You as scared as me of Roy Moore be elected to Alabama Senate? Mr. hang the 10 commandments everywhere. Just what we need more right wing Christian nut jobs in the Senate. I don't ever live in Alabama and I donated $20 bucks to keep this A hole out of office. I imagine I am expecting to much from the citizens of the great state of Alabama though! lol
At this point, I'm just numb.
I believe that there are more than a few of us who are scared Curt. We have some deep end Jesus freaks occupying high places. Moore is a shoo in to be elected, We already have Sessions, and Pence who are unabashed theist types. There are platoons of other less prominent religionists in the house and senate.
:Gaah:
Who?
Quote from: Tank on October 01, 2017, 07:10:40 AM
Who?
One of our major theocratic loons, once a chief justice in Alabama, now attempting to go nationwide. The Lawlessness of Roy Moore (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/the-lawlessness-of-roy-moore/541467/)
Quote from: Tank on October 01, 2017, 07:10:40 AM
Who?
Sessions is the former Alabama senator who is now the Attorney General of the United (not so united) States. His replacement senator to be is the honorable fucktard Roy Moore....but only if he wins the replacement election in Alabama...which he surely will. Mike Pence is of course our vice president who is a waaaaay far out christian freak. His part of the Trump campaign was the assurance that he was ; "a Christian, a conservative, and a republican.....in that order".
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on October 01, 2017, 03:22:20 AM
At this point, I'm just numb.
Same. Our federal government is already so full of terrifying nutjobs.
Regardless, it's really important to keep more nutjobs out of local governments even though it feels like we've already hit rock bottom.
He's like a recurring nightmare. He was all over the news years ago with his Ten Commandments bullshit, then refusing to follow the gay marriage ruling, then he got kicked off.
The scary thing is that some political pundits think he's the first in a wave of more hard right challengers to the current Republicans, because they're still not conservative enough for the "base" and donors. Some people see that as opportunity for Democrats to split their vote and win more seats. Of course they said about Trump, and look where that went.
At this point, I think we're on the way to the country splitting apart, because I'm personally sick of these religious fucks controlling our government even though they're in the minority.
You're heading for a theocracy, guys!
Who will be first "Reverend President" I wonder?
Quote from: Dave on October 02, 2017, 02:38:43 PM
You're heading for a theocracy, guys!
Who will be first "Reverend President" I wonder?
I'd imagine it'll be whoever is on charge of their army should they happen to win the war.
Quote from: jumbojak on October 02, 2017, 03:32:51 PM
Quote from: Dave on October 02, 2017, 02:38:43 PM
You're heading for a theocracy, guys!
Who will be first "Reverend President" I wonder?
I'd imagine it'll be whoever is on charge of their army should they happen to win the war.
Hmm, forgot Firedbird's comment about a posdible split . There was talk of "Texit" about a year sgo, but that does not seem to have raied its head lately. They left the union once, wonder if they will be the first to start the rot this time? They are well into Southern Baptist country for a split on religious grounds this time.
(https://imgur.com/4XQ2x6x.jpg)
Normally, I don't agree with the "lesser of two evils" voting ideology, but in this case, I think it's true. Both candidates were shitty options. However, Roy Moore was the greater of the poisons.
Im not terrified one bit.
Since when are the ten commandments controversial?
Is stealing,adutlery, coveting neighbors goods suddenly seen as good? Come on people
I am in Minnesota and I can't wait for some big stone tablets to come up near the capital. It would do Moses proud!
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 02, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
Im not terrified one bit.
Since when are the ten commandments controversial?
Is stealing,adutlery, coveting neighbors goods suddenly seen as good? Come on people
I am in Minnesota and I can't wait for some big stone tablets to come up near the capital. It would do Moses proud!
The United States is not a theocracy, despite the best efforts of contemptible zealots like Moore. That you would ally yourself with him doesn't speak well for your understanding of and respect for the ideals of the United States, as embodied in the US Constitution.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 02, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
Im not terrified one bit.
Since when are the ten commandments controversial?
Is stealing,adutlery, coveting neighbors goods suddenly seen as good? Come on people
I am in Minnesota and I can't wait for some big stone tablets to come up near the capital. It would do Moses proud!
Did you miss the 2nd commandment? Because that shit's hilarious.
How I miss George Carlin.
What I could never understand about religious displays and monuments on public (i.e. government/state) property is why those same displays and monuments can't go on private property? The way some religious carry on, you'd think if they aren't displayed on public property they'd never be seen at all.
The 10 Commandments could be put up in front of churches, private schools, private clubs, etc. Nativity scenes can go up in front of all those places as well as businesses and homes. Why muddy the separation of church and state?
Quote from: Davin on October 02, 2017, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 02, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
Im not terrified one bit.
Since when are the ten commandments controversial?
Is stealing,adutlery, coveting neighbors goods suddenly seen as good? Come on people
I am in Minnesota and I can't wait for some big stone tablets to come up near the capital. It would do Moses proud!
Did you miss the 2nd commandment? Because that shit's hilarious.
Well in a way she did. See, the Catholics
adjusted (http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/command.htm) the Ten Commandments from the Biblical version to their own, in which the second commandment refers not to graven images, but to not taking "the name of the Lord thy God in vain" (comparison (http://www.beliefnet.com/faiths/2007/03/chart-comparing-the-ten-commandments.aspx)).
Quote from: Recusant on October 03, 2017, 06:48:48 AM
Quote from: Davin on October 02, 2017, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 02, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
Im not terrified one bit.
Since when are the ten commandments controversial?
Is stealing,adutlery, coveting neighbors goods suddenly seen as good? Come on people
I am in Minnesota and I can't wait for some big stone tablets to come up near the capital. It would do Moses proud!
Did you miss the 2nd commandment? Because that shit's hilarious.
Well in a way she did. See, the Catholics adjusted (http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/command.htm) the Ten Commandments from the Biblical version to their own, in which the second commandment refers not to graven images, but to not taking "the name of the Lord thy God in vain" (comparison (http://www.beliefnet.com/faiths/2007/03/chart-comparing-the-ten-commandments.aspx)).
There is still the bit in there about graven images, and the "ten commandments" that Moore was ordered to remove had the "Thou shalt not have any graven images" right on it. It's funny how they fought to keep something that their own religion told them not to have and have them still try to argue for it because of their religious beliefs.
In the Protestant version yes, the commandment about graven images is there, but in the Catholic version, no. Both links I gave show that.
It's in the bible that the Catholics use is all I mean.
Quote from: Davin on October 03, 2017, 03:50:21 PM
It's in the bible that the Catholics use is all I mean.
I understand now. Yes of course you're correct.
With Catholicism though, "Tradition" (the supposedly divinely inspired teachings of the church) has equal standing with the Bible (https://www.catholic.com/tract/scripture-and-tradition). According to Catholicism the Bible itself says that scripture alone is not sufficient. This is mostly based on 2 Timothy. From the above source:
QuoteThe Bible denies that it is sufficient as the complete rule of faith. Paul says that much Christian teaching is to be found in the tradition which is handed down by word of mouth (2 Tim. 2:2).
But then 2 Timothy is one of the epistles of Paul that even Catholics acknowledge (http://catholic-resources.org/Bible/Paul-Disputed.htm) as "disputed." Whatever, the Catholic catechism is a means of transmitting "Tradition" and its version of the Ten Commandments is what Catholics are taught.
That is one of the many issue I have with Catholicism. They seem to want to both hold up the Bible while also making "corrections" to it. Until they denounce the Bible I'll keep holding them to it. Even if they're unfamiliar with their own holy book.
Quote from: Davin on October 03, 2017, 07:53:13 PM
That is one of the many issue I have with Catholicism. They seem to want to both hold up the Bible while also making "corrections" to it. Until they denounce the Bible I'll keep holding them to it. Even if they're unfamiliar with their own holy book.
But which of the so many (mis)translations, (mis)transcriptions, (redacted) revisions, . . . Like all such things you just pick the one that suits your version or the"truth" most closely.
Have to take things as they come. In the case of the prohibition of graven images, it exists in all iterations I've seen.
Christians would do better to ditch the 10 Commandments and focus on Jesus' New Commandment to love one another as he loved. Then they wouldn't be so judgmental and harsh.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on October 05, 2017, 08:57:40 AM
Christians would do better to ditch the 10 Commandments and focus on Jesus' New Commandment to love one another as he loved. Then they wouldn't be so judgmental and harsh.
I know I've made this comment before, but I continue to be baffled by fundies preference for the ten commandments over the Beatitudes.
The Golden Rule covers all the angles for me.
Quote from: Dave on October 05, 2017, 12:07:34 PM
The Golden Rule covers all the angles for me.
Ye it's a good rule but I could easily subvert it.
If I eat meat on Good Friday I want you Dave,
to tie me to an oyster encrusted pole and flay me.
If I ever have sex with a man I want the HAF community
to posit me on a Vlad style stake with just right lubrication.
The Golden Mean is great too, the middle path.
I've thought through, I've balance things out.
My view is middle, I embody the golden mean.
Unfortunate thing is the world is full 'o peeps,
one side or the other of me, it gets me down.
Quote from: Bad Penny II on October 05, 2017, 12:41:47 PM
Quote from: Dave on October 05, 2017, 12:07:34 PM
The Golden Rule covers all the angles for me.
Ye it's a good rule but I could easily subvert it.
If I eat meat on Good Friday I want you Dave,
to tie me to an oyster encrusted pole and flay me.
If I ever have sex with a man I want the HAF community
to posit me on a Vlad style stake with just right lubrication.
The Golden Mean is great too, the middle path.
I've thought through, I've balance things out.
My view is middle, I embody the golden mean.
Unfortunate thing is the world is full 'o peeps,
one side or the other of me, it gets me down.
Any rule can be, and almost certainly is, subverted every minute of the day. Betcha there are lots of xtians who covet their neighbour's ass.
Quote from: Dave on October 05, 2017, 12:46:15 PM
Any rule can be, and almost certainly is, subverted every minute of the day. Betcha there are lots of xtians who covet their neighbour's ass.
This reminds me of something I read the other day.
(I covered it for those of you with a weak constitution). :shifty:
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
^ :picard facepalm:
Quote from: Icarus on October 05, 2017, 11:16:24 PM
^ :picard facepalm:
Am I behaving like a truck driver, again? :notsure:
~Sorry. :(
Well...The joke is not as bad as the video
Father Bruno posted in the thread,
The future of the forum. :shifty:
I thought it was funny.
Quote from: Davin on October 06, 2017, 03:42:02 PM
I thought it was funny.
(https://i.imgur.com/0nt4s0N.gif)
Father Bruno's or mine?
Quote from: Magdalena on October 06, 2017, 06:07:26 PM
Quote from: Davin on October 06, 2017, 03:42:02 PM
I thought it was funny.
(https://i.imgur.com/0nt4s0N.gif)
Father Bruno's or mine?
In this one, I was talking about yours, but since you asked I also thought Bruno's was funny.
Quote from: Davin on October 06, 2017, 06:08:52 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 06, 2017, 06:07:26 PM
Quote from: Davin on October 06, 2017, 03:42:02 PM
I thought it was funny.
(https://i.imgur.com/0nt4s0N.gif)
Father Bruno's or mine?
In this one, I was talking about yours, but since you asked I also thought Bruno's was funny.
:lol:
OK. Thank you.
Jokes about a nun's
ass donkey
are funny. ;D
Funny thing is I posted this topic way before anyone new about his fondness for young girls! Hopefully the issue will bring him down. But who knows it is Alabama
It's just a sick joke that he is in a position of power.
Quote from: Tank on November 25, 2017, 08:21:58 AM
It's just a sick joke that he is in a position of power.
American politics these days is often a sick joke.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on November 25, 2017, 01:07:27 PM
Quote from: Tank on November 25, 2017, 08:21:58 AM
It's just a sick joke that he is in a position of power.
American politics these days is often a sick joke.
It's sick.
It's no joke.
One has to wonder why the most virulent of Xtian (Alabama) fundamentalists are so permissive or even enthralled with the person of Roy Moore. Is he not the embodiment of all that they disdain and deride as non Christian behavior?
WTF :query: :wtf: :foottap:
In these cases, despicable as any such offences are, a small corner of my mind still says, "The evidence is, so far, still anecdotal - no matter how many complaints there are,"
But, as these things go, even the shadow of the possibility of a grain of truth in such allegations is sufficient to encourage enemies to cry, "Resign," and colleagues to become concerned about overall party (or company, or faith) image. One can expect the innocent person to protest that innocence and the less than honourable to deny their guilt. Politics is a filthy game, even public politics, mob politics, that loves to see those who weild big stcks brought low. Whether justified or not if they are on the "wrong" side.
That part of my mind also goes out to those falsley accused. The number of complainants does not, unfortunately, necessarily equal the number of offences - though one is sufficient cause.
The more "normal" parts of my mind insist that resignation is the only option in such cases and only a self-serving slimeball will put self before a "greater good." Even if that "greater good" is actually a greater number of slimeballs of one variety or another, in that most wish to see their least liked perdon/party discomfitted, it reflects on the culture and nation as a whole.
But, it's also human nature and part of the legend at the basis of christianity.
^ Moore's perception of the "greater good" is for all of us to fall on our knees and pray to Jesus our lord and savior. This guy is well beyond the deep end. He is an unbridled exhibitionist YEC.
He also likes to wear cowboy hats, ride a horse, and display a pistol. Alabama is not famous as a cowboy state but this unconscionably inept dipshit seems to have some 19th century wild west fantasies.
Praise the lord, there are a sufficiency of numbskull Alabama voters who might well elect him as a US senator. Moore is on record as claiming that "Only God can solve the nations problems" . He is boisterous about the "sovereignty of God". Quote: " We've suffered a lot in this country, maybe, just maybe, because we have distanced ourselves from the One who has it in his hands to heal this land" .
Pew research has found that the the states with the most highly religious adults are Alabama and Mississ ippi. Next in order are Tennessee and Louisiana. In ole Roy's state of Alabama, 82% of adults believe in God with absolute certainty. Seventy three percent claim that they pray every day. If christian discipleship is the key to a healthy society, the states with the top of the religiosity scale should do better than those at the bottom. At the bottom are Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine. .... Take a wild assed guess at which state has the highest murder rate per capita.... It is Louisiana. Alabama is third.. Meanwhile the heathen Massachusetts was the fifth lowest in murder rates with only 17% of the rate that Louisiana endures. The divorce rate is 50% higher in Alabama than in Massachusetts. By the way, Mass' was the first state to legalize same sex marriage. Amazing isn't it Roy? Need we mention the ratio of teen pregnancy, the out of wedlock ratio. The least religious states of Mass, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine win the morality or social justice contest so easily it is absurd. Sorry about that Roy, shit happens.
Surely Roy Moore must endure some sleepless nights by understanding that his state is much nearer Sodom and Gommora than the godless and biblically damned New England states of the North East. All them damned Yankees will surely burn in hell for eternity. NaaaH!.... he will not lose much sleep because he is secure in the belief that God will love and keep him.
Rant finished... Temporarily......I may very well be back later with more vitriol about this ill advised senatorial candidate.
:clapping: :bravo: 8)
I second Recusant.
Quote from: Recusant on October 02, 2017, 06:56:21 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 02, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
Im not terrified one bit.
Since when are the ten commandments controversial?
Is stealing,adutlery, coveting neighbors goods suddenly seen as good? Come on people
I am in Minnesota and I can't wait for some big stone tablets to come up near the capital. It would do Moses proud!
The United States is not a theocracy, despite the best efforts of contemptible zealots like Moore. That you would ally yourself with him doesn't speak well for your understanding of and respect for the ideals of the United States, as embodied in the US Constitution.
I have a feeling "Sister" would be more comfortable in the Republic of Gilead. Too bad she missed The Handmaid's Tale in October.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on November 28, 2017, 12:35:06 PM
Quote from: Recusant on October 02, 2017, 06:56:21 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 02, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
Im not terrified one bit.
Since when are the ten commandments controversial?
Is stealing,adutlery, coveting neighbors goods suddenly seen as good? Come on people
I am in Minnesota and I can't wait for some big stone tablets to come up near the capital. It would do Moses proud!
The United States is not a theocracy, despite the best efforts of contemptible zealots like Moore. That you would ally yourself with him doesn't speak well for your understanding of and respect for the ideals of the United States, as embodied in the US Constitution.
I have a feeling "Sister" would be more comfortable in the Republic of Gilead. Too bad she missed The Handmaid's Tale in October.
I still have that feeling that Aggie is trolling.
Now Roy's gone and done it:
Ole Roy is way over matched. Kimmel has a large national audience of fairly intelligent people. Moore has a fundamentally ignorant and relatively tiny band of religious zealots who endorse him. Moore had best leave it to hell alone. He is going bear hunting with a switch. (switch is a southern term that implies the small branch of a tree or plant that has had its leaves removed. It was/is an instrument of corporal punishment for unruly children)
Roy has put his foot in it in more ways that one. http://www.newsweek.com/roy-moore-child-molester-alabama-727854 If there is any substance to this report, will the women of Alabame still vote for him? I am sorely afraid that they will.
^^^
This man takes "creepy" to a whole new level. :unsure:
Right now it appears he will win. It will take another generation before the South begins to turn.
Doug Jones is fighting the good fight, and it's simply appalling that Roy Moore even has a chance of winning. But here's my thoughts and my guesses: Alabamans are deeply religious, they don't think too deeply. They equate Republicans with God and Democrats with .... non-Christianity.
Republicans=God-endorsed.
Democrats=the Godless fall of our country.
So it doesn't matter who they get on their Republican ticket, that's who they're going to vote for, regardless of the candidate's transgressions. It's a whole state full of people who have been taught from birth to make excuses for "Godly" men doing bad stuff and then overlook it and "leave it in God's hands".
The good news is #1, surprises happen! Moore might actually lose after all. #2, the tide is changing. Slowly down here in the south, but it's happening.
near term fate of our nation.
It is Tuesday December 12, about 9 PM here in the eastern time zone. The votes are not yet in so that we can not yet determine whether Alabama is actually the dumbest state in the nation. There are pockets of sanity in Alabama. Those places are in the more educated areas around Birmingham, Huntsville, Mobile, and Auburn. ....................Oh what the hell, we will know tomorrow.
The outcome of this regional election has implications for the near term fate of our nation. (sigh)
It is reported that some of today's voters used the write in option for Nick Saban. For those who do not know who Saban is, he is the coach of the Univ. Of Alabama Football team. That team has been at or near number one in the nation for some timeww now. Therefore the coach, Saban, is equivalent in stature to the Jesus.
It's a weird day when I have to say that I've had any faith restored when Alabama failed to vote a pedophile into the Senate. ...but here we are, in this current political climate, I didn't know what a Republican could do to make them lose.
But he lost. Thank goodness. Roy Moore can go away forever now, preferably to jail, but I know how our legal system is.
Well that was a surprise!
Had to read three accounts before I found the figures, a 1,5% margin and Moore talking about a recount. It can be very difficult to remove very tenacious slime, it just sticks like shit to the fabric of society.
Re-write due to misunderstanding:
I thought "write in" votes were postal ones, seems you have a thing here where voters can add a name to the candidate list. But if Moore's name was already on the list I am not sure how the part emboldened below applies. Unless . . .
Also mentioned on the radio, just now, were actual postal votes from servicemen etc, but no estimated figures given.
QuoteWith 99 percent of precincts reporting Tuesday night, Jones had 673,236 votes, while Moore had 652,300 — a difference of 20,936. That number is less than the 22,780 write-in votes, meaning, theoretically, that Moore could have appeared as a write-in candidate on enough ballots to win.
Under Alabama election laws, a recount is required if the margin of victory is within 0.5 percent.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/live-blog-roy-moore-doug-jones-face-alabama-senate-race-n828806
Yup, Roy Moore is done. He just can't accept the fact that God's Will was so thwarted. Because wasn't he "Chosen by God, for such an hour as this"?
I know how hard it is to feel like God didn't keep his promises. Hang in there Ol' Roy. Or don't. Whatever.
It's a bad sign, that it's a good sign that an outed pedophile was beaten in a political race.
I mean, it's good, and Alabama had usually been +25 points for Republicans for decades, and a Democrat came in and won by a point. I just think that the race shouldn't have been that close. Moore should have had no supporters.
So my sister in law recommended that I watch this Moore's campaign manager try to say that Muslim's can't hold a political office.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/12/12/roy_moore_spokesman_muslims_cant_be_elected_officials_because_you_have_to_swear_on_christian_bible.html
If Moore won, it wouldn't be as funny as it is.
Quote from: Davin on December 13, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
So my sister in law recommended that I watch this Moore's campaign manager try to say that Muslim's can't hold a political office.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/12/12/roy_moore_spokesman_muslims_cant_be_elected_officials_because_you_have_to_swear_on_christian_bible.html
If Moore won, it wouldn't be as funny as it is.
Not funny, so very, very sad that a nan as thick as that can achieve public office anywhere!
It's funny. It's OK to laugh at things even if they are bad.
The report is that Moore rode his horse to the polls to vote.
Quote from: Icarus on December 13, 2017, 10:29:12 PM
The report is that Moore rode his horse to the polls to vote.
Apparently the horse wasn't too happy about that (https://twitter.com/RoyMooresHorse/status/940747398640480256).
Quote from: Recusant on December 13, 2017, 11:36:08 PM
Quote from: Icarus on December 13, 2017, 10:29:12 PM
The report is that Moore rode his horse to the polls to vote.
Apparently the horse wasn't too happy about that (https://twitter.com/RoyMooresHorse/status/940747398640480256).
I wish so dearly that the horse would have bucked him right off while on camera.
You know, like that photoshoot where Trump got attacked by a bald eagle. Animals know that these men are rotten, and it's always lovely when they show it.
Quote from: Davin on December 13, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
So my sister in law recommended that I watch this Moore's campaign manager try to say that Muslim's can't hold a political office.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/12/12/roy_moore_spokesman_muslims_cant_be_elected_officials_because_you_have_to_swear_on_christian_bible.html
If Moore won, it wouldn't be as funny as it is.
Best laugh I've had in weeks.
Quote from: Davin on December 13, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
So my sister in law recommended that I watch this Moore's campaign manager try to say that Muslim's can't hold a political office.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/12/12/roy_moore_spokesman_muslims_cant_be_elected_officials_because_you_have_to_swear_on_christian_bible.html
If Moore won, it wouldn't be as funny as it is.
I've watched that video three times,...I just love the open-mouth stare into nothing he gives for what seems like a minute.
Here's a video of Roy Moore refusing to concede the senate seat. What's strange is the fucking ridiculous rant he goes on where he states:
Quote"We are indeed in a struggle to preserve our republic, our civilization, and our religion and to set free a suffering humanity," he said. "Today, we no longer recognize the universal truth that God is the author of our life and liberty. Abortion, sodomy and materialism have taken the place of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
...and then.
QuoteWe have stopped prayer in our schools. We have killed over 60 million of our unborn children. We have redefined marriage and destroyed the basis of family, which is the building block of our country. Our borders are not secure. Our economy is faltering under an enormous national debt. We have a huge drug problem. We have even begun to recognize the right of a man to claim to be a woman, and vice versa. We have allowed Judges and justices to rule over our Constitution, and we have become slaves to their tyranny. Immorality sweeps over our land.
I don't see how any person that still claims to be Christian can watch someone like this and not say to themselves, "Maybe this Christian stuff is pretty fucked up, and I'm actually one of the bad guys"?.
Roy Moore ladies and gentlemen, whose supporters rallied behind as a "Real Virtuous Pedophile" (After all Mary was only 14 years old when she was conceived by god)
I'm so happy he fucking lost...restores some hope in our country. Not a lot, but a little...baby steps.
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on December 14, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: Davin on December 13, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
So my sister in law recommended that I watch this Moore's campaign manager try to say that Muslim's can't hold a political office.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/12/12/roy_moore_spokesman_muslims_cant_be_elected_officials_because_you_have_to_swear_on_christian_bible.html
If Moore won, it wouldn't be as funny as it is.
I've watched that video three times,...I just love the open-mouth stare into nothing he gives for what seems like a minute.
Here's a video of Roy Moore refusing to concede the senate seat. What's strange is the fucking ridiculous rant he goes on where he states:
Quote"We are indeed in a struggle to preserve our republic, our civilization, and our religion and to set free a suffering humanity," he said. "Today, we no longer recognize the universal truth that God is the author of our life and liberty. Abortion, sodomy and materialism have taken the place of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
...and then.
QuoteWe have stopped prayer in our schools. We have killed over 60 million of our unborn children. We have redefined marriage and destroyed the basis of family, which is the building block of our country. Our borders are not secure. Our economy is faltering under an enormous national debt. We have a huge drug problem. We have even begun to recognize the right of a man to claim to be a woman, and vice versa. We have allowed Judges and justices to rule over our Constitution, and we have become slaves to their tyranny. Immorality sweeps over our land.
I don't see how any person that still claims to be Christian can watch someone like this and not say to themselves, "Maybe this Christian stuff is pretty fucked up, and I'm actually one of the bad guys"?.
Roy Moore ladies and gentlemen, whose supporters rallied behind as a "Real Virtuous Pedophile" (After all Mary was only 14 years old when she was conceived by god)
I'm so happy he fucking lost...restores some hope in our country. Not a lot, but a little...baby steps.
Here's one thing that kind of irritates me about modern Republicans, They pretend to love the constitution, and he even says he saw Trump's election as a window to get back to the constitution, but says nothing about the several constitutional violations that Trump has committed since day one. The emoluments clause being the indisputable one. They don't actually like the constitution, just the parts they agree with. They also constantly fail to realize that amendments are part of the constitution.
Pro Moore Voters Defending Him (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1824110147620467&id=908009612563863)
I don't recommend watching without ear/eye bleach on hand.
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 15, 2017, 02:10:08 AM
Pro Moore Voters Defending Him (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1824110147620467&id=908009612563863)
I don't recommend watching without ear/eye bleach on hand.
Some of their comments are so gross, and so full of hypocrisy. I really have little patience for the fake piety of christians in the past year or so...finding myself becoming much more anti-religous than I used to be.
Quote from: Davin on December 14, 2017, 06:06:04 PMThey also constantly fail to realize that amendments are part of the constitution.
Well they shouldn't be! (According to Roy Moore. (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/kfile-roy-moore-aroostook-watchmen/index.html)) That repulsive pustule is pining for the good ol' days before the American Civil War. OK, I'm sure you already know all that, but it should be noted in this thread.
Quote from: Recusant on December 15, 2017, 04:05:23 AM
Quote from: Davin on December 14, 2017, 06:06:04 PMThey also constantly fail to realize that amendments are part of the constitution.
Well they shouldn't be! (According to Roy Moore. (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/kfile-roy-moore-aroostook-watchmen/index.html)) That repulsive pustule is pining for the good ol' days before the American Civil War. OK, I'm sure you already know all that, but it should be noted in this thread.
I can see why he would like to repeal both women's suffrage and slavery, he would have won if the only white men were allowed to vote.
Quote from: Davin on December 15, 2017, 02:59:59 PM
Quote from: Recusant on December 15, 2017, 04:05:23 AM
Quote from: Davin on December 14, 2017, 06:06:04 PMThey also constantly fail to realize that amendments are part of the constitution.
Well they shouldn't be! (According to Roy Moore. (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/kfile-roy-moore-aroostook-watchmen/index.html)) That repulsive pustule is pining for the good ol' days before the American Civil War. OK, I'm sure you already know all that, but it should be noted in this thread.
I can see why he would like to repeal both women's suffrage and slavery, he would have won if the only white men were allowed to vote.
He would have won if only white people voted, period. White women went 2/3 majority for Moore.
Even black men were only 92% against. Given the margin with which Jones won, black women decided this election going 97% against Moore.
He is on record praising slavery. I haven't kept up with this topic because there was literally nothing I could do to stop Moore, not being a citizen of AL, so following the train wreck this was is just unnecessary stress. So idk if anyone has posted that link yet.
Quote from: Recusant on December 15, 2017, 04:05:23 AM
Quote from: Davin on December 14, 2017, 06:06:04 PMThey also constantly fail to realize that amendments are part of the constitution.
Well they shouldn't be! (According to Roy Moore. (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/kfile-roy-moore-aroostook-watchmen/index.html)) That repulsive pustule is pining for the good ol' days before the American Civil War. OK, I'm sure you already know all that, but it should be noted in this thread.
I think Christian apologetics has confuse these peoples minds, they use the same line of illogical thinking to determine what parts of the bible to believe, and what parts of the constitution they need to follow, which is why the Alabama Court of Judiciary ousted him from the bench twice. Not because of Moore's substantive views but his sheer lack of integrity and impartiality.
Quote from: Pasta Chick on December 15, 2017, 03:05:42 PM
Quote from: Davin on December 15, 2017, 02:59:59 PM
Quote from: Recusant on December 15, 2017, 04:05:23 AM
Quote from: Davin on December 14, 2017, 06:06:04 PMThey also constantly fail to realize that amendments are part of the constitution.
Well they shouldn't be! (According to Roy Moore. (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/kfile-roy-moore-aroostook-watchmen/index.html)) That repulsive pustule is pining for the good ol' days before the American Civil War. OK, I'm sure you already know all that, but it should be noted in this thread.
I can see why he would like to repeal both women's suffrage and slavery, he would have won if the only white men were allowed to vote.
He would have won if only white people voted, period. White women went 2/3 majority for Moore.
Even black men were only 92% against. Given the margin with which Jones won, black women decided this election going 97% against Moore.
He is on record praising slavery. I haven't kept up with this topic because there was literally nothing I could do to stop Moore, not being a citizen of AL, so following the train wreck this was is just unnecessary stress. So idk if anyone has posted that link yet.
Yes, if black women voted like black men, then Jones would have lost.
(https://i.imgur.com/jloChrm.png)
If women couldn't have voted, then Jones would have lost. If blacks couldn't have voted then Jones would have lost. It was the combination that worked, due in large part to black women. If we break down just the people that voted for Jones, we see that black women gave Jones almost 16.7% of the total vote. White women however were the next level up at about 10.5% of Jones' votes. Black men gave Jones about 10.2% of his vote total, then white men gave Jones about 9.1%.