[Merc]

no racism, tut tut

[Whitney]

Raggy...read the rules.

[Tom62]

Wow... we assumed every Brit LOVES The Office...

They do, generally. Though I'm more into Blackadder, Red Dwarf, League of Gentlemen, Monkey Dust, that sort of stuff. The type of comedy the Office & Peep Show do can either work perfectly or be really awful.

I've managed to watch only two episodes of The Office but I didn't find it funny. There is also a german version of The Office. Rumours have it that it is funnier than the english original, but I don't trust the german critics. Reminds me about a very old joke: "Whats the difference between the Dresden bombing and a German comedian? Only the first thing can make you smile". To make a long story short, I'm also more into the Blackadder and Red Dwarf kind of humour.

[rlrose328]

Though we LOVE LOVE LOVE Steve Carell, we just cannot watch the American version of the Office, either.  I don't find it funny, cringeworthy or whatever.  Now I understand this current season is more amusing than the first two... but we're watching something else during that timeframe, so no bother.

I'm afraid I dont know anything about Red Dwarf or Blackadder... that's Rowan Atkinson, right?  I have limited tolerance for his brand of comedy as well.  When I think of British Comedy, I'm afraid part of me still thinks of Monty Python and nothing else measures up.

[Tom62]

I love Blackadder's first season most, especially the episode  "The Queen of Spain's Beard". Can't get enough of that one. What I also love are the episodes where Rik Mayall play a small role in it. He is by the way one  of my favourite english comedians. Monthy Python had set a high standard as well, but I find taht much of their (TV)work is heavily outdated

[Mister Joy]

Same. And Rik Mayall is great in it yeah. I think he's at his best alongside Ade Edmondson, though. I absolutely hate Mr. Bean. Blackadder's a

Blackadder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts3EOgIkEOA

Red Dwarf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMWgGC82bw

[Raggy]

Is it racism to say that a certain percentage of Americans are obese, or that the French built the Eiffel Tower in 1889? No, they're just facts, and that England is full of evil idiots is also a fact, historically and in the present.

Mister Joy, you are obviously in the 'delusion bubble', just like the Russians when they thought that communism was a good idea, the Iraqi's and their women oppressing ways, or all the primitive cultures that thought white colonizers were some kind of Gods. You are obviously blind to reason and fact thanks to your baseless national pride and brainwashing. Just like when an atheist argues with a fundie, all that will happen is we go round in circles. You are a fundie. For shame.

[Mister Joy]

I don't need to be blind to reason and fact; you haven't provided either for me to see. All you've given is baseless statements: "England is full of *insert*" "the English are evil" "The English this" "The English that." It's nothing but xenophobic whining, and I'm pretty confident that's all you're ever going to give. You plainly don't know anything about the political relationship between the two countries & I realised that to begin with; hence I tried to explain it to you before. Those were the facts. Here are the main ones again, for your benefit:

1: the external link. I'm guessing that in your blaze of righteousness you didn't dare to look.
2: the PM is Scottish (lies! All lies!) as are most of the key figures in the UK Government. Hence no independence for Scotland or parliament for England: our power-hungry Scottish leaders.
3: I want Scotland to be independent because my country would be better off that way. As explained by the fact that...
4: English tax payers subsidise Scotland by billions of pounds a year.

I'm not nationalistic, Rag. And I'm not arguing with you, either. I'm teaching you. You know nothing, so you can pay attention and learn or you can stick to winging like the stubborn, ignorant fool we both know you are. I'm fully comfortable with either.

[Tom62]

Same. And Rik Mayall is great in it yeah. I think he's at his best alongside Ade Edmondson, though.

How true. I bet they never dare to show the TV-Series "The Young Ones", "Bottom" or "Filthy Rich & Catflap"  in the USA.

[pjkeeley]

While we're bashing each other's nationalities...

I've been to England, the mother country, and wow. Your fish and chips suck. They are so horrible and soggy. Like your weather. All English people ever seemed to talk about was how bad the weather is, and for good reason. Your beaches are grey and they made me depressed. Everyone on the whole seemed really irate. Those few sections of the British press not fixated on celebrity gossip can't seem to get over delusions of self-grandeur, completely oblivious to the fact that Britain has long been a second-rate world power and no one cares anymore. Your two main political parties are identical, both in policy and in how useless they are. Your beer is warm, your women are cold and your comedy consists almost entirely of cross-dressing men.

In conclusion: Australia is better than the UK at sport.

 :pirate:

[rlrose328]

Is it racism to say that a certain percentage of Americans are obese, or that the French built the Eiffel Tower in 1889? No, they're just facts, and that England is full of evil idiots is also a fact, historically and in the present.

Were you a little older, you'd know that a statement of fact becomes racism when used as an insult, which you clearly intended your statement to be (as well as the obese Americans statement).  I swear I don't say this often at all, but grow up.  You may be an atheist, but you are acting like as asshole.  

Mister Joy, you are obviously in the 'delusion bubble', just like the Russians when they thought that communism was a good idea, the Iraqi's and their women oppressing ways, or all the primitive cultures that thought white colonizers were some kind of Gods. You are obviously blind to reason and fact thanks to your baseless national pride and brainwashing. Just like when an atheist argues with a fundie, all that will happen is we go round in circles. You are a fundie. For shame.

Do you not realize that by saying Mister Joy is a fundie because he doesn't agree with you that YOU are behaving like a fundie as well?  Not just a fundie, but a religious person in general?  That is THEIR trick, saying one is "blind to the facts of faith" as a means of deflecting the argument.

Again... grow up.  You're on an adult forum and you're acting like a cihld.

[pjkeeley]

Actually, while I agree that Raggy is being an asshat, he isn't being racist. English is not a race.

[Whitney]

I think the word you are looking for is bigot.  

Raggy, this forum is filled with mostly kind freethinkers.  I, and I guess everyone, would like to keep the good vibes going.  I don't know what your problem is but there is no basis for saying that most people in a certain country are evil idiots.  Any rational person knows that we can't even say that of people who live in heavily Muslim concentrated areas....it's not the people it's the leaders.  If you want to bitch about another country's leadership, have at it.  Just quit making yourself look like a moron by thinking that the leaders are always a direct reflection of the people.

I already asked you to read the rules because you are doing a good job of breaking rule one.

[Mister Joy]

How true. I bet they never dare to show the TV-Series "The Young Ones", "Bottom" or "Filthy Rich & Catflap" in the USA.

I don't know if they show them on TV, but you can buy them (though maybe not Filthy Rich & Catflap. If they didn't know much about Thatcher they'd probably miss out on a lot of the humour).

Your fish and chips suck

They vary a lot. Depends where you get them from.

Like your weather.

Yeah, compared to where you live I imagine it does. Though I live in the south-west and it rarely rains here, which is annoying because I quite like it.

All English people ever seemed to talk about was how bad the weather is, and for good reason.

We like to complain, especially to foreigners (because if they aren't English, then they haven't experienced all the wonderful things we get to complain about yet). We're sceptical, negative & unimpressed by anything. And we love it.

Your beaches are grey and they made me depressed.

Everything in Britain will make you depressed unless you're British, in which case there's no place like home. It gives Norway and Alaska a run for their money as far as melancholy setting goes, though, it's true.

Those few sections of the British press not fixated on celebrity gossip can't seem to get over delusions of self-grandeur, completely oblivious to the fact that Britain has long been a second-rate world power and no one cares anymore.

You're right about the celeb gossip. That's why anyone who reads magazines or small time tabloids in the UK & takes them seriously is considered very stupid. But self-grandeur and patriotism is outlawed in Britain (least it is in England), pretty much literally. British media is (supposedly) quite unbiased - BBC in particular is famous for it - but if you ask me it's leaning towards being slightly socialist. You're likely to find that the anti-patriotism far out ways national pride. As I say though, don't know if that's the same for Scotland and Wales but I assume it is.

Your two main political parties are identical, both in policy and in how useless they are.

Got that right. At least regarding the uselessness. You've got to choose the better of two evils, but I'm pretty sure that's the same wherever you go. Anything's better than our current Government. I'd rather my dog ran the country.

Your beer is warm, your women are cold and your comedy consists almost entirely of cross-dressing middle-aged men.

The thing with beer is you need to store it in the fridge. Pubs have it on tap, which is as good as. That's basically the trick to cooling it down, though. Not a whole lot to do with where you are.

Maybe the women didn't find you as attractive as you'd hoped?

And there are three types of British comedy:

Worst kind: romantic. I facking hate Hugh bloody Grant.
mediocre: awkward comedy
best: inane slapstick/slightly weird.

The only cross-dressing comedy I can think of though is the League of Gentlemen, which, I'm guessing, is where you got your assessment from. LOG's funny, you've got to admit. Creepy and disgusting in places, but funny.

[Tom62]

Count me in as well as a Huge Grant hater. Every film he appeared in is a disaster. His movie "Four weddings and a funeral" is one of the most unfunniest films in movie history, even worse than the german comedy "Goodbye Lenin" that also received raving reviews abroad.