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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #60 on: September 29, 2017, 12:15:27 PM »
On my phone in hospital waiting room, reading Bill Bryson's book.

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"Shakespeare  used 17 677 [different] words in his writings, of which at least one tenth had never been used. Imagine if every tenth word you wrote were original."

That presumambly excludes  typos. Hmm, might try that . . .
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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #61 on: October 30, 2017, 03:37:17 PM »
Listrning to "Quote Unquote", a comedy quiz prog on quotations, on the BBC

St Paul's Cathedral in London, built after The Grest Fire, was variously described as "amusing,"  "awful" and "artificial and it's architect, Christopher Wren,   was very pleased.

In the 17th century "amusing" meant "amazing", "awful" - "inspiring awe", and "artificial" - "artistic".
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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #62 on: October 30, 2017, 10:22:10 PM »
^Funny how those things work. :grin:
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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #63 on: November 17, 2017, 03:21:13 PM »
learning Spanish... keep running into cool things like the phrase for "wrench" is "llave inglesa" which is literally "English Keys".

I wonder why...

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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #64 on: November 17, 2017, 04:13:41 PM »
learning Spanish... keep running into cool things like the phrase for "wrench" is "llave inglesa" which is literally "English Keys".

I wonder why...
I'm not sure but could it be because they were manufactured in England?  :eyebrow:
Llave inglesa.
Una persona inglés es de Inglaterra. I don't think they're using "English" as in the English language, I think it's more like a nationality.  :notsure:


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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #65 on: November 17, 2017, 04:34:11 PM »
learning Spanish... keep running into cool things like the phrase for "wrench" is "llave inglesa" which is literally "English Keys".

I wonder why...
I'm not sure but could it be because they were manufactured in England?  :eyebrow:
Llave inglesa.
Una persona inglés es de Inglaterra. I don't think they're using "English" as in the English language, I think it's more like a nationality.  :notsure:
I took it meaning the nation, when and where wrenches were invented is probably lost in history - perhaps an Englishman introduced them?

I think "French fries" has nowt to do with France, and who in Brussels grew the first sprout I wonder? Those are not so obscure as "English keys".

Oh, in Britain the tool used to smooth the mortar between laid bricks is a "Frenchman".

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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #66 on: November 17, 2017, 08:30:36 PM »
Thanks Mags and Dave...

I gotta say, it's fascinating learning a second language in my fifties.

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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #67 on: November 17, 2017, 09:23:23 PM »
learning Spanish... keep running into cool things like the phrase for "wrench" is "llave inglesa" which is literally "English Keys".

I wonder why...

Yo tambien tengo que aprender español. :grin:

I may have an advantage though, as Portuguese is very similar to Spanish. "Wrench" would be "chave inglesa", which also literally translates to "English keys".   8)
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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #68 on: November 17, 2017, 09:24:46 PM »
I gotta say, it's fascinating learning a second language in my fifties.

I'm curious...what were your expectations? :tellmemore:
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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #69 on: November 17, 2017, 09:31:12 PM »
learning Spanish... keep running into cool things like the phrase for "wrench" is "llave inglesa" which is literally "English Keys".

I wonder why...

Yo tambien tengo que aprender español. :grin:

I may have an advantage though, as Portuguese is very similar to Spanish. "Wrench" would be "chave inglesa", which also literally translates to "English keys".   8)

That's cool...  Maybe Spanish will help me with Catalan and Portuguese next. One language at a time, though.

I gotta say, it's fascinating learning a second language in my fifties.

I'm curious...what were your expectations? :tellmemore:

Honestly, I wasn't sure what to expect. I took 2 years of high school Spanish, but didn't do that well. None of it really stuck. I'm at the point where I recognize words and phrases, but not fluent. I'm hoping there's a point where it becomes more effortless.

My wife is also learning, but this is her 4th language. Our perspectives and approaches differ. She's coming at it from a mechanics perspective (verb conjugation and such), and I'm just memorizing at present.

One advantage I've got is pronunciation. Although, it's a disadvantage too. I've already tried a few phrases on native speakers and they assume I'm fluent. Then I have to stop and ask for English!

I'm sure I'll get there with more practice, and maybe a bit of tutoring in the future.

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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #70 on: November 17, 2017, 09:34:33 PM »

Yo tambien tengo que aprender español. :grin:

I may have an advantage though, as Portuguese is very similar to Spanish. "Wrench" would be "chave inglesa", which also literally translates to "English keys".   8)
"chave inglesa" Muy interesante.  :smilenod:


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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #71 on: November 17, 2017, 09:46:19 PM »
That's cool...  Maybe Spanish will help me with Catalan and Portuguese next. One language at a time, though.
My grandpa spoke Catalan, it sounds like a mixture of French and Spanish. Because I already knew Spanish, I had to take four years of French in high school while I learned English...It was not easy, but it was fun.  :)


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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #72 on: November 17, 2017, 09:49:37 PM »
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One advantage I've got is pronunciation. Although, it's a disadvantage too. I've already tried a few phrases on native speakers and they assume I'm fluent. Then I have to stop and ask for English!
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I remember this stage, I think it's the most difficult and embarrassing.  ;D You know enough, but not enough...You know what I mean, right?  ;D


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Re: Language oddities and funnies
« Reply #73 on: November 17, 2017, 09:51:16 PM »
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One advantage I've got is pronunciation. Although, it's a disadvantage too. I've already tried a few phrases on native speakers and they assume I'm fluent. Then I have to stop and ask for English!
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I remember this stage, I think it's the most difficult and embarrassing.  ;D You know enough, but not enough...You know what I mean, right?  ;D

Excactamente! I'm hoping to get past it soon.

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« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2017, 09:58:45 PM »
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One advantage I've got is pronunciation. Although, it's a disadvantage too. I've already tried a few phrases on native speakers and they assume I'm fluent. Then I have to stop and ask for English!
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I remember this stage, I think it's the most difficult and embarrassing.  ;D You know enough, but not enough...You know what I mean, right?  ;D

Excactamente! I'm hoping to get past it soon.
This is when you go into high gear. Break that barrier. Laugh with those who laugh at you and with you, that's how you'll learn. People are always happy to correct you.  :snicker:

My man gets a little bit mad when I laugh at his English, and my son get a little bit mad when I laugh at his Spanish. It's part of learning another language.


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