Author Topic: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance  (Read 1392 times)

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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2018, 02:19:31 PM »
You learn to deal with it. The point I was trying to get across before I got going was to try to let people be useful. Inactivity is the worst. My dad really got really bad after back surgery put him out of work.

Yes, it makes sense.

Thinking back on it it was not my MI and the thought of a life with a severely damaged heart that got me thoroughly depressed during my three weeks in hospital (the medics thought it was.) It was the almost total lack of occupation. I was not there long enough to qualify for occupational therapy, reading in a busy ward I do not find easy, i was virtually bed bound for all but the last three days and going out of my tiny mind!
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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2018, 07:47:06 PM »
Wow JJ, I'm kind of speechless, but I'm glad you shared that part of your life with us. Thank you, because it can't be pleasant talking about these issues.
I like your thoughts on being needed, and that will always be in the back of my mind now.
I'm glad you're here.
:this:

Very difficult to read. I can only imagine how difficult it is to go through it, JJ.

I admire your courage, telling us your story must have been tough.  A lot of us have painful stories to tell, but some of us are too chicken to share them...Like me...even after being here for 8 years with all these wonderful people. Again, I admire you and I think you belong here with us.

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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2018, 10:15:28 PM »

I don't think many normal folks appreciate just how much a depressed person needs to be depended on. They need to know that somewhere someone is counting on them being at some place or doing some thing. It might not seem like much but letting them pick something up from the store, or take out your trash can be a big help.

Because without that, they'd never bother getting up or getting dressed. They might shower but only so they don't feel greasy and uncomfortable on the couch.

Totally understand this.  It lets us know we're not as useless as we think we are.  Sorry for all the difficulties, sometimes it seems like a rigged system.  I'm glad that at least you can talk to us, even tho we're just words on a screen.
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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2018, 02:44:44 AM »
Wow JJ, I'm kind of speechless, but I'm glad you shared that part of your life with us. Thank you, because it can't be pleasant talking about these issues.
I like your thoughts on being needed, and that will always be in the back of my mind now.
I'm glad you're here.
:this:

Very difficult to read. I can only imagine how difficult it is to go through it, JJ.

I admire your courage, telling us your story must have been tough.  A lot of us have painful stories to tell, but some of us are too chicken to share them...Like me...even after being here for 8 years with all these wonderful people. Again, I admire you and I think you belong here with us.

I've been dealing with this since I was eight or nine years old. I can't remember exactly. Something literally snapped in my head as fat as I can tell. One day I was fine and the next it was hard to be bothered about anything. I tried talking to my parents then but that just landed me in a lot of trouble. What I've written here will probably land me in some hot water sooner or later but I don't care anymore.

Trying to keep busy has led me into some self destructive behavior. The kind of stuff that leads to your family disowning you after you plead the fifth before Congress... I worry too that something I've done will come back to haunt me. Given the current political climate, I'm actually waiting for that particular hammer to drop. It was stupid, short sighted. But I have to own it now. There are times I wish I completely lost my mind like my father did. At least that way you can go back to some semblance of a normal life.
 

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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2018, 03:27:08 AM »
I've never suffered depression. And I can't hope to empathise. Reading all your stories  - and those of many (most?) people around me IRL - makes me think that I might be the exception rather than the norm.

I do wonder if my own dysfunction, walling me off emotionally on many levels, actually insulates me from depression. Being a cynical fucker, any bad news is more likely to evoke a sneer at the world rather than taken inwardly. This was tested recently with the death of my Grandmother whose company I enjoyed more than most in the world. Died in a fire. Probably a horrible way to go. My overriding emotion is relief - all her worldly suffering is over. I'm happy for her - it would be selfish to wish it different. And two other close deaths in 2017, both premature, have not dented my life either other than having to deal with those around me left alive.

...Or maybe it's all just more bricks in the wall?

Is that to be envied or pitied? A double-edged sword I suppose. It would be nice to experience more highs - to let more love into my life, perhaps - but not sure I'd be able to cope with the accompanying lows. Better, I think, to sail an even keel - albeit sitting low in the water. We'll all be dead soon, anyway, so that's a positive, right?!

Meanwhile, I try to be sympathetic to y'all who obviously suffer with depression. Peace.

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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2018, 04:57:43 AM »
...I'm glad that at least you can talk to us, even tho we're just words on a screen.
Wait...wait...

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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2018, 05:00:55 AM »
Wow JJ, I'm kind of speechless, but I'm glad you shared that part of your life with us. Thank you, because it can't be pleasant talking about these issues.
I like your thoughts on being needed, and that will always be in the back of my mind now.
I'm glad you're here.
:this:

Very difficult to read. I can only imagine how difficult it is to go through it, JJ.

I admire your courage, telling us your story must have been tough.  A lot of us have painful stories to tell, but some of us are too chicken to share them...Like me...even after being here for 8 years with all these wonderful people. Again, I admire you and I think you belong here with us.

I've been dealing with this since I was eight or nine years old. I can't remember exactly. Something literally snapped in my head as fat as I can tell. One day I was fine and the next it was hard to be bothered about anything. I tried talking to my parents then but that just landed me in a lot of trouble. What I've written here will probably land me in some hot water sooner or later but I don't care anymore.

Trying to keep busy has led me into some self destructive behavior. The kind of stuff that leads to your family disowning you after you plead the fifth before Congress... I worry too that something I've done will come back to haunt me. Given the current political climate, I'm actually waiting for that particular hammer to drop. It was stupid, short sighted. But I have to own it now. There are times I wish I completely lost my mind like my father did. At least that way you can go back to some semblance of a normal life.
I'm not one hundred percent sure I understand what you just said, but it sounds, "heavy."

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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2018, 06:35:20 AM »
...I'm glad that at least you can talk to us, even tho we're just words on a screen.
Wait...wait...


Well, in your case, gifs on a screen.
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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2018, 08:11:34 AM »
...I'm glad that at least you can talk to us, even tho we're just words on a screen.
Wait...wait...


Well, in your case, gifs on a screen.

We're just words on a screen.
We're gifs on a screen.
We're dust in the wind.





 :grin:

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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2018, 04:52:58 PM »

We're just words on a screen.
We're gifs on a screen.
We're dust in the wind.

:grin:

Now that song is going to be stuck in my head all day, particularly the "ooohhh ooooohhhh ooooohhhh" part.
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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2018, 04:56:54 PM »

We're just words on a screen.
We're gifs on a screen.
We're dust in the wind.

:grin:

Now that song is going to be stuck in my head all day, particularly the "ooohhh ooooohhhh ooooohhhh" part.

I have no idea what you're talking about and hope it stays that way. :grin:
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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2018, 07:33:29 PM »

We're just words on a screen.
We're gifs on a screen.
We're dust in the wind.

:grin:

Now that song is going to be stuck in my head all day, particularly the "ooohhh ooooohhhh ooooohhhh" part.

I have no idea what you're talking about and hope it stays that way. :grin:
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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2018, 05:48:10 PM »
I've had some encounters with mental illnesses as well. Two of my friends and a friendly neighbor suffered from depressions, which made them commit suicide.

My mother developed a cleanliness phobia, when I was about 12 years old. The whole family went than through a living hell (until her early death, 6 years later). I've seen things, that words can hardly describe. Like my mother lying completely drunk and naked on the living room floor; or lying apathetically in bed for many, many days. Professional help  and medication only helped for a short period of time.

Currently my niece is writing a blog, about her life with her dominating, alcoholic father (my brother) and her manic-depressive mother. I've told you about the nasty stuff that my brother had on his hard disk before, but how he treated his wife and his daughter is truly heart breaking. I can't imagine all the horrors, that she went through. Most of it was kept secret, like my sister-in-law two suicide attempts.
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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2018, 08:32:17 PM »
I've had some encounters with mental illnesses as well. Two of my friends and a friendly neighbor suffered from depressions, which made them commit suicide.

My mother developed a cleanliness phobia, when I was about 12 years old. The whole family went than through a living hell (until her early death, 6 years later). I've seen things, that words can hardly describe. Like my mother lying completely drunk and naked on the living room floor; or lying apathetically in bed for many, many days. Professional help  and medication only helped for a short period of time.

Currently my niece is writing a blog, about her life with her dominating, alcoholic father (my brother) and her manic-depressive mother. I've told you about the nasty stuff that my brother had on his hard disk before, but how he treated his wife and his daughter is truly heart breaking. I can't imagine all the horrors, that she went through. Most of it was kept secret, like my sister-in-law two suicide attempts.


That’s so tragic Tom.
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Re: Mental Illness, Stigma and Ignorance
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2018, 08:33:06 PM »
That's truly horrible Tom. :(
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