingling with mother nature is nothing new to me; I'm just looking at upgrading my gear.

I used to spend a lot more time outdoors. When I was growing up we would camp a lot, which was always a lot of fun. It ended when I moved to the city, though...
I was raised in Silicon Valley,  I started out much the same, with some family camping trips here and there, cub scouts...    As I approached adulthood, however, I ended up going deeper into wilderness and staying longer.   I have literally done the "John Muir" thing: go deep into the Sierra Nevadas for weeks at a time with little more than a backpack, some gear, and some food.   That led to long-distance hiking (like the Appalachian Trail), kayaking trips that spanned many US states at a time, biking the Pacific Coast, twice, and down the eastern seaboard once...    City people aren't necessarily bound to human civilization; they might just have to travel a bit further to get away from it.  ;)

I wish I had your stamina!  :watching:
"Longest days":

Hiking: 30.1 miles (48.4 km), on The Appalachian Trail, in smoky mountain national park.

Kayaking: 70+ miles (113+km).  Paddled from Montana on the Missouri River, to St. Louis on the Mississippi...   got kinda ambitious on that last day, getting into St. Louis.  -going downstream, however, so I was kinda cheating.

Biking: 143 miles  (230km).   Biking UP the pacific cost is way harder than biking down it (against brutal headwind the whole way).  By the time I turned inland and headed south a bit I was kicking some serious butt.  -ate 5 full meals that day.

Just do it!   -the human body is good at adapting enroute.

:P I think I will admire that kind of life from a distance.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 04:43:43 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 08, 2018, 04:01:47 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 03:16:59 PM
(https://i1.wp.com/obonsaista.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/estilos-de-bonsai-obonsaista.jpg?resize=960%2C638)

That will look good next to a horse. I would too scared to get one though - aren't they difficult to maintain?

Yes they are, which is why I don't think I'll buy one. Not a very old one at least, it'll be such a pity if such a thing died under my care.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on April 08, 2018, 04:22:42 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 02:04:38 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on April 08, 2018, 08:35:04 AM
I recently saw this car in the Friedrichshafen Zeppelin museum and fell in love with it

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyautoworld.com%2Fmercedes%2Fcars%2Fmaybach%2Fmaybach-1930-ds8%2FMaybach_Zeppelin06_medium.jpg&hash=c69bd51c3b37f35ce98bfc3856fe109cfdba47c1)

Oh...no. :grin: You would probably have to haul an entire gas station behind you in order to drive that. Just in case you get an empty tank after a few kms...

True, the car weighs approx. 3000 Kg and it was one of the most powerful production car in the world at the time (1930). It had an 8 liter V12 engine (a top speed of 171km/h). In 2012, a 1938 DS8 Roadster sold for €1.3 million at auction. If you have that amount of money then you can also afford to haul an entire gas station behind you  ;).


:snicker:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 04:47:05 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 04:41:15 PM
:P I think I will admire that kind of life from a distance.
Fair amount of wisdom in that...   It can get rough out there.   
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 08:01:55 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 04:47:05 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 04:41:15 PM
:P I think I will admire that kind of life from a distance.
Fair amount of wisdom in that...   It can get rough out there.

Yeah, I don't mind the outdoors or bugs and all that...except for mosquitoes, I absolutely loathe mosquitoes! And anything that crawls out of a sewer like cockroaches...

I'm more of a city-dweller. I love city sights and sounds. A different kind of jungle. ;)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 10:02:34 PM
(https://www.zingashome.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/high-end-home-theater-sound-systems-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 08, 2018, 10:50:32 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 08:01:55 PM
except for mosquitoes, I absolutely loathe mosquitoes!
Heard that...    I usually don't approve of genocide, but i'd make an exception for them.   grrr!
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 09, 2018, 10:09:58 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 08, 2018, 03:01:03 PM
I am very lucky in that I own some of the things I've posted, but what I still hope to own one day is a ceramic horse from the Tang dynasty. This is beautiful example. I also have a weakness for ones from the Han dynasty.
(https://i.imgur.com/usQKpwv.jpg)

Hint: I have a birthday coming up, in case you HAF guys are wondering what to get me.

Geez Hermes, we can do better than that, we won't stinge out getting you a second hand horse.

Here ya go, happy birthday.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81ma0HHCI8L._SY355_.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 09, 2018, 10:09:58 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 08, 2018, 03:01:03 PM
I am very lucky in that I own some of the things I've posted, but what I still hope to own one day is a ceramic horse from the Tang dynasty. This is beautiful example. I also have a weakness for ones from the Han dynasty.
(https://i.imgur.com/usQKpwv.jpg)

Hint: I have a birthday coming up, in case you HAF guys are wondering what to get me.

Geez Hermes, we can do better than that, we won't stinge out getting you a second hand horse.

Here ya go, happy birthday.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81ma0HHCI8L._SY355_.jpg)

Oh thank you, it's much better than a 1000 year old plus second hand horse that you don't know where it's been.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 12:05:42 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Honestly hermes, I probably couldn't afford the knockoff. I do need a better chair though. Maybe I'll come across one in a junk store for cheap!

ETA: Hole E Chit! That's a six thousand dollar chair. You certainly have refined tastes.

A bit late now, but I found this video an how it's made. It kind of makes one understand why it has a high price tag.

Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 09, 2018, 12:31:14 PM
That was really cool.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 12:47:18 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 09, 2018, 12:31:14 PM
That was really cool.

Yes, I agree. I have actually seen them made at the Vitra factory in Germany. Vitra is the authorized manufacturer for Herman Miller in Europe. I see there are other videos like these on Youtube as well.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dragonia on April 09, 2018, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 12:05:42 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 04, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Honestly hermes, I probably couldn't afford the knockoff. I do need a better chair though. Maybe I'll come across one in a junk store for cheap!

ETA: Hole E Chit! That's a six thousand dollar chair. You certainly have refined tastes.

A bit late now, but I found this video an how it's made. It kind of makes one understand why it has a high price tag.



Wow, SOLD!

I think the history and enduring quality of these chairs appeals to me every bit as much as the appearance. I just want to touch that leather...
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 09, 2018, 01:08:40 PM
Yes, nice to see quality. I would love to see the processes used in the first models.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 01:22:17 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 09, 2018, 01:08:40 PM
Yes, nice to see quality. I would love to see the processes used in the first models.

That was one of the very interesting ways that Charles and Ray Eames worked. They did not just draw designs and make pretty models. They actually got their hands dirty and designed the machinery used in the final production step as well.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 09, 2018, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 01:22:17 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 09, 2018, 01:08:40 PM
Yes, nice to see quality. I would love to see the processes used in the first models.

That was one of the very interesting ways that Charles and Ray Eames worked. They did not just draw designs and make pretty models. They actually got their hands dirty and designed the machinery used in the final production step as well.

But did they have lasers and CNC routers in those early days? Or was it a template/pattern from the final design model?

One of the videos does show a woman marking out the leather and cutting it by hand.

But, pfft, CNC router or by hand round a template is a mere detail really - the attention to detail and the hand finishing gives the quality.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 09, 2018, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 01:22:17 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 09, 2018, 01:08:40 PM
Yes, nice to see quality. I would love to see the processes used in the first models.

That was one of the very interesting ways that Charles and Ray Eames worked. They did not just draw designs and make pretty models. They actually got their hands dirty and designed the machinery used in the final production step as well.

But did they have lasers and CNC routers in those early days? Or was it a template/pattern from the final design model?

One of the videos does show a woman marking out the leather and cutting it by hand.

But, pfft, CNC router or by hand round a template is a mere detail really - the attention to detail and the hand finishing gives the quality.

No, they designed the plywood moulding machines. That was in 1955 to 1956, long before CNC routers and lasers. It all started during WWII when they designed plywood splints to be used in the field.
This movie from the Vitra factory in Weil am Rhein also shows the production and is very satisfying for workshop-oriented people to watch.


Another family of chairs, the Aluminium Group, was technically a greater achievement. Will post some of them soon.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 03:14:15 PM
I'm just thinking what a good response we've had to this topic of desirable things. The design missionary in me is very happy.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 09, 2018, 04:11:03 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 09, 2018, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 01:22:17 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 09, 2018, 01:08:40 PM
Yes, nice to see quality. I would love to see the processes used in the first models.

That was one of the very interesting ways that Charles and Ray Eames worked. They did not just draw designs and make pretty models. They actually got their hands dirty and designed the machinery used in the final production step as well.

But did they have lasers and CNC routers in those early days? Or was it a template/pattern from the final design model?

One of the videos does show a woman marking out the leather and cutting it by hand.

But, pfft, CNC router or by hand round a template is a mere detail really - the attention to detail and the hand finishing gives the quality.

No, they designed the plywood moulding machines. That was in 1955 to 1956, long before CNC routers and lasers. It all started during WWII when they designed plywood splints to be used in the field.
This movie from the Vitra factory in Weil am Rhein also shows the production and is very satisfying for workshop-oriented people to watch.


Another family of chairs, the Aluminium Group, was technically a greater achievement. Will post some of them soon.

That was the other one I saw. Hmm, similar techniques must have been used to form the plywood fuselage panels for the de Haviland Mosquito - to my mind one of the finest prop fighter bombers ever! Tried to find details of construction methods, no luck so far.

I think if your heroes had designed an aircraft the Mossie would have been close to it, Hermes, beauty with a sting!

(https://imgur.com/8wpejBP.jpg)

Aka "The Timber Terror", the "Loping Lumberyard" or the "Wooden Wonder" by some (probably Americans  :snooty: )
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 05:02:56 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 09, 2018, 04:11:03 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 09, 2018, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 01:22:17 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 09, 2018, 01:08:40 PM
Yes, nice to see quality. I would love to see the processes used in the first models.

That was one of the very interesting ways that Charles and Ray Eames worked. They did not just draw designs and make pretty models. They actually got their hands dirty and designed the machinery used in the final production step as well.

But did they have lasers and CNC routers in those early days? Or was it a template/pattern from the final design model?

One of the videos does show a woman marking out the leather and cutting it by hand.

But, pfft, CNC router or by hand round a template is a mere detail really - the attention to detail and the hand finishing gives the quality.

No, they designed the plywood moulding machines. That was in 1955 to 1956, long before CNC routers and lasers. It all started during WWII when they designed plywood splints to be used in the field.
This movie from the Vitra factory in Weil am Rhein also shows the production and is very satisfying for workshop-oriented people to watch.


Another family of chairs, the Aluminium Group, was technically a greater achievement. Will post some of them soon.

That was the other one I saw. Hmm, similar techniques must have been used to form the plywood fuselage panels for the de Haviland Mosquito - to my mind one of the finest prop fighter bombers ever! Tried to find details of construction methods, no luck so far.

I think if your heroes had designed an aircraft the Mossie would have been close to it, Hermes, beauty with a sting!

(https://imgur.com/8wpejBP.jpg)

Aka "The Timber Terror", the "Loping Lumberyard" or the "Wooden Wonder" by some (probably Americans  :snooty: )

I did not know they used plywood fuselage panels. There is a rather tenuous connection with flight by the Eames Office, in that Eames was second unit director on the Billy Wilder movie about Lindbergh (Spirit of St. Louis).
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 09, 2018, 05:21:12 PM
^
The whole Mossie body and wings were made from wood laminations. I thought it was ordinary plywood but read here (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito) it seems the core was balsa with a harder core at the panel edges! I had also been told that Araldite was invented to glue it together, but it seems that was another fake-fact!
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 09, 2018, 06:36:16 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 09, 2018, 10:09:58 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 08, 2018, 03:01:03 PM
I am very lucky in that I own some of the things I've posted, but what I still hope to own one day is a ceramic horse from the Tang dynasty. This is beautiful example. I also have a weakness for ones from the Han dynasty.
(https://i.imgur.com/usQKpwv.jpg)

Hint: I have a birthday coming up, in case you HAF guys are wondering what to get me.

Geez Hermes, we can do better than that, we won't stinge out getting you a second hand horse.

Here ya go, happy birthday.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81ma0HHCI8L._SY355_.jpg)

:rofl:

Does it squeak?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 09, 2018, 06:53:33 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 09, 2018, 06:36:16 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 09, 2018, 10:09:58 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 08, 2018, 03:01:03 PM
I am very lucky in that I own some of the things I've posted, but what I still hope to own one day is a ceramic horse from the Tang dynasty. This is beautiful example. I also have a weakness for ones from the Han dynasty.
(https://i.imgur.com/usQKpwv.jpg)

Hint: I have a birthday coming up, in case you HAF guys are wondering what to get me.

Geez Hermes, we can do better than that, we won't stinge out getting you a second hand horse.

Here ya go, happy birthday.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81ma0HHCI8L._SY355_.jpg)

:rofl:

Does it squeak?

I hope so and I hope she comes with a little comb for her hair. It will keep me busy for hours.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 09, 2018, 08:57:12 PM
 :snicker1:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 10, 2018, 10:30:11 AM
Quote from: Dave on April 09, 2018, 05:21:12 PM
^
The whole Mossie body and wings were made from wood laminations. I thought it was ordinary plywood but read here (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito) it seems the core was balsa with a harder core at the panel edges! I had also been told that Araldite was invented to glue it together, but it seems that was another fake-fact!

Araldite isn't really very good for joining wood,.... is it?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 10, 2018, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 10, 2018, 10:30:11 AM
Quote from: Dave on April 09, 2018, 05:21:12 PM
^
The whole Mossie body and wings were made from wood laminations. I thought it was ordinary plywood but read here (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito) it seems the core was balsa with a harder core at the panel edges! I had also been told that Araldite was invented to glue it together, but it seems that was another fake-fact!

Araldite isn't really very good for joining wood,.... is it?
I have used it when acrylic adhesives would not serve - especially wood to metal, (selected) plastic, glass or rubber joins. Don't make the wood surface too smooth. The wood usually fails before the adhesive in the case of wood/metal.

This was before hot melt was common but I would not trust hm in shear or tension, only as a place keeper in compression for structures.

Not good on woods like pitch pine though.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 11, 2018, 05:24:20 AM
Continuing my guided tour of physical things that I love, this is one I coveted for many years, since my teens, when I first saw it in a book. It is the chaise longue designed by the architects Le Corbusier and Charlotte Perriand in 1928, when she was only 27. Again, many copies are available, but the certified original design is still made by Cassina.

(https://i.imgur.com/zVFglMM.jpg)

My wonderful, generous, ex-wife gave me one as a birthday present when we were still married.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dragonia on April 11, 2018, 12:31:35 PM
Hermes, is the above chair comfortable? It's very sleek and distinctive, but it doesn't look very comfortable!
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 11, 2018, 12:54:10 PM
Quote from: Dragonia on April 11, 2018, 12:31:35 PM
Hermes, is the above chair comfortable? It's very sleek and distinctive, but it doesn't look very comfortable!

I think it looks comfortable but it seems to lock you into one position.
On a normal recliner you squirm around when tired of a position.
Angry Nazi voice: VE HAV DETERMINED THE PERFECT SITTING POSITION!
YOU SHALL ADOPT IT FOR THE DURATION OF THIS RECUMBENCY!
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dragonia on April 11, 2018, 01:14:50 PM
There aren't many objects that I deeply desire, I guess. I mean, I want things of course, and I find things beautiful, but not enough to pay for them.
What I deeply desire, what feeds my soul, isn't really objects, it's nature. There is a perfect example of what I aspire to surround myself with, fairly close to my home. I shall leave this tiny little minute-long video that gives a very brief glimpse of this 12-acre wonderland.

I have a rare opportunity to go tour this place in a couple of weeks, but what I really want is to go alone. But that's not allowed :'(
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 11, 2018, 01:34:35 PM
Does that chair rock hermes?

And to dragonia, all you have to do is plan and plant. Your garden wouldn't be the same but it would be yours.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 11, 2018, 01:39:53 PM
Quote from: Dragonia on April 11, 2018, 12:31:35 PM
Hermes, is the above chair comfortable? It's very sleek and distinctive, but it doesn't look very comfortable!

The whole  things rotates so one can use it almost sitting up to a position where the feet are above one's head. One pregnant woman told me that was her favourite position. I find it comdortable after a busy day to just relax and de-stress for perhaps 20 minutes. The rest of the time it just looks so damn beautiful, almost as a piece of sculpture, so to me that is also an important function. For long periods I find the Eames chairs more suitable for TV watching or reading. I find the Eames Aluminium Group armchair, of which I have 2, also very comfortable. This one:

(https://i.imgur.com/JUNHOWm.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 11, 2018, 01:41:54 PM
Quote from: Dragonia on April 11, 2018, 01:14:50 PM
There aren't many objects that I deeply desire, I guess. I mean, I want things of course, and I find things beautiful, but not enough to pay for them.
What I deeply desire, what feeds my soul, isn't really objects, it's nature. There is a perfect example of what I aspire to surround myself with, fairly close to my home. I shall leave this tiny little minute-long video that gives a very brief glimpse of this 12-acre wonderland.

I have a rare opportunity to go tour this place in a couple of weeks, but what I really want is to go alone. But that's not allowed :'(

I agree 100% about gardens, specifically, the Japanese Zen gardens in Kyoto.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 11, 2018, 01:45:21 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 11, 2018, 01:34:35 PM
Does that chair rock hermes?

And to dragonia, all you have to do is plan and plant. Your garden wouldn't be the same but it would be yours.

No, it doesn't rock as such, but you can position it any way you want, because those big circular tubes just rest on the base, on big rubber-covered rollers.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dragonia on April 11, 2018, 02:45:33 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 11, 2018, 01:45:21 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 11, 2018, 01:34:35 PM
Does that chair rock hermes?

And to dragonia, all you have to do is plan and plant. Your garden wouldn't be the same but it would be yours.

No, it doesn't rock as such, but you can position it any way you want, because those big circular tubes just rest on the base, on big rubber-covered rollers.

That's actually really cool!
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 11, 2018, 02:54:22 PM
Quote from: Dragonia on April 11, 2018, 02:45:33 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 11, 2018, 01:45:21 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 11, 2018, 01:34:35 PM
Does that chair rock hermes?

And to dragonia, all you have to do is plan and plant. Your garden wouldn't be the same but it would be yours.

No, it doesn't rock as such, but you can position it any way you want, because those big circular tubes just rest on the base, on big rubber-covered rollers.

That's actually really cool!

I was just now looking for a book I know I have that shows different positions, but can't find it. Perhaps I should take a photo of it in a different position.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 12, 2018, 12:10:48 AM
What I want right now is a brain stress toy:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61u1C9z33FL._SX355_.jpg)

I have a tiny one but it's not the same as a larger squishy toy you can wrap your fingers around...not the same... :headshake:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 12, 2018, 04:31:21 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 12, 2018, 12:10:48 AM
What I want right now is a brain stress toy:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61u1C9z33FL._SX355_.jpg)

I have a tiny one but it's not the same as a larger squishy toy you can wrap your fingers around...not the same... :headshake:

You think your brain is tiny? You should see mine.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Icarus on April 12, 2018, 07:03:33 AM
Dragonia, that beautiful place makes me think of some lines from Omar Khayam.........A jug of wine, a loaf of bread, and thou beside me in the wilderness, is paradise enow.

Who could imagine such a place in Alabama the bastion of the redneck culture.  That is actually no fair.  There are magnificent places in our small world that we often fail to appreciate. Almost....well not quite, make me want to believe in god and his glory.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dragonia on April 12, 2018, 02:18:27 PM
 ;) ^^^ ... almost....
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Davin on April 12, 2018, 08:39:44 PM
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CheerfulHandsomeDutchshepherddog-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 13, 2018, 04:35:33 AM
Quote from: Davin on April 12, 2018, 08:39:44 PM
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CheerfulHandsomeDutchshepherddog-size_restricted.gif)

That's a good desk toy.

I've always wanted a Crookes radiometer.

Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Icarus on April 13, 2018, 04:55:07 AM
Me too, I have always wanted a radiometer...and several other remarkable science toys.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 13, 2018, 05:12:25 AM
Quote from: Icarus on April 13, 2018, 04:55:07 AM
Me too, I have always wanted a radiometer...and several other remarkable science toys.

When I was a boy I had one of those drinking birds. I don't know what they are called, perhaps "drinking birds"?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 13, 2018, 06:31:02 AM
Got a radiometer but so old now it rarely works unless you give it a nudge to break the "stiction". When new it would work in almost darknes just by wrapping your hands round it without actually touching it - had one kid semi-convinced that was mind over matter! Still want to know how they are made.

And a so-called "Gallileo" thermometer, a "Newton's cradle", a "solar motor" (six cells each with a coil that spin on a "magnetic suspension spindle" in sunlight) and other sciency toys.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 13, 2018, 06:49:09 AM
I don't think I will ever grow up.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 13, 2018, 07:01:00 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 13, 2018, 06:49:09 AM
I don't think I will ever grow up.

I don't think people with truly adaptive intelligemce ever do!
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 13, 2018, 08:09:41 AM
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 13, 2018, 08:43:35 AM
^
I seem to remember a sort of folded card  version of that, a shape that tesnsformed into other shapes. But clever and attractive.

The true desire may be to achieve the conception and construction of such devices oneself!

The video lead to this one

https://youtu.be/xp-PENvptu0

I worked it out, except for the "'lock," quite early but, again, very clever in its conception.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 13, 2018, 01:02:41 PM
This thing here ranks as one of my greatest desires:

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10308203_668770479825132_3076632807220597730_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeFOzjib9vn2rKXwHQmwKiOTROGNogRCx-Rfs4KkNy7VCMKS4m4miat1ULx4UUkygktazZDfaa0KRtCcMm8BzMKKPEIFKRE3FMW-VBhtUTfNZg&oh=01659b46989c22013a9b8dfcf4293b26&oe=5B6BF12B)


^A Prijon Kodiak...   The one pictured above was mine.   I had it delivered to the Headwaters Hostel, Lake Itasca, Headwaters of the Mississippi River.   I packed it up and paddled down the river a ways...

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10153203_668770546491792_2652661960814164472_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeHRVB4N4QoYVZ3t5otTu-eXf36liR-B6BrtB62VoHUgPe6vXROY_T3Sl0wm9rc_CjJcPKEzIA9OENNpfbVYnFJfLfd_XjoUlF9zMunnypmF3Q&oh=edbc237a867669513a82bbbc6e9936d0&oe=5B58739A)

^The Mississippi River starts out as a creek.     


It's more like a river further downstream:

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10308754_668771866491660_4611848523065328790_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeE74KylZMpAPNEsJKqKogT1OI8MZYy67qOrOH6Qr3ncai9Ob54qPIbp-DnPH_tJoXQ1vQi-3Tscg1Q9h6mzKKhJMFq8K0Dp4bb-omJQ4Uh2UQ&oh=39ab3d2d121904ab23ae55459c62959c&oe=5B611A6F)



I finally got it back to California, after getting snowed on on the Mississippi.    It gave me a chance to get around a local reservoir with my hatch covers off so I could pick up all the trash along the shore.   I filled that 17' kayak up 3 times getting it all, with the help of my escorts, of course (moms was pissed!  lol).

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10257208_668840956484751_6767789302942687946_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeEx-1MheNgoi7hiX0MVEZmILAHvL-K4FqZ5t7ly_Z6oPEv9ieYtWa41fIxtNfxackz8cGBS927oz2ae8PErcuMZcRxPY-LepbHimKovMRAGVQ&oh=e421dcc55f6a82a611c1b403c2e2732a&oe=5B6A884B)


And then my baby got flambeed.   That was the end of that love affair.    Been wanting to replace her ever since.    Probably have to do that soon.

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10295809_668772196491627_6502292548223925457_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGFzIQRSTb1gIpoT1UnNLVj0Qcsu4BB2vrT7byi9zAHLoMzHy1BT7nE2MM4Ur_fuueE6u4bNolYAy8gZ0HooKxQMmapOkmWaJ5g8vxLi0QOMA&oh=97dfee07961365f4edaad411b9ac060d&oe=5B627228)

Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 13, 2018, 01:12:07 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 13, 2018, 01:02:41 PM
This thing here ranks as one of my greatest desires:

I saw the pic of the boat and the river and thought it wasn't a good match.
Prijons are made of a more brittle plastic than some?
I didn't expect it to spontaneously combust though, it hasn't up come in the reviews I've read.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dragonia on April 13, 2018, 01:17:11 PM
Holy crap, RZ, what happened?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dragonia on April 13, 2018, 01:19:04 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 13, 2018, 08:43:35 AM
^
I seem to remember a sort of folded card  version of that, a shape that tesnsformed into other shapes. But clever and attractive.

The true desire may be to achieve the conception and construction of such devices oneself!

The video lead to this one

https://youtu.be/xp-PENvptu0

I worked it out, except for the "'lock," quite early but, again, very clever in its conception.

I love giving puzzles like this as gifts, and these boxes, and Hermes' stars are really neat... they are now on my list!  ;)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 13, 2018, 01:32:44 PM
Yea, Bad Penny, a 17' sea kayak is not exactly the best choice for rivers, but I had seen bigger waters in similar craft before, and I handle it well, so whatever...  Besides, lots of slack water on the Mississippi, and sea kayaks rule for that.   

On the contrary! -the Prijon craft have the best material available in a kayak.  it's tough as nails and has much more structual integrity than other plastic craft  no flex=better performance...  I could sand on the deck of both of mine without depressing much at all.   the material weighs a bit more than usual, making for a slightly heavier craft, but small price to pay, there is nothing better, it's the only craft I'd take on an expedition. 

Dragonia, it was stored in a shipping container owned by the county parks department.   They got tired of pulling the pota-potty out of the lake when vandals dumped it in the water, so they bolted the pota-potty to the shipping container.   In that container, they had built a wooden platform up high to hold a little aluminum skiff/dinghy...   Well, around the 4th of July when fireworks are a big thing in America, vandals terrorized the park with m80s in paint cans, car burn-out doughnuts, and they torched the porta-potty.   The platform for the skiff caught on one end and flambeed my kayak as it burned through. 


Ever paddle through a lawn?    In the fall, when I was there, there is wild rice all over the place!   Most of the Headwaters area is marsh land where wild rice thrives, and all sorts of other plants, including floating ones.    I often could not see the water at all, only a sea of floating and waving green.    Anyway, I can share of taste of it with you...    This was within one linear mile of the official headwaters of the river.  I figured out the "grasses" I was paddling through was wild rice just after I shot that.   



Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 13, 2018, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 13, 2018, 01:32:44 PMno flex=better performance... 

=brittle.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 13, 2018, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 13, 2018, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 13, 2018, 01:32:44 PMno flex=better performance... 

=brittle.
lol   Not necessarily.   The molecular structure bonds to friends in more places than typical materials, making for better structural integrity; it's still a flexible plastic, however.   Only time you need to worry about "brittle" is when you freeze it, and even then it performs better than most.

people have lost them off their cars doing 70~80 mph; it's rarely catastrophic, usually only a few scratches to show for it!    -brittle?  no so much.  Not to mention you cant bring brittle on an expedition style adventure...   You need something you can bounce off rocks without thinking twice about it...   Prijon delivers.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 13, 2018, 03:07:12 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 13, 2018, 01:02:41 PM
This thing here ranks as one of my greatest desires:

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10308203_668770479825132_3076632807220597730_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeFOzjib9vn2rKXwHQmwKiOTROGNogRCx-Rfs4KkNy7VCMKS4m4miat1ULx4UUkygktazZDfaa0KRtCcMm8BzMKKPEIFKRE3FMW-VBhtUTfNZg&oh=01659b46989c22013a9b8dfcf4293b26&oe=5B6BF12B)


^A Prijon Kodiak...   The one pictured above was mine.   I had it delivered to the Headwaters Hostel, Lake Itasca, Headwaters of the Mississippi River.   I packed it up and paddled down the river a ways...

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10153203_668770546491792_2652661960814164472_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeHRVB4N4QoYVZ3t5otTu-eXf36liR-B6BrtB62VoHUgPe6vXROY_T3Sl0wm9rc_CjJcPKEzIA9OENNpfbVYnFJfLfd_XjoUlF9zMunnypmF3Q&oh=edbc237a867669513a82bbbc6e9936d0&oe=5B58739A)

^The Mississippi River starts out as a creek.     


It's more like a river further downstream:

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10308754_668771866491660_4611848523065328790_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeE74KylZMpAPNEsJKqKogT1OI8MZYy67qOrOH6Qr3ncai9Ob54qPIbp-DnPH_tJoXQ1vQi-3Tscg1Q9h6mzKKhJMFq8K0Dp4bb-omJQ4Uh2UQ&oh=39ab3d2d121904ab23ae55459c62959c&oe=5B611A6F)



I finally got it back to California, after getting snowed on on the Mississippi.    It gave me a chance to get around a local reservoir with my hatch covers off so I could pick up all the trash along the shore.   I filled that 17' kayak up 3 times getting it all, with the help of my escorts, of course (moms was pissed!  lol).

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10257208_668840956484751_6767789302942687946_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeEx-1MheNgoi7hiX0MVEZmILAHvL-K4FqZ5t7ly_Z6oPEv9ieYtWa41fIxtNfxackz8cGBS927oz2ae8PErcuMZcRxPY-LepbHimKovMRAGVQ&oh=e421dcc55f6a82a611c1b403c2e2732a&oe=5B6A884B)


And then my baby got flambeed.   That was the end of that love affair.    Been wanting to replace her ever since.    Probably have to do that soon.

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10295809_668772196491627_6502292548223925457_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGFzIQRSTb1gIpoT1UnNLVj0Qcsu4BB2vrT7byi9zAHLoMzHy1BT7nE2MM4Ur_fuueE6u4bNolYAy8gZ0HooKxQMmapOkmWaJ5g8vxLi0QOMA&oh=97dfee07961365f4edaad411b9ac060d&oe=5B627228)

That's a real disaster.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 13, 2018, 03:15:41 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 13, 2018, 03:07:12 PM
That's a real disaster.

yea.    that was a bad day for me.    The scene was still smouldering when I got there for a nice morning paddle.   

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10262170_668772166491630_14732343355198130_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e1406f0be65aacce3cea977f2aaa5552&oe=5B66B8DA)


This is precicely how I took it:   :cryandrun:

Came back after a short drive along the creek, upstream of the reservoir, to assess the damage.   Being out $2500 worth of gear didn't hurt as much as loosing my traveling companion.   
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Magdalena on April 13, 2018, 04:24:52 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 13, 2018, 03:07:12 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 13, 2018, 01:02:41 PM
This thing here ranks as one of my greatest desires:

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10308203_668770479825132_3076632807220597730_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeFOzjib9vn2rKXwHQmwKiOTROGNogRCx-Rfs4KkNy7VCMKS4m4miat1ULx4UUkygktazZDfaa0KRtCcMm8BzMKKPEIFKRE3FMW-VBhtUTfNZg&oh=01659b46989c22013a9b8dfcf4293b26&oe=5B6BF12B)


^A Prijon Kodiak...   The one pictured above was mine.   I had it delivered to the Headwaters Hostel, Lake Itasca, Headwaters of the Mississippi River.   I packed it up and paddled down the river a ways...

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10153203_668770546491792_2652661960814164472_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeHRVB4N4QoYVZ3t5otTu-eXf36liR-B6BrtB62VoHUgPe6vXROY_T3Sl0wm9rc_CjJcPKEzIA9OENNpfbVYnFJfLfd_XjoUlF9zMunnypmF3Q&oh=edbc237a867669513a82bbbc6e9936d0&oe=5B58739A)

^The Mississippi River starts out as a creek.     


It's more like a river further downstream:

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10308754_668771866491660_4611848523065328790_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeE74KylZMpAPNEsJKqKogT1OI8MZYy67qOrOH6Qr3ncai9Ob54qPIbp-DnPH_tJoXQ1vQi-3Tscg1Q9h6mzKKhJMFq8K0Dp4bb-omJQ4Uh2UQ&oh=39ab3d2d121904ab23ae55459c62959c&oe=5B611A6F)



I finally got it back to California, after getting snowed on on the Mississippi.    It gave me a chance to get around a local reservoir with my hatch covers off so I could pick up all the trash along the shore.   I filled that 17' kayak up 3 times getting it all, with the help of my escorts, of course (moms was pissed!  lol).

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10257208_668840956484751_6767789302942687946_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeEx-1MheNgoi7hiX0MVEZmILAHvL-K4FqZ5t7ly_Z6oPEv9ieYtWa41fIxtNfxackz8cGBS927oz2ae8PErcuMZcRxPY-LepbHimKovMRAGVQ&oh=e421dcc55f6a82a611c1b403c2e2732a&oe=5B6A884B)


And then my baby got flambeed.   That was the end of that love affair.    Been wanting to replace her ever since.    Probably have to do that soon.

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10295809_668772196491627_6502292548223925457_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGFzIQRSTb1gIpoT1UnNLVj0Qcsu4BB2vrT7byi9zAHLoMzHy1BT7nE2MM4Ur_fuueE6u4bNolYAy8gZ0HooKxQMmapOkmWaJ5g8vxLi0QOMA&oh=97dfee07961365f4edaad411b9ac060d&oe=5B627228)

That's a real disaster.
Those are nice photographs, RZ,  :)...Except for the last one.  :(
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 13, 2018, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 13, 2018, 04:24:52 PM
Those are nice photographs, RZ,  :)...Except for the last one.  :(

Thanks!    Yea, can't always be rainbows and butterflies, I guess.   

But sometimes you can get in a waterfall and dragonfly: 

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10247460_667035653331948_6996528464835601326_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=d00121a216422b6443c94d0c1c7429ad&oe=5B6F5676)
one of the Sunset Falls series, Big Basin Redwoods State Park, Santa Cruz Mountains, California.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: joeactor on April 13, 2018, 10:22:44 PM
Love the puzzle boxes.

Sorry about the boat :(
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Magdalena on April 14, 2018, 08:36:06 AM
Quote from: Davin on April 12, 2018, 08:39:44 PM
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CheerfulHandsomeDutchshepherddog-size_restricted.gif)
I used to collect that, "stuff" with a magnet, when I was little. Cool stuff to play with.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Davin on April 16, 2018, 02:52:03 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 14, 2018, 08:36:06 AM
Quote from: Davin on April 12, 2018, 08:39:44 PM
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CheerfulHandsomeDutchshepherddog-size_restricted.gif)
I used to collect that, "stuff" with a magnet, when I was little. Cool stuff to play with.
Yeah, that stuff is fun. I also want some of this hydrophobic sand:
(https://i.redd.it/0olna6fv4sr01.gif)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 16, 2018, 04:37:51 PM
Quote from: Davin on April 16, 2018, 02:52:03 PM
Yeah, that stuff is fun. I also want some of this hydrophobic sand:
(https://i.redd.it/0olna6fv4sr01.gif)

This guy shoes how to make it.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Magdalena on April 16, 2018, 10:09:52 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 16, 2018, 04:37:51 PM
Quote from: Davin on April 16, 2018, 02:52:03 PM
Yeah, that stuff is fun. I also want some of this hydrophobic sand:
(https://i.redd.it/0olna6fv4sr01.gif)

This guy shoes how to make it.

Cool.  8)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 17, 2018, 05:12:25 AM
Today, a cornucopia of dragonflies by René Lalique. They are very desirable examples of Art Nouveau design.

(https://i.imgur.com/IJMrLjh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kptalYI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vEtTawD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iu1BAy8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Vx2LvU8.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 17, 2018, 10:56:36 AM
Here's a boat for Rift Zone, it's a skeg boat though and I do like a rudder.
There's a certain Spartan cred though for those that eschew the rudder.
It's a good deal 2nd hand, so you can't loose much.

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/eleebana/kayaks-paddle/valley-aquanaut-rm-lv-sea-kayak-in-very-good-condition/1181373305 (https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/eleebana/kayaks-paddle/valley-aquanaut-rm-lv-sea-kayak-in-very-good-condition/1181373305)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTAwWDE2MDA=/z/b90AAOSw4jFa1Hsr/$_20.PNG)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 17, 2018, 01:04:55 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 17, 2018, 05:12:25 AM
Today, a cornucopia of dragonflies by René Lalique. They are very desirable examples of Art Nouveau design.

(https://i.imgur.com/IJMrLjh.jpg)

^That one is pretty cool, i'd sport it.

Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 17, 2018, 10:56:36 AM
Here's a boat for Rift Zone, it's a skeg boat though and I do like a rudder.
There's a certain Spartan cred though for those that eschew the rudder.
It's a good deal 2nd hand, so you can't loose much.

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/eleebana/kayaks-paddle/valley-aquanaut-rm-lv-sea-kayak-in-very-good-condition/1181373305 (https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/eleebana/kayaks-paddle/valley-aquanaut-rm-lv-sea-kayak-in-very-good-condition/1181373305)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTAwWDE2MDA=/z/b90AAOSw4jFa1Hsr/$_20.PNG)
I already have a "rubber ducky"!   -My term of endearment for kayaks that can get you on the water, but don't exactly qualify as true gear.   Rudder elitists can tell me all about their superior nature as they eat my wake when the wind picks up.  ;)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 17, 2018, 01:35:55 PM
Are the wings on those dragonflies stained glass?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 17, 2018, 01:41:39 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 17, 2018, 01:04:55 PM
^That one is pretty cool, i'd sport it.

Lalique also made some belt buckles for men. These were popular gifts from guys to their boyfriends in the 1920s.

(https://i.imgur.com/hL4HwfT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gvqUVBr.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Rift Zone on April 17, 2018, 02:16:50 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 17, 2018, 01:41:39 PM
Quote from: Rift Zone on April 17, 2018, 01:04:55 PM
^That one is pretty cool, i'd sport it.

Lalique also made some belt buckles for men. These were popular gifts from guys to their boyfriends in the 1920s.

(https://i.imgur.com/hL4HwfT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gvqUVBr.jpg)
Those are cool too!    Nice.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 17, 2018, 02:32:18 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 17, 2018, 01:35:55 PM
Are the wings on those dragonflies stained glass?

I'm pretty sure they are. Lalique was a master of glass techniques. He started off as a jeweller. When he needed some cameo style heads, he made them from glass using the cire perdue technique. He was then commissioned to make perfume bottles, and that gave him the idea to start making vases. So today when people hear the name Lalique, they usually think of his vases and plates.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dragonia on April 18, 2018, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 link=topic=15726.msg373531#msg373531
Lalique also made some belt buckles for men. These were popular gifts from guys to their boyfriends in the 1920s.

(https://i.imgur.com/hL4HwfT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gvqUVBr.jpg)

Those look medieval and maybe a little scary. Like maybe they have a nefarious dual purpose... :o
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 18, 2018, 02:11:03 PM
Quote from: Dragonia on April 18, 2018, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 link=topic=15726.msg373531#msg373531
Lalique also made some belt buckles for men. These were popular gifts from guys to their boyfriends in the 1920s.

(https://i.imgur.com/hL4HwfT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gvqUVBr.jpg)

Those look medieval and maybe a little scary. Like maybe they have a nefarious dual purpose... :o

did you mean purposes?
If I was the cat on the left,
I'd bite but I wouldn't swallow.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 18, 2018, 02:26:06 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 17, 2018, 02:32:18 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 17, 2018, 01:35:55 PM
Are the wings on those dragonflies stained glass?

I'm pretty sure they are. Lalique was a master of glass techniques. He started off as a jeweller. When he needed some cameo style heads, he made them from glass using the cire perdue technique. He was then commissioned to make perfume bottles, and that gave him the idea to start making vases. So today when people hear the name Lalique, they usually think of his vases and plates.

It seems I was wrong. The wings are actually plique-a-jour enamel, which does resemble stained glass.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dave on April 18, 2018, 02:53:51 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 18, 2018, 02:26:06 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 17, 2018, 02:32:18 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 17, 2018, 01:35:55 PM
Are the wings on those dragonflies stained glass?

I'm pretty sure they are. Lalique was a master of glass techniques. He started off as a jeweller. When he needed some cameo style heads, he made them from glass using the cire perdue technique. He was then commissioned to make perfume bottles, and that gave him the idea to start making vases. So today when people hear the name Lalique, they usually think of his vases and plates.

It seems I was wrong. The wings are actually plique-a-jour enamel, which does resemble stained glass.

All but stained glass, since ensmel is a hkass andbit is voloured! Would hate to try actually cutying shapes out of gkass that thin though . . . Though gemstones have been cut to very small, thin shapes for many centuries

Facinating process:

https://youtu.be/7_adGkoEirU

This is part 2, there is a psrt three.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 18, 2018, 03:26:28 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 18, 2018, 02:53:51 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 18, 2018, 02:26:06 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 17, 2018, 02:32:18 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 17, 2018, 01:35:55 PM
Are the wings on those dragonflies stained glass?

I'm pretty sure they are. Lalique was a master of glass techniques. He started off as a jeweller. When he needed some cameo style heads, he made them from glass using the cire perdue technique. He was then commissioned to make perfume bottles, and that gave him the idea to start making vases. So today when people hear the name Lalique, they usually think of his vases and plates.

It seems I was wrong. The wings are actually plique-a-jour enamel, which does resemble stained glass.

All but stained glass, since ensmel is a hkass andbit is voloured! Would hate to try actually cutying shapes out of gkass that thin though . . . Though gemstones have been cut to very small, thin shapes for many centuries

Facinating process:

https://youtu.be/7_adGkoEirU

This is part 2, there is a psrt three.

Wonderfully instructive video. One has to admire the skill of the jeweller.

The technique of cloisonné is similar to plique-a-jour. My dealer once offered me a cloisonné bowl, about 15cm in diameter, by Fabergé. He wanted the equivalent of £2000 for it, so naturally I told him that I wanted it. I went to collect it the next day, only to be told that he had received an overnight offer of £15 000 for it from a buyer in London. So that time I lost out. If I had rushed over immediately to buy it, I would have owned quite a valuable Fabergé bowl today. I guess you can't win them all.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 25, 2018, 03:41:26 PM
There was some surprise in the HAF Cutlery thread recently when I said I liked simple things, so I thought it would be a good idea to clarify what I meant. My posts of some Art Nouveau jewellery by Lalique may have given the impression that my home is decorated in that style. My taste in objects is admittedly quite catholic, meaning that I appreciate many different styles and periods of design. But what I choose to live with at home is totally the opposite to Art Nouveau, although I do own a number of original Lalique pieces. I truly have a preference for very simple, unadorned things, but that does not mean they are unsophisticated. I don't like floral prints and other types of surface decoration; I like raw silk and natural, undyed cotton and linen fabrics. There is a Japanese word, shibui, that is a perfect description of what I like in my home.

I have been using this tableware (designed by the Finnish potter Ulla Procope for the Arabia factory in Finland) since my student days when I started collecting it. It illustrates quite well what I've been saying.
(https://i.imgur.com/TIodYmF.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/SJsTWEa.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on April 25, 2018, 03:54:55 PM
I never thought I'd say this but those are some sexy pots you have there Hermes.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on April 25, 2018, 04:40:08 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on April 25, 2018, 03:54:55 PM
I never thought I'd say this but those are some sexy pots you have there Hermes.

Thank you. I have always loved that design. It is now discontinued, but they have become popular with collectors and come up at auction from time to time. To be honest, the photos are not actually of my own ones at home, but I have exactly the same ones and more. The photos are from Google:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Ulla+Procope+ruska&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiH8JuD4dXaAhWGyKQKHS-fAJMQ7AkIOg&biw=1920&bih=956
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 24, 2018, 02:47:10 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fappsisecommerces3.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fclientes%2Fcliente4334%2Fprodutos%2F39768%2FZ4210.jpg&hash=435e62e690a592361e1d37b2f5e08aaa2b138ae6)

:sad sigh:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dark Lightning on November 24, 2018, 10:32:41 PM
WOW! I just found this thread. Many beautiful objects! I'll dig up a few pics and post them up.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 25, 2018, 12:22:20 PM
^ Your username reminds me of the plasma lamp I always wanted to have:

(https://picjumbo.com/wp-content/uploads/touching-the-plasma-ball-lamp_free_stock_photos_picjumbo_P1000432-2210x1475.jpg)

A rather useless but beautiful item.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Dark Lightning on November 25, 2018, 09:14:31 PM
Cool! I picked my handle up from some information I found about terrestrial gamma ray sources- lightning inside clouds that we don't see any light from- dark lightning. If you fly near storm clouds you may be exposed to gamma rays if there is internal lightning. Crazy.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Anne D. on November 28, 2018, 03:52:15 AM
I'm sold on the lovely dragonfly jewelry and the wood and black leather chair. Yum.

I think an old, nicely maintained Jaguar would be quite nice. Not the new bubbly-looking ones, though.

But the things I really covet are services, not goods. Housekeeping, massages, therapy, personal training, handymanning. The finer things in life.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Tank on November 28, 2018, 08:00:57 AM
A functioning, or failing that artificial, pancreas.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on February 07, 2019, 05:29:13 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cvCSKM2.jpg)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on February 07, 2019, 02:24:12 PM
It needs wider armrests, but I like it!
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on February 07, 2019, 03:04:33 PM
Quote from: Tank on November 28, 2018, 08:00:57 AM
A functioning, or failing that artificial, pancreas.

:o

I'll see what I can do.

Have you thought of doing air bnb?
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Bad Penny II on February 07, 2019, 03:11:21 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on February 07, 2019, 02:24:12 PM
It needs wider armrests, but I like it!

It needs to be a proper chair with a high back and cushy cushions.
You can't possibly shelve all the books you might want about your chair, another solution must be found.
I'm thinking drones, remote controlled miniature railways and minion refugees from Asmodealand.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on February 08, 2019, 03:32:07 AM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on February 07, 2019, 03:11:21 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on February 07, 2019, 02:24:12 PM
It needs wider armrests, but I like it!

It needs to be a proper chair with a high back and cushy cushions.
You can't possibly shelve all the books you might want about your chair, another solution must be found.
I'm thinking drones, remote controlled miniature railways and minion refugees from Asmodealand.

:thumbsup2:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 09, 2019, 01:19:28 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on February 07, 2019, 05:29:13 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cvCSKM2.jpg)

Hmmm...that would be literally 'sitting on a shelf'.  :chin:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Essie Mae on February 21, 2019, 11:53:15 PM
Extend it perhaps so you could put your feet up.  It's very good as it is though.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Tank on February 22, 2019, 01:25:48 PM
Quote from: Essie Mae on February 21, 2019, 11:53:15 PM
Extend it perhaps so you could put your feet up.  It's very good as it is though.

And then you'd find yourself falling asleep on it :)
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Essie Mae on February 22, 2019, 07:17:37 PM
Sadly true.😉
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: hermes2015 on February 25, 2019, 05:57:50 PM
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: joeactor on February 26, 2019, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on February 25, 2019, 05:57:50 PM


My wife's got one at her office. Reminds me too much of a grade-school desk.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: jumbojak on February 26, 2019, 09:17:58 PM
I'd like that chair but on a swivel stool.
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 28, 2019, 03:02:44 PM
(https://imgcdn0.searchoptics.com/cdno/n/q75/https://blueprint-cdn.searchoptics.com.br/e1d6a19dd259bd6b99a0e27558b33927/IMGHB202_CSH01.jpg)

:tellmemore:
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: Icarus on April 30, 2019, 02:21:18 AM
One of my unrealistic objects of desire...........dirty old man with hopeless visions of grandeur.     ::)    .........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzyWhkXcApc&list=PLs41KuPZcCA9U4D5V42yakvv9vdIoAeIm
Title: Re: Objects of Desire
Post by: joeactor on April 30, 2019, 02:33:11 AM
Quote from: Icarus on April 30, 2019, 02:21:18 AM
One of my unrealistic objects of desire...........dirty old man with hopeless visions of grandeur.     ::)    .........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzyWhkXcApc&list=PLs41KuPZcCA9U4D5V42yakvv9vdIoAeIm

The woman or the guitar?