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Title: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
Post by: Icarus on August 13, 2019, 08:00:22 PM
Here is an almost but not quite philosophical discussion.  There are also some exceptional pictures of bees, almost as good as Tank's close up work.

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/what-is-it-like-to-be-a-bee?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Title: Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
Post by: No one on August 13, 2019, 11:39:27 PM
I don't get what the buzz is all about!
Title: Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
Post by: Tank on August 14, 2019, 08:00:01 AM
I'm told it has a sting in the tail.
Title: Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
Post by: Bad Penny II on August 14, 2019, 09:35:30 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 14, 2019, 08:00:01 AM
I'm told it has a sting in the tail.

Banned for sexism.

Quote from: Icarus on August 13, 2019, 08:00:22 PM
Here is an almost but not quite philosophical discussion.

Here is a most definite philosophical discussion.

Title: Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
Post by: billy rubin on October 18, 2019, 12:50:53 AM
its hard to get into the mind of a bee from the inside, but from the beekeeper's point of view bees definitely have emotions, personalities, and behaviors that reflect them.

maybe the biggest difference is that, to a beekeeper, it isnt the individual bee that isthe unit organism, its the hive. sometime a beekeeper will refer to hive by talking about the queen as if she waz the whole organism, but strictly speaking that isnt true.

a beekeeper might talk about a hive being mean, gentle, preoccupied, unhappy, busy, diztracted, or angry. not the individuals, but the entire colony at once.

a diiferent take on what a bee's mind is like, compared to the individual focus in the link.

i ran a bee outfit for a while, and im thinking of getting back into it.
Title: Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
Post by: Tank on October 18, 2019, 01:47:45 PM
An interesting insight.
Title: Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
Post by: Red_Cloud on October 18, 2019, 02:11:11 PM
"To bee, or not to bee, that is the question"
William Shakespeare
Title: Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
Post by: billy rubin on October 18, 2019, 02:38:13 PM
well , i definitely miss them, so the question is answered for me. i have one swarm in a double box in the front yard i caught this summer, not a big one. but tbe queen was okay and theyve held their own.

i ran a pollination business and raised and sold queens. i worked in california's central valley and coast ranges. i pollinated almonds, apples, cherries, squash. cucumbers, melons, watermelons, pumpkins, broccoli, cauliflower, onions, radishez, cabbage, kale, bok choy zinnias, cardoonz, celery, parsley, parsnips, and probably a number of others i cant remember.

its harder and harder to run bees in america now. competition, loss of locations, low commodity prices and fruit and vegetable imports from mexico and china. i used to sell a box of 100 queens for US$600, postage paid. now that same box is going for US$2800.
Title: Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
Post by: Icarus on October 22, 2019, 06:01:35 AM
 You are indeed a man of many talents BR.
Title: Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
Post by: billy rubin on October 22, 2019, 12:30:00 PM
spread pretty thin though

similar to your story in some ways, i think
Title: Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
Post by: billy rubin on December 26, 2019, 12:19:11 PM
almond poliination prices are way, way up from when i was there;


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We polled a handful of almond growers. Here's what they're paying per hive:

Low: $150

High: $220

Average: $192.27

Just for reference, we know that Joe Traynor is charging $240 this year. Rule of thumb: if you're paying more than this and you're not 100% certain that you've got the best bees on the planet, you're doing something wrong

https://www.thebeecorp.com/post/2019-almond-pollination-prices

this is a hard business to be in. when i started around 25 years back, pollination prices were around $35 for six framez of beez.

traynor's standard was eight frames, but a hive that strong is hard to maintain as early in the year as the almonds bloom. the firzt varietiez might hit february 10th, but most are 10 to 20 days after that.
Title: Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
Post by: Tank on December 26, 2019, 12:59:23 PM
Fascinating.