This was a response i got today from my friend's friend. I went to high school with a boy named CJ. He's a nice dude who lives in my building. We went to see Spiderman today with HIS friend Tommy.
Tommy and i for some reason got into a discussion about religion. He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
He said he didn't understand people without religion, and don't want a connection to "God."
I didn't really know how to answer him, except "I just want to be left alone. I want to live my life. Take responsibility for my own actions. Leave it up to probability and chance, versus prayer and a 'miracle. I just feel no need to have a connection with something i feel does not exist. I feel no void. No emptyness. I make my own choices in life, not guided by a divinity, as most religious people seem to really need a crutch or else their lives don't feel valid. I don't need to be made valid by a supernatural being made up by old men who herded goats."
He didn't say much after that, except tried to ask where he thought my mother went after her death. I said "Nowhere. I guess she just doesn't exist anywhere, except in my memories and photographs."
I didn't mean for that to sound so 'cold', but that's how i felt.
I find it sadder when people look down at me with sympathy , saying they can't imagine a life without something to believe in.
Sorry for the mini-rant. It's been a day. I just want to stay home in the a/c. I really hate holidays X__x;;;
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
This was a response i got today from my friend's friend. I went to high school with a boy named CJ. He's a nice dude who lives in my building. We went to see Spiderman today with HIS friend Tommy.
Tommy and i for some reason got into a discussion about religion. He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
He said he didn't understand people without religion, and don't want a connection to "God."
I didn't really know how to answer him, except "I just want to be left alone. I want to live my life. Take responsibility for my own actions. Leave it up to probability and chance, versus prayer and a 'miracle. I just feel no need to have a connection with something i feel does not exist. I feel no void. No emptyness. I make my own choices in life, not guided by a divinity, as most religious people seem to really need a crutch or else their lives don't feel valid. I don't need to be made valid by a supernatural being made up by old men who herded goats."
He didn't say much after that, except tried to ask where he thought my mother went after her death. I said "Nowhere. I guess she just doesn't exist anywhere, except in my memories and photographs."
I didn't mean for that to sound so 'cold', but that's how i felt.
I find it sadder when people look down at me with sympathy , saying they can't imagine a life without something to believe in.
Sorry for the mini-rant. It's been a day. I just want to stay home in the a/c. I really hate holidays X__x;;;
You could always ask him how he feels about the possibility his mother might be spending eternity in hell( bearing in mind only God knows what resides in the heart of man and who therefore will be consigned to the tender mercies of Old Nick).
Not having to live for god and eternity, one can live for oneself and the moment, yes? That is nothing to pity, but rather something to look up to, no?
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
I feel bad for him because he sounds like a condescending asshole.
(Okay, I don't really feel bad for him.)
I think you handled that very well. Forgive me for saying this, but I was expecting to read that you ripped him a new body cavity ;) He would have deserved it, but you were very effective with your measured response while sticking to your guns.
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 11:13:35 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
I feel bad for him because he sounds like a condescending asshole.
(Okay, I don't really feel bad for him.)
He was a bit. We had a pretty intelligent conversation-- or so i thought. :<
Quote from: Firebird on July 04, 2012, 11:24:27 PM
I think you handled that very well. Forgive me for saying this, but I was expecting to read that you ripped him a new body cavity ;) He would have deserved it, but you were very effective with your measured response while sticking to your guns.
I didn't feel the need to argue. I just wanted to be honest in how i feel about life. At least living MY life. :D
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
I believe with the advancement of scientific discovery and knowledge that one day humankind will cast aside superstitious beliefs, we will progress to a more enlightened, diverse, accepting and supportive society.
It will be terrific.
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
I believe with the advancement of scientific discovery and knowledge that one day humankind will cast aside superstitious beliefs, we will progress to a more enlightened, diverse, accepting and supportive society.
It will be terrific.
Dream on.
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 12:03:41 AM
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
I believe with the advancement of scientific discovery and knowledge that one day humankind will cast aside superstitious beliefs, we will progress to a more enlightened, diverse, accepting and supportive society.
It will be terrific.
Dream on.
That's a more realistic dream than a God actually existing. :P
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 12:03:41 AM
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
I believe with the advancement of scientific discovery and knowledge that one day humankind will cast aside superstitious beliefs, we will progress to a more enlightened, diverse, accepting and supportive society.
It will be terrific.
Dream on.
Beliefs don't have to be true. It is a belief, so people can't simply tell you are wrong.
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 05, 2012, 12:07:40 AM
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 12:03:41 AM
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
I believe with the advancement of scientific discovery and knowledge that one day humankind will cast aside superstitious beliefs, we will progress to a more enlightened, diverse, accepting and supportive society.
It will be terrific.
Dream on.
That's a more realistic dream than a God actually existing. :P
There's nothing to choose between ideas of heaven on earth and heaven above earth. All of it is pie in the sky.
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 12:08:15 AM
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 12:03:41 AM
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Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
I believe with the advancement of scientific discovery and knowledge that one day humankind will cast aside superstitious beliefs, we will progress to a more enlightened, diverse, accepting and supportive society.
It will be terrific.
Dream on.
Beliefs don't have to be true. It is a belief, so people can't simply tell you are wrong.
So your belief about beliefs need not be true. In which case it may be that beliefs do have to be true.
I'd probably just say "That's okay, I don't feel sad." and leave it at that.
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 12:08:15 AM
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 12:03:41 AM
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Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
I believe with the advancement of scientific discovery and knowledge that one day humankind will cast aside superstitious beliefs, we will progress to a more enlightened, diverse, accepting and supportive society.
It will be terrific.
Dream on.
Beliefs don't have to be true. It is a belief, so people can't simply tell you are wrong.
So if I say that I believe that creationism is correct you have no response?
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 12:15:30 AM
So if I say that I believe that creationism is correct you have no response?
What do you normally say to creationists?
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 12:17:58 AM
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 12:15:30 AM
So if I say that I believe that creationism is correct you have no response?
What do you normally say to creationists?
I don't know any. But if I did, I would tell them they were sadly mistaken.
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 12:26:44 AM
I don't know any. But if I did, I would tell them they were sadly mistaken.
...and that would be your belief.
My beliefs are based on me, not others.
If AD tells me he believes in god, I won't tell him he is wrong, I might tell him that I don't believe in gods though.
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 05, 2012, 12:14:16 AM
I'd probably just say "That's okay, I don't feel sad." and leave it at that.
Yeah. :)
It felt pointless to pursue it.
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 12:33:10 AM
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 12:26:44 AM
I don't know any. But if I did, I would tell them they were sadly mistaken.
...and that would be your belief.
My beliefs are based on me, not others.
If AD tells me he believes in god, I won't tell him he is wrong, I might tell him that I don't believe in gods though.
Seems a distinction without a difference. You believe that he is wrong.
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 12:54:01 AM
Seems a distinction without a difference. You believe that he is wrong.
He is correct in that he does in fact believe that there is a god.
Unless he is lying of course.
I'm not a hard atheist, I don't have a belief that gods don't exist. I don't even know what the definition is, so I'm ignostic.
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 12:54:01 AM
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 12:33:10 AM
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 12:26:44 AM
I don't know any. But if I did, I would tell them they were sadly mistaken.
...and that would be your belief.
My beliefs are based on me, not others.
If AD tells me he believes in god, I won't tell him he is wrong, I might tell him that I don't believe in gods though.
Seems a distinction without a difference. You believe that he is wrong.
hey guys, let's not pick on AD. I didn't even mention him at all in this thread :P
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 05, 2012, 01:44:15 AM
hey guys, let's not pick on AD. I didn't even mention him at all in this thread :P
I'm not saying anything bad about him, hopefully I'm being respectful.
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 01:51:08 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 05, 2012, 01:44:15 AM
hey guys, let's not pick on AD. I didn't even mention him at all in this thread :P
I'm not saying anything bad about him, hopefully I'm being respectful.
I don't think you are ^^
I just feel weird speaking of people when they aren't around, I suppose.
Carry on~ *smokes bubble pipe*
I think you handled it well, no need to go to their level when they say the most clueless things.
Anyways, he never knows. Might so happen that one day he finds himself "sad with nothing to believe in."
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 12:33:10 AM
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 12:26:44 AM
I don't know any. But if I did, I would tell them they were sadly mistaken.
...and that would be your belief.
My beliefs are based on me, not others.
If AD tells me he believes in god, I won't tell him he is wrong, I might tell him that I don't believe in gods though.
You are conflating two different points here. I can tell a creationist that he is mistaken, because the facts are there in the ohysical world. Of course I am stating what I believe to be the case, as he is. That's axiomatic assuming we are representing ourselves truly. It is trite to say he is correct in that he believes what he believes. The issue is not whether he thinks he is right but whether in fact he is wrong.
You believe that you cannot tell AD that you believe he is wrong , because you do not believe there is definitely no such thing as a Christian god. I can tell him that I believe he is wrong so far as we can tell because in my view the Christian God is not logically possible and therefore it makes no sense to believe in something for which there is no positive evidence and very strong negative evidence.
"Its sad you don't have anything to believe in" blah blah blah blah blah tell me something you have thought of yourself, why is it always the same verbal diarrhea and what they are really saying is their own fears but thinking they are saying something cleaver, you could have picked him apart from that but certainly nice of you not to as I wouldn't have been. There is one thing I can't stand is people being condescending, especially from those that haven't read the book or even engage in the religion they say they believe in.
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 11:50:53 PM
Quote from: Firebird on July 04, 2012, 11:24:27 PM
I think you handled that very well. Forgive me for saying this, but I was expecting to read that you ripped him a new body cavity ;) He would have deserved it, but you were very effective with your measured response while sticking to your guns.
I didn't feel the need to argue. I just wanted to be honest in how i feel about life. At least living MY life. :D
That's a perfect response, I couldn't have done better myself. Well done for keeping your cool.
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 11:50:53 PM
Quote from: Firebird on July 04, 2012, 11:24:27 PM
I think you handled that very well. Forgive me for saying this, but I was expecting to read that you ripped him a new body cavity ;) He would have deserved it, but you were very effective with your measured response while sticking to your guns.
I didn't feel the need to argue. I just wanted to be honest in how i feel about life. At least living MY life. :D
Plus it might have ruined the film if you had done otherwise.
Quote from: Crow on July 05, 2012, 01:06:10 PM
"Its sad you don't have anything to believe in" blah blah blah blah blah tell me something you have thought of yourself, why is it always the same verbal diarrhea and what they are really saying is their own fears but thinking they are saying something cleaver, you could have picked him apart from that but certainly nice of you not to as I wouldn't have been. There is one thing I can't stand is people being condescending, especially from those that haven't read the book or even engage in the religion they say they believe in.
Haha, i don't get why so many of them spew garbage, but never read the actual book. It boggles me!
It's like trying to review a movie you only saw a 2 minute trailer for.
Quote from: Tank on July 05, 2012, 01:36:44 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 11:50:53 PM
Quote from: Firebird on July 04, 2012, 11:24:27 PM
I think you handled that very well. Forgive me for saying this, but I was expecting to read that you ripped him a new body cavity ;) He would have deserved it, but you were very effective with your measured response while sticking to your guns.
I didn't feel the need to argue. I just wanted to be honest in how i feel about life. At least living MY life. :D
That's a perfect response, I couldn't have done better myself. Well done for keeping your cool.
Why thank ya, Tank :)
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 05, 2012, 04:58:41 AM
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 01:51:08 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 05, 2012, 01:44:15 AM
hey guys, let's not pick on AD. I didn't even mention him at all in this thread :P
I'm not saying anything bad about him, hopefully I'm being respectful.
I don't think you are ^^
I just feel weird speaking of people when they aren't around, I suppose.
Carry on~ *smokes bubble pipe*
I'm ok being used as a hypothetical situation... ;)
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on July 05, 2012, 04:07:08 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 05, 2012, 04:58:41 AM
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 01:51:08 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 05, 2012, 01:44:15 AM
hey guys, let's not pick on AD. I didn't even mention him at all in this thread :P
I'm not saying anything bad about him, hopefully I'm being respectful.
I don't think you are ^^
I just feel weird speaking of people when they aren't around, I suppose.
Carry on~ *smokes bubble pipe*
I'm ok being used as a hypothetical situation... ;)
Aww~
Welcome back, AD.
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 05, 2012, 04:51:47 PM
Aww~
Welcome back, AD.
Thx. I've been lurking just about daily.
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on July 05, 2012, 04:07:08 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 05, 2012, 04:58:41 AM
Quote from: Stevil on July 05, 2012, 01:51:08 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 05, 2012, 01:44:15 AM
hey guys, let's not pick on AD. I didn't even mention him at all in this thread :P
I'm not saying anything bad about him, hopefully I'm being respectful.
I don't think you are ^^
I just feel weird speaking of people when they aren't around, I suppose.
Carry on~ *smokes bubble pipe*
I'm ok being used as a hypothetical situation... ;)
You were selected on the basis that you were a theist you actually could have a conversation with, so it is an implied compliment.
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 05:38:49 PM
You were selected on the basis that you were a theist you actually could have a conversation with, so it is an implied compliment.
Any compliment I can get from HAF is well earned/deserved. ;)
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on July 05, 2012, 06:23:23 PM
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 05:38:49 PM
You were selected on the basis that you were a theist you actually could have a conversation with, so it is an implied compliment.
Any compliment I can get from HAF is well earned/deserved. ;)
You know AD, you ought to have some badge just for being one of the few theists to stick around long enough to reach almost 2000 posts. ;D
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 05, 2012, 08:46:15 PM
You know AD, you ought to have some badge just for being one of the few theists to stick around long enough to reach almost 2000 posts. ;D
If it was forced, I'd say maybe, yes. But I genuinely like HAF and the people here. It's not been very difficult at all so far.
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on July 05, 2012, 06:23:23 PM
Quote from: En_Route on July 05, 2012, 05:38:49 PM
You were selected on the basis that you were a theist you actually could have a conversation with, so it is an implied compliment.
Any compliment I can get from HAF is well earned/deserved. ;)
I do enjoy conversations with AD.
I hope that doesn't sound odd. :D
Well done, SD. Nicely played. :)
I once had an acquaintance say something very similar to me - he said "you don't believe in God? Why don't you believe in something? Everyone should believe in something. That's what gives us hope."
I didn't really know what to say and didn't want to get into an argument, so what slipped out of my mouth was "you're right. I do believe something. I believe I'll have another coffee. That'll wake me up, and that gives me great hope. Excuse me please." and I made my exit, since I needed to go anyhow. :P
When I can't manage serious as eloquently as you managed to, SD, I go for goofy or corny. Sigh.
Quote from: Amicale on July 07, 2012, 02:10:38 AM
Well done, SD. Nicely played. :)
I once had an acquaintance say something very similar to me - he said "you don't believe in God? Why don't you believe in something? Everyone should believe in something. That's what gives us hope."
I didn't really know what to say and didn't want to get into an argument, so what slipped out of my mouth was "you're right. I do believe something. I believe I'll have another coffee. That'll wake me up, and that gives me great hope. Excuse me please." and I made my exit, since I needed to go anyhow. :P
When I can't manage serious as eloquently as you managed to, SD, I go for goofy or corny. Sigh.
aw, thanks Amicale. :)
i think it's sad someone needs a deity to believe in for hope rather than the actions of other human beings.
It's just so bloody *illogical*, the argument from wishful thinking.
It would be so bleak and horrid if there were no god.
I couldn't bear that.
Therefore god must exist.
It's an insult to human reason, and it drives me fucking MAAAAD!
Quote from: OldGit on July 11, 2012, 10:14:53 AM
It's just so bloody *illogical*, the argument from wishful thinking.
It would be so bleak and horrid if there were no god.
I couldn't bear that.
Therefore god must exist.
It's an insult to human reason, and it drives me fucking MAAAAD!
I like helping old pepple btw :)
So if you ever need help crossing the street~
^ ratbag! :D
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 11, 2012, 10:52:36 PM
So if you ever need help crossing the street~
...Or locating your fake teesh on the bus ;D
Quote from: Asmodean on July 12, 2012, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 11, 2012, 10:52:36 PM
So if you ever need help crossing the street~
...Or locating your fake teesh on the bus ;D
We got him a string for his spoon. Maybe we can get him a string for his teeth?
^ ^^ Ratbags, the lot of you! :D
Quote from: OldGit on July 12, 2012, 02:43:19 PM
^ ^^ Ratbags, the lot of you! :D
Well, in The Asmo's case, gray rat droppings. ;D
If you think rat droppings are bad, you should see cavy poops. They're like mini factories...
Eh, what's all this about now, eh?
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 14, 2012, 04:17:33 PM
Eh, what's all this about now, eh?
Rat poop/guinea pig poop, a comparative study.
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
This was a response i got today from my friend's friend. I went to high school with a boy named CJ. He's a nice dude who lives in my building. We went to see Spiderman today with HIS friend Tommy.
Tommy and i for some reason got into a discussion about religion. He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
He said he didn't understand people without religion, and don't want a connection to "God."
I didn't really know how to answer him, except "I just want to be left alone. I want to live my life. Take responsibility for my own actions. Leave it up to probability and chance, versus prayer and a 'miracle. I just feel no need to have a connection with something i feel does not exist. I feel no void. No emptyness. I make my own choices in life, not guided by a divinity, as most religious people seem to really need a crutch or else their lives don't feel valid. I don't need to be made valid by a supernatural being made up by old men who herded goats."
He didn't say much after that, except tried to ask where he thought my mother went after her death. I said "Nowhere. I guess she just doesn't exist anywhere, except in my memories and photographs."
I didn't mean for that to sound so 'cold', but that's how i felt.
I find it sadder when people look down at me with sympathy , saying they can't imagine a life without something to believe in.
Sorry for the mini-rant. It's been a day. I just want to stay home in the a/c. I really hate holidays X__x;;;
As Atheist we have truth to believe in. I personally believe in science, physics, and provable truths through the scientific method. I do not believe in myths and hopes based on primitive goat herding nomads who answered most of their questions on nature by reverting back to ancient sun gods. If you friend takes the time to read his holy book and see how absurd it is he might wake up and see reality.
Quote from: cncracer on July 15, 2012, 12:31:46 PM
As Atheist we have truth to believe in. I personally believe in science, physics, and provable truths through the scientific method. I do not believe in myths and hopes based on primitive goat herding nomads who answered most of their questions on nature by reverting back to ancient sun gods. If you friend takes the time to read his holy book and see how absurd it is he might wake up and see reality.
Hmm. :) I understand exactly what you're saying, and I'm absolutely with you on the not believing in old myths. And I don't mean to nitpick, but I don't personally "believe in" science. "Provable truths" can change, and do. I accept current scientific theories that are well established given the current evidence we have for them, but if that evidence were to change and the scientific concepts/theories themselves were to be modified, I wouldn't be devastated. :) Even the atheist 'pet favourite', evolution - say in 25 years, scientists come out with concrete evidence that evolutionary theory as we previously knew it was either dead wrong or developed very, very differently than we'd thought, I'd accept it and continue on.
It's the process of science and critical thought that I personally value, not the specific conclusions themselves. Although, as theories/current conclusions go, I'd say we currently have some pretty good ones! :) I do think that's part of the fun and the joy of appreciating science. We're always learning new things. We're not so wedded to the 'provable truths'/ideas that they can't change; in fact, science always refines its ideas based on new evidence... which is one thing religion never really does, unfortunately.
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on July 14, 2012, 04:32:41 PM
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 14, 2012, 04:17:33 PM
Eh, what's all this about now, eh?
Rat poop/guinea pig poop, a comparative study.
Basic science (science for the sake of science). :D
Don't take this as me dissing basic science, btw. ;D Um...something useful and practical might come out of it.
Mathematics is better than science. [/Obvious inflammatory remark] :)
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 16, 2012, 05:48:50 PM
Mathematics is better than science. [/Obvious inflammatory remark] :)
The Asmo > math.
Quote from: Asmodean on July 16, 2012, 05:56:56 PM
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 16, 2012, 05:48:50 PM
Mathematics is better than science. [/Obvious inflammatory remark] :)
The Asmo > math.
How does the Asmo quantify himself? :D
^^My guess would be that he quantifies himself in comparison to whatever else is being discussed, with "greater than" being the constant.
Asmo>(insert anything here)
Asmo>Cadbury Creme Eggs
Asmo>lamps
Asmo>Quantum Physics
Asmo>those shoes that are supposed to give your bottom an extra workout while you walk
Asmo>pinatas
And so on.
Quote from: Ali on July 16, 2012, 06:52:46 PM
^^My guess would be that he quantifies himself in comparison to whatever else is being discussed, with "greater than" being the constant.
Asmo>(insert anything here)
Asmo>Cadbury Creme Eggs
Asmo>lamps
Asmo>Quantum Physics
Asmo>those shoes that are supposed to give your bottom an extra workout while you walk
Asmo>pinatas
And so on.
Also, The Asmo > The Asmo.
The Asmos are, as stated, quantified in Gt [Greater than]
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 16, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
That is mind-boggling.
Ah! You see, this here is The Asmo Paradox, which mathematically demonstrates that The Asmo's greatness is infinite.
Quote from: Ali on July 16, 2012, 06:52:46 PM
Asmo>pinatas
What happens when it's an Asmo pinata?
And what comes OUT of the Asmo pinata? :o
Quote from: Amicale on July 16, 2012, 08:59:16 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 16, 2012, 06:52:46 PM
Asmo>pinatas
What happens when it's an Asmo pinata?
And what comes OUT of the Asmo pinata? :o
Rage.
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 16, 2012, 09:02:41 PM
Quote from: Amicale on July 16, 2012, 08:59:16 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 16, 2012, 06:52:46 PM
Asmo>pinatas
What happens when it's an Asmo pinata?
And what comes OUT of the Asmo pinata? :o
Rage.
QuoteTragedy strikes a local children's birthday party when 11 year old Johnny Johnson struck an Asmo Pinata and unleashed the Rage within. There were no survivors.
Quote from: Ali on July 16, 2012, 09:05:27 PM
QuoteTragedy strikes a local children's birthday party when 11 year old Johnny Johnson struck an Asmo Pinata and unleashed the Rage within. There were no survivors.
Straight from the news, that. :D
Quote from: Asmodean on July 16, 2012, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 16, 2012, 09:05:27 PM
QuoteTragedy strikes a local children's birthday party when 11 year old Johnny Johnson struck an Asmo Pinata and unleashed the Rage within. There were no survivors.
Straight from the news, that. :D
Now that's news.
On slight topic: I freakin love cadbury eggs!
DYKT all the Cadburys raw milk chocolate they use in their products in the UK is made at Marlbrook, about 5 miles up the road from me?
Quote from: OldGit on July 17, 2012, 09:03:06 AM
DYKT all the Cadburys raw milk chocolate they use in their products in the UK is made at Marlbrook, about 5 miles up the road from me?
*-* Oh, really?
I would so have the urge to sneak into that factory.
Quote from: Ali on July 16, 2012, 09:05:27 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 16, 2012, 09:02:41 PM
Quote from: Amicale on July 16, 2012, 08:59:16 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 16, 2012, 06:52:46 PM
Asmo>pinatas
What happens when it's an Asmo pinata?
And what comes OUT of the Asmo pinata? :o
Rage.
QuoteTragedy strikes a local children's birthday party when 11 year old Johnny Johnson struck an Asmo Pinata and unleashed the Rage within. There were no survivors.
LOL! :D
Quote from: Ali on July 16, 2012, 09:05:27 PM
QuoteTragedy strikes a local children's birthday party when 11 year old Johnny Johnson struck an Asmo Pinata and unleashed the Rage within. There were no survivors.
Much like Being John Malkovich, all they could say at the bitter end were "Asmo!"
Quote from: Firebird on July 17, 2012, 10:04:03 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 16, 2012, 09:05:27 PM
QuoteTragedy strikes a local children's birthday party when 11 year old Johnny Johnson struck an Asmo Pinata and unleashed the Rage within. There were no survivors.
Much like Being John Malkovich, all they could say at the bitter end were "Asmo!"
Hahahahahhahahahha. That's an awesome mental picture. Everybody with Asmo heads saying "Asmo Asmo Asmo. Asmo? Asmo!"
Quote from: Ali on July 17, 2012, 10:44:29 PM
Quote from: Firebird on July 17, 2012, 10:04:03 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 16, 2012, 09:05:27 PM
QuoteTragedy strikes a local children's birthday party when 11 year old Johnny Johnson struck an Asmo Pinata and unleashed the Rage within. There were no survivors.
Much like Being John Malkovich, all they could say at the bitter end were "Asmo!"
Hahahahahhahahahha. That's an awesome mental picture. Everybody with Asmo heads saying "Asmo Asmo Asmo. Asmo? Asmo!"
love this ;D
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
He said he didn't understand people without religion, and don't want a connection to "God."
Yeah, I'm going out on a limb here and say that he didn't really feel bad for you, he just saw an opportunity to do the Superior Dance while attempting to make you feel bad for not being a believer. There's really no other reason to say something like that.
That sort of response from a Christian generally finds me bringing out my verbal championship dart set. Very few things make me angrier than someone being condescending to me. Especially if they're riding the intellectual short bus.
I applaud your self control and your ability to rise above his taunt.
Quote from: Non Quixote on July 18, 2012, 06:37:53 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
He sad he felt bad for me because i had "nothing to believe in."
He said he didn't understand people without religion, and don't want a connection to "God."
Yeah, I'm going out on a limb here and say that he didn't really feel bad for you, he just saw an opportunity to do the Superior Dance while attempting to make you feel bad for not being a believer. There's really no other reason to say something like that.
That sort of response from a Christian generally finds me bringing out my verbal championship dart set. Very few things make me angrier than someone being condescending to me. Especially if they're riding the intellectual short bus.
I applaud your self control and your ability to rise above his taunt.
Haha, thank you very much. I like how high up they think they are on the intelligence and noble bar.
"You pitiful, disgusting schmuck. I feel sorry for you, you baby pissant, and whoever told you of the propriety of your awful, awful words, because not only will you rot in hell for your unfounded superiority complex, but I will see you there. Furthermore, we are going to be close, close friends in the divine opera. I will be the evil puppet master, while you will be my tiny, helpless, marionnette."
On a side note, did you know that the function of x such that f(x) = {x | x = -+a/-+b} where both a and b are prime constants or prime additive inverse constants, produces a really fucked up graph?
Hmm. I can fuck up a graph without f(x) = {x | x = -+a/-+b}.
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 23, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
On a side note, did you know that the function of x such that f(x) = {x | x = -+a/-+b} where both a and b are prime constants or prime additive inverse constants, produces a really fucked up graph?
Define "fucked up" ???
Quote from: Asmodean on July 25, 2012, 06:27:16 AM
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 23, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
On a side note, did you know that the function of x such that f(x) = {x | x = -+a/-+b} where both a and b are prime constants or prime additive inverse constants, produces a really fucked up graph?
Define "fucked up" ???
I hope it's a pie graph. Mm, pie.. :D
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 26, 2012, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on July 25, 2012, 06:27:16 AM
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 23, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
On a side note, did you know that the function of x such that f(x) = {x | x = -+a/-+b} where both a and b are prime constants or prime additive inverse constants, produces a really fucked up graph?
Define "fucked up" ???
I hope it's a pie graph. Mm, pie.. :D
Did you know that the pie chart was invented by Florence Nightingale?
Quote from: Tank on July 26, 2012, 04:01:07 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 26, 2012, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on July 25, 2012, 06:27:16 AM
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 23, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
On a side note, did you know that the function of x such that f(x) = {x | x = -+a/-+b} where both a and b are prime constants or prime additive inverse constants, produces a really fucked up graph?
Define "fucked up" ???
I hope it's a pie graph. Mm, pie.. :D
Did you know that the pie chart was invented by Florence Nightingale?
I did not O_O!
That's pretty damn cool. :)
Quote from: Tank on July 26, 2012, 04:01:07 PM
Did you know that the pie chart was invented by Florence Nightingale?
Wiki disputes that, but I haven't checked the references:
The earliest known pie chart is generally credited to William Playfair's Statistical Breviary of 1801, in which two such graphs are used.[1][2] This invention was not widely used at first;[1] the French engineer Charles Joseph Minard was one of the first to use it in 1858, in particular in maps where he needs to add information in a third dimension.[21] It has been said that Florence Nightingale invented it, though in fact she just popularised it and she was later assumed to have created it due to the obscurity of Playfair's creation.[22]
One of William Playfair's pie charts in his Statistical Breviary, depicting the proportions of the Turkish Empire located in Asia, Europe and Africa before 1789.
Minard's map using pie charts to represent the cattle sent from all around France for consumption in Paris (1858).
Quote from: Tank on July 26, 2012, 04:01:07 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 26, 2012, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on July 25, 2012, 06:27:16 AM
Quote from: RenegeReversi on July 23, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
On a side note, did you know that the function of x such that f(x) = {x | x = -+a/-+b} where both a and b are prime constants or prime additive inverse constants, produces a really fucked up graph?
Define "fucked up" ???
I hope it's a pie graph. Mm, pie.. :D
Did you know that the pie chart was invented by Florence Nightingale?
BBC did a series on diagrams a while back, including Nightingale's chart. There were on others such as Leonardo DaVinci, Carl Sagan and the diagram of the discovery of DNA paper. Well worth the watch. :)
If I had invented it, it wouldn't be called the Pie Chart, but the Pizza Chart for sure. ;D
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 27, 2012, 12:30:01 AM
Quote from: Tank on July 26, 2012, 04:01:07 PM
Did you know that the pie chart was invented by Florence Nightingale?
Wiki disputes that, but I haven't checked the references:
The earliest known pie chart is generally credited to William Playfair's Statistical Breviary of 1801, in which two such graphs are used.[1][2] This invention was not widely used at first;[1] the French engineer Charles Joseph Minard was one of the first to use it in 1858, in particular in maps where he needs to add information in a third dimension.[21] It has been said that Florence Nightingale invented it, though in fact she just popularised it and she was later assumed to have created it due to the obscurity of Playfair's creation.[22]
One of William Playfair's pie charts in his Statistical Breviary, depicting the proportions of the Turkish Empire located in Asia, Europe and Africa before 1789.
Minard's map using pie charts to represent the cattle sent from all around France for consumption in Paris (1858).
Well, wiki can be edited by anyone...,so...
I've also heard that Florence Nightingale invented the pie-chart, so if it's not true, it's well-known.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Nightingale#Statistics_and_sanitary_reform
QuoteStatistics and sanitary reform
Florence Nightingale exhibited a gift for mathematics from an early age and excelled in the subject under the tutorship of her father. Later, Nightingale became a pioneer in the visual presentation of information and statistical graphics.[28] She used methods such as the pie chart, which had first been developed by William Playfair in 1801. While taken for granted now, it was at the time a relatively novel method of presenting data.[29]
Indeed, Nightingale is described as "a true pioneer in the graphical representation of statistics", and is credited with developing a form of the pie chart now known as the polar area diagram,[30] or occasionally the Nightingale rose diagram, equivalent to a modern circular histogram, in order to illustrate seasonal sources of patient mortality in the military field hospital she managed. Nightingale called a compilation of such diagrams a "coxcomb", but later that term would frequently be used for the individual diagrams. She made extensive use of coxcombs to present reports on the nature and magnitude of the conditions of medical care in the Crimean War to Members of Parliament and civil servants who would have been unlikely to read or understand traditional statistical reports.
"Diagram of the causes of mortality in the army in the East" by Florence Nightingale.
In her later life Nightingale made a comprehensive statistical study of sanitation in Indian rural life and was the leading figure in the introduction of improved medical care and public health service in India. In 1858 and 1859 she successfully lobbied for the establishment of a Royal Commission into the Indian situation. Two years later she provided a report to the commission, which completed its own study in 1863. "After 10 years of sanitary reform, in 1873, Nightingale reported that mortality among the soldiers in India had declined from 69 to 18 per 1,000".[30]
In 1859 Nightingale was elected the first female member of the Royal Statistical Society and she later became an honorary member of the American Statistical Association.
It would appear that FN didn't invent the pie chart but a popular variation thereof.
'Farting Flo', as they called her, was also a founder member of the British Women's synchronised farting association. Her squad took a gold at the Much Wenlock games in 1893.
Quote from: OldGit on July 27, 2012, 10:44:42 AM
'Farting Flo', as they called her, was also a founder member of the British Women's synchronised farting association. Her squad took a gold at the Much Wenlock games in 1893.
Weren't there allegations she had used her medical expertise to enhance her performance by the illegal use of Sennapods? Created a bit of a stink if I recall correctly.
That's right. It all came out OK in the end.
Quote from: OldGit on July 27, 2012, 01:15:25 PM
That's right. It all came out OK in the end.
It did create a lot of noise, however. Some people just have a nose for drawing attention to themselves.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 27, 2012, 03:39:21 PM
Quote from: OldGit on July 27, 2012, 01:15:25 PM
That's right. It all came out OK in the end.
It did create a lot of noise, however. Some people just have a nose for drawing attention to themselves.
You mean drawing other people's noses to themselves?
In my experiences, sometimes I don't know how to react or respond to people when they start telling me they feel sorry for me. But you handled that nicely & what you said was great :)
To be honest, I feel like when he finally asked about where your mom went when she died was kind of like trying to find a way to put salt in the wound he thought he created (but doesnt exist cuz you answered like a boss ;) ). Bringing moms into the conversation is usually a desperate move. Lol
Quote from: musicality on July 28, 2012, 09:40:29 AM
In my experiences, sometimes I don't know how to react or respond to people when they start telling me they feel sorry for me. But you handled that nicely & what you said was great :)
To be honest, I feel like when he finally asked about where your mom went when she died was kind of like trying to find a way to put salt in the wound he thought he created (but doesnt exist cuz you answered like a boss ;) ). Bringing moms into the conversation is usually a desperate move. Lol
Too many theists are too nearly insufferable! If they would only let us live in peace, mind their own damned business, it would be one of earths pleasures. Nooooh! So many of them seem to believe in their obligation to inculcate their fervently held beliefs, for the everlasting benefit, of unwilling rationalists. Little do they know that they are suffering an almost incurable disease; the god virus. The tragedy of the god virus is that it is invisible and leaves the victim incapable of recognizing their own debilitating sickness.
That, and have you seen the pope's hat? >:(
Quote from: Asmodean on August 08, 2012, 11:12:39 AM
That, and have you seen the pope's hat? >:(
Yeah, what's up with that?
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 08, 2012, 05:02:28 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on August 08, 2012, 11:12:39 AM
That, and have you seen the pope's hat? >:(
Yeah, what's up with that?
No idea the bible seems to be rather anti male covering there head. Actually that reminds me why don't christian women keep their head covered anymore, femanists you may want to avert your eyes at this bible passage as it may make your blood boil. Plus it's seriously illogical at the end.
Quote from: Corinthians 11:4-16
Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
Quote from: Corinthians 11:4-16
For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
I'm no doctor, but the last time I checked women gave birth to most people. :P
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on August 09, 2012, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Corinthians 11:4-16
For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
I'm no doctor, but the last time I checked women gave birth to most people. :P
Feminist lies! >:(
Quote from: Asmodean on August 09, 2012, 01:00:41 AM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on August 09, 2012, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Corinthians 11:4-16
For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
I'm no doctor, but the last time I checked women gave birth to most people. :P
Feminist lies! >:(
She's a WITCH!
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on August 09, 2012, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Corinthians 11:4-16
For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
I'm no doctor, but the last time I checked women gave birth to most people. :P
I'm going to have to check wikipedia for those facts.
Quote from: Crow on August 09, 2012, 01:06:15 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on August 09, 2012, 01:00:41 AM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on August 09, 2012, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Corinthians 11:4-16
For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
I'm no doctor, but the last time I checked women gave birth to most people. :P
Feminist lies! >:(
She's a WITCH!
Cue Monty Python... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g)
Quote from: Crow on August 09, 2012, 01:06:15 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on August 09, 2012, 01:00:41 AM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on August 09, 2012, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Corinthians 11:4-16
For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
I'm no doctor, but the last time I checked women gave birth to most people. :P
Feminist lies! >:(
She's a WITCH!
A FEMINIST witch! >:(
Quote from: Asmodean on August 09, 2012, 12:50:15 PM
Quote from: Crow on August 09, 2012, 01:06:15 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on August 09, 2012, 01:00:41 AM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on August 09, 2012, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Corinthians 11:4-16
For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
I'm no doctor, but the last time I checked women gave birth to most people. :P
Feminist lies! >:(
She's a WITCH!
A FEMINIST witch! >:(
Someone called? ;)
Quote from: Sweetdeath on August 10, 2012, 12:12:38 AM
Someone called? ;)
Why, yes... I heard someone was building a huge fire in His Grayness' honor with a long pole in its center, so we are sort of looking for someone to play the part of a witch. :D
Doesn't pay much, but apparently, you are promised 72 new spells to cast in The Gray Realm.
Quote from: Asmodean on August 10, 2012, 12:49:28 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on August 10, 2012, 12:12:38 AM
Someone called? ;)
Why, yes... I heard someone was building a huge fire in His Grayness' honor with a long pole in its center, so we are sort of looking for someone to play the part of a witch. :D
Doesn't pay much, but apparently, you are promised 72 new spells to cast in The Gray Realm.
Huzzah!!
I can't wait. I can be the Asmo's mage/spell caster.