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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #75 on: October 12, 2017, 02:55:36 PM »
Is there a difference between 'overhead illumination' and 'ceiling illumination'? Which would be preferable?   :scratch:

ETA: Or 'overhead lighting'.
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #76 on: October 12, 2017, 03:28:25 PM »
"Overhead lighting" sounds the best to me.

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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #77 on: October 12, 2017, 03:37:06 PM »
Is there a difference between 'overhead illumination' and 'ceiling illumination'? Which would be preferable?   :scratch:

ETA: Or 'overhead lighting'.

Overhead lighting could be outdoors and not attached to a ceiling, for instance light from a lamp post.
Ceiling lighting is attached to the ceiling in a room, but one can have tall standard lamps that provide overhead lighting in a room. They would not be called ceiling lighting.

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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #78 on: October 12, 2017, 03:39:31 PM »
Is there a difference between 'overhead illumination' and 'ceiling illumination'? Which would be preferable?   :scratch:

ETA: Or 'overhead lighting'.

I agree with Davin and hermes2015. If you wish to specify that the illumination is coming from the ceiling rather than from a tall torchiere floor lamp for instance, you could say "ceiling-mounted illumination" though "ceiling-mounted lighting" is preferable in my opinion.
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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #79 on: October 12, 2017, 03:44:01 PM »
Is there a difference between 'overhead illumination' and 'ceiling illumination'? Which would be preferable?   :scratch:

ETA: Or 'overhead lighting'.

Are the lights fitted to or rdcessed into the ceiling or suspended from it or some kind of substructure? You could say, "Overhead illumination was provided by recessed ceiling lights"  but that is a bit clumsy. As Davin said, "Overhead lighting", whether qualified by type or not, covers all. Qualification might be needed for technical - recessed ceiling lights give clear overhead space for cranes etc, or decorative, cosmetic descriptive purposes. Recessed, sealed lighting can also be designed to be more easily and hygenically cleaned.
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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #80 on: October 12, 2017, 03:45:32 PM »
Thanks guys!  :thumbsup:

Are the lights fitted to or rdcessed into the ceiling or suspended from it or some kind of substructure? You could say, "Overhead illumination was provided by recessed ceiling lights"  but that is a bit clumsy. As Davin said, "Overhead lighting", whether qualified by type or not, covers all. Qualification might be needed for technical - recessed ceiling lights give clear overhead space for cranes etc, or decorative, cosmetic descriptive purposes. Recessed, sealed lighting can also be designed to be more easily and hygenically cleaned.

Simple fluorescent lights attached to the ceiling.
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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #81 on: October 12, 2017, 05:08:24 PM »
Thanks guys!  :thumbsup:

Are the lights fitted to or rdcessed into the ceiling or suspended from it or some kind of substructure? You could say, "Overhead illumination was provided by recessed ceiling lights"  but that is a bit clumsy. As Davin said, "Overhead lighting", whether qualified by type or not, covers all. Qualification might be needed for technical - recessed ceiling lights give clear overhead space for cranes etc, or decorative, cosmetic descriptive purposes. Recessed, sealed lighting can also be designed to be more easily and hygenically cleaned.

Simple fluorescent lights attached to the ceiling.
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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #82 on: October 12, 2017, 05:09:06 PM »
Thanks guys!  :thumbsup:

Are the lights fitted to or rdcessed into the ceiling or suspended from it or some kind of substructure? You could say, "Overhead illumination was provided by recessed ceiling lights"  but that is a bit clumsy. As Davin said, "Overhead lighting", whether qualified by type or not, covers all. Qualification might be needed for technical - recessed ceiling lights give clear overhead space for cranes etc, or decorative, cosmetic descriptive purposes. Recessed, sealed lighting can also be designed to be more easily and hygenically cleaned.

Simple fluorescent lights attached to the ceiling.
Context important as well  :grin:

Yep, sorry about that.  :sidesmile:
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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #83 on: November 06, 2017, 09:13:01 PM »
Please help me out here, the gears in my head are not turning smoothly today...can I say "The laboratory diagnosis is made, initially, by imaging methods"?

A diagnosis is made?
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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #84 on: November 06, 2017, 09:30:22 PM »
Please help me out here, the gears in my head are not turning smoothly today...can I say "The laboratory diagnosis is made, initially, by imaging methods"?

A diagnosis is made?

"arrived at"?

Example:

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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #85 on: November 06, 2017, 09:34:37 PM »
Please help me out here, the gears in my head are not turning smoothly today...can I say "The laboratory diagnosis is made, initially, by imaging methods"?

A diagnosis is made?

"arrived at"?

Example:

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Who made your child’s diagnosis, how was it arrived at, and does it matter?

https://stemcollege.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/who-made-your-childs-diagnosis-how-was-it-arrived-at-and-does-it-matter/

Excellent!  :notes:
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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #86 on: November 06, 2017, 09:50:48 PM »
Also, could you call something a suspect alteration in an organ (bladder) which might indicate the growth of a tumour?

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« Reply #87 on: November 06, 2017, 09:55:03 PM »
I supposed you could also say, ", , , diagnosis was based on . . ." but can't find sny decent examples.
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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #88 on: November 06, 2017, 10:01:17 PM »
Also, could you call something a suspect alteration in an organ (bladder) which might indicate the growth of a tumour?

Ouch, not so easy:

"possible" ?

But this could be a case where I might rearrange the whole sentence to avoid an awkward usage. " . . . it is/was suspected that the alteration(s) observed was/were due to the growth of a tumor . . ." is that makes sense in the context.

Ah, or does "suspect" here mean "unusual" or similar. !Context warning!!
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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #89 on: November 06, 2017, 10:08:41 PM »
The phrase would be something like:

...These may show suspect changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations...

But suspect doesn't feel entirely right in this context. :notsure:
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