While we're waiting, here are two arguments I routinely see from fundamentalists, and that are cropping up here, that I don't understand:
1. treating science as a philosophy rather than a tool. First of all, because when I look at what science is and how it works, it's very obviously a tool and if I can see that I'm not sure how anyone else could miss it.
Second, because if you want to hold an atheist to account for philosophy gone wrong, there are several actual philosophies popular among many (tho not all) atheists to be used. Materialism and humanism are both fairly common among atheists and both get a lot of criticism from conservative theists.
Of course, the theist who wanted to take an atheist to task for such philosophies could run into trouble if the individual he's arguing with doesn't hold either of them, but it only takes a few moments to ask what his particular philosophy is and go from there.
I agree with you.
What I've heard people try to say, is that science came out of philosophy. And I can mostly agree with that, however I don't agree that it still is philosophy. Science is philosophy in the same way that cake is eggs, steel is coal, and beer is water.
But language moves on . . .
In Aristotle's days the style of thinking meant that "the love of wisdom" could include wisdom regarding the physical world as they perceived it- and which, as "Natural philosophy," lived on into the 19thC when "science" became dominant in the physical world and "philosophy" retreated (in use) into the conceptual world of meaning and understanding thought, life and, almost, everything. Except thst atoms, stars, galaxies, the rules of mechanics and optics, electricy and radiation etc have no intrinsic "meaning", they just "are", and are thus no part of philosophy today.
What we actually
do with the fruits of science, however, can drag in philosophy in terms of the attempts to understand motives, morals, ethics and so forth.
Later: but I suppose it is expected that fundies use the meaning of "philosophy" that goes back to the 3rdC BCE. Goes in keeping with their understanding of the Universe.