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Title: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: SisterAgatha on September 27, 2017, 04:30:28 AM
There are ever so many saints in our lovely little Catholic Church!  http://www.catholic.org/saints/stindex.php

In religion class I always try to throw in a little something about the saint of the day!

Who is my favorite saint? It is Saint Francis of course!:  http://armondscavophotography.com/product/saint-francis-of-assisi/

He was a kindly soul who loved animals the poor! Someone who loves Poor People and Animals? If that doesn't scream "saint" I don't know what does..

Please let us all know!
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: No one on September 27, 2017, 04:34:23 AM
Lucifer
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: jumbojak on September 27, 2017, 05:13:07 AM
St. Francis of Isuzu, the patron saint of mechanics.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Magdalena on September 27, 2017, 05:16:59 AM
Let's think about the logic, shall we?
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You're a nun and you're in an atheist forum asking who our favorite saint is...
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 27, 2017, 06:43:55 AM
Quote from: No one on September 27, 2017, 04:34:23 AM
Lucifer

I don't think Lucifer is technically a saint, tho perhaps he should be.

(https://i.imgur.com/THA247i.jpg)  You're welcome.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: No one on September 27, 2017, 06:48:35 AM
Ok then, if not Lucifer, I'll go with Val Kilmer.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 27, 2017, 10:18:18 AM
Oh, I'd go with Lucifer! :computerwave:

Otherwise Joan of Arc. Most probably suffered from a psychotic disorder, but badass.   8)
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 27, 2017, 10:20:50 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on September 27, 2017, 05:16:59 AM
Let's think about the logic, shall we?
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You're a nun and you're in an atheist forum asking who our favorite saint is...

Yes, it is odd, isn't it.

SisterAgatha, you do realise that sainthood in general means not very much to an atheist and non-Catholics, right? :scratch:
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Dave on September 27, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
Suster Agatha wrote:

Quote. . . our lovely little Catholic Church!

Not only is the RC a world wide religious industry, with its own schools, banking system, government, diplomatic and ambassadorial system, soveriegn territory etc etc, but I cannot believe that any true catholic with knowledge and intelligence would use such a phrase.

My skepticometer is back to reading +8/10 at the moment.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 27, 2017, 12:20:59 PM
Quote from: Dave on September 27, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
My skepticometer is back to reading +8/10 at the moment.

Yeah, even mine is triggered at this point.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Dragonia on September 27, 2017, 12:33:04 PM
^^^ yeaaaaahhh..... I am really big on giving people the benefit of the doubt, but this..... this is pretty stupid.
Sister Agatha, you've GOT to be jerking our collective chain.
You sound a bit too peppy and sweet and giggly.....
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 27, 2017, 01:38:49 PM
Quote from: Dave on September 27, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
Suster Agatha wrote:

Quote. . . our lovely little Catholic Church!

Not only is the RC a world wide religious industry, with its own schools, banking system, government, diplomatic and ambassadorial system, soveriegn territory etc etc, but I cannot believe that any true catholic with knowledge and intelligence would use such a phrase.

It's almost like she's being sarcastic. :notsure:

Quote from: Dave on September 27, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
My skepticometer is back to reading +8/10 at the moment.

So is mine, but hers is a unique account, unlikely a sock puppet. Also, it is very likely she really is affiliated with a religious school. If she really is a nun and a teacher, I can't say.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Dave on September 27, 2017, 01:58:27 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on September 27, 2017, 01:38:49 PM
Quote from: Dave on September 27, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
Suster Agatha wrote:

Quote. . . our lovely little Catholic Church!

Not only is the RC a world wide religious industry, with its own schools, banking system, government, diplomatic and ambassadorial system, soveriegn territory etc etc, but I cannot believe that any true catholic with knowledge and intelligence would use such a phrase.

It's almost like she's being sarcastic. :notsure:

Quote from: Dave on September 27, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
My skepticometer is back to reading +8/10 at the moment.

So is mine, but hers is a unique account, unlikely a sock puppet. Also, it is very likely she really is affiliated with a religious school. If she really is a nun and a teacher, I can't say.

Possibly a teenage student, if any alliation at all?
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 27, 2017, 02:08:53 PM
Quote from: Dave on September 27, 2017, 01:58:27 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on September 27, 2017, 01:38:49 PM
Quote from: Dave on September 27, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
Suster Agatha wrote:

Quote. . . our lovely little Catholic Church!

Not only is the RC a world wide religious industry, with its own schools, banking system, government, diplomatic and ambassadorial system, soveriegn territory etc etc, but I cannot believe that any true catholic with knowledge and intelligence would use such a phrase.

It's almost like she's being sarcastic. :notsure:

Quote from: Dave on September 27, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
My skepticometer is back to reading +8/10 at the moment.

So is mine, but hers is a unique account, unlikely a sock puppet. Also, it is very likely she really is affiliated with a religious school. If she really is a nun and a teacher, I can't say.

Possibly a teenage student, if any alliation at all?

Possibly. There does seem to be a degree of naivité to her posts.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Bad Penny II on September 27, 2017, 02:27:43 PM
I'm disappointed there's no new HAF nun.

When in doubt why not just ask "are you really, really really a nun?"
The "really really" bit is important as it removes the opportunity for weaselling.
Undisputedly a direct lie deserves time in the Asmo designed HAF oubliette Gnnnn.

There are nuns that are better humans by my definition than me.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/standing-up-for-the-sisters/news-story/2a32c179922706a52717ba7ef193cbd6?nk=ed4e1ffc75a6a7a36042fd980bf4b63b-1506513985

Catholics run Phinx's hospital, other hospitals, schools, oldie homes, no casinos as far as I know, maybe bingo....

Fuck history, it's history and I find it increasingly difficult to recall.
I don't like the Catholic stance on fucking control, birth control, marriage control, death control, they are rather controlling.

I'm going to prey for a real HAF nun.


Title: Whose the most ridiculous/wrong saint?
Post by: Bad Penny II on September 27, 2017, 02:53:53 PM
Whose the most ridiculous/wrong saint?

As I've said I'm having trouble with history but:-

Pope John Paul II
Beatified    1 May 2011
St. Peter's Square, Vatican City
by Pope Benedict XVI
Title: Re: Who's the most ridiculous/wrong saint?
Post by: Recusant on September 27, 2017, 03:35:14 PM
I'm very happy to see you here again, Bad Penny II! Don't mind admitting that I was starting to become concerned for your well-being. While I'll forgo the use of a hug smiley, nor even a frolic, I hope you won't mind a :hey:.

I like what you've done with this thread and I'll nominate Mother Teresa (http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2016/09/sadistic-religious-fanatic-mother-teresa-was-no-saint/).
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Davin on September 27, 2017, 03:35:28 PM
Pope Alexander VI...

QuoteOn the evening of the last day of October, 1501, Cesare Borgia arranged a banquet in his chambers in the Vatican with "fifty honest prostitutes",[2] called courtesans, who danced after dinner with the attendants and others who were present, at first in their garments, then naked.[3] After dinner the candelabra with the burning candles were taken from the tables and placed on the floor, and chestnuts were strewn around, which the naked courtesans picked up, creeping on hands and knees between the chandeliers, while the Pope, Cesare, and his sister Lucretia looked on. Finally, prizes were announced for those who could perform the act most often with the courtesans, such as tunics of silk, shoes, barrets, and other things.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Biggus Dickus on September 27, 2017, 03:40:54 PM
My favorite is Radagast, who had a strong affinity for, and relationship with wild animals, and who's greatest concern was with the flora and fauna of the world. He was wiser than most men in all things concerning herbs and beasts.
It is also said he spoke the many tongues of the birds, and that he was a "master of shapes and changes of hue".

Title: Re: Who's the most ridiculous/wrong saint?
Post by: Bad Penny II on September 27, 2017, 04:04:42 PM
Quote from: Recusant on September 27, 2017, 03:35:14 PM
I'm very happy to see you here again, Bad Penny II! Don't mind admitting that I was starting to become concerned for your well-being. While I'll forgo the use of a hug smiley, nor even a frolic, I hope you won't mind a :hey:.

I like what you've done with this thread and I'll nominate Mother Teresa (http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2016/09/sadistic-religious-fanatic-mother-teresa-was-no-saint/).

Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Bad Penny II on September 27, 2017, 06:27:55 PM
SisterAgatha are you really, really really a nun?
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Tom62 on September 27, 2017, 07:33:06 PM
Saint Isidore of Seville: Patron Saint of the Internet
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 27, 2017, 09:54:33 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on September 27, 2017, 02:27:43 PM
I'm disappointed there's no new HAF nun.

When in doubt why not just ask "are you really, really really a nun?"
The "really really" bit is important as it removes the opportunity for weaselling.
Undisputedly a direct lie deserves time in the Asmo designed HAF oubliette Gnnnn.

There are nuns that are better humans by my definition than me.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/standing-up-for-the-sisters/news-story/2a32c179922706a52717ba7ef193cbd6?nk=ed4e1ffc75a6a7a36042fd980bf4b63b-1506513985

Catholics run Phinx's hospital, other hospitals, schools, oldie homes, no casinos as far as I know, maybe bingo....

Fuck history, it's history and I find it increasingly difficult to recall.
I don't like the Catholic stance on fucking control, birth control, marriage control, death control, they are rather controlling.

I'm going to prey for a real HAF nun.

Pudding! Err...I mean Bad Penny II! :hey:

Is it too early to say  :welcomeback:? :notsure:

(You should really give us your II cents more often! :grin:)
Title: Re: Whose the most ridiculous/wrong saint?
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 27, 2017, 09:58:27 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on September 27, 2017, 02:53:53 PM
Whose the most ridiculous/wrong saint?

As I've said I'm having trouble with history but:-

Pope John Paul II
Beatified    1 May 2011
St. Peter's Square, Vatican City
by Pope Benedict XVI

Yeah what's up with that? What was his miracle by the way? A ginormous hat balancing act?  :dominidomini:
Title: Re: Whose the most ridiculous/wrong saint?
Post by: Dave on September 27, 2017, 10:07:42 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on September 27, 2017, 09:58:27 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on September 27, 2017, 02:53:53 PM
Whose the most ridiculous/wrong saint?

As I've said I'm having trouble with history but:-

Pope John Paul II
Beatified    1 May 2011
St. Peter's Square, Vatican City
by Pope Benedict XVI

Yeah what's up with that? What was his miracle by the way? A ginormous hat balancing act?  :dominidomini:

Nah, maybe being able to stand up, at an advanced age, in a moving pope-mobile whilst waving with one hand.

Wonder if he could pat his own head whilst simultaneously rubbing his own belly as well?   :chin:
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: No one on September 27, 2017, 10:12:57 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trackie.com%2Ftrack-and-field%2Fimg%2Flayout%2Ficon_quote.jpg&hash=c5a9d5ac5c9c0366d813e18a50510fe9aa16bfc2)Dave:
Wonder if he could pat his own head whilst simultaneously rubbing his own belly as well? 

I think god's word strictly forbids self gratification.
Title: Re: Whose the most ridiculous/wrong saint?
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 27, 2017, 11:33:00 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on September 27, 2017, 02:53:53 PM
Whose the most ridiculous/wrong saint?


I'd vote for St. Agatha of Sicily, the 15 yr old who was martyred by having her breasts removed with pincers [? -- that must have taken a while, and been very clumsy] because she turned down the advances of a Roman prefect.  Apparently her wealthy, powerful family couldn't buy her out of that.   When she died some 5 yrs later (details are sketchy at best) she was made the saint of bell founders.  Because of the breast shape, which is no end of ick-type wrong.  She was later made the saint of other things, some of which made sense (breast cancer, wet nurses) and many of which did not (earthquakes, fire, bread).

I don't see the point of saints at all, they just seem a replacement for multiple gods of this and that.  If you're going to get rid of polytheism, why not go all the way with it?  Be a real revolutionary.
Title: Re: Whose the most ridiculous/wrong saint?
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 28, 2017, 01:06:46 AM
Ratzinger should be beatified as well, look at what he can pull off!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/OugEhpnj40hQ4/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: SisterAgatha on September 28, 2017, 03:41:36 AM
I like this one too !!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_de_Porres
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 04:08:35 AM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on September 28, 2017, 03:41:36 AM
I like this one too !!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_de_Porres
This is so awkward...
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Sister, have you read any of the responses?
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: No one on September 28, 2017, 04:12:09 AM
Reading, and comprehending, are two entirely different things, raps.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 04:12:32 AM
Sistagata:
If you're gonna talk about god, and saints, could you tell me what you know about demons? Do you talk to any of them, the same way you talk to Jesus? What do they normally like to talk about?
~Just curious.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 04:19:23 AM
Quote from: No one on September 28, 2017, 04:12:09 AM
Reading, and comprehending, are two entirely different things, raps.
True.
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Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: OldGit on September 28, 2017, 09:42:23 AM
My favourite saint is St Strombola.  She's patron saint of diarrhoea, explosive vomiting and all kinds of violent and unpleasant discharges.  ;)
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Tank on September 28, 2017, 09:43:25 AM
Quote from: OldGit on September 28, 2017, 09:42:23 AM
My favourite saint is St Strombola.  She's patron saint of diarrhoea, explosive vomiting and all kinds of violent and unpleasant discharges.  ;)

I was wondering when you would join in :D
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: SisterAgatha on September 28, 2017, 02:38:50 PM
Quote
This is so awkward...
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Sister, have you read any of the responses?

I have indeed. And I feel they are only because the people making them are sad and lonesome and outside of Jesus' shining presence!



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Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Dave on September 28, 2017, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on September 28, 2017, 02:38:50 PM

Quote
This is so awkward...
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Sister, have you read any of the responses?

I have indeed. And I feel they are only because the people making them are sad and lonesome and outside of Jesus' shining presence!

:puke:

Skepticometer now on 99.9%



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Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Davin on September 28, 2017, 03:38:30 PM
Sad and lonely like this pope:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_XII
QuoteAfter mutilating some of his enemies, he again was the effective ruler of Rome. Sending Otgar, Bishop of Speyer to the emperor, he attempted to come to some accommodation with Otto, but before anything could come of it, John XII died on 14 May 964. According to Liudprand of Cremona, John died whilst enjoying an adulterous sexual encounter outside Rome, either as the result of apoplexy, or at the hands of an outraged husband.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Recusant on September 28, 2017, 03:57:58 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on September 28, 2017, 02:38:50 PM
QuoteSister, have you read any of the responses?

I have indeed. And I feel they are only because the people making them are sad and lonesome and outside of Jesus' shining presence!

:rofl: :smokin cool:
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 04:17:32 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on September 28, 2017, 02:38:50 PM
Quote
This is so awkward...
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Sister, have you read any of the responses?

I have indeed. And I feel they are only because the people making them are sad and lonesome and outside of Jesus' shining presence!



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Sister... :smileshake:

You must be around Jesus' shinning presence 24/7, yet you've called me, sassy, snarky, sad and lonesome.  :snicker:

Why is there so much hate in your heart? I'm sure Jesus wouldn't like that. Am I, are we, disturbing your holy nerves? 

Just to stir a little more stuff inside of you, you should know that without Jesus' shinning presence I am at peace, and I will never call you names, not because I fear going to the place god sends people who try to hurt others by calling them sassy, snarky, sad and lonesome, but because I simply don't feel like it...today...(I don't know about tomorrow though.) :levitate:
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on September 28, 2017, 04:53:24 PM
Are we certain that the Sister is for real, and not Old Git or Bad Penny or someone else?  Something just doesn't ring true.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: No one on September 28, 2017, 04:55:56 PM


You see raps, those other 5 commandments basically say it's ok to be a douche as long as it's the poor , the gays, or anyone else who doesn't agree with your narrow minded views that you treat with utter animosity.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Recusant on September 28, 2017, 05:05:02 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on September 28, 2017, 04:53:24 PM
Are we certain that the Sister is for real, and not Old Git or Bad Penny or someone else?  Something just doesn't ring true.

I'm as sure as is possible (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=14943.msg360077#msg360077) that the SisterAgatha account is not a sock puppet of anybody on this site. Whether the account was created by an actual Catholic sister cannot be determined, but indications are that it is associated with a particular Catholic institution in the United States.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on September 28, 2017, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: Recusant on September 28, 2017, 05:05:02 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on September 28, 2017, 04:53:24 PM
Are we certain that the Sister is for real, and not Old Git or Bad Penny or someone else?  Something just doesn't ring true.

I'm as sure as is possible (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=14943.msg360077#msg360077) that the SisterAgatha account is not a sock puppet of anybody on this site. Whether the account was created by an actual Catholic sister cannot be determined, but indications are that it is associated with a particular Catholic institution in the United States.

OK, thanks.  Just that something seems strange.  I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Tank on September 28, 2017, 05:34:54 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on September 28, 2017, 04:53:24 PM
Are we certain that the Sister is for real, and not Old Git or Bad Penny or someone else?  Something just doesn't ring true.

I can confirm that SisterAgnes is not a sock puppet as I originally suggested/expected. And you're right (s)he is as much a nun as I am.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on September 28, 2017, 05:37:57 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on September 27, 2017, 04:30:28 AM
There are ever so many saints in our lovely little Catholic Church!  http://www.catholic.org/saints/stindex.php

In religion class I always try to throw in a little something about the saint of the day!

Who is my favorite saint? It is Saint Francis of course!:  http://armondscavophotography.com/product/saint-francis-of-assisi/

He was a kindly soul who loved animals the poor! Someone who loves Poor People and Animals? If that doesn't scream "saint" I don't know what does..

Please let us all know!

Speaking of Francis, do you think Pope Francis is leading the flock astray with heresies about divorced people taking communion or some of the other more liberal positions that he is taking? 
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Biggus Dickus on September 28, 2017, 05:38:53 PM
So sad that I can still remember this prayer: (Well I sort of remembered it, had to look it up to get every single word correct,)

"Angel of God, my guardian dear, to whom God's love commits me here. Ever this day be at my side, to light and guard, to rule and guide. Amen.

We were taught to say this as children, a prayer to the "guardian" angel that is assigned to each and every one of us by god (Yes even you Magdalena has an angel beside you always ::)), as stated in the Roman Catechism: ..."Beside each believer stands an angel as protector and shepherd leading him to life..."

Now there are also demons, which are really angels that decided to follow Lucifer after god announced to legions of angels that they were commanded to adore god's son in a nature inferior to their own, which is the incarnate Word, Jesus Christ.
Before it was to come about, god revealed to all the angels the creation of us men and women, and the incarnation to come (Birth of the baby Jesus), of course the mother of this god-man would be their queen.

The good angels joyfully obeyed and were taken into the beatific vision of the blessed trinity, which they had known before only by faith. The tradition is that two-thirds of the angels obeyed god, and the one third that refused, and chose to follow the rebellious lucifer, were cast into hell.
Now some of these demons are allowed to take their hell with them (Weird) and roam the earth where they can tempt men and women (We atheist must be prime targets for these little devils). Of course so, too the more powerful, good angels, take their heaven with them and roam the earth doing good to both men and women.

Make sense?

Not we get to the saints. Apparently there are over 10,000 saints though I understand there is no official "head" count by the church, but I could be wrong.
We were taught not to pray to saints, but actually with them...they are supposed to intercede on your behalf when you pray with them so as to help your prayers get into heaven or to god, apparently they are sort of like a middle-man (Or woman) and can nudge god's arm when in reach.

In school we used to pray to/with saints all the time, sometimes it was for things lost...Sister Lynn Ann, my 6th grade homeroom teacher was always loosing shit, so she would lead us in daily prayers to St. Anthony. It went something like this, "Saint Anthony, Saint Anthony please pray with us. We have lost something and cannot find it, please help us find our lost _______" We would repeat this litany over and over and over until either the lost item was found or sister berated us and told us to stop, because obviously horrible, sinful children like us weren't getting through to old saint Anthony.

Usually what sister lost was one of our tests or homework. She would state that we had taken the test or homework and hidden them so she couldn't grade us on them because we were such horrible students. After I finished the 6th grade they retired her as she was getting quite unstable even for the the church/school.

She was a wonderful nun, besides accusing us of wrong doing and constantly berating us for being evil, wicked, stupid kids, she liked to hit us with her wooden pointer if we got out of line. If she hit me on the ass it wasn't so bad as she was getting old, and wasn't that strong, but several times she wacked me across the fingers...the last time she got me really good and I had had enough so I jumped up from my desk and yelled out to her, "What the Hell is your problem, that hurt damn it!...this resulted of course in my getting sent to the principles office.
I was sent home and suspended from school for two days. The part that really burned me was I had to apologize to sister upon my return to class for both yelling and cursing at her.

There are also patron saints. When I was in the Army and after I received my Airborne wings my mother (Catholic until she died) sent me a silver chain with an emblem of Saint Michael on it, as he is the patron saint of paratroopers, police, mariners, etc...I was touched by the gift, though I never wore it, but kept in with my personal belongings. When my mother passed away I tucked it into her casket along with a set my paratrooper wings.

All of this, the angels, demons, saints are part of the ridiculous hierarchy of heaven that not only catholics, but most christians believe in.
A hierarchy that has always puzzled me to be quite frankly, because if there is only one god, what are these other beings he has created? They are not human at all, actually they are immortal, and can assume human or any other shape they desire at will and apparently can bend both time and matter at will.

Doesn't this make them gods as well?

So really nothing has changed from the mythological gods of ancient Rome or Greece. You have a top god, and then all of these lesser gods who control or interact with humans as they see fit. It certainly is confusing.

Saints like nuns are far from nice. Remember a recent canonization by Francis in 2015 of Junipero Serra? The man who first brought Catholicism to California. Serra was tied to a systematic institution that decimated the population of Native Americans, and who played big role in obliterating indigenous culture in coastal California.

I'd like to kick the fucker in the balls...
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on September 28, 2017, 05:38:53 PM
We were taught to say this as children, a prayer to the "guardian" angel that is assigned to each and every one of us by god (Yes even you Magdalena has an angel beside you always ::)),
...
My dear, Father Bruno, if this is true, then I'm beginning to think that my guardian angel submitter his/her/it's letter of resignation a long, long time ago.  :sadcheer:
...And so did the ones who were sent to me as a punishment.  :lol:

Maybe my man is an angel for loving me as much as he does.  :notsure: ...Considering I'm a sassy, insolent, and impertinent woman.  :far out:

Thank you for explaining about the demons, which are really angels, as well. Very interesting. Even they want nothing to do with me.  :yes!: :grin:

I'm sorry to hear about the abuse you suffered with Sister Lynn Ann. I can imagine a cute, sweet little boy going through this, and it just makes me sad, and angry. When I met you, many years ago, I posted this GIF. I didn't even know the story you just told us:
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg17.laughinggif.com%2Fpic%2FHTTP2Jsb2cuY2hyb24uY29tL3R1YnVsYXIvZmlsZXMvMjAxNS8wNC8xNDk1MzMtcGVuZ3Vpbi1oaXR0aW5nLWpha2UtYW5kLWVsd29vLTJ1R1kuZ2lm.gif&hash=4dbf99f0cb058aa0f22b1e7e7f60fac5a69652b0)
"What the Hell is your problem, that hurt damn it!...


If angels and demons exist, in your realm, they were speaking to you, through me. (I think that's as close as I'll allow them to get to me.)--Just passing through.  :devil2:
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: OldGit on September 28, 2017, 07:40:35 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub
Are we certain that the Sister is for real, and not Old Git or Bad Penny or someone else?  Something just doesn't ring true.

Sorry, Bruce, it's not me!  But I agree that she's a bit fishy.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 28, 2017, 08:34:33 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on September 28, 2017, 02:38:50 PM
I have indeed. And I feel they are only because the people making them are sad and lonesome and outside of Jesus' shining presence!

Thing is, SisterAgatha, a lot of people, when they reach a certain age, let go of their imaginary friends and cultivate real relationships with real people. Sad and lonesome are those who cling onto a mental simulacrum and think it's real well into adulthood.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Dave on September 28, 2017, 09:11:39 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on September 28, 2017, 08:34:33 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on September 28, 2017, 02:38:50 PM
I have indeed. And I feel they are only because the people making them are sad and lonesome and outside of Jesus' shining presence!

Thing is, SisterAgatha, a lot of people, when they reach a certain age, let go of their imaginary friends and cultivate real relationships with real people. Sad and lonesome are those who cling onto a mental simulacrum and think it's real well into adulthood.

Or, perhaps having left their real family and not being able to cope with the world on their own seek a pseudo-family to feel warm and cosy with. Just so long as they don't go for one of the hellfire and brimstone churches that rule almost every aspect of their lives,, or one that fleeces them of every penny they have (to build mega churches or buy Rolls Royce cars and private aircraft etc) Or join a church where the priests sexually abuse young people and their superiors cover up for them. Or . . .
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 09:40:21 PM
There's a reason you came here, Sister...
This is for you:

:grin:

Edit: Found the version I was looking for.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Biggus Dickus on September 28, 2017, 10:29:33 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 07:31:46 PM


I'm sorry to hear about the abuse you suffered with Sister Lynn Ann. I can imagine a cute, sweet little boy going through this, and it just makes me sad, and angry. When I met you, many years ago, I posted this GIF. I didn't even know the story you just told us:
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg17.laughinggif.com%2Fpic%2FHTTP2Jsb2cuY2hyb24uY29tL3R1YnVsYXIvZmlsZXMvMjAxNS8wNC8xNDk1MzMtcGVuZ3Vpbi1oaXR0aW5nLWpha2UtYW5kLWVsd29vLTJ1R1kuZ2lm.gif&hash=4dbf99f0cb058aa0f22b1e7e7f60fac5a69652b0)
"What the Hell is your problem, that hurt damn it!...


That's Sister Mary Stigmata, a.k.a. The Penguin from the Blues Brothers!!!!
The actress Kathleen Freeman certainly did a great job in that role (That's a great movie by the way) I understand Kathleen in order to prepare for her role as the Penguin did an understudy of a Cuban/Soviet torturer, sadly that is a rather accurate interpretation of a real nun!  8)
Funny, but accurate!


Quote from: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 09:40:21 PM
There's a reason you came here, Sister...
This is for you:

:grin:

Very good choice of video Mags, and from another excellent movie...I thought maybe Sister Agnes was sent by god to tell me something, but seeing how she hasn't responded to either of my posts I'm starting to doubt it. ::)

Most likely as others here have noted she isn't an actual nun, I'm certainly not getting the vibe from her that I usually do when I'm in their presence, but than again maybe she is. It would be cool if she is as maybe she would allow us to ask some honest question on what it was that made her decide to be a nun, does she have regrets, etc...

Speaking of nuns I highly recommend to anyone here the book "Through the Narrow Gate, by Karen Armstrong (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Armstrong). It's a memoir of life inside a Catholic convent. Karen was a sister for some time before leaving the order and is a wonderful author and lecturer. She is probably the most prolific writer of religion and religious history of our time. I've read about 5 of her books. "A History of God", and "Jerusalem: One City, Three Faiths" being two of my favorites and I highly recommend them.

(By the way normal vibe for being near or in the presence of a nun is my heart begins to beat madly, I get cold and I have this desire to hide and cry...sort of similar to how one would react to say being close to a vampire, or swimming with sharks) ;D

Although I have to admit I would probably react the same way if I met Selma Hayek!
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: jumbojak on September 28, 2017, 10:46:43 PM
Serious question Bruno; do you think Selms looks better with, or without, the uni brow?
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Biggus Dickus on September 28, 2017, 10:53:22 PM
Quote from: jumbojak on September 28, 2017, 10:46:43 PM
Serious question Bruno; do you think Selms looks better with, or without, the uni brow?

I gotta go with...it's that whole Frida Kahlo thing, it works for me.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 10:57:22 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on September 28, 2017, 10:29:33 PM
...
Most likely as others here have noted she isn't an actual nun...
This makes her a lying catholic. :foottap:
She should represent "her people" a little bit better.

AND...and, I'm getting tired of all the name calling: :sulk:
Quote from: SisterAgatha on September 28, 2017, 10:13:10 PM
OK. Ill spill the beans ;D!

I did read HDM about a year ago. To be honest I don't see what the whole fuss is about from either the Catholic Church or you jabbering atheists.
...
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Biggus Dickus on September 28, 2017, 11:18:10 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 10:57:22 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on September 28, 2017, 10:29:33 PM
...
Most likely as others here have noted she isn't an actual nun...
This makes her a lying catholic. :foottap:
She should represent "her people" a little bit better.

AND...and, I'm getting tired of all the name calling: :sulk:
Quote from: SisterAgatha on September 28, 2017, 10:13:10 PM
OK. Ill spill the beans ;D!

I did read HDM about a year ago. To be honest I don't see what the whole fuss is about from either the Catholic Church or you jabbering atheists.
...

Well we do jabber sometimes Mags, you know....like that time we was sitting, and jabbering, and drinking, and smoking, and jabbering some more, and then we got like all jibber-jabbery about whether or not women should have to leave the seat up for men's convenience?

That was some jibber-jabbering shit!

Then we went out for beers and tamales 8)

Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Recusant on September 28, 2017, 11:24:57 PM
And to be fair, religious people never jabber. No sir, it just doesn't happen. Jabbering is an atheist specialty, along with baby eating. :P
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 11:32:24 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on September 28, 2017, 11:18:10 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 10:57:22 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on September 28, 2017, 10:29:33 PM
...
Most likely as others here have noted she isn't an actual nun...
This makes her a lying catholic. :foottap:
She should represent "her people" a little bit better.

AND...and, I'm getting tired of all the name calling: :sulk:
Quote from: SisterAgatha on September 28, 2017, 10:13:10 PM
OK. Ill spill the beans ;D!

I did read HDM about a year ago. To be honest I don't see what the whole fuss is about from either the Catholic Church or you jabbering atheists.
...

Well we do jabber sometimes Mags, you know....like that time we was sitting, and jabbering, and drinking, and smoking, and jabbering some more, and then we got like all jibber-jabbery about whether or not women should have to leave the seat up for men's convenience?

That was some jibber-jabbering shit!

Then we went out for beers and tamales 8)
All I remember from that day is the smoking and the beers...nothing else. :notsure:
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 11:34:02 PM
Quote from: Recusant on September 28, 2017, 11:24:57 PM
And to be fair, religious people never jabber. No sir, it just doesn't happen. Jabbering is an atheist specialty, along with baby eating. :P
(https://media.giphy.com/media/dC9DTdqPmRnlS/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: No one on September 28, 2017, 11:46:18 PM
The problem with eating babies is they're not really nourishing. You have to eat 5 or 6 to feel full, plus much like Chinese food, you're hungry again 30 minutes later.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Biggus Dickus on September 28, 2017, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: No one on September 28, 2017, 11:46:18 PM
The problem with eating babies is they're not really nourishing. You have to eat 5 or 6 to feel full, plus much like Chinese food, you're hungry again 30 minutes later.


That's true No one, but I do like them Polish babies, especially stuffed in cabbage along with some pierogies and a side of pickled beets, yummy!
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 29, 2017, 01:56:32 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 28, 2017, 05:34:54 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on September 28, 2017, 04:53:24 PM
Are we certain that the Sister is for real, and not Old Git or Bad Penny or someone else?  Something just doesn't ring true.

I can confirm that SisterAgnes is not a sock puppet as I originally suggested/expected. And you're right (s)he is as much a nun as I am.

Oh, the mental image.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 29, 2017, 02:05:16 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 04:17:32 PM

You must be around Jesus' shinning presence 24/7, yet you've called me, sassy, snarky, sad and lonesome.  :snicker:


It seems weird, but Sister Agatha is reminding me of those white people who get all bent out of shape over black athletes kneeling during the anthem.  I mean, it's a completely peaceful, even poetic, form of protest and yet so many white folks are getting so violently triggered.

And here's our Mags, with hardly a snark or sass in her (maybe some flippant humor, but that's not the same thing) getting called names and being subjected to armchair psychoanalysis.  It's weird; it's reacting to a playful kitten as if it's a hungry lion.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 29, 2017, 02:09:56 AM
Quote from: Father Bruno on September 28, 2017, 10:29:33 PM

Speaking of nuns I highly recommend to anyone here the book "Through the Narrow Gate, by Karen Armstrong (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Armstrong). It's a memoir of life inside a Catholic convent. Karen was a sister for some time before leaving the order and is a wonderful author and lecturer. She is probably the most prolific writer of religion and religious history of our time. I've read about 5 of her books. "A History of God", and "Jerusalem: One City, Three Faiths" being two of my favorites and I highly recommend them.


Seconded -- Armstrong is my favorite writer on religion.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Magdalena on September 29, 2017, 03:30:16 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on September 29, 2017, 02:05:16 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 04:17:32 PM

You must be around Jesus' shinning presence 24/7, yet you've called me, sassy, snarky, sad and lonesome.  :snicker:


It seems weird, but Sister Agatha is reminding me of those white people who get all bent out of shape over black athletes kneeling during the anthem.  I mean, it's a completely peaceful, even poetic, form of protest and yet so many white folks are getting so violently triggered.

And here's our Mags, with hardly a snark or sass in her (maybe some flippant humor, but that's not the same thing) getting called names and being subjected to armchair psychoanalysis.  It's weird; it's reacting to a playful kitten as if it's a hungry lion.
That's beautiful, BooksCatsEtc.
You're beautiful.  :tellmemore:

I think I can handle it.  :snicker:
When "these people" show up at the forum, I like to stand at the door and say:
(https://m.popkey.co/2a35a9/edAge.gif)
If they can't handle me, how will they handle The Asmo?
:haironfire:

:lol:
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 29, 2017, 03:52:34 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on September 29, 2017, 03:30:16 AM

I think I can handle it.  :snicker:
When "these people" show up at the forum, I like to stand at the door and say:
(https://m.popkey.co/2a35a9/edAge.gif)
:lol:

;D  And now I'm dying to know what's in building 433/435?

QuoteIf they can't handle me, how will they handle The Asmo?
:haironfire:

:o  On second thought, I'd pay to see that.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Magdalena on September 29, 2017, 04:41:14 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on September 29, 2017, 03:52:34 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on September 29, 2017, 03:30:16 AM

I think I can handle it.  :snicker:
When "these people" show up at the forum, I like to stand at the door and say:
(https://m.popkey.co/2a35a9/edAge.gif)
:lol:

;D  And now I'm dying to know what's in building 433/435?
I didn't see that.  :rofl:


Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on September 29, 2017, 03:52:34 AM
QuoteIf they can't handle me, how will they handle The Asmo?
:haironfire:

:o  On second thought, I'd pay to see that.
Yes! We should make it Pay-Per-View.
Make some money for the forum!
(https://joshandamyoettle.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/hansel.gif?w=300&h=122)
That would be an epic battle!
After The Asmo, it would be Davin!   
:tellmemore:
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Bad Penny II on September 29, 2017, 11:04:57 AM
Quote from: OldGit on September 28, 2017, 07:40:35 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub
Are we certain that the Sister is for real, and not Old Git or Bad Penny or someone else?  Something just doesn't ring true.

Sorry, Bruce, it's not me!  But I agree that she's a bit fishy.

No it's not me, I've never had a sock puppet.
I've used a different coloured font to do something trollish.
I find all the "is it really Fred?" "are they really real?" stuff tiresome.
Anyway I've chosen to be welcoming so have donned one of my religiopudding outfits, a difficult choice.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Saint?
Post by: Biggus Dickus on September 29, 2017, 01:25:00 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on September 28, 2017, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: No one on September 28, 2017, 11:46:18 PM
The problem with eating babies is they're not really nourishing. You have to eat 5 or 6 to feel full, plus much like Chinese food, you're hungry again 30 minutes later.


That's true No one, but I do like them Polish babies, especially stuffed in cabbage along with some pierogies and a side of pickled beets, yummy!

Sad thing is now I'm primarily a vegetarian, so eating babies is no longer part of my diet :'(

Tried one of those Tofubabies once, but it wasn't that good...texture was just wasn't the same. Plus, since it's made out of tofu it's got no soul, so like what's the point?

Quote from: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 11:32:24 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on September 28, 2017, 11:18:10 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on September 28, 2017, 10:57:22 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on September 28, 2017, 10:29:33 PM
...
Most likely as others here have noted she isn't an actual nun...
This makes her a lying catholic. :foottap:
She should represent "her people" a little bit better.

AND...and, I'm getting tired of all the name calling: :sulk:
Quote from: SisterAgatha on September 28, 2017, 10:13:10 PM
OK. Ill spill the beans ;D!

I did read HDM about a year ago. To be honest I don't see what the whole fuss is about from either the Catholic Church or you jabbering atheists.
...

Well we do jabber sometimes Mags, you know....like that time we was sitting, and jabbering, and drinking, and smoking, and jabbering some more, and then we got like all jibber-jabbery about whether or not women should have to leave the seat up for men's convenience?

That was some jibber-jabbering shit!

Then we went out for beers and tamales 8)
All I remember from that day is the smoking and the beers...nothing else. :notsure:

Funny thing Mags, ever since I stopped drinking I noticed I don't "Jabber" near as much as I used to. I still "Jibber" occasionally, and once in a great while I'll "Jibber-Jabber", but not so much with the "Jabber". :???: