. . . And it's not from the cotton candy covered dipstick Donald Trump, for a change.
"Kasich Proposes New Government Agency To Promote Judeo-Christian Values" |
NBC (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/kasich-proposes-new-government-agency-promote-judeo-christian-values-n465101)
QuoteAs part of a broad national security plan to defeat ISIS, Republican Presidential candidate John Kasich proposed creating a new government agency to push Judeo-Christian values around the world.
The new agency, which he hasn't yet named, would promote a Jewish- and Christian-based belief system to four regions of the world: China, Iran, Russia and the Middle East.
"We need to beam messages around the world" about the freedoms Americans enjoy, Kasich said in an interview with NBC News Tuesday. "It means freedom, it means opportunity, it means respect for women, it means freedom to gather, it means so many things."
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"It means I don't give a fuck about the Constitution of the United States," Kasich added. :twitch:
Scary. :watching:
Quote"I'm criticized for having a big heart but I also have a big brain," he said.
:???:
:rofl:
I guess that the Russian Orthodox Church isn't a Christian organization. Who knew?
Well, Kasich didn't get much traction by calling out the ridiculous bullshit (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/10/28/john_kasich_explodes_ive_about_had_it_with_these_people.html) being spewed by Trump, Carson, and the rest of the clown car, so it seems he's decided to get in on that action himself.
Until now I had counted Kasich as one of the most sensible of the lot. Out with that Impression, This guy is as nutty as the rest of them
This may be an entirely cynical ploy by Kasich to keep himself in the race for a while longer by pulling some of the evangelical vote away from Cruz and Carson.
It's true what they say, you can tell who runs a country by the amount of clothes they wear.
Ordinary everyday people, they are the less ons. The Obamas, the Putins, and the like, they are the more ons.
Is it bad that I've never heard of that cat?
Former Governor of Ohio Steeler. By most standards he did a good job of governing. Until he managed to get his head up his ass he came across a rational person.
I think what he doesn't understand, and what many of us didn't understand prior to Gulf part 2 is that the rest of the world doesn't want what we (the US) have.
Many of them would rather live as savages and as oppressed people than to have the freedoms we enjoy.
Fuckem, if they don't want to be a civilized society, not my problem.
Quote from: Steeler on December 10, 2015, 03:14:01 AM
I think what he doesn't understand, and what many of us didn't understand prior to Gulf part 2 is that the rest of the world doesn't want what we (the US) have.
Many of them would rather live as savages and as oppressed people than to have the freedoms we enjoy.
Fuckem, if they don't want to be a civilized society, not my problem.
America, civilised? What a quint concept :grin: :grin: :grin:
Quote from: Steeler on December 10, 2015, 03:14:01 AM
I think what he doesn't understand, and what many of us didn't understand prior to Gulf part 2 is that the rest of the world doesn't want what we (the US) have.
Many of them would rather live as savages and as oppressed people than to have the freedoms we enjoy.
Fuckem, if they don't want to be a civilized society, not my problem.
This seems a rather naive view to me. Foreign
policy meddling is fueled more by economic and political interests than a wish to free oppressed peoples. :airquotes:
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 10, 2015, 09:31:56 AM
Quote from: Steeler on December 10, 2015, 03:14:01 AM
I think what he doesn't understand, and what many of us didn't understand prior to Gulf part 2 is that the rest of the world doesn't want what we (the US) have.
Many of them would rather live as savages and as oppressed people than to have the freedoms we enjoy.
Fuckem, if they don't want to be a civilized society, not my problem.
This seems a rather naive view to me. Foreign policy meddling is fueled more by economic and political interests than a wish to free oppressed peoples. :airquotes:
Sure, covertly it is.
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 10, 2015, 09:31:56 AM
Quote from: Steeler on December 10, 2015, 03:14:01 AM
I think what he doesn't understand, and what many of us didn't understand prior to Gulf part 2 is that the rest of the world doesn't want what we (the US) have.
Many of them would rather live as savages and as oppressed people than to have the freedoms we enjoy.
Fuckem, if they don't want to be a civilized society, not my problem.
This seems a rather naive view to me. Foreign policy meddling is fueled more by economic and political interests than a wish to free oppressed peoples. :airquotes:
Warning, extreme sarcasm ahead:
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Civilised? Are you sure?
Are your really sure?
Have you not witnessed this fella:
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.theodysseyonline.com%2Ffiles%2F2015%2F11%2F22%2F635838115365780122-901575687_6358235333419573281092854367_donald-trump.jpg&hash=a507b96ca4ec2c28e0bcc5437a37967496883e45)
Today he said "Katie Hopkins" and "respected columnist" in a single sentence without "is not a".
Yeah, I'm sure. You don't think the US is civilized compared to many middle eastern countries? African countries? North Korea? Too many to list really.
The point was that the Republican candidate wants to push Christianity across the world. I would assume he reasoning would be to make the world a more loving, beautiful place. Lol
Quote from: Steeler on December 10, 2015, 11:17:44 PM
Yeah, I'm sure. You don't think the US is civilized compared to many middle eastern countries? African countries? North Korea? Too many to list really.
The point was that the Republican candidate wants to push Christianity across the world. I would assume he reasoning would be to make the world a more loving, beautiful place. Lol
Every country is going to have their own standards which usually places themselves at the top. Something found horrible and vile in one country is to be seen as a norm in another. The Japanese famously adore French culture but find their mannerisms highly uncouth. Indians looked upon the Brits as dirty because they wiped their arses rather than washed them and on and on. When you break it down to its basics it is just different methods of doing the same things.
Yes, the "norm" surely does have varying definitions for sure.
But "civilized" can't possibly be seen as cutting off heads, public beatings, beating women for their profession and such.
Quote from: Steeler on December 11, 2015, 02:59:04 AM
Yes, the "norm" surely does have varying definitions for sure.
But "civilized" can't possibly be seen as cutting off heads, public beatings, beating women for their profession and such.
I understand what you're saying,
Steeler, people commit horrific acts, but in 'civilized' countries, there's also 'uncivilized' things going on. There's a lot of police brutality going on here, too many "Rodney King-type arrests." Check it out: Police in the US Kill Citizens at Over 70 Times the Rate of Other First-World Nations (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/)
There's also violence against women in 'civilized' countries, but it's more private.
All states made "wife beating" (http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Domestic_violence.aspx) illegal by 1920, but only since the 1970s has the criminal justice system begun to treat domestic violence as a serious crime, not as a private family matter. So the don't beat up your woman, just because you can-law, is not that old, we started taking care of our women recently--Well, sort of, there's still a lot of violence against women.
There's also torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment of Guantánamo detainees, what justifies it? It's to 'fight terrorism.' I guess it's the 'civilized' way 'civilized' countries handle the problems the 'uncivilized' countries give us. :-\
I just think we need to fix many things in our own home before we point our finger at the neighbor's house. :-\
I agree we are not and never will be perfect, still plenty of room to improve.
At least here I can rest my head at night without many of the worries people have in other parts of the world. I am thankful for that.
Quote from: Steeler on December 11, 2015, 12:56:52 PM
I agree we are not and never will be perfect, still plenty of room to improve.
At least here I can rest my head at night without many of the worries people have in other parts of the world. I am thankful for that.
Quite so.
Quote from: Steeler on December 11, 2015, 02:59:04 AM
Yes, the "norm" surely does have varying definitions for sure.
But "civilized" can't possibly be seen as cutting off heads, public beatings, beating women for their profession and such.
As Maggy states things of horrific magnitude happen in every country be it persecution of a certain type of people, a corrupt justice system, politicians using the state for their own pleasures, state executions or whatever. But when it comes to other countries you are viewing cultures through a different lens and hyper inflated especially if they have come through the lens of media which is weaving a specific narrative for the story they are telling.
We all know cutting of heads (murder), public beatings (fights) and people who beat women for their profession (porn) happens in the US as well as pretty much every country and can usually be found in video form with a quick google search. The horrors at home are usually covered up or not reported upon in depth unless it taps into a curiosity of the public whilst foreign ones are covered in depth usually by a person that has never experienced the culture before and dropped into the worst and unusual expression of the culture.
If you look at how Japan is often reported upon when it comes to its quirks it is presented that used panties can be bought from a vending machine on every corner, whilst it is true they exist you are only really likely to find them in places like Kabukicho and even then they aren't going to be on prime display, what's more you could get this sort of product in most countries anyway because if there is a demand there will always be a supply. But why is it reported on in Japan but not the UK, simply because people tend to like seeing the weird stuff the Japanese have, be it technology or perversions it doesn't matter how obscure it is as long as they hit their target audience. Same thing goes for the middle east, it is always being presented as a grimy dirty place that is full of war with rampant ideologies where people spit everywhere and scream and shout all the time, then compare that to when it used to be referred to as the orient (pre 20th century) where it was depicted as a land of wealth and mystery that was glamorised with adapted version of Arabian Nights where everything was covered in gold, marble, and exotic stones, the people were heavily perfumed and and wore the finest fabrics. Why is this? Could it be that back then there was a want to justify colonialism but now there is a want to justify military action.
Quote from: Crow on December 11, 2015, 03:56:01 PM
Quote from: Steeler on December 11, 2015, 02:59:04 AM
Yes, the "norm" surely does have varying definitions for sure.
But "civilized" can't possibly be seen as cutting off heads, public beatings, beating women for their profession and such.
As Maggy states things of horrific magnitude happen in every country be it persecution of a certain type of people, a corrupt justice system, politicians using the state for their own pleasures, state executions or whatever. But when it comes to other countries you are viewing cultures through a different lens and hyper inflated especially if they have come through the lens of media which is weaving a specific narrative for the story they are telling.
We all know cutting of heads (murder), public beatings (fights) and people who beat women for their profession (porn) happens in the US as well as pretty much every country and can usually be found in video form with a quick google search. The horrors at home are usually covered up or not reported upon in depth unless it taps into a curiosity of the public whilst foreign ones are covered in depth usually by a person that has never experienced the culture before and dropped into the worst and unusual expression of the culture.
If you look at how Japan is often reported upon when it comes to its quirks it is presented that used panties can be bought from a vending machine on every corner, whilst it is true they exist you are only really likely to find them in places like Kabukicho and even then they aren't going to be on prime display, what's more you could get this sort of product in most countries anyway because if there is a demand there will always be a supply. But why is it reported on in Japan but not the UK, simply because people tend to like seeing the weird stuff the Japanese have, be it technology or perversions it doesn't matter how obscure it is as long as they hit their target audience. Same thing goes for the middle east, it is always being presented as a grimy dirty place that is full of war with rampant ideologies where people spit everywhere and scream and shout all the time, then compare that to when it used to be referred to as the orient (pre 20th century) where it was depicted as a land of wealth and mystery that was glamorised with adapted version of Arabian Nights where everything was covered in gold, marble, and exotic stones, the people were heavily perfumed and and wore the finest fabrics. Why is this? Could it be that back then there was a want to justify colonialism but now there is a want to justify military action.
I get that. I'm sure the media does stretch it out, but I'm sticking to my story that the western world is pretty lucky. :-*
Quote from: Steeler on December 11, 2015, 08:50:48 PM
I get that. I'm sure the media does stretch it out, but I'm sticking to my story that the western world is pretty lucky. :-*
At this period of time yeah it is decent but that can quickly change and from my experience of other countries I would pick the West or the Far East as life is far more to my tastes. However I have yet to experience people as savages or less cultured just different and there are many things from those cultures that I happily have appropriated, there are also things that I couldn't stand.
That's cool. I'll admit, this redneck has no plans to travel outside the US. Too chicken shit.
Plus there is more to see here than I probably ever will. 8)