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Started by Bad Penny II, May 23, 2018, 02:22:14 PM

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Bad Penny II

There's mention (I think) of screening for a religious virus in an Alastair Reynolds novel.
I'm not sure if was a literal or figurative virus.

Anyway, it's for you to say yay or nay.
Things aren't going too good on Earth so we're selling what we have, building an ark and moving to an undisclosed adequate planet.

Do you screen out the religious applicants?
Take my advice, don't listen to me.

Tank

A reverse rapture?

Hell yes!!!
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Bad Penny II

Ye screen em, and those with a susceptibility.


Take my advice, don't listen to me.

Bad Penny II

Quote from: Tank on May 23, 2018, 02:38:19 PM
A reverse rapture?

Hell yes!!!

Will you screen for susceptibility?
Take my advice, don't listen to me.

Tank

If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Bad Penny II

Quote from: Tank on May 23, 2018, 02:52:13 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 23, 2018, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 23, 2018, 02:38:19 PM
A reverse rapture?

Hell yes!!!

Will you screen for susceptibility?
Oh yes! :D

Oh come on, we can inject them with a mutagen.
There could be positive attributes we can harvest from those that avoid their susceptibility.
Take my advice, don't listen to me.

Arturo

This is a strange question. How do you screen for something like that?
It's Okay To Say You're Welcome
     Just let people be themselves.
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Bad Penny II

Quote from: Arturo on May 23, 2018, 06:00:36 PM
This is a strange question.

Yes it is.

Quote from: Arturo on May 23, 2018, 06:00:36 PM
How do you screen for something like that?

With clever sciency sociometric testing.
Can't tell you the details, we don't want undesirables practising for the test.
Take my advice, don't listen to me.

Arturo

Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 24, 2018, 02:39:34 PM
Quote from: Arturo on May 23, 2018, 06:00:36 PM
This is a strange question.

Yes it is.

Quote from: Arturo on May 23, 2018, 06:00:36 PM
How do you screen for something like that?

With clever sciency sociometric testing.
Can't tell you the details, we don't want undesirables practising for the test.

So like Hitler and The Jews?

Or Trump and the Refugees?
It's Okay To Say You're Welcome
     Just let people be themselves.
     Arturo The1  リ壱

Bad Penny II

Quote from: Arturo on May 24, 2018, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 24, 2018, 02:39:34 PM
Quote from: Arturo on May 23, 2018, 06:00:36 PM
This is a strange question.

Yes it is.

Quote from: Arturo on May 23, 2018, 06:00:36 PM
How do you screen for something like that?

With clever sciency sociometric testing.
Can't tell you the details, we don't want undesirables practising for the test.

So like Hitler and The Jews?

Or Trump and the Refugees?

It could be construed so.

I don't want any paedophiles bullies or woman haters, is it OK if I test for them?
Take my advice, don't listen to me.

Arturo

Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 24, 2018, 03:26:22 PM
Quote from: Arturo on May 24, 2018, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 24, 2018, 02:39:34 PM
Quote from: Arturo on May 23, 2018, 06:00:36 PM
This is a strange question.

Yes it is.

Quote from: Arturo on May 23, 2018, 06:00:36 PM
How do you screen for something like that?

With clever sciency sociometric testing.
Can't tell you the details, we don't want undesirables practising for the test.

So like Hitler and The Jews?

Or Trump and the Refugees?

It could be construed so.

I don't want any paedophiles bullies or woman haters, is it OK if I test for them?

Sure but again the question is how? How do you do so with pinpoint accuracy without creating harmful stereotypes or profiling that can be used to arbitrarily execute people at your will?
It's Okay To Say You're Welcome
     Just let people be themselves.
     Arturo The1  リ壱

Tank

Quote from: Arturo on May 24, 2018, 05:32:35 PM
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Sure but again the question is how? How do you do so with pinpoint accuracy without creating harmful stereotypes or profiling that can be used to arbitrarily execute people at your will?

BPII didn't suggest executing anybody, just not taking them.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Bad Penny II

Quote from: Arturo on May 24, 2018, 05:32:35 PM
Sure but again the question is how? How do you do so with pinpoint accuracy without creating harmful stereotypes or profiling that can be used to arbitrarily execute people at your will?

Women haters, they'll share if they think you're one too.
Racists are similar

pinpoint accuracy?
You're an idealist..
Take my advice, don't listen to me.

Arturo

Quote from: Bad Penny II on May 24, 2018, 06:10:25 PM
Quote from: Arturo on May 24, 2018, 05:32:35 PM
Sure but again the question is how? How do you do so with pinpoint accuracy without creating harmful stereotypes or profiling that can be used to arbitrarily execute people at your will?

Women haters, they'll share if they think you're one too.
Racists are similar

pinpoint accuracy?
You're an idealist..

So there is no way to know for sure. There's no replicable way to do so. Reliably.

Quote from: Tank on May 24, 2018, 06:03:35 PM
Quote from: Arturo on May 24, 2018, 05:32:35 PM
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Sure but again the question is how? How do you do so with pinpoint accuracy without creating harmful stereotypes or profiling that can be used to arbitrarily execute people at your will?

BPII didn't suggest executing anybody, just not taking them.
Alright sure. Semantics. It's implied humans will die if they stay on earth. What matters to me is the meaning behind it. In this case the screening is essentially being a Hitler or a Trump. But the one's being persecuted are the religious. Any religious. Only scientific rational minds seem to apply for salvation. The issue I see here is that mostly people of that nature are males. And then there are people who are in between, which would be called sympathizers in eras past. So I'm assuming they won't go either? So essentially there will be a group of mostly guys, being picked by a group of mostly guys. But only certain guys. Because these guys only like a certain type of guy. And if they don't like you, then you will get the pile of shit.
It's Okay To Say You're Welcome
     Just let people be themselves.
     Arturo The1  リ壱

Tank

Quote from: Arturo on May 24, 2018, 07:50:14 PM
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Alright sure. Semantics. It's implied humans will die if they stay on earth. ...

No it's not semantics. It's the Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy. It's not the 'B' arc but arc 42.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.