Israel Folau is a person of no consequence to me, alas he has egg ball skills so his words are newsworthy. Anyway, he warns "hell awaits drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolators."
No doubt this thread will extend to thirty pages at least so we should define the terms, add other damning behaviour/traits Israel didn't mention.
Drunks: Lots of drunks say they aren't, your standard drink as measured by medical authorities is miserly small.
Homosexual: What if they don't act on their inclination? Stephen Fry tells me most don't do anal, do you have to do anal to be damned? Did God have women in mind too?
Adulterers, Adultery: "Extramarital sex that wilfully and maliciously interferes with marriage relations." That's Wordweb's definition, don't know if god approves of the purple bit. Anyway I've led a pretty dull life in this regard and I'd certainly expect anyone who has enjoyed themselves more than me to be eternally punished, gruesomely.
Liars: They lie.
Fornicators: "Hallucinated sensation that insects or snakes are crawling over the skin; a common side-effect of extensive use of cocaine or amphetamines" What? Ah, no, sorry that's formication, those guys are gotta be damned though.
Fornicators, Fornication: "Voluntary sexual intercourse between persons not married to each other." Homosexuals have only got damned once so far and the straights twice.
Thieves: They take stuff, pseudo stuff even, maybe, I don't know god's view on intellectual property.
Atheists: We know what they are.
Idolators: God doesn't like you liking other stuff because he doesn't think you'll be able to like him as much as he deserves, SO STOP LIKING OTHER STUFF, NOW!
I think I'm five times damned.
Seven
Oh come on, I'm not a,, because of,,,
If I'm going to be eternally damned I should do some more of that,
It's a bother though
Ye, we'll just have another glass of stout
Your mortal sins even out, more of one, less of another.
Ye I suppose.
69.
420
I think I meant to mean in how many damned categories do you fit, not how many instances of stuff you've done you know god'd disapprove of.
If you've offended god in 420 different ways, I'd like to hear of them, for research purposes.
Well in that case, from the list I can put
Homosexual
Fornicators
Atheist
Lying
From the bad things not on the list but in the bible,
I cut my hair
I wear multiple fabrics
I eat shellfish
Damned ∞
But it's all according to the god's plan.
1. drunks
I drank almost every day since I was 20, with exceptions like time out to sea in the Navy and a few times when I didn't drink at all for years. Didn't get drunk every day, though. What's the fun in that? I drink a 4 ounce glass of wine at night before bed now, but I woke up with a headache this morning, so I'll see what happens when I don't. Might be a synergistic combination of Tylenol, melatonin and the wine. I will figure it out and desist using the offending party. All three are recent additions. I quit drinking beer to reduce calories and the number of times I get up at night.
2. homosexuals
Fire is my paraphilia, not men
3. adulterers
I have one wife, that's trouble enough ;D
4. liars
I never lie. Well, just this once
5. fornicators
All those women I raw dogged with before I got married enjoyed it, too. Can't give you a number, though. Ref #1
6. thieves
Do hubcaps off the neighbor's cars count?
7. atheists
Damned
8. idolators
Not guilty
I wonder how many said egg-ball player does, and if he cleverly left out beating his women?
drunks
homosexuals
adulterers
liars
fornicators
thieves
atheists
idolators
hair cutters
multiple fabric wearers
shellfish eaters
Yoga pants. Thugs. Witches.
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Quote from: Magdalena on April 17, 2019, 05:43:45 PM
Yoga pants. Thugs. Witches.
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LOL I tick seven of those boxes
I got six, seven if I can add in "thug," I guess I need to try harder.
The guy's shirt! (Black Lives Don't matter)
...And his hat! (Jesus is my boss)
:picard facepalm:
Definitely four from the original list. Maybe five, I'm sure I must have stolen something at least once, I just can't remember what.
Maybe seven from the yoga pants list. I'm not sure if I qualify for pot smoking, I only tried it once and didn't even get the munchies. So I was probably smoking oregano.
Quote from: Buddy on April 17, 2019, 05:56:23 PM
LOL I tick seven of those boxes
Don't forget usury.
QuoteLateran III decreed that persons who accepted interest on loans could receive neither the sacraments nor Christian burial.[11] Pope Clement V made the belief in the right to usury a heresy in 1311, and abolished all secular legislation which allowed it.[12] Pope Sixtus V condemned the practice of charging interest as "detestable to God and man, damned by the sacred canons, and contrary to Christian charity."
Some might say you can charge foreigners interest but God told me HE regards that as nit picky loopholery and he frowns on it; most of the time.
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 18, 2019, 02:06:19 AM
Quote from: Buddy on April 17, 2019, 05:56:23 PM
LOL I tick seven of those boxes
Don't forget usury.
QuoteLateran III decreed that persons who accepted interest on loans could receive neither the sacraments nor Christian burial.[11] Pope Clement V made the belief in the right to usury a heresy in 1311, and abolished all secular legislation which allowed it.[12] Pope Sixtus V condemned the practice of charging interest as "detestable to God and man, damned by the sacred canons, and contrary to Christian charity."
Some might say you can charge foreigners interest but God told me HE regards that as nit picky loopholery and he frowns on it; most of the time.
So...Should we add,
Bank Owner with High-Interest Rates, to the list of the damned? :notsure:
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 17, 2019, 05:30:47 PM
drunks
homosexuals
adulterers
liars
fornicators
thieves
atheists
idolators
hair cutters
multiple fabric wearers
shellfish eaters
Just wondering whether the number of different, usually anonymous, homosexual acts count as one sin, or whether they add up.
Otherwise, I only get a six.
Quote from: Davin on April 17, 2019, 06:21:25 PM
I got six, seven if I can add in "thug," I guess I need to try harder.
Quote from: Sandra Craft on April 18, 2019, 01:20:05 AM
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I'm not sure if I qualify for pot smoking, I only tried it once and didn't even get the munchies.
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Quote from: hermes2015 on April 18, 2019, 04:54:20 AM
Just wondering whether the number of different, usually anonymous, homosexual acts count as one sin, or whether they add up.
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Quote from: Magdalena on April 18, 2019, 06:07:12 AM
Quote from: Davin on April 17, 2019, 06:21:25 PM
I got six, seven if I can add in "thug," I guess I need to try harder.
Quote from: Sandra Craft on April 18, 2019, 01:20:05 AM
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I'm not sure if I qualify for pot smoking, I only tried it once and didn't even get the munchies.
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Quote from: hermes2015 on April 18, 2019, 04:54:20 AM
Just wondering whether the number of different, usually anonymous, homosexual acts count as one sin, or whether they add up.
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Judging by Larry's expression, I am doomed.
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 18, 2019, 04:54:20 AM
Just wondering whether the number of different, usually anonymous, homosexual acts count as one sin, or whether they add up.
Otherwise, I only get a six.
There's a meme going around where Satan reminds us all that you go to Hell whether you commit one sin or 1,000 sins, so you may as well commit 1,000,000 sins and enter Hell a legend.
Quote from: Sandra Craft on April 18, 2019, 07:56:06 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on April 18, 2019, 04:54:20 AM
Just wondering whether the number of different, usually anonymous, homosexual acts count as one sin, or whether they add up.
Otherwise, I only get a six.
There's a meme going around where Satan reminds us all that you go to Hell whether you commit one sin or 1,000 sins, so you may as well commit 1,000,000 sins and enter Hell a legend.
According to William Blake "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom...You never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough."
I must be a very wise man by now.
Quote from: Magdalena on April 18, 2019, 06:07:12 AM
Quote from: Davin on April 17, 2019, 06:21:25 PM
I got six, seven if I can add in "thug," I guess I need to try harder.
Quote from: Sandra Craft on April 18, 2019, 01:20:05 AM
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I'm not sure if I qualify for pot smoking, I only tried it once and didn't even get the munchies.
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Quote from: hermes2015 on April 18, 2019, 04:54:20 AM
Just wondering whether the number of different, usually anonymous, homosexual acts count as one sin, or whether they add up.
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^^^ :snicker:
I'd certainly be damned for homosexuality, although the degree to which depends on what counts. If in terms of actions, I wouldn't be damned that much (thanks to all of those years spent squarely in love with my ex, but we weren't really together... It was complicated. There hasn't been much action, okay?), but if we're going into my thoughts, OMG, I would be so damned.
Lying. Everyone has lied. It's just a fact of life, so to have someone damned for that seems kind of silly for me. That is until you get into proud, harmful liars like Trump. But, as the evangelicals are so adamant of, Trump is God's chosen president and is an exemplary Godly man. So I really don't know what to say.
I'm an atheist, obviously. (So, I'm not worried about being damned. And honestly, a God that condones slavery and sexism, but would damn someone for being homosexual is not worth spending eternity with anyway)
That's it, I guess. I don't drink or do drugs, at all. Adultery and fornication don't really apply to me at this point. There are probably obscure sins in the Bible that I've committed. You know, the ones that Christians don't care about, because they only care about the ones that further their homophobic, sexist, etc. narratives.
https://twitter.com/s8n/status/657319692550434816?lang=en
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Quote from: Davin on April 18, 2019, 10:06:49 PM
https://twitter.com/s8n/status/657319692550434816?lang=en
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This sounds like Trump's night time prayers. :visit morpheus:
Damned to the bone
Damned to the bone
D-d-d-d-d-d-d-damned
D-d-d-d-d-d-d-damned
D-d-d-d-d-d-d-damned
Damned to the bone
:devil:
^ ;D
My favorite quote is "By now I'm just making my hand basket pretty."
Quote from: Buddy on April 19, 2019, 03:12:55 PM
My favorite quote is "By now I'm just making my hand basket pretty."
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As a child, when I still believed, I knew that I was going to hell because I considered the god-botherers my enemies, and not without reason. The Holy Ghost can take a flying fuck at the Moon. (Just as an insurance policy, I try to make sure to commit the one unforgivable sin (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Matthew+12%3A31-32&version=NIV) every once in a while. A somewhat puerile reverse Pascal's Wager, if you will. I never bothered to count, since once is supposedly enough.)