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Started by Firebird, June 29, 2016, 04:45:18 AM

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Dave

Quote from: Icarus on July 03, 2016, 09:50:23 PM
July 3, Breaking news tells us the we have another serious killing event in Baghdad. Will the madness ever stop?
Only when there are no more mad people left?
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Icarus

Forty, fifty years ago there were almost no mad bombers or shooters that spread fear and destruction. What the hell has happened to change the world?  Sure we had wars like in Vietnam where there was mass destruction, but seldom an individually initiated massacre.

Is this merely old mans nostalgia that is mistaken?

Dave

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Quote from: Icarus on July 04, 2016, 09:00:59 PM
Forty, fifty years ago there were almost no mad bombers or shooters that spread fear and destruction. What the hell has happened to change the world?  Sure we had wars like in Vietnam where there was mass destruction, but seldom an individually initiated massacre.

Is this merely old mans nostalgia that is mistaken?
Good question, sort of remember a radio prog that investigated the history of terrorist type bombing. Will have to research that, have looked at the "rationalisation" behind blowing oneself to a mist voluntarily but not the when it became the fashionable path to Paradise.
Tomorrow is precious, don't ruin it by fouling up today.
Passed Monday 10th Dec 2018 age 74

gentle_dissident

Quote from: Icarus on July 04, 2016, 09:00:59 PM
Forty, fifty years ago there were almost no mad bombers or shooters that spread fear and destruction. What the hell has happened to change the world?

PBS Frontline will touch on that Wednesday.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-secret-history-of-isis/

It starts to sort itself out after a while.

https://supportdanielboyd.wordpress.com/usa-printed-textbooks-support-jihad-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/

Dave

Will take a look at those, thanks g-d.

The aspects of faith and the perspective of the future come in here.  The west has been mostly for gun-boat diplomacy andvtactics for a long time. Got a problem? Lob in a few tons of HE or cash. Problem gone (underground).

Tge perception of the future is a fivkle thing. Most politicians cannot see beyond theirvterm of office and what history will say of them. The Chinese (before and after Communism took over) think and plan for decades to come, the cause tended to come first though, lately, personal fortunes (literal and figurative) have tended to have their effects.

A truly devout, fundamentalist Muslim leader will work, set strategies and plans, for beyond his time in power - for his group's perception of service to Allah and the furtherance of his word. They might argue about day to day tactics and short term strategy but the vision is set on a Global Caliphate, even if it takes hundreds of years. Bin Laden was worth a fortune but, mostly, lived no better than his men - the cause outweighed the personal gain possibly.

However, fashions do change and the almost universal attitude of hatred towards Daesh and Al Q, even amongst some Sunnis, may prove too much of a barrier. This time.
Tomorrow is precious, don't ruin it by fouling up today.
Passed Monday 10th Dec 2018 age 74

Icarus

GD linked to the Frontline piece. It gives us reason to become vigilant and fearful. The piece is an hour long. I recommend spending that much time on it. It is an in depth examination of where and how IS became what it is.

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