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Started by Lark, June 25, 2018, 12:51:35 PM

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Lark

How long does 'new' stay New ????

Dave

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Quote from: Lark on June 25, 2018, 12:51:35 PM
How long does 'new' stay New ????

568 years (so far) if it is the New Inn in Gloucester.

Also a frame of reference is needed - I am still finding ancient Greek (etc) knowledge that is new to me!

Got an example, Lark? How long has "New Wave" been going now, since the 70s?
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Dragonia

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. ~ Plato (?)

Dave

One day for bread?
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xSilverPhinx

As long as it takes for the brain to process what is 'new' and for what is 'new' to become familiar. :grin:

I don't know exactly how long that is, though...the time it takes to consolidate information into a memory depends on several factors.
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


No one

Everything old is new again.

Dragonia

Dude, this question should be in the philosophy section... :far out:
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xSilverPhinx

Quote from: Dragonia on June 26, 2018, 02:40:16 AM
Dude, this question should be in the philosophy section... :far out:

I agree. :)
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


xSilverPhinx

I was watching an interview yesterday in which this very question came up and one of the commentators drew a distinction between velho (which means 'old') and antigo (also meaning old, though something more along the lines of 'antique' or 'ancient'). He mentioned that things that are 'antigo' may be old but are still relevant, such as the wheel.

So, could what's new also still be relevant? :notsure:  It doesn't make much sense, though...taking the example of the wheel, it's probably one of the oldest inventions of the modern world, yet still one of the most important today.   
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


Dave

Quote from: xSilverPhinx on June 30, 2018, 04:05:17 PM
I was watching an interview yesterday in which this very question came up and one of the commentators drew a distinction between velho (which means 'old') and antigo (also meaning old, though something more along the lines of 'antique' or 'ancient'). He mentioned that things that are 'antigo' may be old but are still relevant, such as the wheel.

So, could what's new also still be relevant? :notsure:  It doesn't make much sense, though...taking the example of the wheel, it's probably one of the oldest inventions of the modern world, yet still one of the most important today.

Er, when did "the modern world" start, Silver? 6000 years ago (possibly)?

The important thing is not age, it's relevance, the wheel is just as relevant now as it wss in ancient Mesopotamia. Grannie's recipé for melon and ginger jam (jello) is as relevant now as when she perfected it.

Some things, like car brakes, improve over time - others, like Microsoft products, get worse!

Anyway, it is still my contention that the wheel was never "invented".
Tomorrow is precious, don't ruin it by fouling up today.
Passed Monday 10th Dec 2018 age 74

xSilverPhinx

Quote from: Dave on June 30, 2018, 04:28:10 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on June 30, 2018, 04:05:17 PM
I was watching an interview yesterday in which this very question came up and one of the commentators drew a distinction between velho (which means 'old') and antigo (also meaning old, though something more along the lines of 'antique' or 'ancient'). He mentioned that things that are 'antigo' may be old but are still relevant, such as the wheel.

So, could what's new also still be relevant? :notsure:  It doesn't make much sense, though...taking the example of the wheel, it's probably one of the oldest inventions of the modern world, yet still one of the most important today.

Er, when did "the modern world" start, Silver? 6000 years ago (possibly)?

The important thing is not age, it's relevance, the wheel is just as relevant now as it wss in ancient Mesopotamia. Grannie's recipé for melon and ginger jam (jello) is as relevant now as when she perfected it.

Some things, like car brakes, improve over time - others, like Microsoft products, get worse!

Anyway, it is still my contention that the wheel was never "invented".

Whoops, yeah, I didn't mean 'modern age', that started around the Renaissance, I think. I was thinking further back.  ;D
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


Bad Penny II

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Do it.
No, they'll throw something at me.
But you're hours ahead so they're unlikely to hit you.
That's easy for you to say, it's hard to hit a figment, so I've found.
Go on, do it.
OK, time is relative.
And not just in the way Einstein meant.
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