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Are You a Fascist?

Started by LegendarySandwich, February 15, 2011, 01:12:02 AM

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This is from a Samuel Johnson Wiki
QuoteIn 1774 he printed The Patriot, a critique of what he viewed as false patriotism. On the evening of 7 April 1775, he made the famous statement, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."[8] This line was not, as widely believed, about patriotism in general, but the false use of the term "patriotism" by John Stuart, 3rd Earl of Bute (the patriot-minister) and his supporters; Johnson opposed "self-professed Patriots" in general, but valued what he considered "true" patriotism
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I don't like what I regard as false patriotism either.  When discussions can't be had before a country goes to war, and  opponents are shouted down as traitorous or are too scared to talk, it's not a healthy situation.

Heretical Rants

Quote from: "terranus"
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Quote from: "terranus"That's not Patriotism, that's called "Nationalism". I know they seem like synonyms of each other, but their not. There's a big difference. Patriotism pretty much the love of one's own country,
Yeah, and I don't think all that many people should love their own country. I rather dislike mine.

Note: When I say country, I'm not talking about the government.

Yeah, but I'm planning on emmigrating in 6 years regardless of what the government looks like then.

LegendarySandwich

Quote from: "Heretical Rants"Yeah, but I'm planning on emmigrating in 6 years regardless of what the government looks like then.
Yeah, I think I might move somewhere else to -- either to Seattle (which is only like, a twenty minute drive away) or to another country. Some of the ones I'm considering: Australia, Japan, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, The Netherlands.

Heretical Rants

When I say 6 years, I mean anywhere from 2-6 years. I'd go right now, but I still have to deal with college.

ForTheLoveOfAll

Quote from: "Heretical Rants"
Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"Do you guys mean blind patriotism, or exceptionalism when you say patriotism? Because I can't see how simply loving one's own country is a bad thing.
I'm talking about the "our-country-is-definitely-the-best-in-the-world-and-has-no-problems-whatsoever-and-all-the-others-are-shit-and-you-don't-deserve-to-live-here-if-you-don't-love-this-country-as-much-as-I-do-and-lets-plaster-our-flag-all-over-the-place-and-make-kids-make-pledges-to-them-and-them-immigrants-are-ruining-our-great-nation-gotta-keep-them-out-and-disparage-anyone-who-dissagrees-and-if-you-dissagree-with-my-canidate-you're-unpatriotic-stop-criticising-our-country" garbage.

I don't necessarily know what ForTheLoveOfAll is talking about; I just liked the way he said it.
That's pretty much what I meant, and you're more than welcome to quote me.  :D

I just hate how there's so much hatred put forward just because someone lives a few miles overseas or across a border. We're all citizens of planet EARTH. We are ONE, imho. If we don't figure this out, we'll achieve nothing but cosmic destruction at this rate.

And also, if you criticize the country you are living in or the government you're labeled as unpartiotic or as a conspiracy theorist. Well, you know what? If that's what it takes to point out tyrrany as it's rising up, or even when it's already in plain sight (As it is.), then so be it.
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Will37

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fester30

2.6 a liberal airhead.  And to think I've always voted Republican.

I never thought becoming atheist would change my worldview so much that it would also change my political views.  Without religion, however, I have started to see the value in conflict theory.  I still see some positives to functionalist theory, but I also see now the places where it's flawed.  I guess between two extremes is usually the truth.

Hidelight

Liberal airhead.  Wow there is a shock!

Medusa

You are a liberal airhead 2.2666666666666666 <----still got the Satanist in me. Lol. :D
She has the blood of reptile....just underneath her skin...

OldGit

3.4, but that's misleading.  There are huge areas of politics not mentioned there which concern us greatly today.  Eg immigration, public debt.  On those I would be a lot farther to the right.

Ragnar

Liberal Airhead: 2.6333.

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Gawen

2.4...liberal airhead.

Some of these questions are so lame and vague.
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fyv0h

2.6333333333333333
You are a liberal airhead.

Ha. Airhead... :D
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Sandra Craft

2.2, liberal airhead.  Think I already knew that.
Sandy

  

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Asmodean

Quite a lot of what is defined as liberals here... With many of those scores, one would probably not be quite in that club where I'm from.
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