Evolution the myth

[Happy Forever]

Of course the master of evolution is the first one to post.

I mean if you think yourself a master of evolution, reconcile between it and birth and life and death.

All the best

Let me see if I understand your point first, as it would be a waste of time to continue if we don't understand each others point of view.

Are you asking me to explain the relationship between birth, life and death and how this relationship leads to evolution?

You're right it will be a waste of time if we don't understand each other.

As you know the aim of evolution is to explain our existence (but in a mythical way), but these three facts contradict its false concept.

So the question is how do you follow evolution although it contradicts the three facts "birth, life and death"?

I still don't really understand what you are getting at. Please explain why you think the Theory of Evolutuion (ToE) contradicts the facts of "birth, life and death".

Brother Tank,

I was waiting for you.

Evolution is development through billions of years.

This mythical statement is against life as there is no development at all.
You are not billions years old.
You will die and this is against the word "evolution".


Happy Forever

[Tank]

Brother Tank,

I was waiting for you.

Evolution is development through billions of years.

This mythical statement is against life as there is no development at all.
You are not billions years old.
You will die and this is against the word "evolution".


Happy Forever

I think I'm getting to understand something. Let me ask you this.

"What evolves?"

is it

A) The gene pool that gives rise to an organism within a species.
B) An individual organism, me or you for example.
C) Something else?

I ask this question as at the moment I suspect that you don't actually understand what evolution, taught correctly, really is. This is not your fault, but I need to know if you actually understand what the word evolution actually means. Please be patient with me. On many occassions I have had to deal with Christaisn and Muslims who have never actually been taught what evolution actually is. So I'm trying to understand what you have been taught, because so far, what you have written indicates you do not really understand the ToE.

[Happy Forever]

May I analyse it logically?

Your DNA is programmed,

No it is not, it selected for by the survival of one's ancestors.

This is not a logical statement.

it selected for by the survival of one's ancestors.

To turn it active, it will be:
the survival selected DNA.

Meaningless

who is the programmer?

There was no programmer. The DNA within all organisms is the result of natural selection of beneficial physical/behavioural traites.

No, you have no right to set your opnions, we discuss facts.

Natural selection

Again this is not a logical statement. Nature doesn't select and selection is not natural.

What is nature?

Your DNA made itself then you made yourself, if no, Who created you?

My parents created me. I have inherited their DNA and epi-genetic patterns.

your parents and no creature can create anything because if we didn't create ourselves, how can we create others?

Your parents produced you not created you.

Who is your Creator?

[Happy Forever]

I think I'm getting to understand something. Let me ask you this.

"What evolves?"

is it

A) The gene pool that gives rise to an organism within a species.
B) An individual organism, me or you for example.
C) Something else?

I ask this question as at the moment I suspect that you don't actually understand what evolution, taught correctly, really is. This is not your fault, but I need to know if you actually understand what the word evolution actually means. Please be patient with me. On many occassions I have had to deal with Christaisn and Muslims who have never actually been taught what evolution actually is. So I'm trying to understand what you have been taught, because so far, what you have written indicates you do not really understand the ToE.

Thanks my polite brother.

I ask you too to be patient with me.

I know evolution very well.

Nothing of these are evolved because nothing is evolved at all.

These things are inanimates can't deferentiate between development and distruction and stableness and we the only minded watch without interfering.

[The Magic Pudding]

Of course the master of evolution is the first one to post.

I think I understand this, it's a metaphor.
The first one to post was the first wibbly wobbly amino combo cell thingy wingy to form and split starting the evolutionary process.
He knew what he was doing that guy.

[Tank]

May I analyse it logically?

Your DNA is programmed,

No it is not, it selected for by the survival of one's ancestors.

This is not a logical statement.

it selected for by the survival of one's ancestors.

To turn it active, it will be:
the survival selected DNA.

Meaningless

unfortunately it is a perfectly reasonable statement, however your education appears to be flawed with regard to inheritance.

who is the programmer?

There was no programmer. The DNA within all organisms is the result of natural selection of beneficial physical/behavioural traites.

No, you have no right to set your opnions, we discuss facts.

Natural selection

Again this is not a logical statement. Nature doesn't select and selection is not natural.

What is nature?

So it is your opinion that DNA is programmed. I thought we were discussing facts, not opinions. For you to support your assertion that DNA is programmed you would have to have irrefutable proof of a programmer. unfortunately you do not have irrefutable proof of a programmer. And you can't just point at DNA and say it is programmed simply because, in your opinion, it looks like it is.

Nature is all that we live in. Nature does select. Take a heard of antelope and a pride of lions. The fastest most cunning lion will catch the slowest most unwary antilope, as long as the fastest lion is quicker than the slowest antilope. So nature selects for faster and smater lions and antilopes.

Your DNA made itself then you made yourself, if no, Who created you?

My parents created me. I have inherited their DNA and epi-genetic patterns.

your parents and no creature can create anything because if we didn't create ourselves, how can we create others?

Your parents produced you not created you.

Who is your Creator?

I think we have a language problem here. My parents casued me to be born. I inherited my genes from my parents, that is why I used the word create. My parents produced me, nothing else.

[Happy Forever]

Of course the master of evolution is the first one to post.

I think I understand this, it's a metaphor.
The first one to post was the first wibbly wobbly amino combo cell thingy wingy to form and split starting the evolutionary process.
He knew what he was doing that guy.

You are the first one to insult and hope you are the last.

This is a logical scientific thread, such posts will be completely ignored.

[Tank]

I think I'm getting to understand something. Let me ask you this.

"What evolves?"

is it

A) The gene pool that gives rise to an organism within a species.
B) An individual organism, me or you for example.
C) Something else?

I ask this question as at the moment I suspect that you don't actually understand what evolution, taught correctly, really is. This is not your fault, but I need to know if you actually understand what the word evolution actually means. Please be patient with me. On many occassions I have had to deal with Christaisn and Muslims who have never actually been taught what evolution actually is. So I'm trying to understand what you have been taught, because so far, what you have written indicates you do not really understand the ToE.

Thanks my polite brother.

I ask you too to be patient with me.

I know evolution very well.

Nothing of these are evolved because nothing is evolved at all.

These things are inanimates can't deferentiate between development and distruction and stableness and we the only minded watch without interfering.

Ok, if I understand you correctly you don't think evolution happens at all?

[BullyforBronto]

I know evolution very well.

From what I have read so far, you do not seem to know evolution via natural selection very well. Your words indicate that you are understanding evolution as some sort of Lamarkian process that takes place over the course of an individual organism's life.
If this is how you perceive evolution as it relates to modern biological thought, you must open a book before attempting to refute an entirely different concept (i.e. evolution via natural selection).

[Tank]

Of course the master of evolution is the first one to post.

I think I understand this, it's a metaphor.
The first one to post was the first wibbly wobbly amino combo cell thingy wingy to form and split starting the evolutionary process.
He knew what he was doing that guy.

Shame on you Pudding  
HF is working in her second language, I have difficulty with your posts sometimes and I've spoken English almost all my life  

[Tank]

Of course the master of evolution is the first one to post.

I think I understand this, it's a metaphor.
The first one to post was the first wibbly wobbly amino combo cell thingy wingy to form and split starting the evolutionary process.
He knew what he was doing that guy.

You are the first one to insult and hope you are the last.

This is a logical scientific thread, such posts will be completely ignored.

HF, The Magic Pudding was not insulting you. He was making a satirical reference to a BBC TV series Dr Who. The first person who insulted anybody in this thread was you by sarcastically referring to me as 'Master of Evolution', but I expect you did that quite unintentionally, so I obviously let it pass.

Taking or giving offence is incredibly easy on a forum so best just to walk past something you think is offensive and not comment on it as that can cause a thread to derail and start a flame war.

If you feel a post is insulting, do not respond to it, report it to the staff. We know the members here and can explain what is happening.

[Happy Forever]

May I analyse it logically?

Your DNA is programmed,

No it is not, it selected for by the survival of one's ancestors.

This is not a logical statement.

it selected for by the survival of one's ancestors.

To turn it active, it will be:
the survival selected DNA.

Meaningless

unfortunately it is a perfectly reasonable statement, however your education appears to be flawed with regard to inheritance.

Is education your source of knowledge or science?

You are educated what you are educated whether right or wtong, I pick the right, facts only.

To assure it as a reasonable statement requires you to reply to the saying of logic.

So it is your opinion that DNA is programmed. I thought we were discussing facts, not opinions. For you to support your assertion that DNA is programmed you would have to have irrefutable proof of a programmer. unfortunately you do not have irrefutable proof of a programmer. And you can't just point at DNA and say it is programmed simply because, in your opinion, it looks like it is.

My irrefutable reply is the role of DNA, tell me what is its role and consider it the proof.

Nature is all that we live in. Nature does select. Take a heard of antelope and a pride of lions. The fastest most cunning lion will catch the slowest most unwary antilope, as long as the fastest lion is quicker than the slowest antilope. So nature selects for faster and smater lions and antilopes.

Nature is the law of life and the creation itself.
To say that nature as the law of life selects, this is meaningless. To say nature as creation, lion and antilope, yes they do select by using their abilities like eyes, ears, mind and physical abilities. What is the relation between this and the topic here?

I think we have a language problem here. My parents casued me to be born. I inherited my genes from my parents, that is why I used the word create. My parents produced me, nothing else.

Then... I am still waiting for the answer, Who created you?

[Happy Forever]

Ok, if I understand you correctly you don't think evolution happens at all?

Yes of course, this is very clear from the title.


P.S Don't mix between evolution and adaptation.

[Happy Forever]

Of course the master of evolution is the first one to post.

I think I understand this, it's a metaphor.
The first one to post was the first wibbly wobbly amino combo cell thingy wingy to form and split starting the evolutionary process.
He knew what he was doing that guy.

You are the first one to insult and hope you are the last.

This is a logical scientific thread, such posts will be completely ignored.

HF, The Magic Pudding was not insulting you. He was making a satirical reference to a BBC TV series Dr Who. The first person who insulted anybody in this thread was you by sarcastically referring to me as 'Master of Evolution', but I expect you did that quite unintentionally, so I obviously let it pass.

Taking or giving offence is incredibly easy on a forum so best just to walk past something you think is offensive and not comment on it as that can cause a thread to derail and start a flame war.

If you feel a post is insulting, do not respond to it, report it to the staff. We know the members here and can explain what is happening.

Oh, of course I don't mean any insult, I think you really the master of evolution here in this forum. (I mean by master, the teacher)

[Happy Forever]

Taking or giving offence is incredibly easy on a forum so best just to walk past something you think is offensive and not comment on it as that can cause a thread to derail and start a flame war.

If you feel a post is insulting, do not respond to it, report it to the staff. We know the members here and can explain what is happening.

Thank you.