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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #90 on: November 06, 2017, 11:14:15 PM »
The phrase would be something like:

...These may show suspect changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations...

But suspect doesn't feel entirely right in this context. :notsure:
The words they used with my MRI results were: "The findings are suspicious for..."
...These may show suspicious changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations...

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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #91 on: November 06, 2017, 11:27:14 PM »
The phrase would be something like:

...These may show suspect changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations...

But suspect doesn't feel entirely right in this context. :notsure:
The words they used with my MRI results were: "The findings are suspicious for..."
...These may show suspicious changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations...

 :shrug:

Yeah I think suspicious might be better. :smilenod:
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #92 on: November 07, 2017, 04:47:38 AM »
Yes, "sudpicious" is better as you now present the whole sentence.

The use of "growth" came to bother me because thst implies a change in appesrance, needing at least two separate observations.

Is the adjective actually needed?

"..These may show changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations... "

Are you directly observing the bladder or infering change from indirect methods? Is the confirmation be assured or is there a "may" or "can" or even "could" " be confirmed" in there?
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #93 on: November 07, 2017, 05:52:34 AM »
Yes, "sudpicious" is better as you now present the whole sentence.

The use of "growth" came to bother me because thst implies a change in appesrance, needing at least two separate observations.

Is the adjective actually needed?

"..These may show changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations... "


Are you directly observing the bladder or infering change from indirect methods? Is the confirmation be assured or is there a "may" or "can" or even "could" " be confirmed" in there?

...These may show suspicious changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations

"May show" and "suspicious changes" in the same sentence does show a lot of doubt.  :notsure:
But, the word, confirmed --state with confidence that the suspicion, (based on cystoscopic examination), is true.
Yes?  :eyebrow:


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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #94 on: November 07, 2017, 08:10:41 AM »
Yes, "sudpicious" is better as you now present the whole sentence.

The use of "growth" came to bother me because thst implies a change in appesrance, needing at least two separate observations.

Is the adjective actually needed?

"..These may show changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations... "


Are you directly observing the bladder or infering change from indirect methods? Is the confirmation be assured or is there a "may" or "can" or even "could" " be confirmed" in there?

...These may show suspicious changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations

"May show" and "suspicious changes" in the same sentence does show a lot of doubt.  :notsure:
But, the word, confirmed --state with confidence that the suspicion, (based on cystoscopic examination), is true.
Yes?  :eyebrow:

A lot still depends on the context, Mags. If you are describing the "general" process of examination and testing then you should say that any non-specific symptoms may be due to malignant processes, you cannot be sure until definitive tests or examinations are carried out. Even if you are describing an examination in progress you cannot be sure about the cause of any visual or tactile changes from "normal" until these are confirmed by other means.

Doubt is only fully removed when testing shows that the symptoms are due to a specific cause with acceptable certainty.


When describing a scientific process, an expetimrnt, if the same results are obtained each time then there is not room for doubt. If testing a drug unkess one gets a 100% positive dvery time there is still doubt in the efficacy of that drug, all you can say is that it will be effective in x% of uses. Whivh x% is unknown. Losartsn potassium is routinely prescribed for cardiac conditions, but I was one of the 1:10 000 that suffered extremely debilitating side effects from it.

One day, when all our genomes are routinely registered at birth, such findings may be compared and those genetically prone to such problems not prescribed such drugs.
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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #95 on: November 07, 2017, 10:53:59 AM »
Please help me out here, the gears in my head are not turning smoothly today...can I say "The laboratory diagnosis is made, initially, by imaging methods"?

A diagnosis is made?

The laboratory diagnosis is made, initially, by using imaging methods.[/color]

If you want to be fancy you could use "utilising" in stead.
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #96 on: November 07, 2017, 11:13:44 AM »
Yes, "sudpicious" is better as you now present the whole sentence.

The use of "growth" came to bother me because thst implies a change in appesrance, needing at least two separate observations.

Is the adjective actually needed?

"..These may show changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations... "

Are you directly observing the bladder or infering change from indirect methods? Is the confirmation be assured or is there a "may" or "can" or even "could" " be confirmed" in there?


...These may show suspicious changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations

"May show" and "suspicious changes" in the same sentence does show a lot of doubt.  :notsure:
But, the word, confirmed --state with confidence that the suspicion, (based on cystoscopic examination), is true.
Yes?  :eyebrow:


The idea is that imaging techniques show suspicious changes in the bladder, and whether there's an actual growth or not may be confirmed later by cystoscopic examination.

And yes, I have to keep the adjective because it's there in the original. :bigspecs:
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Re: Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #97 on: November 07, 2017, 11:16:31 AM »
Please help me out here, the gears in my head are not turning smoothly today...can I say "The laboratory diagnosis is made, initially, by imaging methods"?

A diagnosis is made?

The laboratory diagnosis is made, initially, by using imaging methods.[/color]

If you want to be fancy you could use "utilising" in stead.
It's like guns, (may they always be free praise the lord,) they don't do the murdering, they are utilised.

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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #98 on: November 07, 2017, 11:24:22 AM »
Yes, "sudpicious" is better as you now present the whole sentence.

The use of "growth" came to bother me because thst implies a change in appesrance, needing at least two separate observations.

Is the adjective actually needed?

"..These may show changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations... "

Are you directly observing the bladder or infering change from indirect methods? Is the confirmation be assured or is there a "may" or "can" or even "could" " be confirmed" in there?


...These may show suspicious changes in the bladder, which are confirmed by cystoscopic examinations

"May show" and "suspicious changes" in the same sentence does show a lot of doubt.  :notsure:
But, the word, confirmed --state with confidence that the suspicion, (based on cystoscopic examination), is true.
Yes?  :eyebrow:


The idea is that imaging techniques show suspicious changes in the bladder, and whether there's an actual growth or not may be confirmed later by cystoscopic examination.

And yes, I have to keep the adjective because it's there in the original. :bigspecs:

Ah! This is a quotation rather than a piece of your own writing? Or something you are paraphrasing, Silver?

Going back to Mag's comment about a lack of confidence the very word "suspicion" inplies a degree of "doubt until proven".
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #99 on: November 07, 2017, 11:32:10 AM »
Ah! This is a quotation rather than a piece of your own writing? Or something you are paraphrasing, Silver?

Going back to Mag's comment about a lack of confidence the very word "suspicion" inplies a degree of "doubt until proven".

It's a chapter on bladder cancer that I'm translating for my aunt. It's erm...very interesting. So interesting it kept me awake last night.  :sidesmile:

I think suspicion sounds about right, then!  :thumbsup:
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #100 on: November 07, 2017, 12:19:54 PM »
Ah! This is a quotation rather than a piece of your own writing? Or something you are paraphrasing, Silver?

Going back to Mag's comment about a lack of confidence the very word "suspicion" inplies a degree of "doubt until proven".

It's a chapter on bladder cancer that I'm translating for my aunt. It's erm...very interesting. So interesting it kept me awake last night.  :sidesmile:

I think suspicion sounds about right, then!  :thumbsup:
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #101 on: November 07, 2017, 12:38:06 PM »
Ah! This is a quotation rather than a piece of your own writing? Or something you are paraphrasing, Silver?

Going back to Mag's comment about a lack of confidence the very word "suspicion" inplies a degree of "doubt until proven".

It's a chapter on bladder cancer that I'm translating for my aunt. It's erm...very interesting. So interesting it kept me awake last night.  :sidesmile:

I think suspicion sounds about right, then!  :thumbsup:
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I'll be fine, practically all I did since Friday was rest. :smilenod:

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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #102 on: November 07, 2017, 12:42:01 PM »
Ah! This is a quotation rather than a piece of your own writing? Or something you are paraphrasing, Silver?

Going back to Mag's comment about a lack of confidence the very word "suspicion" inplies a degree of "doubt until proven".

It's a chapter on bladder cancer that I'm translating for my aunt. It's erm...very interesting. So interesting it kept me awake last night.  :sidesmile:

I think suspicion sounds about right, then!  :thumbsup:
As if you do not have enough to do during the day! Don't burn out, Fernanda!

I'll be fine, practically all I did since Friday was rest. :smilenod:

I'm still a wage slave, remember? ;) Though technically I don't get any actual wage anymore, just trying to get some change here and there.

Oh, is Auntie paying you for this work? That is a whole different kettle of fish! Translate on m'dear!

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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #103 on: November 07, 2017, 01:00:16 PM »
Oh, is Auntie paying you for this work? That is a whole different kettle of fish! Translate on m'dear!

And don't forget to add it to your resumé.

Yes, she is. I do too much for free already! :P

She could have learnt English but chose to learn French instead, so now she has to pay to have her papers and chapters translated... :P But for anyone in the sciences it's a bit of a no-brainer which language one should opt for.
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #104 on: November 07, 2017, 01:11:05 PM »
Oh, is Auntie paying you for this work? That is a whole different kettle of fish! Translate on m'dear!

And don't forget to add it to your resumé.

Yes, she is. I do too much for free already! :P

She could have learnt English but chose to learn French instead, so now she has to pay to have her papers and chapters translated... :P But for anyone in the sciences it's a bit of a no-brainer which language one should opt for.

Yes, despite the fact that French and German science has always been top notch English seems to have become a bit of a lingua frsnca - even before those Americans got their oar in! And despite the sizes of the Spanish and Portuguese empires and trade relationships. That is why I chose  the origins, borrowings, gifts, current dominance - and possible future - of English as my college research project.
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