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Title: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Dave on August 03, 2017, 08:03:39 PM
If I offer a friend a lift in ''urgent'' situations I mean at any time, day or night, regardless of what plans I have (unless they are also urgent or totally unbreakable). As you can imagine I make such sweeping offers carefully, only to those I know will not abuse them.

It is nice when others offer something similar, there are times when I need to get home from the hospital, for example, in the winter, after an urgent admission, when I do not have my car with me or are disallowed from driving for 24 hours or something. Sometims I am only allowed to leave in the company of another person, say after a sedative etc.

So, one of my friends made a similar offer to me after I gave her a lift, she knows my medical situation.

Sometime in September I am going to have my eye op. I can only be released into the custody of someone who picks me up. Getting a ''social'' bed on a ward is usually next to impossible. A private bed costs about 250 quid for a night, excluding breakfast. If one is available. The hopsital is about 12 miles away.

So, I ask my friend if she can ''stand by'' in case I absolutely need the pick-up. Don't know the time or date yet.

''Well, if it does not clash with my art club or the Womans' Institute meeting, you know how busy I am . . .'' she is also a bit of an author and I have come to her rescue, at very short notice, several times to teach her how to do something or fix routine computer problems etc.

Yeah ,OK.Club meets come before friends who are in need . . . Yeah, OK.

Not the first time. Back in 2008, after being barred from driving due to my cardiac immplant shocking me 8 times - they have to make sure any new therapy is working - I gave my old car to a neighbour. Her car, essential, had seriously failed its annual test. She had a couple of young kids to drag up. The car was not worh more than two or three hunded and I intended to get a new one when the bar was finished.

She was very, very happy - told me that she would give me lifts whenever I needed one. Um, that never happened, she always had an excuse not to give me a lift. Mostly I had to pay for taxis (bus service to the hospital runs only once an hour from about 0930 to 1630 - pretty useless, does not even cover visiting hours or early/late clinics. Most scans I have had have been at 0800 or 1900, when the doctors are not making full use of the gear. Taxi time again!

So, one wonders who to call friends. How to find reliable ones who will do as they promise. It is not in my nature to ''retaliate'' by being ''busy'' when they call for help - not sure if I could even harden myself to do so unless my need was definitely greater than theirs, could not be missed or put off for any reason. Certainly friends come before standard club meets in my scale of values.

Feeling a bit miserable, not depressed, just a bit fed up with people (but not as badly as our No One!)

I suppose, since there is no ''team spirit'' in my bit of my voluntary job I am also feeling a bit lonely. Add to that the message I left three days ago on the phone of the guy, supposedly, running the ''Men in Sheds'' group has not been responded to and I have yet to hear from the library four days after putting my application through the door . . .

:shrug:



Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: No one on August 03, 2017, 08:11:30 PM
Friendship : A ship big enough to carry two in fair weather, but only one in foul. (https://web.stardock.net/images/smiles/themes/digicons/Gagged.png)




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Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: jumbojak on August 03, 2017, 10:13:27 PM
I have exactly one real, true friend. We've been friends since I saved him from Cindy the Booger Girl when I was in kindergarten and he was in first grade for the first time. If he needs something I have or needs my help I'm there. The reverse is also true.

We also know that if one of us can't do some thing for the other that it's a serious situation getting in the way. No explanations are needed because both of us know it isn't some silly social gathering that we'd rather be at. Friends like that are once in a lifetime finds. I don't know what I'd do if anything ever happened to mine.
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Magdalena on August 04, 2017, 04:47:40 AM
Quote from: Gloucester on August 03, 2017, 08:03:39 PM
...
So, one wonders who to call friends. How to find reliable ones who will do as they promise. It is not in my nature to ''retaliate'' by being ''busy'' when they call for help - not sure if I could even harden myself to do so unless my need was definitely greater than theirs, could not be missed or put off for any reason. Certainly friends come before standard club meets in my scale of values.

Feeling a bit miserable, not depressed, just a bit fed up with people (but not as badly as our No One!)

...
My dear, Gloucester, I know what you mean.  :therethere:

I'm like you, I've done some favors to people that I shouldn't have done favors to, but I think it's better to feel bad about having been too kind to someone who probably didn't deserve your kindness, but you didn't realized it until much later  >:(,  than to feel bad for having done something mean to someone who has always been kind to you.  :sad sigh:
Does this make sense?  :eyebrow:

Don't lose "faith" in humanity the way No one has. There's a reason you still belong to the Humanist Forum.  ;)

Maybe you caught your friend in a bad situation, maybe you asked for the favor too far ahead, maybe you can try again when you have the exact time and date, and maybe she'll be glad to help you.  :hug:
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 04, 2017, 02:32:12 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on August 04, 2017, 04:47:40 AM
Maybe you caught your friend in a bad situation, maybe you asked for the favor too far ahead, maybe you can try again when you have the exact time and date, and maybe she'll be glad to help you.  :hug:

I agree. Maybe you asked her at a bad time. When you have more details try again and if she says 'no' or comes up with a half-assed excuse then curse her to hell and think twice before doing her any further favours.

;)
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Dave on August 04, 2017, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 04, 2017, 02:32:12 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on August 04, 2017, 04:47:40 AM
Maybe you caught your friend in a bad situation, maybe you asked for the favor too far ahead, maybe you can try again when you have the exact time and date, and maybe she'll be glad to help you.  :hug:

I agree. Maybe you asked her at a bad time. When you have more details try again and if she says 'no' or comes up with a half-assed excuse then curse her to hell and think twice before doing her any further favours.

;)

Well, she had repeated the offer more than once, "Anytime..." After my best friend moved, and she knew how much I missed her and our weekly lunch dates, she also offered to be my "lunch buddy" once a month or do. That was in November last year. We have talked since, I have fixed her computer since, no lunches yet. She is always telling me how busy her clubs and groups keep her.

Not going to bother, if the hospital will not let me get a taxi home they will have to find me a bed or a cumfy chair. When it comes to the crunch you have only yourself to rely on, apart from with my old caving and climbing buddies I have learned that lesson very well all my life. Just that, as you get older and your condition slowly worsens and your few peer acquaintances die off and, despite a life-time of knowledge and skill it seems more diffucult to convince people you are still of value, have something to offer  . . .
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 04, 2017, 04:47:46 PM
Ah, someone who possibly doesn't mean what she says, I can't stand those people. Don't ever know if they can really be counted on.

I don't know if you're seeking poetic justice or not, but those people eventually get older as well and often find themselves in the same position when they do. Not that karma is real but in some cases what goes around really does come around.
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Dave on August 04, 2017, 05:13:52 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 04, 2017, 04:47:46 PM
Ah, someone who possibly doesn't mean what she says, I can't stand those people. Don't ever know if they can really be counted on.

I don't know if you're seeking poetic justice or not, but those people eventually get older as well and often find themselves in the same position when they do. Not that karma is real but in some cases what goes around really does come around.

I try to avoid retaliation, but instead of popping over straight away to fix her computer it might just take me a couple of days to find a free slot in future . . .

Pity, she is a talented lady with both the brush and the pen (OK, keyboard) and I enjoyed talking with her. Oh, I also proof-read and offered editorial comment on her book (as well as helping her with the historical research.) Perhaps it is because I found some factual errors, several repeats, misspellings and the usual editorial stuff she scrapped that edition and started again. Has not asked me to edit-on-the-fly this time. Not prepared to do the job on the "finished" item, that would take solid weeks at the rate I can work at a laptop without aching. Bit at a time - OK.
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: No one on August 04, 2017, 07:15:38 PM
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Don't lose "faith" in humanity the way No one has.

One would have to have this "faith" in order to lose it, wouldn't they? (https://web.stardock.net/images/smiles/themes/digicons/Thumbs%20Up.png)
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Dave on August 04, 2017, 07:41:38 PM
Quote from: No one on August 04, 2017, 07:15:38 PM
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Don't lose "faith" in humanity the way No one has.

One would have to have this "faith" in order to lose it, wouldn't they? (https://web.stardock.net/images/smiles/themes/digicons/Thumbs%20Up.png)

True, true, I sit corrected - I made a similar comment elsewhere!

As my old boss was want to ssy, "Life's a bitch, and then you die."
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Magdalena on August 04, 2017, 07:48:50 PM
Quote from: No one on August 04, 2017, 07:15:38 PM
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Don't lose "faith" in humanity the way No one has.

One would have to have this "faith" in order to lose it, wouldn't they? (https://web.stardock.net/images/smiles/themes/digicons/Thumbs%20Up.png)
No one, can I sit next to you right now?
I don't have too much faith in humanity at this moment.
Please don't ask why.
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Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Biggus Dickus on August 04, 2017, 10:21:24 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on August 04, 2017, 07:48:50 PM
Quote from: No one on August 04, 2017, 07:15:38 PM
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Don't lose "faith" in humanity the way No one has.

One would have to have this "faith" in order to lose it, wouldn't they? (https://web.stardock.net/images/smiles/themes/digicons/Thumbs%20Up.png)
No one, can I sit next to you right now?
I don't have too much faith in humanity at this moment.
Please don't ask why.
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You can sit next to me,...butt I'll probably play with your hair, and look through your purse for those plantains you hide under your mattress  8)
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Magdalena on August 04, 2017, 11:01:46 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on August 04, 2017, 10:21:24 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on August 04, 2017, 07:48:50 PM
Quote from: No one on August 04, 2017, 07:15:38 PM
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Don't lose "faith" in humanity the way No one has.

One would have to have this "faith" in order to lose it, wouldn't they? (https://web.stardock.net/images/smiles/themes/digicons/Thumbs%20Up.png)
No one, can I sit next to you right now?
I don't have too much faith in humanity at this moment.
Please don't ask why.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.yourtango.com%2Fcdn%2Ffarfuture%2F4dSXMtTbbXWc5XytvB5zZEWzEiGRTwS-Jg4_xt8fOoo%2Fmtime%3A1490236013%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2F2016%2520Oct%2FGIF-bored-Brad-Pitt-meh-Seven-skeptical-Unimpressed-unsure-whatever-GIF.gif&hash=baaae84c3c8acf1a1eb58b651becdfd4681f2c3e)

You can sit next to me,...butt I'll probably play with your hair, and look through your purse for those plantains you hide under your mattress  8)
Sit next to No one and hate the universe,
or sit next to Father Bruno and talk about platanos...
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Oooooooh!
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Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: No one on August 05, 2017, 12:43:00 AM
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Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Arturo on August 05, 2017, 04:47:00 AM
Is she holding a small alien?
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Magdalena on August 05, 2017, 06:09:58 AM
Quote from: Arturo on August 05, 2017, 04:47:00 AM
Is she holding a small alien?
I think that's a child, and I think that quote comes from here:
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Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Asmodean on August 05, 2017, 12:37:23 PM
Quote from: Gloucester on August 03, 2017, 08:03:39 PM
''Well, if it does not clash with my art club or the Womans' Institute meeting, you know how busy I am . . .'' she is also a bit of an author and I have come to her rescue, at very short notice, several times to teach her how to do something or fix routine computer problems etc.
I don't mean to judge someone else's friends here, but that one do sound like she be a cunt.

Personally, I would forsake any of my clubbing or institute meetings to assist even a close acquaintance, not to mention a friend, and I'm like the asshole here. A loyal asshole, but still a putrid one.
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Essie Mae on August 05, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
Whenever it's my friend's husband's turn to pick us up from the station he always stipulates a time window to be avoided because he's having his dinnner. He's not diabetic or anything, so he could have it any time. I moan about Mr M sometimes, but he's not that prescriptive and he he has given lifts even to people he doesn't know v well at inconvenient times.
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Dave on August 05, 2017, 02:06:33 PM
Quote from: Essie Mae on August 05, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
Whenever it's my friend's husband's turn to pick us up from the station he always stipulates a time window to be avoided because he's having his dinnner. He's not diabetic or anything, so he could have it any time. I moan about Mr M sometimes, but he's not that prescriptive and he he has given lifts even to people he doesn't know v well at inconvenient times.

It's just that ol' control thing, ennit?
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Asmodean on August 05, 2017, 02:29:53 PM
Quote from: Essie Mae on August 05, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
Whenever it's my friend's husband's turn to pick us up from the station he always stipulates a time window to be avoided because he's having his dinnner. He's not diabetic or anything, so he could have it any time. I moan about Mr M sometimes, but he's not that prescriptive and he he has given lifts even to people he doesn't know v well at inconvenient times.

(https://creatines25.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/emoticon-primavera.gif)

STOP it! You're making an Asmo feel all good and virtuous and needing to scrub Himself with bleach immediately!  >:(

(Actually, when it comes to freight missions, I'm just very easy-going. Drove a guy I've never met before for 260 kilometers once just for the thanks because someone I had an occasional coffee with asked me and... Because I could. Ask me to babysit, and the story may well be different. Hashtag dingoatethebaby)
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Essie Mae on August 05, 2017, 02:43:32 PM
Of course we all knew Your Grumpiness that you are good and virtuous. Just go easy on the bleach.

Gloucester, you so hit the nail on the head. How did you know he's a control freak? (My friend's husband, not mine).
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Asmodean on August 05, 2017, 02:58:26 PM
My take, it sounds like he falls within the type; "I have dinner between four and six. My dinner, my schedule, my game."

For ordinary people... It's just one fucking meal, and you can do things with it like have it earlier or later.
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Dave on August 05, 2017, 03:08:08 PM
Quote from: Essie Mae on August 05, 2017, 02:43:32 PM
Of course we all knew Your Grumpiness that you are good and virtuous. Just go easy on the bleach.

Gloucester, you so hit the nail on the head. How did you know he's a control freak? (My friend's husband, not mine).

Seen the symptoms all too often: unnecessary waits for interviews about pay raise or promotion, heard people say on the phone, "Busy at the moment, get back to you soonest," then go back to reading their paper...

I once worked a surprise Saturday-Sunday, got called in, to make something that was urgent for Monday. No it wasn't, it was needed for an exhibition in six weeks time but it came from four management layers up and each one had to add his bit of "control" on it as it travelled down to the place where ther real work is actually done.

This is part of the reason I enjoy retirement so much!  :grin:
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Firebird on August 05, 2017, 04:52:08 PM
The older you get, the harder it is to make friends. I noticed this after I was out of college, and it's gotten harder as the years have gone by. And this was before we became parents.    It takes a lot more effort to put yourself out there, find people with similar interests and whose personalities mesh with yours. The jump from "casual acquaintance" to "friend" is particularly tricky. You can point to a lot of reasons why, but I think this is one reason religion persists, because it gives you that automatic sense of community. Powerful thing that is.
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Arturo on August 05, 2017, 05:20:03 PM
Quote from: Firebird on August 05, 2017, 04:52:08 PM
The older you get, the harder it is to make friends. I noticed this after I was out of college, and it's gotten harder as the years have gone by. And this was before we became parents.    It takes a lot more effort to put yourself out there, find people with similar interests and whose personalities mesh with yours. The jump from "casual acquaintance" to "friend" is particularly tricky. You can point to a lot of reasons why, but I think this is one reason religion persists, because it gives you that automatic sense of community. Powerful thing that is.

And now we have HAF

PRAISE BE TO THE WEB DEVELOPER(S)
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Dave on August 05, 2017, 05:26:46 PM
Quote from: Firebird on August 05, 2017, 04:52:08 PM
The older you get, the harder it is to make friends. I noticed this after I was out of college, and it's gotten harder as the years have gone by. And this was before we became parents.    It takes a lot more effort to put yourself out there, find people with similar interests and whose personalities mesh with yours. The jump from "casual acquaintance" to "friend" is particularly tricky. You can point to a lot of reasons why, but I think this is one reason religion persists, because it gives you that automatic sense of community. Powerful thing that is.

I agree, I agree.

Religion has both sides in sone ways though, I have seen religious groups that are tightly knit, sometimes to the benefit of local society, sonetimes very inward looking or doing you a "good deed" if you will only see the light. I have also seen churches where the bitching and conpetition would probably have had JC flinging his arms in the air and storming off, muttering, to be an anchorite.

There is a movement in this country, at least, to develop a sort of atheist "church", places where they can congregate, sing songs, listen to inspiring people etc   :puke: Oops, sorry 'bout that!

But, as you say, Firebird, as one matures over the median making contact becomes harder. Over fifty most sociable people are married and singles are "spares". 60+ and partners start dying, widowers miss having a partner and look for companionship at least. Widows, in my experience, are not so quick to find a make male friends, either because they do really miss their partner/feel guilty or because they fear every bloke just wants to get into their knickers. Or their will.

My friendship with Mike and Jane was unusual I think. I designed an advert for the village mag for them, but found we had a wide range of interests in common. As Mike became more infirm I was the one trusted to "help" him do the tasks he could no longer manage. I became Mike's best friend by his admission. After about 16 years of this Mike died and I just sort of carried on the same relationship with Jane; confidant, handyman, lunch-buddy, mouse and spider remover, supporter in general. That Jane is a very intelligent, strong willed and practical person made it even better.

Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Icarus on August 20, 2017, 01:12:10 AM
This thread has been quiet for a couple weeks. It is perhaps one of the most salient of subjects.  The question remains: Are we to be our brothers keeper?  I think,yes we are, if we are to prosper on this earth.

Muti subject reply...........

Glous, if you lived in my town you would have many friends, and friends who do not yet know you, who would drop their club attendance in favor of the needs of an acquaintance. I do not live in Utopia by any means, but I do live in a place where there is honest compassion and care for our neighbors. I do not understand that there are good people who can not find it in their hearts to be inconvenienced by the need or comfort  of others.  I do not, will not, think that the Brit community is anything other than equally compassionate.

Mags: I have long been an admirer of your particularly noticeable faculty for posting erudite commentary and appropriate quotations from our literati. Thank you. I am proud to have you as a virtual companion even though we sometimes butt heads. I believe that we butt heads because of a misinterpretation of the written word more than a difference in philosophies.

Asmo, mysterious Luxembourg destroyer, I suspect that you are a much more congenial lump than you pretend.  Do not change your HAF personna, we like it the way it is.





Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Arturo on August 20, 2017, 01:37:59 AM
I don't know. It still looks like a small alien to me
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Dave on August 20, 2017, 05:09:02 AM
Quote from: Arturo on August 20, 2017, 01:37:59 AM
I don't know. It still looks like a small alien to me

What are you scaling him against, Asmo could be a very big alien - just a small picture of him.
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Arturo on August 20, 2017, 05:16:36 AM
Quote from: Gloucester on August 20, 2017, 05:09:02 AM
Quote from: Arturo on August 20, 2017, 01:37:59 AM
I don't know. It still looks like a small alien to me

What are you scaling him against, Asmo could be a very big alien - just a small picture of him.

I'm fairly average in height but amove average in other areas. Some call me an alien and the gray lump on my butt is still very small despite being of Asmo's....class.
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Dave on August 20, 2017, 05:30:30 AM
Quote from: Arturo on August 20, 2017, 05:16:36 AM
Quote from: Gloucester on August 20, 2017, 05:09:02 AM
Quote from: Arturo on August 20, 2017, 01:37:59 AM
I don't know. It still looks like a small alien to me

What are you scaling him against, Asmo could be a very big alien - just a small picture of him.

I'm fairly average in height but amove average in other areas. Some call me an alien and the gray lump on my butt is still very small despite being of Asmo's....class.

Ah, sorry, we are back to your butt! I thought you were talking about the Asmo.

Perhaps you have a case of asmo spawn, the pre-laval stage.
Title: Re: A friend in need . . .
Post by: Arturo on August 20, 2017, 07:49:46 AM
Quote from: Gloucester on August 20, 2017, 05:30:30 AM
Quote from: Arturo on August 20, 2017, 05:16:36 AM
Quote from: Gloucester on August 20, 2017, 05:09:02 AM
Quote from: Arturo on August 20, 2017, 01:37:59 AM
I don't know. It still looks like a small alien to me

What are you scaling him against, Asmo could be a very big alien - just a small picture of him.

I'm fairly average in height but amove average in other areas. Some call me an alien and the gray lump on my butt is still very small despite being of Asmo's....class.

Ah, sorry, we are back to your butt! I thought you were talking about the Asmo.

Perhaps you have a case of asmo spawn, the pre-laval stage.

Actually I was talking about this

Quote from: No one on August 05, 2017, 12:43:00 AM
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Butt yes (hehe) we can make Asmo a little alien being held by an adult human