So, the date has been announced. Prepare for non stop news about the EU between now and 23rd June 2016......
I've changed my mind so much on this issue. Part of me feels like voting to leave just to go against Cameron and the way the EU dealt with the whole Greek crisis but then I can see the benefits to areas like science funding by staying in.
It ain't perfect in it. But it would be worse out of it. Stay in is the least worse option.
I was wondering how those of you in the UK feel about it. I have no idea how I'd feel were I in your position, considering how unwieldy the Union seems.
I'm guessing you'll never give up the Pound though :) I wouldn't
Quote from: Firebird on February 20, 2016, 07:14:34 PM
I was wondering how those of you in the UK feel about it. I have no idea how I'd feel were I in your position, considering how unwieldy the Union seems.
I'm guessing you'll never give up the Pound though :) I wouldn't
We didn't and I can't foresee a realistic situation where we would.
We all know what we're in for if we stay in. So I'm gonna vote 'out' just coz it'll be fun to see what happens. Internal policy is going to have a far greater impact on my day-to-day life. Let's hold our noses and jump - what's the worst that could happen?
Quote from: Siz on February 20, 2016, 09:29:33 PM
We all know what we're in for if we stay in. So I'm gonna vote 'out' just coz it'll be fun to see what happens. Internal policy is going to have a far greater impact on my day-to-day life. Let's hold our noses and jump - what's the worst that could happen?
We end up doing exactly what Europe tells us to without any input whatsoever.
The loss of the most favourable trade conditions is a small price to pay for the benefits of autonomy.
To be fair, I look forward to the hustings and if the 'stay' campaign is able to woo me then so be it. I think both campaigns will be won or lost on their spinning of economic predictions. The fact is, no-one can predict the economic outcomes with any certainty either way (or at least no-one can convince me that their predictions are more valid than the other) so I shall try to remain imune to related scaremongering. And as I mentioned earlier, internal policy will have a much bigger impact on my daily life than any European policy. Whether Great Britain PLC goes to shit or thrives it will be as a result of internal governance in any case.
I think Dag will have an interesting insight into this as he has lived in a nabouring country all his life.
Quote from: Tank on February 21, 2016, 08:15:07 AM
I think Dag will have an interesting insight into this as he has lived in a nabouring country all his life.
And in one of very few European nations that are not full members of the EU.
This puts us in a peculiar position that I would warn Brits to consider. Since Norway is not a full member of the EU we do not have a vote in the EU parliament. But in order to trade with European countries we still have to follow EU directives and standards. Which we had very little say in the forming of. The effect is that we are member in all but name and vote.
Personally I'd rather we had a vote if we could get a good deal (one that protects our fish and oil).
^Yes that is true.Your fish needs a lot of protection, especially against those hungry Norwegians ;D
The UK and Canada should join the USA. Then we can kick everyone's ass. It would be like mom reuniting with a prodigal son and a slightly more civil son. The world would tremble.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on February 21, 2016, 11:43:35 PM
The UK and Canada should join the USA. Then we can kick everyone's ass. It would be like mom reuniting with a prodigal son and a slightly more civil son. The world would tremble.
Only if Australia joins us too. The beaches on Gold Coast are nice
Quote from: Firebird on February 22, 2016, 03:41:57 AM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on February 21, 2016, 11:43:35 PM
The UK and Canada should join the USA. Then we can kick everyone's ass. It would be like mom reuniting with a prodigal son and a slightly more civil son. The world would tremble.
Only if Australia joins us too. The beaches on Gold Coast are nice
I have to say that would be fun :)
Quote from: Tank on February 22, 2016, 06:39:35 AM
Quote from: Firebird on February 22, 2016, 03:41:57 AM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on February 21, 2016, 11:43:35 PM
The UK and Canada should join the USA. Then we can kick everyone's ass. It would be like mom reuniting with a prodigal son and a slightly more civil son. The world would tremble.
Only if Australia joins us too. The beaches on Gold Coast are nice
I have to say that would be fun :)
Not from my perspective and Gold Coast beaches are already too touristy.
If the markets are anything to go by then it will mean trouble. Even though the markets recovered after the initial reaction due to businesses trying to calm the markets on the announcement of the referendum the signs are bad especially if you work in the housing market as they failed to recover.