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Title: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Hector Valdez on July 14, 2012, 04:07:07 AM
I find it difficult, at times, to maintain momentum over things to which I wish to aspire. The deed I've held to the house of hope I so fervently to occupy has slipped beyond my grasp. What's worse, the hand that dropped the paper down the stormdrain knew the fruit of all it's labor. What good is a deed to housing not my own? And so, with such a frequent repitition, do I turn to other projefts. I, perhaps am just an introspective individual, with tad too much an introspective mind.

Yet nothing really changes. I am speaking of my nature, tending towards impulse as it is. But might that fault of mine still lead to greater changes? With hope, it will.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Amicale on July 16, 2012, 05:25:28 PM
:) What is it that you're trying to aspire to or achieve?

Nothing wrong with being introspective. Being cryptic, on the other hand, leaves us wanting more.  ;)
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on July 16, 2012, 05:32:50 PM
Not going to lie, I don't know what you're talking about either.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: En_Route on July 16, 2012, 05:34:50 PM
Quote from: Amicale on July 16, 2012, 05:25:28 PM
:) What is it that you're trying to aspire to or achieve?

Nothing wrong with being introspective. Being cryptic, on the other hand, leaves us wanting more.  ;)

Or less.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Hector Valdez on July 16, 2012, 05:42:12 PM
I admit to a certain amount of incoherence during the composition of this thread. I blame lack of sleep. Perhaps deletion is in order? Also, see Philosophy Forum. :)
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on July 16, 2012, 05:43:17 PM
It's okay, you could just explain what you mean in slightly more accessible terms.  :)
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Hector Valdez on July 16, 2012, 05:50:53 PM
*blush* I actually do talk like this in everyday life. Makes me the life of no party. :) But I shall see what I can do about it.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Siz on July 16, 2012, 06:19:33 PM
A communication-fail personal best. Well done RR!

Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: OldGit on July 16, 2012, 06:27:43 PM
Don't be hard on poor old RR.  It's us who are too thick to comprehend.  ???
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: En_Route on July 16, 2012, 08:00:28 PM
Quote from: OldGit on July 16, 2012, 06:27:43 PM
Don't be hard on poor old RR.  It's us who are too thick to comprehend.  ???

That's what they say about God.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Ali on July 16, 2012, 09:08:06 PM
I can't stop staring at E_R's puppy avatar.  I want to tickle his widdle puppy belly and kiss his widdle puppy ears.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: En_Route on July 16, 2012, 09:09:22 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 16, 2012, 09:08:06 PM
I can't stop staring at E_R's puppy avatar.  I want to tickle his widdle puppy belly and kiss his widdle puppy ears.

I really wouldn't  recommend it.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 17, 2012, 03:34:32 AM
The pup's playful tumbling is probably worse than its bite.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Icarus on July 17, 2012, 04:37:16 AM
Chill RR. Whatever it is that is bedeviling you will eventually go away. Easy for me to say of course. True nonetheless. Hang in there.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Firebird on July 17, 2012, 04:45:28 AM
Hmm...some long-term goal you've always wanted to accomplish, but have always been too busy/distracted to devote time to it, and now regret it?

Or maybe I'm just projecting my own issues onto you :)
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 17, 2012, 05:51:00 PM
I don't really get what you're saying. You lost your house?
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Ali on July 17, 2012, 10:40:20 PM
This seems a bit like vaguebooking (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Vaguebooking) to me.  :P
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Firebird on July 18, 2012, 02:39:27 AM
Quote from: Ali on July 17, 2012, 10:40:20 PM
This seems a bit like vaguebooking (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Vaguebooking) to me.  :P

Ha, I never heard that term before. Love it
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Dobermonster on July 18, 2012, 03:35:50 AM
Quote from: Ali on July 17, 2012, 10:40:20 PM
This seems a bit like vaguebooking (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Vaguebooking) to me.  :P
That's it! That's the word I was looking for.

RR, if you're going through some rough times (which is how I interpreted the OP), and want some feedback or support, it's ok to talk plainly - I think there's some very empathetic people here. You may be a very introspective person (I am the same), but indulging it during stress can lead to greater depression. Try to stand back from the situation and analyze it as if you were an observer; discuss it rationally. 
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 19, 2012, 01:54:54 AM
Vaguebooking...I wasn't familiar with that before.

I don't like vague messages, but they perk up my curiosity. Interesting in themselves.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Sweetdeath on July 19, 2012, 02:59:05 AM
The heck.. I want to understand you, but i just can't seem to grasp at what you're getting at.  >:(
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on July 19, 2012, 09:44:04 PM
I think you have made a proper self-diagnosis. You can't maintain the energy/interest level up to do what you plan/want to do because you are wasting all your energy on introspection. Just do it. Get 'er done.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Stevil on July 19, 2012, 10:28:38 PM
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 14, 2012, 04:07:07 AM
I find it difficult, at times, to maintain momentum over things to which I wish to aspire. The deed I've held to the house of hope I so fervently to occupy has slipped beyond my grasp. What's worse, the hand that dropped the paper down the stormdrain knew the fruit of all it's labor. What good is a deed to housing not my own? And so, with such a frequent repitition, do I turn to other projefts. I, perhaps am just an introspective individual, with tad too much an introspective mind.

Yet nothing really changes. I am speaking of my nature, tending towards impulse as it is. But might that fault of mine still lead to greater changes? With hope, it will.
Time for Stevil's translator service

RenegeReversi, has lost hope towards achieving a goal.
He is frustrated because finds himself often distracted by other things, hence not moving towards his goal, possibly moving away.

With regards to
"I, perhaps am just an introspective individual, with tad too much an introspective mind."
I am unsure if he is stating that his goal is unachievable because he is too introspective, for example, following church doctrine would be difficult for a person with opinions of their own or maybe he doubts himself and his abilities thus talks himself out of the hope of achievement.
Or whether he is stating that he should just move on and not dwell on his lost goal.
???

Is that how others read it?


Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Hector Valdez on July 20, 2012, 12:10:39 AM
Stevil hit the nail precisely on its head, I fear.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Sweetdeath on July 20, 2012, 12:32:54 AM
I can speak English, Japanese, Elvish and a bit of Klinganese. But i cannot translate this. Thanks, Stevil!
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Stevil on July 20, 2012, 12:55:19 AM
Couldn't be done - Tim Finn

We had no idea that it couldn't be done
And we needed to find a like minded someone
Who had no idea that it couldn't be done
...

Now the coast is clear and the case has been won
And we've lost our fear that it couldn't be done
All we needed to find a like minded someone
Who had no idea it couldn't be done, no idea
Who said it couldn't be done
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: The Black Jester on July 20, 2012, 12:57:45 AM
Quote from: Stevil on July 20, 2012, 12:55:19 AM
Couldn't be done - Tim Finn

We had no idea that it couldn't be done
And we needed to find a like minded someone
Who had no idea that it couldn't be done
...

Now the coast is clear and the case has been won
And we've lost our fear that it couldn't be done
All we needed to find a like minded someone
Who had no idea it couldn't be done, no idea
Who said it couldn't be done

A nice response to the OP, Stevil.  Well played.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Firebird on July 20, 2012, 02:24:32 AM
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 20, 2012, 12:10:39 AM
Stevil hit the nail precisely on its head, I fear.

Hey, I wasn't far off. Partial credit? :)

Anyway, not trying to downplay how you're feeling. I'm sorry you are, and I've been there. Personally, I moved on to another goal, and later realized the original one wasn't what I wanted anymore anyway (how's that for being vague?)
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 20, 2012, 02:37:53 AM
Wow Stevil, I'm impressed ;D

That's the thing about goal, not all are worth keeping. If there aren't any very clear answers it's because it probably is time to pack up and move on.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Hector Valdez on July 20, 2012, 02:59:01 AM
I actually feel a little better about it right now. I've started a project: writing a book about finance economics, of which I have a good background in.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Siz on July 20, 2012, 08:23:21 AM
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 20, 2012, 02:59:01 AM
I actually feel a little better about it right now. I've started a project: writing a book about finance economics, of which I have a good background in.
...in which I have a good background...?

Good idea!

Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Magdalena on July 22, 2012, 06:18:05 AM
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 14, 2012, 04:07:07 AM
I find it difficult, at times, to maintain momentum over things to which I wish to aspire. The deed I've held to the house of hope I so fervently to occupy has slipped beyond my grasp. What's worse, the hand that dropped the paper down the stormdrain knew the fruit of all it's labor. What good is a deed to housing not my own? And so, with such a frequent repitition, do I turn to other projefts. I, perhaps am just an introspective individual, with tad too much an introspective mind.

Yet nothing really changes. I am speaking of my nature, tending towards impulse as it is. But might that fault of mine still lead to greater changes? With hope, it will.


I don't mean to make fun of you at all, but this is what the little monkey in my head is translating as he turns the only wheel in my brain very slowly: :-\

I find it difficult, at times, to maintain momentum over things to which I wish to aspire. Translation:
I can't commit to my goals.

The deed I've held to the house of hope I so fervently to occupy has slipped beyond my grasp.
Translation:
The promised I made to my girlfriend, I cannot keep.

What's worse, the hand that dropped the paper down the stormdrain knew the fruit of all it's labor.
Translation:
She knew how hard I worked to make her happy and didn't appreciate it.

What good is a deed to housing not my own?
Translation:
What's the point?

And so, with such a frequent repitition, do I turn to other projefts.
Translation:
This happens to me all the time, do I look for someone else now?

I, perhaps am just an introspective individual, with tad too much an introspective mind.
Translation:
Maybe I needed to speak more with her, tell her how I felt.

Yet nothing really changes.
Translation:
But it's too late now.

I am speaking of my nature, tending towards impulse as it is.
Translation:
This is who I am, and it is all now just wishful thinking.

But might that fault of mine still lead to greater changes? With hope, it will
Translation:
Hopefully, I have learned from my mistakes, there is a lesson to be learned here, in time, I this will only make me stronger.

How did I do? Am I wayyyy off?  ???
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 22, 2012, 07:43:52 AM
Mental Rorschach?
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Hector Valdez on July 23, 2012, 04:26:16 PM
Quote from: magdalena on July 22, 2012, 06:18:05 AM
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 14, 2012, 04:07:07 AM
I find it difficult, at times, to maintain momentum over things to which I wish to aspire. The deed I've held to the house of hope I so fervently to occupy has slipped beyond my grasp. What's worse, the hand that dropped the paper down the stormdrain knew the fruit of all it's labor. What good is a deed to housing not my own? And so, with such a frequent repitition, do I turn to other projefts. I, perhaps am just an introspective individual, with tad too much an introspective mind.

Yet nothing really changes. I am speaking of my nature, tending towards impulse as it is. But might that fault of mine still lead to greater changes? With hope, it will.


I don't mean to make fun of you at all, but this is what the little monkey in my head is translating as he turns the only wheel in my brain very slowly: :-\

I find it difficult, at times, to maintain momentum over things to which I wish to aspire. Translation:
I can't commit to my goals.

The deed I've held to the house of hope I so fervently to occupy has slipped beyond my grasp.
Translation:
The promised I made to my girlfriend, I cannot keep.

What's worse, the hand that dropped the paper down the stormdrain knew the fruit of all it's labor.
Translation:
She knew how hard I worked to make her happy and didn't appreciate it.

What good is a deed to housing not my own?
Translation:
What's the point?

And so, with such a frequent repitition, do I turn to other projefts.
Translation:
This happens to me all the time, do I look for someone else now?

I, perhaps am just an introspective individual, with tad too much an introspective mind.
Translation:
Maybe I needed to speak more with her, tell her how I felt.

Yet nothing really changes.
Translation:
But it's too late now.

I am speaking of my nature, tending towards impulse as it is.
Translation:
This is who I am, and it is all now just wishful thinking.

But might that fault of mine still lead to greater changes? With hope, it will
Translation:
Hopefully, I have learned from my mistakes, there is a lesson to be learned here, in time, I this will only make me stronger.

How did I do? Am I wayyyy off?  ???

Not bad. Shall I provide an accurate translation?

A house is a symbol for something worked towards over a long period of time. To own a house, one must focus on that goal persistently. The fact that the deed slipped through my grasp means that I have missed my opportunity to achieve said long term goal. The habd knew the fruits of it's laboe. Or: I knew I was screwing up again and again. Everything else is pretty close.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 23, 2012, 07:41:34 PM
Yeah, move on. If it hasn't happened yet it's because it won't.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: Hector Valdez on July 24, 2012, 04:08:16 AM
Silverphinx, I do believe you've mastered mental rohrschach.
Title: Re: Perhaps too introspective.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 24, 2012, 05:45:59 AM
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 24, 2012, 04:08:16 AM
Silverphinx, I do believe you've mastered mental rohrschach.

Did I? Because if I recall, I asked if you lost your house, which isn't quite what you were talking about. I was off, then.

Because for a moment it seemed like you were one more victim of the real estate crash and literally lost your house, and now are looking for solutions in places where you won't find them. Maybe what you've really just done is gone from one religion to another.

It would be cool to master mental Rorschach though. The things I could do. ::)