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Parenting Beyond Belief / Re: Happy Father's Day 2018
« Last post by Tank on Today at 06:30:56 AM »
Beer, port and wild flower seeds (to plant not eat).
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Current Events / Re: Glasgow Art School suffers second fire.
« Last post by Tank on Today at 06:29:32 AM »
Bloody shame.
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Current Events / Re: Backsliding Southern Baptists
« Last post by Tank on Today at 06:09:07 AM »
That looks potentially positive.
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Current Events / Re: Backsliding Southern Baptists
« Last post by Dave on Today at 06:05:34 AM »
American church politics is as mad as the congressional and presidential varieties.
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Philosophy / Re: Questions about Humanism
« Last post by Velma on Today at 03:39:26 AM »
It's fine if you want to accept having no ultimate purpose. But then don't tell me you believe in hope. Hope is for things with a future. What good are temporary hopes (the new car, the cure for cancer, the bowl of ice cream when you get home) if overshadowing it all is death and oblivion?

Why is it so important to you that atheists have some overarching "ultimate purpose" that has been handed to them on a platter? My life is perfectly fine without it - and so are the lives of most other atheists. We have hope, purpose, love, and yes, even joy in our lives without it. We do not have need of some deity who tells us, "Love me or else."

I will have hope up until I draw my last breath, despite the fact that all is beyond that are death and oblivion. Knowing that I will someday die, knowing that my cats, my niece, my nephews, my friends, will all someday die does not kill hope. Knowing that there is only a 40% chance that my husband will be alive this time next year does not kill hope. It gives it a depth and a breath that was completely lacking from that "hope" offered by "pie-in-the-sky, everything-will-be-perfect-tomorrow" religion. What kind of hope can there be when you think that you will be handed all the solutions to your woes?

At the same time, we don't have to have everything right now. And the quality of what we get is what's best gained rather than the cookie-cutter cheap life and beliefs that theists are given.
That too.
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Philosophy / Re: Questions about Humanism
« Last post by Arturo on Today at 01:51:17 AM »
It's fine if you want to accept having no ultimate purpose. But then don't tell me you believe in hope. Hope is for things with a future. What good are temporary hopes (the new car, the cure for cancer, the bowl of ice cream when you get home) if overshadowing it all is death and oblivion?

Why is it so important to you that atheists have some overarching "ultimate purpose" that has been handed to them on a platter? My life is perfectly fine without it - and so are the lives of most other atheists. We have hope, purpose, love, and yes, even joy in our lives without it. We do not have need of some deity who tells us, "Love me or else."

I will have hope up until I draw my last breath, despite the fact that all is beyond that are death and oblivion. Knowing that I will someday die, knowing that my cats, my niece, my nephews, my friends, will all someday die does not kill hope. Knowing that there is only a 40% chance that my husband will be alive this time next year does not kill hope. It gives it a depth and a breath that was completely lacking from that "hope" offered by "pie-in-the-sky, everything-will-be-perfect-tomorrow" religion. What kind of hope can there be when you think that you will be handed all the solutions to your woes?

At the same time, we don't have to have everything right now. And the quality of what we get is what's best gained rather than the cookie-cutter cheap life and beliefs that theists are given.
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Philosophy / Re: Questions about Humanism
« Last post by Velma on Today at 01:30:25 AM »
It's fine if you want to accept having no ultimate purpose. But then don't tell me you believe in hope. Hope is for things with a future. What good are temporary hopes (the new car, the cure for cancer, the bowl of ice cream when you get home) if overshadowing it all is death and oblivion?

Why is it so important to you that atheists have some overarching "ultimate purpose" that has been handed to them on a platter? My life is perfectly fine without it - and so are the lives of most other atheists. We have hope, purpose, love, and yes, even joy in our lives without it. We do not have need of some deity who tells us, "Love me or else."

I will have hope up until I draw my last breath, despite the fact that all is beyond that are death and oblivion. Knowing that I will someday die, knowing that my cats, my niece, my nephews, my friends, will all someday die does not kill hope. Knowing that there is only a 40% chance that my husband will be alive this time next year does not kill hope. It gives it a depth and a breath that was completely lacking from that "hope" offered by "pie-in-the-sky, everything-will-be-perfect-tomorrow" religion. What kind of hope can there be when you think that you will be handed all the solutions to your woes?
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