Funerals and Family

[Anti-antidisestablishmentarianism]

I don't ever want to die, but if I have to I want to be frozen Walt Disney style.

And have your brain put in an android body?

I would rather just become a cyborg while I am still alive, but if I have to I could wait and have my body put in a T 1000 I guess. Pre skynet of course.

[Sweetdeath]

I don't ever want to die, but if I have to I want to be frozen Walt Disney style.

And have your brain put in an android body?

I would rather just become a cyborg while I am still alive, but if I have to I could wait and have my body put in a T 1000 I guess. Pre skynet of course.

I could Skype on my  arm.
Cant wait to do that 

[Anti-antidisestablishmentarianism]

I don't ever want to die, but if I have to I want to be frozen Walt Disney style.

And have your brain put in an android body?

I would rather just become a cyborg while I am still alive, but if I have to I could wait and have my body put in a T 1000 I guess. Pre skynet of course.

I could Skype on my  arm.
Cant wait to do that 

You could skype while using an app that teaches you how to skype.  Which I would need to use as I have never used skype  ???

[Sweetdeath]

I don't ever want to die, but if I have to I want to be frozen Walt Disney style.

And have your brain put in an android body?

I would rather just become a cyborg while I am still alive, but if I have to I could wait and have my body put in a T 1000 I guess. Pre skynet of course.

I could Skype on my  arm.
Cant wait to do that 

You could skype while using an app that teaches you how to skype.  Which I would need to use as I have never used skype  ???

Skype is pretty simple to use/learn. It only becomes frustrating when your webcam  doesnt connect properly.

[Anti-antidisestablishmentarianism]

Huh well I wonder if there is an app for that 

[pytheas]

I don't ever want to die, but if I have to I want to be frozen Walt Disney style.

but if?

when you certainly will. That's what the living do, my friend

[Firebird]

I don't ever want to die, but if I have to I want to be frozen Walt Disney style.

Ted Williams was put into some cryogenic facility after his death too. The whole thing sounded completely screwed up though. Apparently his head was removed from his body for some reason as well.

[pytheas]

I'm sorry for the myth-busting but the reason cryogenics and walt disney style freezes are absolute BS is:

1) the body is ~70% water. water expands upon freezing turning into ice
2) the water in the body is INSIDE cells interwoven (hydrating) with proteins, cytosceletal fibers and subcellular machinery
3) when water freezes it disrupts and breaks, shattering these structures, so that when they return to living temperatures they turn into pulp  
3) Propylene glycol, glycerol, DMSO and other anti-freeze agents prevent the water from freezing blocking the expansion- the basis for cryopreservation

Even if you perfuse via a vein a person alive thus killing him with antifreeze, the agents will not penetrate enough into the large organ structures  and enough into the cells of the cores of the large organ structures(the brain as well)

At present only cells, tissues, and some small organs out of the body can be reversibly cryopreserved, that means can have a 70% functional return to life. Why 70%? because the Propylene glycol, glycerol, DMSO and other anti-freeze agents become actually toxic and oxidising at room temperatures. So we rinse them out repeatedly and extensively and always there is a loss, cells that never recovered.

the technology in the future is unlikely to functionally recompose shredded and degraded subcellular material that was "primitively" frozen today. and without bringing the corpse back to soluble temperature there is no way to disingage (rinse) the cryopreservative before it harms the tissues which is what happens at soluble temperatures.

[xSilverPhinx]

I'm sorry for the myth-busting but the reason cryogenics and walt disney style freezes are absolute BS is:

1) the body is ~70% water. water expands upon freezing turning into ice
2) the water in the body is INSIDE cells interwoven (hydrating) with proteins, cytosceletal fibers and subcellular machinery
3) when water freezes it disrupts and breaks, shattering these structures, so that when they return to living temperatures they turn into pulp 
3) Propylene glycol, glycerol, DMSO and other anti-freeze agents prevent the water from freezing blocking the expansion- the basis for cryopreservation

Even if you perfuse via a vein a person alive thus killing him with antifreeze, the agents will not penetrate enough into the large organ structures  and enough into the cells of the cores of the large organ structures(the brain as well)

At present only cells, tissues, and some small organs out of the body can be reversibly cryopreserved, that means can have a 70% functional return to life. Why 70%? because the Propylene glycol, glycerol, DMSO and other anti-freeze agents become actually toxic and oxidising at room temperatures. So we rinse them out repeatedly and extensively and always there is a loss, cells that never recovered.

the technology in the future is unlikely to functionally recompose shredded and degraded subcellular material that was "primitively" frozen today. and without bringing the corpse back to soluble temperature there is no way to disingage (rinse) the cryopreservative before it harms the tissues which is what happens at soluble temperatures.

This is all just too complicated, there must be a simpler way...

[Guardian85]

Once the doctors have removed all the useful spare parts I like the visual element of the viking funeral pyre.

You can skip the virgin thralls, though.....

[Anti-antidisestablishmentarianism]

I'm sorry for the myth-busting but the reason cryogenics and walt disney style freezes are absolute BS is:

1) the body is ~70% water. water expands upon freezing turning into ice
2) the water in the body is INSIDE cells interwoven (hydrating) with proteins, cytosceletal fibers and subcellular machinery
3) when water freezes it disrupts and breaks, shattering these structures, so that when they return to living temperatures they turn into pulp  
3) Propylene glycol, glycerol, DMSO and other anti-freeze agents prevent the water from freezing blocking the expansion- the basis for cryopreservation

Even if you perfuse via a vein a person alive thus killing him with antifreeze, the agents will not penetrate enough into the large organ structures  and enough into the cells of the cores of the large organ structures(the brain as well)

At present only cells, tissues, and some small organs out of the body can be reversibly cryopreserved, that means can have a 70% functional return to life. Why 70%? because the Propylene glycol, glycerol, DMSO and other anti-freeze agents become actually toxic and oxidising at room temperatures. So we rinse them out repeatedly and extensively and always there is a loss, cells that never recovered.

the technology in the future is unlikely to functionally recompose shredded and degraded subcellular material that was "primitively" frozen today. and without bringing the corpse back to soluble temperature there is no way to disingage (rinse) the cryopreservative before it harms the tissues which is what happens at soluble temperatures.

Well I guess I shall have to wait until they are able to place me into frozen carbonite

[Asmodean]

Cryogenics still interesting - may allow the future scientists to rummage around the mostly intact innards of their ancient ancestors 

[Anti-antidisestablishmentarianism]

Cryogenics still interesting - may allow the future scientists to rummage around the mostly intact innards of their ancient ancestors 

I have a fascination with robotics and nanotech. 

[Hector Valdez]

Ok, hate to dissagree but I definitely want a religious ceremony. I want the wake to be held in my family church, and I want to be buried next to my brother in the church ceremony. My reasons for this are simple:

Funerals are for the living, and not the deceased, have have probably already earned a bit of peace and quiet. Not only this, but if there is any time in which symbolism and pomp and ritual would be appropriate, even amongst atheists, I would say 100% that death is it. Now, my family ain't atheist, so they definitely would ignore any please for a secular funeral. But that's okay, because it would make them feel better.

[Asmodean]

they definitely would ignore any please for a secular funeral.

This kind of stuff is exactly why my proxy is not someone in my family.