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Dave

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Re: I Confess!
« Reply #75 on: November 14, 2017, 05:45:24 AM »
Going back to stuff that was lost in the transfer, but which I copied and stored elsewhere...

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Trouble is, Aggie, you attempted to present a church that is all sweetness and light. Any even shallow skim through the history of the Catholic Church will show that, yes, there are members who seek to do only good (as in any beleif or non-belief group). However it is also a pit of intrigue, corruption, vice, greed . . . Just like any other group of . . .

But the RCC turned it into a hypocritical industry many centuries ago, trying to manipulate the whole word in an attempt to increase its power and influence. Just like the Communist Party then? Both tortured and killed in the name of their ideology.

That you have found a niche in which your needs fit and are satisfied is great for you, please use itvto make the world a better place for all - not by convertion but by example.. Remember those innocents who suffered, and still suffer, because of those who claim to be religious. It would be great if all people had a sense of ethics, empathy etc - but I expect these qualities in church leaders from local vicars upwards. If they act in an opposite way then they are, IMHO, worse than the casual "sinner" or the person totally without religious belief, the atheist, say, who acts in that same way.

Perhaps sentences for crimes like paedophillia should be automatically doubled for any person who takes advantage of a position of trust to abuse others.

First off I don't think the Catholic Church (as you understand it) is all sweetness and light. It's members have certainly done horrific things over the years, but what else is new? All that just proves the fallen nature of humanity and the need for God in our lives.

Actually if you think about it, given all the corruption and bad things the Catholic Church has been involved in, its further proof of it's divine nature that it has not yet been exterminated or gone extinct. Napolean was actually the closest person ever to be in a position to destroy the Catholic Church (kill the Pope, take out the Vatican etc.....)......but something or (someONE!) stayed his hand... ::)

I think the Catholic Church in the sense of it's spiritual and theological reality is all sunshine and light.....but it's members and times of it's history were far far from it... that is my 2 cents on the matter

So all your gushing about your church was just part of the false persona you tried to project then?

Aggie, your last post was the best I have seen so far in terms of seeming honesty. But your church still reeks of medieval policy and values, in all respects except making money, from what I have seen and heard of it.

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Actually if you think about it, given all the corruption and bad things the Catholic Church has been involved in, its further proof of it's divine nature that it has not yet been exterminated or gone extinct.

If that is the best offer you can make to excuse your church's behaviour it is simply yet another indication of your god's complicity in its actions, "divine" guilt.

I would suggest that Napoleon, like the Romans, was too sensible a diplomat to eradicate a religion when he could use it to control the people. Its all power politics in the end.

Tomorrow is precious, don't ruin it by fouling up today.