Maybe this should be merged but I don't really know.
I am ever so terrified of Hell. The fact that other people have gone there and I myself may one day go too if I'm not good.
I almost at times wish Hell doesn't exist, but our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ spoke of it far more than of Heaven.
Can you people tell me why you don't believe in Hell and it's eternity?
No evidence for the existence of a supernatural realm.
Then again there is no evidence for love and happiness yet they exist.
Look at the center of the earth sometimes. Its a massive magma pit. Seems the perfect place to store the souls of the bad people.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 03, 2017, 08:35:28 PM
Maybe this should be merged but I don't really know.
I agree and I think it's wonderful we finally agree on something, this thread along with all of your other posts and threads should be merged into the
Dump Pile of Crazy Troll Posts (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?board=48.0).
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 03, 2017, 08:50:51 PM
Then again there is no evidence for love and happiness yet they exist.
Look at the center of the earth sometimes. Its a massive magma pit. Seems the perfect place to store the souls of the bad people.
Oxytocin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin)
The Earth's core (https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_core)
Quote from: Father Bruno on October 03, 2017, 09:03:41 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 03, 2017, 08:35:28 PM
Maybe this should be merged but I don't really know.
I agree and I think it's wonderful we finally agree on something, this thread along with all of your other posts and threads should be merged into the Dump Pile of Crazy Troll Posts (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?board=48.0).
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What is your evidence against Valhalla, Mt Olympus, Asgard, Camelot, or Atlantis?
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 03, 2017, 08:50:51 PM
Then again there is no evidence for love and happiness yet they exist.
Look at the center of the earth sometimes. Its a massive magma pit. Seems the perfect place to store the souls of the bad people.
Individuals can experience love and happiness. No one has experienced Hell, other than metaphorically. There's also no evidence of souls, except as a figure of speech.
Quote from: Tank on October 03, 2017, 09:05:21 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 03, 2017, 08:50:51 PM
Then again there is no evidence for love and happiness yet they exist.
Look at the center of the earth sometimes. Its a massive magma pit. Seems the perfect place to store the souls of the bad people.
Oxytocin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin)
The Earth's core (https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_core)
Beat me to it! :lol:
The concept of eternal torment is completely inconsistent and antithetical to the concept of a loving God. You can't have both. Either hell does not exist or God is not love.
Quote from: No one on October 03, 2017, 11:56:22 PM
What is your evidence against Valhalla, Mt Olympus, Asgard, Camelot, or Atlantis?
Or vampires. Is Sister Agatha suggesting I go around with garlic in my pocket, just in case?
And why do theists so often ask for evidence of a negative? Are they unaware that's a logical impossibility? I realize you don't have the answers to these questions, No One, I just get frustrated writing posts to brick walls sometimes.
Quote from: No one on October 03, 2017, 11:56:22 PM
What is your evidence against Valhalla, Mt Olympus, Asgard, Camelot, or Atlantis?
Wait for it...the sound of a penny dropping...
Catholic sisters take a vow of poverty, so I expect SisterAgatha won't touch that penny.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on October 04, 2017, 12:42:30 AM
The concept of eternal torment is completely inconsistent and antithetical to the concept of a loving God. You can't have both. Either hell does not exist or God is not love.
Or
HE isn't as omnipotent as
HE wants us to believe and
HE just makes me use such big fonts to perpetuate the illusion.
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Quote from: Recusant on October 04, 2017, 03:46:06 AM
Catholic sisters take a vow of poverty, so I expect SisterAgatha won't touch that penny.
Now now, you knew I'd take that as challenge.
You are complicit in the wrongs I'm about to do.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 03, 2017, 08:50:51 PM
Then again there is no evidence for love and happiness yet they exist.
Yes, but so much more so now that you're here,
I wish I could see you, look, look into your eyes.
What colour are your eyes, your beautiful eyes?
Quote from: Bad Penny II on October 04, 2017, 12:36:26 PM
Quote from: Recusant on October 04, 2017, 03:46:06 AM
Catholic sisters take a vow of poverty, so I expect SisterAgatha won't touch that penny.
Now now, you knew I'd take that as challenge.
You are complicit in the wrongs I'm about to do.
:lol: I fully accept my complicity.
Quote from: Bad Penny II on October 04, 2017, 12:36:26 PM
Quote from: Recusant on October 04, 2017, 03:46:06 AM
Catholic sisters take a vow of poverty, so I expect SisterAgatha won't touch that penny.
Now now, you knew I'd take that as challenge.
You are complicit in the wrongs I'm about to do.
:rofl:
I don't think you're her type, BP, she likes 'em imaginary.
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 03, 2017, 08:35:28 PM
Maybe this should be merged but I don't really know.
I am ever so terrified of Hell. The fact that other people have gone there and I myself may one day go too if I'm not good.
I almost at times wish Hell doesn't exist, but our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ spoke of it far more than of Heaven.
Can you people tell me why you don't believe in Hell and it's eternity?
Do you believe what Christian clergy tell you?
If so, believe this honest Bishop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc
Further, Jesus was a Jew and there is no hell in the Jewish belief system.
The concept of hell is just accepted by some because of a love to hate all others not of their ilk.
Here is an eye opener for you if your religious indoctrination and dogma allow you to see the truth from this other preacher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv_rmQuagpY
Please stop believing in the lies your clegy has been feeding you.
Yahweh is mean, but he is not prick enough to torture you after you die.
Then again, he is a genocidal son murderer so he might be a big enough prick to get his jollies watching you burn.
Regards
DL
The Bible does not refer to Hell, but rather to Gehenna. Gehenna was the site of the refuse pile of ancient Jerusalem. It is where the bad people's (thieves, murderers, blasphemers, etc.) corpses were thrown after their torturous executions.
The current Christian notion of Hell as a place of divine punishment owes more to the non-biblical books "Paradise Lost" and Dante's "Inferno" than descriptions from the Bible.
The English name Hell, by the way, comes from the Norse goddess Hel, who ruled the underworld in norse mythology.
Quote from: Guardian85 on October 06, 2017, 11:36:41 PM
The Bible does not refer to Hell, but rather to Gehenna. Gehenna was the site of the refuse pile of ancient Jerusalem. It is where the bad people's (thieves, murderers, blasphemers, etc.) corpses were thrown after their torturous executions.
The current Christian notion of Hell as a place of divine punishment owes more to the non-biblical books "Paradise Lost" and Dante's "Inferno" than descriptions from the Bible.
The English name Hell, by the way, comes from the Norse goddess Hel, who ruled the underworld in norse mythology.
Good points. If you understand that "hell" was a garbage dump, it explains a lot of the fire and brimstone imagery. Jesus did not use it as a reference to a literal place of eternal torment. It's a metaphor.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on October 07, 2017, 04:46:04 AM
Quote from: Guardian85 on October 06, 2017, 11:36:41 PM
The Bible does not refer to Hell, but rather to Gehenna. Gehenna was the site of the refuse pile of ancient Jerusalem. It is where the bad people's (thieves, murderers, blasphemers, etc.) corpses were thrown after their torturous executions.
The current Christian notion of Hell as a place of divine punishment owes more to the non-biblical books "Paradise Lost" and Dante's "Inferno" than descriptions from the Bible.
The English name Hell, by the way, comes from the Norse goddess Hel, who ruled the underworld in norse mythology.
Good points. If you understand that "hell" was a garbage dump, it explains a lot of the fire and brimstone imagery. Jesus did not use it as a reference to a literal place of eternal torment. It's a metaphor.
It may have been a metaphor then but it's very real to billions now and emotionally cripples many of those. :(
This Michael Che comedy special has good bit about starting at 33:56:
https://youtu.be/ueutuaPIa8M?t=33m56s