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Science / Re: Permanent revolution
« Last post by No one on Today at 02:32:09 PM »
You can't curtail human stupidity, or their arrogance. Which in my opinion, is why humans deny evolution so vehemently.  There is also the gross miscomprehension of what evolution actually is.

As far as the future of the species. It's a done deal. Whether you're talking homosapiens evolving into the next link in the chain, or the eventual end of it all, the species is going away.
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Science / Re: Permanent revolution
« Last post by Dave on Today at 02:20:34 PM »
Sure, the education process is harmed by stupidity, facts are not. I mean, if time travel is possible, then the science for it already exists, regardless of human ability to understand it.

True, my friend, but the denying of facts in the material world can do material damage. I'm getting out of the philosophical box here and thinking about the future of the species you hate so much.

This applies even more to the environment, hate to admit it but I would concentrate funding on preserving the environment rather than delving into past evolution. Look after genetic research into disease treatment though.
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People shouldn't so forken touchy.
So you get this obvious thing, huf huf impatience.
But you didn't get the three previous obvious things.
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Science / Re: Permanent revolution
« Last post by No one on Today at 02:12:43 PM »
Sure, the education process is harmed by stupidity, facts are not. I mean, if time travel is possible, then the science for it already exists, regardless of human ability to understand it.
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Here's a situation where I think the switch to manual focus makes a lot of sense:


I like that.
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Science / Re: Permanent revolution
« Last post by Dave on Today at 12:53:58 PM »
The validity of evolution is not diminished by stupidity, or the inability to comprehend it.

True, No-one, but the quality of overall education and underdtanding is, unfortunately, diminished by such negative qualities.
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Science / Re: Permanent revolution
« Last post by No one on Today at 11:40:19 AM »
The validity of evolution is not diminished by stupidity, or the inability to comprehend it.
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Laid Back Lounge / Re: Should we talk about the weather?
« Last post by Bluenose on Today at 11:03:56 AM »
Yeah, well it's still bloody cold down here.  The BOM claim it's been a warm winter!  I don't know what they're smoking, but they need to get a new supplier.  I'm over the cold and the wet and the wind.

Ah ye well, that's life in Australias the worlds galaxies universes most liveable city

Nah, Vienna's knocked us off the top spot.  I have always thought that "most liveable city" thing was a crock...
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Science / Re: Permanent revolution
« Last post by Dave on Today at 10:54:24 AM »
Permanent revolution, Nature.com

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To defend evolution against misguided attacks, we need to consider how evolutionary biology is perceived by outsiders.

Attacks on evolution are sadly commonplace, and of themselves hardly worth the attention of an Editorial in this journal. However, the fact that the attacks come from a diverse range of sources is indicative of the cultural divide that can separate scientists from both popular culture and other branches of intellectual opinion. Two recent threats illustrate this point.

The news that Turkey has removed evolution from its school curriculum is depressing but unsurprising. The friction between evolutionary biology and fundamentalist versions of all the Abrahamic faiths is a constant irritant, and new manifestations of it have all to do with the political balance between moderates and extremists, and little to do with any developments in either science or religion. The global situation is made worse by the considerable financial clout of the creationist lobby in the United States, whose international reach has been recently demonstrated by the funding of an Intelligent Design institute in Brazil1. The best that scientists can do is continue to reach out beyond their academic bubble, using all media available to them, and engage patiently with those legislators, religious moderates and members of the public who will listen. The EvoKE team, whom we interviewed recently, is an admirable example of this2... read more via link

Worth a read.

Good find, Tank, thanks for the link. But I am reminded of:



There will always be those who refuse to accept evolution, many of them are in powerful positions. Whilst some nations fall behind through adherence to Genisis etc hopefully others will advance by being open minded. If it gets bad enough and unis are effected they may lose some of the best students, tutors and scientists in important fields. Maybe even companies.
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Science / Permanent revolution
« Last post by Tank on Today at 10:21:49 AM »
Permanent revolution, Nature.com

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To defend evolution against misguided attacks, we need to consider how evolutionary biology is perceived by outsiders.

Attacks on evolution are sadly commonplace, and of themselves hardly worth the attention of an Editorial in this journal. However, the fact that the attacks come from a diverse range of sources is indicative of the cultural divide that can separate scientists from both popular culture and other branches of intellectual opinion. Two recent threats illustrate this point.

The news that Turkey has removed evolution from its school curriculum is depressing but unsurprising. The friction between evolutionary biology and fundamentalist versions of all the Abrahamic faiths is a constant irritant, and new manifestations of it have all to do with the political balance between moderates and extremists, and little to do with any developments in either science or religion. The global situation is made worse by the considerable financial clout of the creationist lobby in the United States, whose international reach has been recently demonstrated by the funding of an Intelligent Design institute in Brazil1. The best that scientists can do is continue to reach out beyond their academic bubble, using all media available to them, and engage patiently with those legislators, religious moderates and members of the public who will listen. The EvoKE team, whom we interviewed recently, is an admirable example of this2... read more via link

Worth a read.
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