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Title: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 02:15:19 AM
I'm going through a bit of a dilemma; I need to choose an author name so that I can be included among other coauthors in a couple of research projects I'm involved in.

It's an important decision as the name I choose will the the one I will be identified by throughout what I hope will be a prosperous career, and it shouldn't be changed midway to avoid confusion. I thought this through and the way I see it I have two choices, I could keep my surname or go with my second middle name as my last name.

To tell the truth, I've already sort of decided to go with my second middle name. Why not my last name like most other people? Because it's extremely common in Portuguese-speaking countries. Coupled with a first name that is just as common I fear it won't make any sort of lasting impression. 

Ok, so I've sort of chosen to go with my second middle name. Now, how do I tell my narcissistic father who is looking for every opportunity to project onto his sons and daughters that I won't be building a career using his last name?  There's a slim chance he won't care much but if I know him I know he'll be deeply offended.

How do I walk on those eggshells?
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: Arturo on May 30, 2017, 03:40:22 AM
Don't care about your father. Your father isn't important. You and your career are important. Fuck your father.
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: Dave on May 30, 2017, 04:07:06 AM
Though I would not out it in quite the terms Arturo has I do tend towards looking after your future interests first.

One though, are surnames in your culture ever "double barrelled"? A hyphen between your second middle name and surname?
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 04:23:59 AM
Quote from: Arturo on May 30, 2017, 03:40:22 AM
Don't care about your father. Your father isn't important. You and your career are important. Fuck your father.

Quote from: Gloucester on May 30, 2017, 04:07:06 AM
Though I would not out it in quite the terms Arturo has I do tend towards looking after your future interests first.

Yeah, which is why I've already chosen to go with the second middle name. If he opposes my decision I would like to tell him to fuck off, though more...amiably.   

QuoteOne though, are surnames in your culture ever "double barrelled"? A hyphen between your second middle name and surname?

:notsure: I'm not sure, though I don't recall ever seeing one. The logic is the same I guess (joining mother's and father's name) but it's not generally hyphenated.
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: Dave on May 30, 2017, 04:35:37 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 04:23:59 AM
Quote from: Gloucester on May 30, 2017, 04:07:06 AM
Though I would not out it in quite the terms Arturo has I do tend towards looking after your future interests first.

Yeah, which is why I've already chosen to go with the second middle name. If he opposes my decision I would like to tell him to fuck off, though more...amiably.   

QuoteOne though, are surnames in your culture ever "double barrelled"? A hyphen between your second middle name and surname?

:notsure: I'm not sure, though I don't recall ever seeing one. The logic is the same I guess (joining mother's and father's name) but it's not generally hyphenated.
Be the first, set a trend!

The use of "y" in Spanish, "Mendoza y Saragosa" an equivalent to the hyphen, is there an equivalent in Portugeuse? I know it is an aristocratic archaism now in Spain but, wtf!
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 04:49:43 AM
Quote from: Gloucester on May 30, 2017, 04:35:37 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 04:23:59 AM
Quote from: Gloucester on May 30, 2017, 04:07:06 AM
Though I would not out it in quite the terms Arturo has I do tend towards looking after your future interests first.

Yeah, which is why I've already chosen to go with the second middle name. If he opposes my decision I would like to tell him to fuck off, though more...amiably.   

QuoteOne though, are surnames in your culture ever "double barrelled"? A hyphen between your second middle name and surname?

:notsure: I'm not sure, though I don't recall ever seeing one. The logic is the same I guess (joining mother's and father's name) but it's not generally hyphenated.
Be the first, set a trend!

The use of "y" in Spanish, "Mendoza y Saragosa" an equivalent to the hyphen, is there an equivalent in Portugeuse? I know it is an aristocratic archaism now in Spain but, wtf!

Heh. Set a trend...I like that. :tellmemore:

:P I don't know,I don't really pay attention to that kind of thing. Maybe in Portugal there might be an "e" connecting some surnames but I don't remember seeing any such construction in Brazil. Here middle names are generally the mother's maiden name and surnames are the father's but there are no hyphens or "e"s.   
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: No one on May 30, 2017, 09:42:04 AM
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Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: OldGit on May 30, 2017, 09:47:23 AM
If it were me, I wouldn't bow to father's ambitions, though I'd try to pacify him.  You have a whole career to come, you don't want to be making such concessions from the start.  Mind you, I don't know your family.
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: Claireliontamer on May 30, 2017, 11:21:48 AM
Your reasons are valid so just explain them to him.  Be upfront and honest and say you've decided on using your middle name as it is more distinctive and may help your career. 
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: No one on May 30, 2017, 09:42:04 AM
Goog L Yeyes. (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.stardock.net%2Fimages%2Fsmiles%2Fthemes%2Fdigicons%2FThumbs%2520Up.png&hash=e8ea77880ad2978fd09f5791a5436d85008666d2)

:lol:

Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 12:36:25 PM
Quote from: OldGit on May 30, 2017, 09:47:23 AM
If it were me, I wouldn't bow to father's ambitions, though I'd try to pacify him.  You have a whole career to come, you don't want to be making such concessions from the start.  Mind you, I don't know your family.

Yeah, I've already made many decisions in order to appease him that I regret, I really don't want to make any more. 
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: Tank on May 30, 2017, 12:39:57 PM
Can you use a stage name, i.e a made up one, as long you use it consistently?
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 12:41:13 PM
Quote from: Claireliontamer on May 30, 2017, 11:21:48 AM
Your reasons are valid so just explain them to him.  Be upfront and honest and say you've decided on using your middle name as it is more distinctive and may help your career.

I just hope he is understanding of my point of view! :sadnod:

I guess I'm afraid. I foresee a lot of emotional blackmailing in the future. ::)
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 12:42:08 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 30, 2017, 12:39:57 PM
Can you use a stage name, i.e a made up one, as long you use it consistently?

I have no idea, I can ask my supervisor that, though I think it isn't ideal.
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: Dave on May 30, 2017, 01:05:26 PM
I know at least one woman who refused to use her married surname professionaly, having become well known with her maiden name. Her new husband did not like it but, wisely,  did not make an issue if it. She was a hard headed senior commodities broker who earned five times his sslary as a senior teacher.

But, when dealing with the emotions of insecure people . . .

Sorry, xSP, made sn assumption there, most narcisistic people I have met seem to be insecure personalities.
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: Tank on May 30, 2017, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 12:42:08 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 30, 2017, 12:39:57 PM
Can you use a stage name, i.e a made up one, as long you use it consistently?

I have no idea, I can ask my supervisor that, though I think it isn't ideal.
Worth a try but if you pick one make sure you google it before you finalise it. You wouldn't want to get confused with a porn star by accident!
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: Claireliontamer on May 30, 2017, 01:37:34 PM
Names really are a pain as a woman, I wish there wasn't this big thing about changing names when you get married.  I kind of wish I'd kept my maiden name when I made the mistake of getting married.
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 03:57:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 30, 2017, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 12:42:08 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 30, 2017, 12:39:57 PM
Can you use a stage name, i.e a made up one, as long you use it consistently?

I have no idea, I can ask my supervisor that, though I think it isn't ideal.
Worth a try but if you pick one make sure you google it before you finalise it. You wouldn't want to get confused with a porn star by accident!

Now that would be tragically funny!
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 04:01:09 PM
Quote from: Gloucester on May 30, 2017, 01:05:26 PM
I know at least one woman who refused to use her married surname professionaly, having become well known with her maiden name. Her new husband did not like it but, wisely,  did not make an issue if it. She was a hard headed senior commodities broker who earned five times his sslary as a senior teacher.

But, when dealing with the emotions of insecure people . . .

Sorry, xSP, made sn assumption there, most narcisistic people I have met seem to be insecure personalities.

In my experience as well.
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: Biggus Dickus on May 30, 2017, 06:13:29 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 02:15:19 AM
I'm going through a bit of a dilemma; I need to choose an author name so that I can be included among other coauthors in a couple of research projects I'm involved in.

It's an important decision as the name I choose will the the one I will be identified by throughout what I hope will be a prosperous career, and it shouldn't be changed midway to avoid confusion. I thought this through and the way I see it I have two choices, I could keep my surname or go with my second middle name as my last name.

To tell the truth, I've already sort of decided to go with my second middle name. Why not my last name like most other people? Because it's extremely common in Portuguese-speaking countries. Coupled with a first name that is just as common I fear it won't make any sort of lasting impression. 

Ok, so I've sort of chosen to go with my second middle name. Now, how do I tell my narcissistic father who is looking for every opportunity to project onto his sons and daughters that I won't be building a career using his last name?  There's a slim chance he won't care much but if I know him I know he'll be deeply offended.

How do I walk on those eggshells?

I think you should go with your second middle name as the last name, that way you never, ever have to worry about changing it; also I think sometimes rather than walking on eggshells, you should just stomp the fuck out of those huevos! 8)


P.S. What is your second-middle name Fernanda?

Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 30, 2017, 11:03:04 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on May 30, 2017, 06:13:29 PM
I think you should go with your second middle name as the last name, that way you never, ever have to worry about changing it; also I think sometimes rather than walking on eggshells, you should just stomp the fuck out of those huevos! 8)

It's what I feel like doing...it's definitely what I feel like doing. I wasn't brought into existence to rub anybody's ego.  :nu-uh:

QuoteP.S. What is your second-middle name Fernanda?

Check your PMs.

Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: Tank on May 31, 2017, 06:57:26 AM
I have discussed this issue with my wife and forget my thought of a stage name. It's frowned upon in academia apparently. 
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: solidsquid on May 31, 2017, 02:00:53 PM
I don't think it's really too big a deal what you pick as long as you don't mind people knowing you by that name professionally.  Even pen names aren't without precedence in professional publications, such as W.S. Gosset using the pen name "Student" when publishing about his t-test.  Albeit, his decision was to circumvent company policy at the time restricting publications by their employees.
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 01, 2017, 01:01:40 AM
Quote from: solidsquid on May 31, 2017, 02:00:53 PM
I don't think it's really too big a deal what you pick as long as you don't mind people knowing you by that name professionally.  Even pen names aren't without precedence in professional publications, such as W.S. Gosset using the pen name "Student" when publishing about his t-test.  Albeit, his decision was to circumvent company policy at the time restricting publications by their employees.

Cool, I didn't know that "Student" wasn't his real name, I just thought it was an odd one to have. 
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 01, 2017, 01:09:52 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 31, 2017, 06:57:26 AM
I have discussed this issue with my wife and forget my thought of a stage name. It's frowned upon in academia apparently.

:chin: Yeah, I don't know anybody who has adopted another name to go by, and don't know why anybody would in the first place, unless there are restrictions as solidsquid mentioned, or they just really hate their name.

That's not the case with me, the only issue I have with my last name is that it's really common. Common is good in some situations, but not in this one, IMO. 
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: Tank on June 01, 2017, 07:01:20 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on June 01, 2017, 01:09:52 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 31, 2017, 06:57:26 AM
I have discussed this issue with my wife and forget my thought of a stage name. It's frowned upon in academia apparently.

:chin: Yeah, I don't know anybody who has adopted another name to go by, and don't know why anybody would in the first place, unless there are restrictions as solidsquid mentioned, or they just really hate their name.

That's not the case with me, the only issue I have with my last name is that it's really common. Common is good in some situations, but not in this one, IMO.
There would be one good reason for having a pseudonym if your name was say, Albert Einstein. That would cause problems  ;D
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: No one on June 01, 2017, 04:13:40 PM
How about Gezuss H Krystt?
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: Claireliontamer on June 01, 2017, 06:49:37 PM
Quote from: solidsquid on May 31, 2017, 02:00:53 PM
I don't think it's really too big a deal what you pick as long as you don't mind people knowing you by that name professionally.  Even pen names aren't without precedence in professional publications, such as W.S. Gosset using the pen name "Student" when publishing about his t-test.  Albeit, his decision was to circumvent company policy at the time restricting publications by their employees.

That is interesting, never knew that about the Student's T-test.
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 02, 2017, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: No one on June 01, 2017, 04:13:40 PM
How about Gezuss H Krystt?

:notsure: I rather like Cheesus better. It's so cheesy, it's great!
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 02, 2017, 12:17:48 PM
I've talked to my supervisor about my dilema and he suggested I keep both (not hyphenated). I'm thinking of going with that as there are no search results in Pubmed or Google Scholar that match it.  8)



-~-

I'm a mess :lol:

If this isn't a case of paralysis by analysis then I don't know what is. :P But I think I've got it figured out now. :smilenod:
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: Dave on June 02, 2017, 12:26:10 PM
Good fir you, xSP,

Hmmm, "paralysis by analysis" . . .

Bin there. Dun that.

But phrase new to me and therefore adopted.
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: hermes2015 on June 02, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
After all, a nose by any other name smells just as well.
Title: Re: Choosing an author name for scientific journals & dealing with the consequences
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 02, 2017, 06:01:14 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18882076_989842757785691_7777790523662507370_n.jpg?oh=58e28f5c8d9328fe9eb7c2ffb7baaa03&oe=59A1DBAF)

Just a couple of days, please.