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Community => Social Issues and Causes => Topic started by: jumbojak on July 07, 2019, 11:23:35 PM

Title: Autism
Post by: jumbojak on July 07, 2019, 11:23:35 PM
I saw this on the way to work earlier this week and it really touched me:

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/66026165_2291357274293736_4653804344632672256_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQlAqmN3YJgaJHCAF53BtOP4etfjIedTEdS4tKWIhe32QvXoSBuFt98MQVMJUyuNYU1ruXKRO1iGhOFFAsY26EQ_&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-3.fna&oh=b79f4cf47093a691d586c75aa1e45acd&oe=5DC54DE6)

I recently watched a Ramsey Dewey video where he touched on the subject of autism in children in the most inspiring and generous way that I have ever heard. Someone asked his thoughts on vaccines causing autism in children. I suspect it was an attempt to trap him in taking an odd position.

His response? He opened by saying, "So what?" He didn't go into the scientific and political debate. He simply asked what's so wrong with being autistic, and I thought that was really beautiful.

We get so caught up in the idea of being normal, of our kids and our family and our friends being normal that I think a lot of people forget that even the most unusual folks have value. They have a lot of love to give and are worth loving in return.

So, whoever put that on their car earned a lot of respect from me, even if I never meet them. Whether they are a parent, grandparent, aunt or uncle, or just someone who sees value and inspiration in a child who a lot of people wouldn't want.

Sorry if that's a bit random. I haven't been thinking very clearly the last few days.
Title: Re: Autism
Post by: Icarus on July 08, 2019, 12:05:14 AM
That is much more than a random thought JJ.  You are thinking more clearly than a those people who have a deficit of compassion or appreciation for those who are not quite the same as "us".
Title: Re: Autism
Post by: Dark Lightning on July 08, 2019, 04:08:07 AM
Autism covers a fair range of behaviors or "whatever". It's a sliding scale, and not all of the autistic kids sit rocking in a corner. I've been tested and am "neurotypical", although some people I know claim I am autistic. They just don't know what they are talking about and don't try to understand, they just judge. In any event, good for that person, treating whomever the "hero" is as a real person!
Title: Re: Autism
Post by: jumbojak on July 08, 2019, 01:43:32 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on July 08, 2019, 04:08:07 AM
Autism covers a fair range of behaviors or "whatever". It's a sliding scale, and not all of the autistic kids sit rocking in a corner. I've been tested and am "neurotypical", although some people I know claim I am autistic. They just don't know what they are talking about and don't try to understand, they just judge. In any event, good for that person, treating whomever the "hero" is as a real person!

Don't you hate that?! I was on a date years ago and the girl suggested I get tested for autism. 
Title: Re: Autism
Post by: Tank on July 09, 2019, 12:09:49 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on July 08, 2019, 01:43:32 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on July 08, 2019, 04:08:07 AM
Autism covers a fair range of behaviors or "whatever". It's a sliding scale, and not all of the autistic kids sit rocking in a corner. I've been tested and am "neurotypical", although some people I know claim I am autistic. They just don't know what they are talking about and don't try to understand, they just judge. In any event, good for that person, treating whomever the "hero" is as a real person!

Don't you hate that?! I was on a date years ago and the girl suggested I get tested for autism.

Did you? ;)
Title: Re: Autism
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 13, 2019, 01:04:02 AM
 :love:

The world is certainly more interesting with a neurodiverse population.
Title: Re: Autism
Post by: jumbojak on July 13, 2019, 01:17:11 AM
Quote from: Tank on July 09, 2019, 12:09:49 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on July 08, 2019, 01:43:32 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on July 08, 2019, 04:08:07 AM
Autism covers a fair range of behaviors or "whatever". It's a sliding scale, and not all of the autistic kids sit rocking in a corner. I've been tested and am "neurotypical", although some people I know claim I am autistic. They just don't know what they are talking about and don't try to understand, they just judge. In any event, good for that person, treating whomever the "hero" is as a real person!

Don't you hate that?! I was on a date years ago and the girl suggested I get tested for autism.

Did you? ;)

No, I was offended. Not at the suggestion that I might be autistic, that wouldn't bother me in the slightest, but by the idea that a conversation over appetizers and entrees could be enough to reach that conclusion.
Title: Re: Autism
Post by: Dark Lightning on July 13, 2019, 03:02:52 AM
It makes my stomach churn when I realize what a colossal mess Mr Wakefield made of the world community with regards to his fraudulent "research".  >:(  Disgusting.
Title: Re: Autism
Post by: Tank on July 13, 2019, 11:43:06 AM
Quote from: jumbojak on July 13, 2019, 01:17:11 AM
Quote from: Tank on July 09, 2019, 12:09:49 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on July 08, 2019, 01:43:32 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on July 08, 2019, 04:08:07 AM
Autism covers a fair range of behaviors or "whatever". It's a sliding scale, and not all of the autistic kids sit rocking in a corner. I've been tested and am "neurotypical", although some people I know claim I am autistic. They just don't know what they are talking about and don't try to understand, they just judge. In any event, good for that person, treating whomever the "hero" is as a real person!

Don't you hate that?! I was on a date years ago and the girl suggested I get tested for autism.

Did you? ;)

No, I was offended. Not at the suggestion that I might be autistic, that wouldn't bother me in the slightest, but by the idea that a conversation over appetizers and entrees could be enough to reach that conclusion.

She was probably autistic and looking for a soul mate.
Title: Re: Autism
Post by: Michael1 on October 30, 2019, 08:57:36 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on July 07, 2019, 11:23:35 PM
I saw this on the way to work earlier this week and it really touched me:

(https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/66026165_2291357274293736_4653804344632672256_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQlAqmN3YJgaJHCAF53BtOP4etfjIedTEdS4tKWIhe32QvXoSBuFt98MQVMJUyuNYU1ruXKRO1iGhOFFAsY26EQ_&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-3.fna&oh=b79f4cf47093a691d586c75aa1e45acd&oe=5DC54DE6)

I recently watched a Ramsey Dewey video where he touched on the subject of autism in children in the most inspiring and generous way that I have ever heard. Someone asked his thoughts on vaccines causing autism in children. I suspect it was an attempt to trap him in taking an odd position.

His response? He opened by saying, "So what?" He didn't go into the scientific and political debate. He simply asked what's so wrong with being autistic, and I thought that was really beautiful.

We get so caught up in the idea of being normal, of our kids and our family and our friends being normal that I think a lot of people forget that even the most unusual folks have value. They have a lot of love to give and are worth loving in return.

So, whoever put that on their car earned a lot of respect from me, even if I never meet them. Whether they are a parent, grandparent, aunt or uncle, or just someone who sees value and inspiration in a child who a lot of people wouldn't want.

Sorry if that's a bit random. I haven't been thinking very clearly the last few days.

Thanks my good friend.